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[Kannap]

Vehemia, since nobody is roleplaying New Zealand, can we just say it's a colony of Australia as of right now and in the past?

If not, then that's fine. Not going to argue with you.

[Vehemia]

Vehemia, since nobody is roleplaying New Zealand, can we just say it's a colony of Australia as of right now and in the past?

If not, then that's fine. Not going to argue with you.

That's a pretty major thing to change so I'm going to say no. Consider it part of ANZUS though.

[Vehemia]

From now on everybody needs to post an ORBAT before deploying forces. I'll give an example in my upcoming post.

[Ardboe Eire]

From now on everybody needs to post an ORBAT before deploying forces. I'll give an example in my upcoming post.

Good idea

[Unicario]

I'm terrible at military battles and such. So I'm sorry if they're not good in quality.

[Altito Asmoro]

From now on everybody needs to post an ORBAT before deploying forces. I'll give an example in my upcoming post.

Sir, am I accepted or not accepted?

[Costa Alegria]

From now on everybody needs to post an ORBAT before deploying forces. I'll give an example in my upcoming post.

I'll probably do that if Iraq becomes involved in Jordan.

[Vehemia]

From now on everybody needs to post an ORBAT before deploying forces. I'll give an example in my upcoming post.

Sir, am I accepted or not accepted?

Accepted

[Altito Asmoro]

Thanks!

[Vehemia]

I'm terrible at military battles and such. So I'm sorry if they're not good in quality.

I'd like you to be a little more specific in your ORBAT. I can help you with specific vehicle types if you need.

I'll probably do that if Iraq becomes involved in Jordan.

Can you do an ORBAT for your forces in Kuwait?

[Landseria]

Is Garwall out of this? I TG'd him asking him if he was but he didn't respond, he hasn't posted in a while.

[Unicario]

I'm terrible at military battles and such. So I'm sorry if they're not good in quality.

I'd like you to be a little more specific in your ORBAT. I can help you with specific vehicle types if you need.

I'll probably do that if Iraq becomes involved in Jordan.

Can you do an ORBAT for your forces in Kuwait?

Yes, please. I assume Israel has old WW2 tanks or something. I don't know honestly.

[Costa Alegria]

Can you do an ORBAT for your forces in Kuwait?

Let's see:

21,000 troops total (around two divisions)
25 Churchill tanks
12 CV-33 tankettes
12 CV-35 tankettes
6 Crossley 6-wheel Armoured Cars
8 18pdr guns
12 5.5 inch howitzers

Support of 30 land based Hawker Fury fighters.

[Costa Alegria]

Yes, please. I assume Israel has old WW2 tanks or something. I don't know honestly.

Israel was equipped with a mix of tanks, including old French vehicles, American half tracks and scout cars as well as Cromwell tanks and some Shermans.

[Pribram]

I'd like you to be a little more specific in your ORBAT. I can help you with specific vehicle types if you need.



Can you do an ORBAT for your forces in Kuwait?

Yes, please. I assume Israel has old WW2 tanks or something. I don't know honestly.

Israel had a big mix of ww2 and pre-WW2 weapons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_In ... ar#Weapons

[Kannap]

I did a little digging and discovered that Australia ordered 510 Churchill tanks during WW2, after discovering they were better for Australia forces than the M4 Sherman..

Australia received 51 of the Churchill tanks before the war ended and the order was cancelled.

So, I'm pretty excited to learn of this

[Unicario]

I decreeth Godmod by Saudi Arabia.

1. THE PALE-FUCKING-STINIANS ARE HAPPY. THE JEWS GAVE THEM RIGHTS. WHY WOULD THEY REVOLT AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY. THERE IS A PALESTINIAN PRIME MINISTER.

2. Saudi Arabia. Has. No. Fucking. Spies. In. The. Army.

3. Really? All of a sudden, Saudi Arabia pulls nearly 100k soldiers out of their ass to kill Israel? That's nice considering in 1948, Saudi Arabia could only muster 1,200 soldiers to destroy Israel... and failed La Miserables. In 1950, Saudi Arabia only had three million people. 95k soldiers is about 3% of your population... which is alot. Jerusalem's 10,000 soldiers is alot less.

(unrelated) 4. Israel's "10,000" is grossly under-exaggerated. I could effectively raise my total soldiers to about 115k or so (based on the 1948 war conscription)

5. Jerusalem is SECULAR. Jews have no power, and Muslims have no power. Everyone is a human and is expected to cooperate. Arab and Jewish children go to church. You'll see Palestinians in Synagogues, and Jews in Mosques. You'll see Abdul and Ishmael playing chess one balmy afternoon while they wait for their sons, Farid and Abraham to return from school. There are still some tensities in the transistion, but everyone is happy with the changes.

[Kannap]

I decreeth Godmod by Saudi Arabia.

1. THE PALE-FUCKING-STINIANS ARE HAPPY. THE JEWS GAVE THEM RIGHTS. WHY WOULD THEY REVOLT AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY. THERE IS A PALESTINIAN PRIME MINISTER.

2. Saudi Arabia. Has. No. Fucking. Spies. In. The. Army.

3. Really? All of a sudden, Saudi Arabia pulls nearly 100k soldiers out of their ass to kill Israel? That's nice considering in 1948, Saudi Arabia could only muster 1,200 soldiers to destroy Israel... and failed La Miserables.

As for #1, Saudi Arabia cannot say what happens within Israeli borders, as that is Godmodding.

