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[Vehemia]

Country: Deutsche Demokratische Republik / German Democratic Republic / East Germany
Leader: Wilhelm Pieck (President) Otto Grotewohl (Prime Minister)
Ideology: Marxist-Leninist socialist state
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned): USSR
Currency: Deutsche Mark
Capital: East Berlin
Population: 18,300,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 250,000 (Approx.)
-Navy (Ships): 32
-Army (Troops): 170,000 (Approx.)
-Air Force (Aircraft): 102
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Not initially, however in need would ask from the Soviet Union.
Main Strategic Resources: Iron, Coal, Diesel/Petroleum and Copper.
Claimed Territories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:East_ ... 6-1990.svg

Accepted

[Zaras]

I'd like to try to RP a Scandinavian federation of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland and possibly Finland, formed in reponse to the growing Cold War tensions, is that alright?

Country: Scandinavian Federation
Leader:
Sweden: Prime Minister Tage Erlander, King Gustav VI (until October 1950)/Gustav VI Adolf
Norway: Prime Minister Einar Gerhardsen, King Haakon VII
Denmark: Prime Minister Hans Hedtoft, King Frederick IX
Iceland: Prime Minister Ólafur Thors (until March 1950)/Steingrímur Steinþórsson, President Sveinn Björnsson
Finland: Prime Minister Karl-August Fagerholm (until March 1950)/Urho Kekkonen, President Juho Kusti Paasikivi
Ideology: Scandinavian social democracy
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned): Unaligned - both anti-Soviet and critical of American meddling abroad, though ultimately vaguely pro-American
Currency: The krone
Capital: Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo, Helsinki, Reykjavík
Population: 3,278,546 (Norway), 7,014,000 (Sweden), 4,271,000 (Denmark), 4,009,000 (Finland), 143,000 (Iceland)
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
-Navy (Ships):
-Army (Troops):
-Air Force (Aircraft):
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Only Sweden had a nuclear weapons research programme at this point.
Main Strategic Resources:
Claimed Territories: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Iceland

If not, I'll just stick to Sweden.

Finland signed the Finno-Soviet Treaty of 1948 so I don't think they'd join. The other countries I could see joining so accepted minus Finland.

I did say "possibly Finland", so I was thinking this probably wouldn't be manageable, but the rest can evolve out of the Scandinavian Defense Union, assuming it actually gets put into practice instead of Norway and Denmark running off to NATO. You said all previous stuff applies, but since this is an Alternate World thing, can I pretend that Norway and Denmark haven't joined NATO yet, just to make this vaguely realistic?

[Ardboe Eire]

Can China be accepted?

Yes, sorry I didn't notice your edit

Thanks.

[Vehemia]

Finland signed the Finno-Soviet Treaty of 1948 so I don't think they'd join. The other countries I could see joining so accepted minus Finland.

I did say "possibly Finland", so I was thinking this probably wouldn't be manageable, but the rest can evolve out of the Scandinavian Defense Union, assuming it actually gets put into practice instead of Norway and Denmark running off to NATO. You said all previous stuff applies, but since this is an Alternate World thing, can I pretend that Norway and Denmark haven't joined NATO yet, just to make this vaguely realistic?

Yeah I kind of wanted it to roughly follow history prior to 1950. So Norway and Denmark abstaining from NATO is fine, I just meant I didn't want Nazi Germany to have won WWII or anything drastic like that.

[Zaras]

I did say "possibly Finland", so I was thinking this probably wouldn't be manageable, but the rest can evolve out of the Scandinavian Defense Union, assuming it actually gets put into practice instead of Norway and Denmark running off to NATO. You said all previous stuff applies, but since this is an Alternate World thing, can I pretend that Norway and Denmark haven't joined NATO yet, just to make this vaguely realistic?

Yeah I kind of wanted it to roughly follow history prior to 1950. So Norway and Denmark abstaining from NATO is fine, I just meant I didn't want Nazi Germany to have won WWII or anything drastic like that.

Yeah, I'm certainly not going to ASB something as big as the Finno-Soviet Treaty.

I'm mostly going to RP Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Iceland cooperating closely on the SDU and in the aftermath of worsening Cold War tensions, moving closer to something resembling a federation. Keflavík didn't become a NATO base until 1951, so that's a year's worth of work to go with, but I'm a bit up in the air what to do with it. It should provide some interesting dilemmas at least, whether the SDU would allow NATO to have the base at Keflavík or not.

[Carathon]

I did say "possibly Finland", so I was thinking this probably wouldn't be manageable, but the rest can evolve out of the Scandinavian Defense Union, assuming it actually gets put into practice instead of Norway and Denmark running off to NATO. You said all previous stuff applies, but since this is an Alternate World thing, can I pretend that Norway and Denmark haven't joined NATO yet, just to make this vaguely realistic?

Yeah I kind of wanted it to roughly follow history prior to 1950. So Norway and Denmark abstaining from NATO is fine, I just meant I didn't want Nazi Germany to have won WWII or anything drastic like that.

Ooooh, can I have Reinhard Heydrich?

Man with the Iron Heart? What's that? Some sort of fancy cake?

