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Vehemia
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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:01 pm

Garwall wrote:
Vehemia wrote:I think you put the manpower of the navy rather than the ships. You also left out the resources.


I'm looking into the resources, and the ships as well. The data on the composition of Yugoslavia's military is fuzzy, most of my numbers are pretty arbitrary/guesswork. I can come up with some amounts after looking into their navy's composition post-war, if you want.

It had 32 ships right before the breakup, I'd say that's a reasonable number. Resources were copper, some coal, and oil.
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Postby Garwall » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:03 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Garwall wrote:
I'm looking into the resources, and the ships as well. The data on the composition of Yugoslavia's military is fuzzy, most of my numbers are pretty arbitrary/guesswork. I can come up with some amounts after looking into their navy's composition post-war, if you want.

It had 32 ships right before the breakup, I'd say that's a reasonable number. Resources were copper, some coal, and oil.


Problem was most of that was destroyed during the invasion, with the rest thrown into the Axis navies, and subsequently destroyed. Plus, post-war Yugoslavian Navy was focused on coastal defense with submarines and missile boats, instead of attempting to project power in the Mediterranean in the form of battleships and cruisers.
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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:08 pm

Garwall wrote:
Vehemia wrote:It had 32 ships right before the breakup, I'd say that's a reasonable number. Resources were copper, some coal, and oil.


Problem was most of that was destroyed during the invasion, with the rest thrown into the Axis navies, and subsequently destroyed. Plus, post-war Yugoslavian Navy was focused on coastal defense with submarines and missile boats, instead of attempting to project power in the Mediterranean in the form of battleships and cruisers.

I meant before the 90s breakup. Your right about its composition though
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Postby Garwall » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:13 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Garwall wrote:
Problem was most of that was destroyed during the invasion, with the rest thrown into the Axis navies, and subsequently destroyed. Plus, post-war Yugoslavian Navy was focused on coastal defense with submarines and missile boats, instead of attempting to project power in the Mediterranean in the form of battleships and cruisers.

I meant before the 90s breakup. Your right about its composition though


I'll just state it's in the process of restructuring/rearming, so its ships are all either scuttled, being repaired, not yet commissioned/completed, or otherwise unfit for service.
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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:18 pm

Garwall wrote:
Vehemia wrote:
I meant before the 90s breakup. Your right about its composition though


I'll just state it's in the process of restructuring/rearming, so its ships are all either scuttled, being repaired, not yet commissioned/completed, or otherwise unfit for service.

Alright, now that that's settled your accepted.
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Postby Sabara » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:00 pm

Country: The Great Japanense Federation
Leader: Prime Minister Itami Ajuku

Ideology: Free Market

Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : America

Currency: Yen

Capital: Edo (Tokyo)

Population: 49,800,509

Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 75,000*
Army- 750,000


Nuclear Weapons Capable: Although nuclear research is allowed for power only resources, the government is also looking into possible nuclear capability.

Main Strategic Resources: Fish is about the only resource, although manufacturing (such as aerospace and automobile industries) is booming.
Claimed Territories: Japan and the island chains of Okinawa and Ryuku

*Note- the 75,000 is known as the Erito Keisatsu, Police Force.l
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Postby Sabara » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:01 pm

D:
Someone already claimed Japan :/

Are they still active?
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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:07 pm

Sabara wrote:Country: The Great Japanense Federation
Leader: Prime Minister Itami Ajuku

Ideology: Free Market

Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : America

Currency: Yen

Capital: Edo (Tokyo)

Population: 49,800,509

Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 451,329
-Navy (Ships): 21
-Army (Troops): 150,560
-Air Force (Aircraft): 1,319

Nuclear Weapons Capable: Although nuclear research is allowed for power only resources, the government is also looking into possible nuclear capability.

Main Strategic Resources: Fish is about the only resource, although manufacturing (such as aerospace and automobile industries) is booming.
Claimed Territories: Japan and the island chains of Okinawa and Ryuku

Japan is not taken, but had no military at this point. All it had was a "police force" of 75,000 men armed with infantry weapons.
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Postby Garwall » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:07 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Garwall wrote:
I'll just state it's in the process of restructuring/rearming, so its ships are all either scuttled, being repaired, not yet commissioned/completed, or otherwise unfit for service.

Alright, now that that's settled your accepted.


Alright, awesome!
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Postby Sabara » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:08 pm

Vehemia wrote:
Sabara wrote:Country: The Great Japanense Federation
Leader: Prime Minister Itami Ajuku

Ideology: Free Market

Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : America

Currency: Yen

Capital: Edo (Tokyo)

Population: 49,800,509

Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 451,329
-Navy (Ships): 21
-Army (Troops): 150,560
-Air Force (Aircraft): 1,319

Nuclear Weapons Capable: Although nuclear research is allowed for power only resources, the government is also looking into possible nuclear capability.

Main Strategic Resources: Fish is about the only resource, although manufacturing (such as aerospace and automobile industries) is booming.
Claimed Territories: Japan and the island chains of Okinawa and Ryuku

Japan is not taken, but had no military at this point. All it had was a "police force" of 75,000 men armed with infantry weapons.


Okay, I can change that :P
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Postby Sabara » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:10 pm

Sabara wrote:Country: The Great Japanense Federation
Leader: Prime Minister Itami Ajuku

Ideology: Free Market

Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : America

Currency: Yen

Capital: Edo (Tokyo)

Population: 49,800,509

Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 75,000*
Army- 750,000


Nuclear Weapons Capable: Although nuclear research is allowed for power only resources, the government is also looking into possible nuclear capability.

