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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:16 pm

Vehemia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
funny enough I was thinking the exact same thing and i was thinking of doing during rush hour.

I hope the NSA doesn't take this out of context.


Airport strip searches here we come!
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:17 pm

Kryskov wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
In service rooms...disguised as maintinance workers...


Where would you get the uniforms?


wal-mart, costume shop, does it matter? whos honestly going to tell the difference before it's to late?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:17 pm

Kryskov wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
In service rooms...disguised as maintinance workers...


Where would you get the uniforms?



Um...."borrow" them.
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Postby Kryskov » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:20 pm

So you are going to send 15 Al-Qaeda men (which the US probably has tabs on), disguised as maintenance workers, to service rooms on one of the most important bridges in the US and expect no one to even say "We aren't scheduled for maintenance."

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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:21 pm

Kryskov wrote:So you are going to send 15 Al-Qaeda men (which the US probably has tabs on), disguised as maintenance workers, to service rooms on one of the most important bridges in the US and expect no one to even say "We aren't scheduled for maintenance."


Well thats the plan.
There will be a roll to see if it's successful (Which someone else will do because it'd be conflict of interest if I did it.)
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Postby Vehemia » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:22 pm

Delanshar wrote:
Kryskov wrote:So you are going to send 15 Al-Qaeda men (which the US probably has tabs on), disguised as maintenance workers, to service rooms on one of the most important bridges in the US and expect no one to even say "We aren't scheduled for maintenance."


Well thats the plan.
There will be a roll to see if it's successful (Which someone else will do because it'd be conflict of interest if I did it.)

I'll do it
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Postby Meritocratic States » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:24 pm

As for my post, it would have to wait for tomorrow. I have stuff to do.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:24 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Delanshar wrote:
Well thats the plan.
There will be a roll to see if it's successful (Which someone else will do because it'd be conflict of interest if I did it.)

I'll do it


I trust you, i agree that Vehemia can do the roll
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Postby Delanshar » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:26 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Vehemia wrote:I'll do it


I trust you, i agree that Vehemia can do the roll


Very well. He shall do the roll, and decide the stats.
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Postby Vehemia » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:27 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Vehemia wrote:I'll do it


I trust you, i agree that Vehemia can do the roll

Thanks. Now what will the numbers be?
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:27 pm

Okay should we roll first then rp out what happend?

if so I have factors that I think I should list for the roll.
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Postby Vehemia » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:27 pm

Delanshar wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
I trust you, i agree that Vehemia can do the roll


Very well. He shall do the roll, and decide the stats.

I'd like both your input in terms of stats
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:31 pm

Well I believe I have these factors in play to my advantage

-Element of surprise ( time is on my side as all i need to do is plant and detonate)
-Disguise
-well trained(These guys won't be low-end scrubs being sent to do this job)
-Morale(Well...I don't think I need to explain this)

also orbat

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:33 pm

North Calaveras wrote:Well I believe I have these factors in play to my advantage

-Element of surprise ( time is on my side as all i need to do is plant and detonate)
-Disguise
-well trained(These guys won't be low-end scrubs being sent to do this job)
-Morale(Well...I don't think I need to explain this)


For sure.
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Postby Delanshar » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:34 pm

Ok well. From a US standpoint,

I feel like the CIA, FBI and NSA have been on much higher alert for domestic terrorists since 9/11

I back this up with the fact that since 9/11, al-Qaeda hasn't committed any successful major terror attacks.
Counter-terrorist groups on the other hand, have been successful in uncovering many plots like This one before they occurred.

Another example would be the whole liquid explosive on planes plot they uncovered several years ago.

The one major successful terror attack, Benghazi, didn't occur in the US but in chaotic Libya so such an attack would be difficult to replicate in the USA

So basically I think the main advantage for the US would be
-Increased Alertness

These are my points.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:37 pm

Delanshar wrote:Ok well. From a US standpoint,

I feel like the CIA, FBI and NSA have been on much higher alert for domestic terrorists since 9/11

I back this up with the fact that since 9/11, al-Qaeda hasn't committed any successful major terror attacks.
Counter-terrorist groups on the other hand, have been successful in uncovering many plots like This one before they occurred.

