Quest for the Crown (medieval, OOC, COMPLETED)

[Damak Var]

Merodin, so Elendil has a reputation among the desert people. Can you elaborate on this? Akmal should react a certain way from hearing she is "Sikth Nathreen" but I dont really have anything to go off.

Also for the new players, just so you know...

King Telvion III is very reclusive and barely takes charge of the Crown's affairs. Princess Charlia, Telvion's daughter is serving as Regent and is the de facto King. Before her it was Prince Galvion.

Prince Jestrion while being the crown prince is only in charge of the military being "Supreme Commander of the Royal Army". Charlia has the Wallstryn political power.

[Shnercropolis]

Khorsu will go into the desert camp... but he won't recognize Galvion or Elia.

[Damak Var]

I read the post. Won't be much of a message once Akmal outdoes Tjuko by sending him the heads of the men he captured.

EDIT: Though I am starting to think "hideout" means easily "easily found and accessible location" seeing as how many people have found and journeyed to the camp.

[Shnercropolis]

I read the post. Won't be much of a message once Akmal outdoes Tjuko by sending him the heads of the men he captured.

EDIT: Though I am starting to think "hideout" means easily "easily found and accessible location" seeing as how many people have found and journeyed to the camp.

True. Elindil found it just by going to the desert and looking over the horizon. It must be a really awful hideout.

However, I'd say that after awhile people in the desert would figure it out.

[Damak Var]

Map Update

I need names for the rivers each person requested so that Halleon, New Lowlands, Merodin, and San.

Call mine the Bann, to keep the theme of the Bannorn, please.

I forgot to ask, what is this theme?

and Map Update

[Shnercropolis]

Call mine the Bann, to keep the theme of the Bannorn, please.

I forgot to ask, what is this theme?

Kind of like how mine is Bath.

[Merodin]

I read the post. Won't be much of a message once Akmal outdoes Tjuko by sending him the heads of the men he captured.

EDIT: Though I am starting to think "hideout" means easily "easily found and accessible location" seeing as how many people have found and journeyed to the camp.

True. Elindil found it just by going to the desert and looking over the horizon. It must be a really awful.

Umm it actually took her several days to just travel to the desert alone. The reason she was able to find the hideout was because her Rangers had drawn her a map to where the battlefield had taken place and the general direction the retreating tribesmen had taken.

She didn't just "look at the horizon and find it".

She had to scour for tracks and follow them, but the tribesmen were smart and backtracked, went in circles, etc to throw off any follower costing her time. In essence it took her nearly almost a week to find the hideout.

I'm more interested in how 200 men can travel the desert "quickly and silently" in a few hours when it took Elendil nearly a day and a half. 200 men have a lot of baggage. Food, armor, weapons, etc. ultimately weighing down the horses (if there were any, though I did not see mention of them and then you wrote that Tsu ran at them) Unless you rped them taking longer or did they just appear? Then you find Akmal's camp after a few loyal tribesmen saw some fires in the distance or should I say by "looking over the horizon." ?

Anyways, several of us have already contributed to ruining the allusion of a hideout not just anyone of us.

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@ Damak

The name Helyanwe should have some angering effect. As The Helyanwes have always been fighting with the southern tribes as highlighted in House Helyanwe and the Desert Raiders

In my very first post, she offered to cause some problems for the tribesmen for Goldradir. These problems included her Rangers riding out and firing at tribesmen, a small fleet of the Navy maneuvering to destroy some of the fishing vessels the tribesmen had to the east, and other ways that would give the tribesmen trouble. When they did these tasks however the Helyanwe Forces would leave the Helyanwe sigil with Elendil's name across the bottom.

Basically, Elendil is the figurehead for all the problems the tribesmen experience at the hands of the Helyanwe forces recently. So maybe Akmal would be proud that he'd finally caught her?

[Shnercropolis]

True. Elindil found it just by going to the desert and looking over the horizon. It must be a really awful.

Umm it actually took her several days to just travel to the desert alone. The reason she was able to find the hideout was because her Rangers had drawn her a map to where the battlefield had taken place and the general direction the retreating tribesmen had taken.

She didn't just "look at the horizon and find it".

She had to scour for tracks and follow them, but the tribesmen were smart and backtracked, went in circles, etc to throw off any follower costing her time. In essence it took her nearly almost a week to find the hideout.

I'm more interested in how 200 men can travel the desert "quickly and silently" in a few hours when it took Elendil nearly a day and a half. 200 men have a lot of baggage. Food, armor, weapons, etc. ultimately weighing down the horses. Unless you rped them taking longer or did they just appear? Then you find Akmal's camp after a few loyal tribesmen saw some fires in the distance or should I say by "looking at the horizon." ?

