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Postby Machtergreifung » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:36 pm

Minnysota wrote:
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So, with a garrison on the island with a reasonable stockpile, and my fleet close to shore, how am I misunderstanding the logistical situation? If you're meaning that the island garrison will run out of ammo quicker than beans, then yes, I got that.


My point is you can't be badgering the NATO troops for logistics when your situation is really no better.


My troops are on a island with a stockpile. Up until the Americans showed up they weren't doing much other than eating.

NATO on the other hand have been running combat operations with several ships, and Canada at least, has aircraft set up doing war-time patrols and ships steaming up and down.

Odd, then, that I can't feed two thousand men?

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Postby Minnysota » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:37 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:Odd, then, that I can't feed two thousand men?


I'm not saying you can't feed them. My simple point is that your logistics fleet is awful. You have 100% of your logistical fleet deployed for Ascension and you're fairing no better than NATO.
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Postby Delanshar » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:38 pm

I'll be back on in a few hours. I'm gonna go see the Hobbit.

Minny, u and Vehemia r in charge till I get back
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Postby Machtergreifung » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:41 pm

Minnysota wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:Odd, then, that I can't feed two thousand men?


I'm not saying you can't feed them. My simple point is that your logistics fleet is awful. You have 100% of your logistical fleet deployed for Ascension and you're fairing no better than NATO.


Ah, that's not an issue at present. NATO, I'd imagine, would be running on empty due to constant combat ops, while the fighting has only just started in Ascension. Should it carry on for a week or two then things change for the worse.

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Postby Machtergreifung » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:41 pm

Delanshar wrote:I'll be back on in a few hours. I'm gonna go see the Hobbit.

Give us a review when you get back, can't decide if I like the look of it or not yet :(

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Postby Minnysota » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:43 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:
Ah, that's not an issue at present. NATO, I'd imagine, would be running on empty due to constant combat ops, while the fighting has only just started in Ascension. Should it carry on for a week or two then things change for the worse.


It's a huge issue. A single submarine starves your troops.
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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:44 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:
Minnysota wrote:
I'm not saying you can't feed them. My simple point is that your logistics fleet is awful. You have 100% of your logistical fleet deployed for Ascension and you're fairing no better than NATO.


Ah, that's not an issue at present. NATO, I'd imagine, would be running on empty due to constant combat ops, while the fighting has only just started in Ascension. Should it carry on for a week or two then things change for the worse.

Only me and Canada would be running low really. The US and Britain have more than adequate replenishment fleets for operation near Ascension. The US is constantly running ops all over the world at all times, this isn't a situation it hasn't faced before.
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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:49 pm

Estonia, make your NATO request here
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Postby Minnysota » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:55 pm

For Del's most recent strike:

1-30: Effective strike; large amounts of Brazilian infrastructure and defenses crippled or destroyed; further damage to morale
31-40: Moderately effective strike; decent amounts of Brazilian infrastructure and defenses crippled or destroyed; moderate damage to morale
41-50: Ineffective strikes; barely any Brazilian infrastructure or defenses are crippled or destroyed; Brazilian morale begins to stabilize

I'm assuming that Del is fine with this roll.
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Postby Delanshar » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:58 pm

Minnysota wrote:For Del's most recent strike:

1-30: Effective strike; large amounts of Brazilian infrastructure and defens
es crippled or destroyed; further damage to morale
31-40: Moderately effective strike; decent amounts of Brazilian infrastructure and defenses crippled or destroyed; moderate damage to morale
41-50: Ineffective strikes; barely any Brazilian infrastructure or defenses are crippled or destroyed; Brazilian morale begins to stabilize

I'm assuming that Del is fine with this roll.

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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:06 pm

RNU, you wouldn't have all your supporters massed in one area.
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Postby Kryskov » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:21 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:
Ah, that's not an issue at present. NATO, I'd imagine, would be running on empty due to constant combat ops, while the fighting has only just started in Ascension. Should it carry on for a week or two then things change for the worse.

Only me and Canada would be running low really. The US and Britain have more than adequate replenishment fleets for operation near Ascension. The US is constantly running ops all over the world at all times, this isn't a situation it hasn't faced before.