Another example would be the whole liquid explosive on planes plot they uncovered several years ago.

The one major successful terror attack, Benghazi, didn't occur in the US but in chaotic Libya so such an attack would be difficult to replicate in the USA

So basically I think the main advantage for the US would be
-Increased Alertness

These are my points.


You also have better technology/firepower because if you respond you will have SWAT and such
my guys only have small arms.
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Postby Delanshar » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:42 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Delanshar wrote:Ok well. From a US standpoint,

I feel like the CIA, FBI and NSA have been on much higher alert for domestic terrorists since 9/11

I back this up with the fact that since 9/11, al-Qaeda hasn't committed any successful major terror attacks.
Counter-terrorist groups on the other hand, have been successful in uncovering many plots like This one before they occurred.

Another example would be the whole liquid explosive on planes plot they uncovered several years ago.

The one major successful terror attack, Benghazi, didn't occur in the US but in chaotic Libya so such an attack would be difficult to replicate in the USA

So basically I think the main advantage for the US would be
-Increased Alertness

These are my points.


You also have better technology/firepower because if you respond you will have SWAT and such
my guys only have small arms.


True
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Postby Generic Socialist Country » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:52 pm

Okay, the guy playing as Austria seems to be warmongering about, gobbling up countries and trying to recreate the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, which seems like a quite the bit of godmod, and frankly his posts are quite dull...
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Delanshar
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Postby Delanshar » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:54 pm

Generic Socialist Country wrote:Okay, the guy playing as Austria seems to be warmongering about, gobbling up countries and trying to recreate the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, which seems like a quite the bit of godmod, and frankly his posts are quite dull...


I TG'd him about this. He knows he's supposed to change it.
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Postby Machtergreifung » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:55 pm

Sorry for being somewhat of an irritation, I've been acting merely from fustration rather than any malice, I've asked Del for a second throw, and I've managed to win him around to letting me back in, thankfully. I'll do my best not to dispute everything posted, so I'll do my best to be a bit more concise in my arguements, so you can expect links galore.

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Postby Vehemia » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:01 pm

So American advantages are that they've basically been preparing for 12 years .
Terrorist advantage is high motivation and moral

I'd say the following would be reasonable

0-30: terrorists are caught at the border and detained never to be seen again
31-60: terrorist make it into the US but don't go though with it due to high American security
61-80: bombs malfunction and some don't activate; bridge is damaged but not destroyed and a few dozen Americans are killed and wounded
81-100: attack goes as planned; bridge is destroyed and hundreds of Americans killed
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Postby Patricant » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:05 pm

Vehemia wrote:So American advantages are that they've basically been preparing for 12 years .
Terrorist advantage is high motivation and moral

I'd say the following would be reasonable

0-30: terrorists are caught at the border and detained never to be seen again
31-60: terrorist make it into the US but don't go though with it due to high American security
61-80: bombs malfunction and some don't activate; bridge is damaged but not destroyed and a few dozen Americans are killed and wounded
81-100: attack goes as planned; bridge is destroyed and hundreds of Americans killed

I think this is a good scale.
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:05 pm

Vehemia wrote:So American advantages are that they've basically been preparing for 12 years .
Terrorist advantage is high motivation and moral

I'd say the following would be reasonable

0-30: terrorists are caught at the border and detained never to be seen again
31-60: terrorist make it into the US but don't go though with it due to high American security
61-80: bombs malfunction and some don't activate; bridge is damaged but not destroyed and a few dozen Americans are killed and wounded
81-100: attack goes as planned; bridge is destroyed and hundreds of Americans killed


I think that's pretty good I supposed, though if it is successful many many more would die
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Postby Patricant » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:06 pm

I'm sorry, I haven't been on for a little while, what bridge is this?
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Postby North Calaveras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:07 pm

Patricant wrote:I'm sorry, I haven't been on for a little while, what bridge is this?

Golden Gate
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