Anyways, several of us have already contributed to ruining the allusion of a hideout not just anyone of us.

Unless the fires were extremely bright, there would be no fires over the horizon. A camp would be best near an oasis(like the Goragmann that the tribesmen happened to be going by). Thusly, one could probably see a faint glow below the horizon, less than ~10 miles away(assuming they're at the top of a low dune or something). Still, that would need to be very bright or badly hidden fires. Hardly hideout-worthy.

And yes, I left out most of the travel. They would have started from Quer, which I'm RPing as being about 3 days' ride from the hideout. So a six day trip. I could pack a six day trip into a backpack, and that's with all the comforts that a modern boy scout enjoys. Substitute those for armor and weapons and whatnot and you have it. You asked how 200 men could move quickly and silently; well, just the same way that one man might, and spread out. And they'd be camouflaged.

hope you liked my long and somewhat defensive explanations.

[Damak Var]

Akmal knew they were coming, which is why Tjuko was ambushed making the whole excursion a giant blunder. In this situation I don't believe Tjuko could have taken 200 men through leagues of enemy territory undetected and Akmal's camp is definitely more than 3 days away. His army was just shattered, he wouldn't stick around that close to the border.

Also boy scout troops don't have to feed warhorses on their trips and hiding 1 person is not the equivalent of hiding 200, at least in this RP.

It's fine, just something to remember for later on.

[Merodin]

Umm it actually took her several days to just travel to the desert alone. The reason she was able to find the hideout was because her Rangers had drawn her a map to where the battlefield had taken place and the general direction the retreating tribesmen had taken.

She didn't just "look at the horizon and find it".

She had to scour for tracks and follow them, but the tribesmen were smart and backtracked, went in circles, etc to throw off any follower costing her time. In essence it took her nearly almost a week to find the hideout.

I'm more interested in how 200 men can travel the desert "quickly and silently" in a few hours when it took Elendil nearly a day and a half. 200 men have a lot of baggage. Food, armor, weapons, etc. ultimately weighing down the horses. Unless you rped them taking longer or did they just appear? Then you find Akmal's camp after a few loyal tribesmen saw some fires in the distance or should I say by "looking at the horizon." ?

Anyways, several of us have already contributed to ruining the allusion of a hideout not just anyone of us.

Unless the fires were extremely bright, there would be no fires over the horizon. A camp would be best near an oasis(like the Goragmann that the tribesmen happened to be going by). Thusly, one could probably see a faint glow below the horizon, less than ~10 miles away(assuming they're at the top of a low dune or something). Still, that would need to be very bright or badly hidden fires. Hardly hideout-worthy.

And yes, I left out most of the travel. They would have started from Quer, which I'm RPing as being about 3 days' ride from the hideout. So a six day trip. I could pack a six day trip into a backpack, and that's with all the comforts that a modern boy scout enjoys. Substitute those for armor and weapons and whatnot and you have it. You asked how 200 men could move quickly and silently; well, just the same way that one man might, and spread out. And they'd be camouflaged.

hope you liked my long and somewhat defensive explanations.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.

Somehow, I don't find mention of Akaml's tribe near an oasis nor it being "Goragmann" as you say. So your tribesmen can see the fires but not Elendil? She more or less found the camp by following the tracks and when she was near enough she could see the smoke. I understand how you got confused now because I wrote fire and you took it as literally being able to see the flames. I apologize, I should've clarified it better in my IC post.

Well, in regard to you leaving out the travel, I can only say that you should have put it in. Otherwise it looks as if your 200 guys appeared out of nowhere with no mention of raising the 200, traveling, etc. as it appeared so to me.

I think that the uniform of a boy scout and their pack is significantly less in weight than chainmail, helmets, greaves, coifs, etc. not to mention the weapons.

In regards to your 200 men travel the same as one. That's not solid reasoning. First they would leave more tracks than a single person would. They would also be easier to spot than one person despite what camouflage they have if they spread out.

Edit:
Sorry, Damak. I did not see your post.

Shner, I do apologize if I came off aggressive. I was just upset that you pointed at only Elendil as if it was her fault (and in doing so, mine) that the hideout was no longer a secret.

[Halleon]

I thought the whole point of Galvion being taken from the battle by Akmal was so that Galvion would be hidden away? It kinda seem's like that whole purpose has been changed since at least from what I know 2 or 3 rpers have already found Akmal's Camp. You would think Akmal would be moving from spot to spot to avoid detection instead of staying in the same camping area?

If I got anything wrong sorry but just not understanding why everyone is searching for Akmal or in that case even searching for Galvion when there's a Civil War happening.