Somebody else give their opinions on #2 and #3.

[Unicario]

See my revised list. I think 2 falls in the same category as 1, since you know: It's my territory.

[Kannap]

See my revised list. I think 2 falls in the same category as 1, since you know: It's my territory.

Yes, both of you, in OOC, would have to agree over the spies.

Example: It would be like Saudi Arabia saying they killed 7,000 Israelis in battle. Which would be godmodding.

Only Israel can roleplay Israeli deaths.. Only Saudi Arabia can roleplay Saudi deaths.

[Somali Caliphate]

I decreeth Godmod by Saudi Arabia.

1. THE PALE-FUCKING-STINIANS ARE HAPPY. THE JEWS GAVE THEM RIGHTS. WHY WOULD THEY REVOLT AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY. THERE IS A PALESTINIAN PRIME MINISTER.

2. Saudi Arabia. Has. No. Fucking. Spies. In. The. Army.

3. Really? All of a sudden, Saudi Arabia pulls nearly 100k soldiers out of their ass to kill Israel? That's nice considering in 1948, Saudi Arabia could only muster 1,200 soldiers to destroy Israel... and failed La Miserables. In 1950, Saudi Arabia only had three million people. 95k soldiers is about 3% of your population... which is alot. Jerusalem's 10,000 soldiers is alot less.

(unrelated) 4. Israel's "10,000" is grossly under-exaggerated. I could effectively raise my total soldiers to about 115k or so (based on the 1948 war conscription)

5. Jerusalem is SECULAR. Jews have no power, and Muslims have no power. Everyone is a human and is expected to cooperate. Arab and Jewish children go to church. You'll see Palestinians in Synagogues, and Jews in Mosques. You'll see Abdul and Ishmael playing chess one balmy afternoon while they wait for their sons, Farid and Abraham to return from school. There are still some tensities in the transistion, but everyone is happy with the changes.

Consider the spy thing retconned. I know that the Republic of Jerusalem is equal and secular, I'm only RPing what the Saudi king would have thought of it and Saudi Arabia entering the war only happened because you invaded Jordan. You have 24 hours to withdraw from Jordan if you want to avoid war. And many of the people who've volunteered to fight with the Saudi Army are only recently trained civilians, not proper soldiers. And you're coming across as a bit too worked up, calm down- what I RP is what the Saudis think- not what I think. Yes, you may have started to create an equal society, but the truth doesn't matter if you perceived to be unjust

[Kannap]

I decreeth Godmod by Saudi Arabia.

1. THE PALE-FUCKING-STINIANS ARE HAPPY. THE JEWS GAVE THEM RIGHTS. WHY WOULD THEY REVOLT AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY. THERE IS A PALESTINIAN PRIME MINISTER.

2. Saudi Arabia. Has. No. Fucking. Spies. In. The. Army.

3. Really? All of a sudden, Saudi Arabia pulls nearly 100k soldiers out of their ass to kill Israel? That's nice considering in 1948, Saudi Arabia could only muster 1,200 soldiers to destroy Israel... and failed La Miserables. In 1950, Saudi Arabia only had three million people. 95k soldiers is about 3% of your population... which is alot. Jerusalem's 10,000 soldiers is alot less.

(unrelated) 4. Israel's "10,000" is grossly under-exaggerated. I could effectively raise my total soldiers to about 115k or so (based on the 1948 war conscription)

5. Jerusalem is SECULAR. Jews have no power, and Muslims have no power. Everyone is a human and is expected to cooperate. Arab and Jewish children go to church. You'll see Palestinians in Synagogues, and Jews in Mosques. You'll see Abdul and Ishmael playing chess one balmy afternoon while they wait for their sons, Farid and Abraham to return from school. There are still some tensities in the transistion, but everyone is happy with the changes.

Consider the spy thing retconned. I know that the Republic of Jerusalem is equal and secular, I'm only RPing what the Saudi king would have thought of it and Saudi Arabia entering the war only happened because you invaded Jordan. You have 24 hours to withdraw from Jordan if you want to avoid war. And many of the people who've volunteered to fight with the Saudi Army are only recently trained civilians, not proper soldiers. And you're coming across as a bit too worked up, calm down- what I RP is what the Saudis think- not what I think. Yes, you may have started to create an equal society, but the truth doesn't matter if you perceived to be unjust

I doubt Israel to remove themselves from Jordan
And an attack on Israel will receive a declaration of war from Australia

Anyway, do calm down Israel.. Leave the Saudis to their business, and keep with your own business.

[Kryskov]

Gas attack? Bad move, Arabia. Considering pretty much all of Europe has signed the Geneva Protocol...

[Somali Caliphate]

Gas attack? Bad move, Arabia. Considering pretty much all of Europe has signed the Geneva Protocol...

As far as I know, Saudi Arabia is not a signatory. But what does Europe have to do with it, this war is between Israel and the Arab nations?

[Kryskov]

Gas attack? Bad move, Arabia. Considering pretty much all of Europe has signed the Geneva Protocol...

As far as I know, Saudi Arabia is not a signatory. But what does Europe have to do with it, this war is between Israel and the Arab nations?

Saudi Arabia, at this time, isn't and so wasn't Israel. But considering that the Western Allies have helped Israel grow and arm, we can assume that they are practically allies and that the Western Allies support this war (assuming no western ally has warned Israel). And secondly, these countries have experienced the horror of chemical warfare and would be adamantly against it. Additionally, Europe is involved because you invaded British-controlled land.