Main Strategic Resources: Fish is about the only resource, although manufacturing (such as aerospace and automobile industries) is booming.
Claimed Territories: Japan and the island chains of Okinawa and Ryuku

*Note- the 75,000 is known as the Erito Keisatsu, Police Force.


Le edited.
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Postby Vehemia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:29 pm

Sabara wrote:
Sabara wrote:Country: The Great Japanense Federation
Leader: Prime Minister Itami Ajuku

Ideology: Free Market

Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned) : America

Currency: Yen

Capital: Edo (Tokyo)

Population: 49,800,509

Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 75,000*
Army- 750,000


Nuclear Weapons Capable: Although nuclear research is allowed for power only resources, the government is also looking into possible nuclear capability.

Main Strategic Resources: Fish is about the only resource, although manufacturing (such as aerospace and automobile industries) is booming.
Claimed Territories: Japan and the island chains of Okinawa and Ryuku

*Note- the 75,000 is known as the Erito Keisatsu, Police Force.


Le edited.

Accepted, provided the 750,000 in the army is supposed to be 75,000 :lol: Also keep in mind Japan is effectively an American colony at this point and won't become independent until 1951.
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Postby Garwall » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:09 pm

Anyone be willing to act on behalf of Albania? I can help with the Viet Cong if need be, btw.
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Whoever has New Zealand.. Australia is waiting for a reply.. Otherwise, I cannot think of anything else I can do at this time..
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:22 am

France or US needs to post.
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:23 am

Jamessonia wrote:France or US needs to post.



Im about to XD
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:30 am

Benutanairan wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:France or US needs to post.



Im about to XD


K cool :)
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Postby Mishmahig » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:07 am

Country: People's Republic of Albania
Leader: Enver Hoxha
Ideology: Socialist/Communist
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned): USSR
Currency: Albanian Lek
Capital: Tirana
Population: 12,189,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 150,000
-Navy (Ships): 75 ships (had 145 in 1996, so I rounded down considerably)
-Army (Troops): 130,000, plus partisan troops.
-Air Force (Aircraft): 240
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Nope. Researching, but it's a long shot.
Main Strategic Resources: petroleum, coal, iron ore, nickel.
Claimed Territories: Linky

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Postby Unicario » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:23 am

Country: Israel
Leader: President Chaim Weizmann
Ideology: Social Democracy
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned): America
Currency: Israeli shekel
Capital: Tel Aviv (claimed: Jerusalem)
Population: 2,375,100
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 150,000
-Navy (Ships): 5 destroyers, 1 submarine (all ex-US Navy)
-Army (Troops): 150,000 soldiers, all distributed over the cavalry, infantry and artillery.
-Air Force (Aircraft): A few interceptors, a strategic bomber and a tac bomber (all ex-USAF)
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Not at the current time *wink*
Main Strategic Resources: Natural gas and copper
Claimed Territories: Palestine
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Postby Zaras » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:31 pm

Unicario wrote:Leader: President Ishmael Teverez


Chaim Weizmann was actually President in 1950.
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Postby Unicario » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:34 pm

Zaras wrote:
Unicario wrote:Leader: President Ishmael Teverez


Chaim Weizmann was actually President in 1950.


It was a completely false name that I made. Thank you.
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Postby Vehemia » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:39 pm

Mishmahig wrote:Country: People's Republic of Albania
Leader: Enver Hoxha
Ideology: Socialist/Communist
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned): USSR
Currency: Albanian Lek
Capital: Tirana
Population: 12,189,000
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 150,000
-Navy (Ships): 75 ships (had 145 in 1996, so I rounded down considerably)
-Army (Troops): 130,000, plus partisan troops.
-Air Force (Aircraft): 240
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Nope. Researching, but it's a long shot.
Main Strategic Resources: petroleum, coal, iron ore, nickel.
Claimed Territories: Linky

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Unicario wrote:Country: Israel
Leader: President Ishmael Teverez
Ideology: Social Democracy
Alignment (America, USSR, Unaligned): America
Currency: Israeli sheqel
Capital: Tel Aviv (claimed: Jerusalem)
Population: 2,375,100
Military Numbers in All (Personnel): 150,000
-Navy (Ships): 5 battleships, 5 destroyers, 1 carrier, 1 submarine (all ex-US Navy)
-Army (Troops): 150,000 soldiers, all distributed over the cavalry, infantry and artillery.
-Air Force (Aircraft): A few interceptors, a strategic bomber and a tac bomber (all ex-USAF)
Nuclear Weapons Capable: Not at the current time *wink*
Main Strategic Resources: TBD
Claimed Territories: Palestine


President at this time was Chaim Weizmann, it has natural gas and copper as resources, and most definitely did not have battleships or carriers :lol: I'll keep Israel reserved for you though, just edit the app and your accepted.
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Postby Zaras » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:48 pm

Unicario wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Chaim Weizmann was actually President in 1950.


It was a completely false name that I made. Thank you.


You're welcome. :)

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Postby Unicario » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:00 pm

Edited.
Dai Ginkaigan Teikoku
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Ruling party is the Zenminjintō (Socialist Coalition)
Ginkaigan is currently at peace.

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Postby Vehemia » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:06 pm

Zaras wrote:
Unicario wrote:
It was a completely false name that I made. Thank you.


You're welcome. :)

Some things are easier to find out than others. I still don't have a bloody clue what Sweden's military capabilities were in 1950, so I'm very seat-of-the-pants about it.


Well they had a really good airforce (thanks to Saab), an average navy consisting of a mix of cruisers and destroyers from the end of WWII and more modern destroyers and submarines. Their army had really good mobilization times, 100,000 men in a few hours, due to the threat of Soviet invasion.
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