You wouldn't really, considering you just got replenished by my replenishment fleet.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:26 pm

Vehemia wrote:RNU, you wouldn't have all your supporters massed in one area.



I had my troops prepared, moving towards Moscow (Note the High Council) already. They came from different directions.
The attack will continue.
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Postby New Nassrau » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:27 pm

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Vehemia wrote:RNU, you wouldn't have all your supporters massed in one area.



I had my troops prepared, moving towards Moscow (Note the High Council) already. They came from different directions.
The attack will continue.

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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:28 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Vehemia wrote:RNU, you wouldn't have all your supporters massed in one area.



I had my troops prepared, moving towards Moscow (Note the High Council) already. They came from different directions.
The attack will continue.

OK, the way you described it IC I though 300,000 militiamen all attacked simultaneously.
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Postby Machtergreifung » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:31 pm

Minnysota wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:
Ah, that's not an issue at present. NATO, I'd imagine, would be running on empty due to constant combat ops, while the fighting has only just started in Ascension. Should it carry on for a week or two then things change for the worse.


It's a huge issue. A single submarine starves your troops.

Not until the food they brought with them + what food the islands had + the supplies flown in runs out. That's another few weeks at best.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:43 pm

Vehemia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:

I had my troops prepared, moving towards Moscow (Note the High Council) already. They came from different directions.
The attack will continue.

OK, the way you described it IC I though 300,000 militiamen all attacked simultaneously.



Yep. I mobilized the entire Vityazi before the election.

Just in case....
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Postby Aeken » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:44 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:
Minnysota wrote:
It's a huge issue. A single submarine starves your troops.

Not until the food they brought with them + what food the islands had + the supplies flown in runs out. That's another few weeks at best.

Those islands are deserts. It's not likely there will be any form of agriculture on the island or any large quantity of food.
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Vehemia wrote:OK, the way you described it IC I though 300,000 militiamen all attacked simultaneously.



Yep. I mobilized the entire Vityazi before the election.

Just in case....

Good thinking. Now face my wrath, provincial!

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Postby Machtergreifung » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:51 pm

Aeken wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:Not until the food they brought with them + what food the islands had + the supplies flown in runs out. That's another few weeks at best.

Those islands are deserts. It's not likely there will be any form of agriculture on the island or any large quantity of food.
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Yep. I mobilized the entire Vityazi before the election.

Just in case....

Good thinking. Now face my wrath, provincial!


http://media.economist.com/images/image ... DYP502.jpg

Look's really like a desert, doesn't it?

Your point is somewhat valid though, there isn't much agriculture, but that in turn means that the citizens will have large private stockpiles of stuff like tinned goods that will last them through the long Atlantic storms.

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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:57 pm

Russia, you said you disagree with my position, but then stated you had the same position.
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Postby Somali Caliphate » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:57 pm

Bojikami wrote:Is somalia online?


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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:58 pm

Machtergreifung wrote:
Aeken wrote:Those islands are deserts. It's not likely there will be any form of agriculture on the island or any large quantity of food.
Good thinking. Now face my wrath, provincial!


http://media.economist.com/images/image ... DYP502.jpg

Look's really like a desert, doesn't it?

Your point is somewhat valid though, there isn't much agriculture, but that in turn means that the citizens will have large private stockpiles of stuff like tinned goods that will last them through the long Atlantic storms.

It's an airbase, they can get food pretty much on demand.
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Postby Aeken » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:59 pm

Vehemia wrote:Russia, you said you disagree with my position, but then stated you had the same position.

My bad. I'll edit into what I had in mind.

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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:00 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Machtergreifung wrote:
http://media.economist.com/images/image ... DYP502.jpg

Look's really like a desert, doesn't it?

Your point is somewhat valid though, there isn't much agriculture, but that in turn means that the citizens will have large private stockpiles of stuff like tinned goods that will last them through the long Atlantic storms.

It's an airbase, they can get food pretty much on demand.

Yeah, I wouldn't imagine they'd have much stockpiled because the whole point is for flights to be coming though all the time
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