[Benutanairan]

Yeah I kind of wanted it to roughly follow history prior to 1950. So Norway and Denmark abstaining from NATO is fine, I just meant I didn't want Nazi Germany to have won WWII or anything drastic like that.

Ooooh, can I have Reinhard Heydrich?

Man with the Iron Heart? What's that? Some sort of fancy cake?

Really XD I love your sarcasm.

[Ardboe Eire]

I did say "possibly Finland", so I was thinking this probably wouldn't be manageable, but the rest can evolve out of the Scandinavian Defense Union, assuming it actually gets put into practice instead of Norway and Denmark running off to NATO. You said all previous stuff applies, but since this is an Alternate World thing, can I pretend that Norway and Denmark haven't joined NATO yet, just to make this vaguely realistic?

Yeah I kind of wanted it to roughly follow history prior to 1950. So Norway and Denmark abstaining from NATO is fine, I just meant I didn't want Nazi Germany to have won WWII or anything drastic like that.

When will the IC start Vehemia?

[Boriem]

Organization Name: ローターハウス(Rotahausu)
Leader: Lieutenant Kobayashi
Foundation Date: 1947
Head Officials: Shogu Miromoto, Joji Yakamatsu
Base of Operations: Kyoto
Countries Located In: Japan
Countries Supported By: Spain, Yugoslavia
Number of Personnel: Approx. 24,000 Japanese Soldiers, 5,000 Civilians
Supported Ideology: Fascism, Anti-Communism,
Main Goal: To take power over Japan and reassert Japanese supremacy.

Accepted minus the support of Yugoslavia who are communist.

Yugoslavia was indeed Communist, that I understand.

But if I may make my point, historically they were opposed to the Soviet Union and most likely an ally in the east trying to destabilize the USSR would be all too nice to have.

Also, it's important to note that Titoism is closer to Fascism(Without the ethnocentrism associated with the ideology.) that it is to true Communism.

[Vehemia]

Just change your resources and you're accepted. By strategic resources I mean natural gas, metals, timber etc.

hmmmm, what would the USSR have?

Practically everything Natural gas, petroleum, metals, timber, coal...

[Zaras]

Yugoslavia was indeed Communist, that I understand.

But if I may make my point, historically they were opposed to the Soviet Union and most likely an ally in the east trying to destabilize the USSR would be all too nice to have.

Also, it's important to note that Titoism is closer to Fascism(Without the ethnocentrism associated with the ideology.) that it is to true Communism.

Actually, Tito's economic policies resembled a bizarre hybrid of workers' self-management, command economy, some free market elements and freedom of movement of labour, which accounted for Yugoslavia's high standard of living. Not really that fascist.

[Vehemia]

Yeah I kind of wanted it to roughly follow history prior to 1950. So Norway and Denmark abstaining from NATO is fine, I just meant I didn't want Nazi Germany to have won WWII or anything drastic like that.

When will the IC start Vehemia?

ASAP

[Ardboe Eire]

When will the IC start Vehemia?

ASAP

[Vehemia]

Link to IC is up in the OP

[Carathon]

You never answered my question about Heydrich.

[Vehemia]

You never answered my question about Heydrich.

You can have him.

[Zaras]

I have to go to bed, so I'll wait until somebody else makes the first post to go IC.

[The Russian People]

Will post app tomorrow......Thinking about taking the State of Israel.

[Vehemia]

Will post app tomorrow......Thinking about taking the State of Israel.

Good, I was hoping the Middle East would get some attention.

[Jade Confederacy]

is the UK still open?

[Vehemia]

is the UK still open?

Yes, all the taken countries have asterisk next to them in the list of countries.

[Jade Confederacy]

is the UK still open?

Yes, all the taken countries have asterisk next to them in the list of countries.

hard to believe such minor countries were taken before one of the permanent 5
is there a good site for post ww2 military data? im having a hard time trying to dig up info, google is being unusually suborn

[Zaras]

is the UK still open?

Yes, all the taken countries have asterisk next to them in the list of countries.

Y'should mark the Scandinavian ones as taken then?

[Zaras]

Yes, all the taken countries have asterisk next to them in the list of countries.

hard to believe such minor countries were taken before one of the permanent 5
is there a good site for post ww2 military data? im having a hard time trying to dig up info, good is being unusually suborn

I know, rite? I couldn't find anything about Swedish, Danish or Norwegian military capabilities in 1950.

[Jade Confederacy]

Country: United Kingdom & Colonies /British Empire
Leader: Clement Attlee
Ideology: Anti-Communism & Imperialism
Alignment: America
Currency: British Pound
Capital: London
Population: 50 million citizens and ~80 million colonials
Military Numbers in All (Personnel):
-Navy (Ships): 40,000
-Army (Troops): 100,000
-Air Force (Aircraft): 12,000
Nuclear Weapons Capable: nearing capability (1952)
Main Strategic Resources: Industrial metals, Oil, Uranium
Claimed Territories: Canada, Australia, NZ, South Africa, Nigeria, and Rhodesia (Zimbabwe); anyone can rp as one of the colonies, I will give them either full independence or the right to rp under the British Empire’s framework