[Shnercropolis]

Unless the fires were extremely bright, there would be no fires over the horizon. A camp would be best near an oasis(like the Goragmann that the tribesmen happened to be going by). Thusly, one could probably see a faint glow below the horizon, less than ~10 miles away(assuming they're at the top of a low dune or something). Still, that would need to be very bright or badly hidden fires. Hardly hideout-worthy.

And yes, I left out most of the travel. They would have started from Quer, which I'm RPing as being about 3 days' ride from the hideout. So a six day trip. I could pack a six day trip into a backpack, and that's with all the comforts that a modern boy scout enjoys. Substitute those for armor and weapons and whatnot and you have it. You asked how 200 men could move quickly and silently; well, just the same way that one man might, and spread out. And they'd be camouflaged.

hope you liked my long and somewhat defensive explanations.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.

Somehow, I don't find mention of Akaml's tribe near an oasis nor it being "Goragmann" as you say. So your tribesmen can see the fires but not Elendil? She more or less found the camp by following the tracks and when she was near enough she could see the smoke. I understand how you got confused now because I wrote fire and you took it as literally being able to see the flames. I apologize, I should've clarified it better in my IC post.

Well, in regard to you leaving out the travel, I can only say that you should have put it in. Otherwise it looks as if your 200 guys appeared out of nowhere with no mention of raising the 200, traveling, etc. as it appeared so to me.

I think that the uniform of a boy scout and their pack is significantly less in weight than chainmail, helmets, greaves, coifs, etc. not to mention the weapons.

In regards to your 200 men travel the same as one. That's not solid reasoning. First they would leave more tracks than a single person would. They would also be easier to spot than one person despite what camouflage they have if they spread out.

Edit:
Sorry, Damak. I did not see your post.

Shner, I do apologize if I came off aggressive. I was just upset that you pointed at only Elendil as if it was her fault (and in doing so, mine) that the hideout was no longer a secret.

The tracks wouldn't matter, it's the dead of the night.
ANd they wouldn't have chainmail. More like a boiled leather chestplate and maybe boiled leather greaves

Akmal knew they were coming, which is why Tjuko was ambushed making the whole excursion a giant blunder. In this situation I don't believe Tjuko could have taken 200 men through leagues of enemy territory undetected and Akmal's camp is definitely more than 3 days away. His army was just shattered, he wouldn't stick around that close to the border.

Also boy scout troops don't have to feed warhorses on their trips and hiding 1 person is not the equivalent of hiding 200, at least in this RP.

It's fine, just something to remember for later on.

So why is he apparently 1.5 days from Ahkour? Or is that in the deep desert?

I'm confused.

[Firstaria]

I read the post. Won't be much of a message once Akmal outdoes Tjuko by sending him the heads of the men he captured.

EDIT: Though I am starting to think "hideout" means easily "easily found and accessible location" seeing as how many people have found and journeyed to the camp.

On my defense, my hunter had high desert experience.

[Damak Var]

I read the post. Won't be much of a message once Akmal outdoes Tjuko by sending him the heads of the men he captured.

EDIT: Though I am starting to think "hideout" means easily "easily found and accessible location" seeing as how many people have found and journeyed to the camp.

On my defense, my hunter had high desert experience.

Does that mean if i get a character with "high forest experience" i should be able to make posts traversing firania's forests with impunity and finding hidden locations?

You see what i mean there? I would say experience in that field equates to a higher probability of succes compared to those who dont. Its like being good at gunfighting. You may have experience and skill at it but theres still a great chance youll get shot anyways. There's leagues of hostile territory between the border and akmals camp with enemy combatants who are just as experienced if not more. I didnt really understand why characters would risk so much on a far fetched speculation with unacceptable projected returns. But thats the finance major in me.

Anyways, it doesnt matter anymore. Everything so far is fine. If you have an objection to somebody's post make sure you bring it up quickly.

[Firstaria]

Oh by the way, I was gonna answer to Jestrion, but the forum stopped working a while ago. I'll try to recover the post.

[Merodin]

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.

Somehow, I don't find mention of Akaml's tribe near an oasis nor it being "Goragmann" as you say. So your tribesmen can see the fires but not Elendil? She more or less found the camp by following the tracks and when she was near enough she could see the smoke. I understand how you got confused now because I wrote fire and you took it as literally being able to see the flames. I apologize, I should've clarified it better in my IC post.

Well, in regard to you leaving out the travel, I can only say that you should have put it in. Otherwise it looks as if your 200 guys appeared out of nowhere with no mention of raising the 200, traveling, etc. as it appeared so to me.

I think that the uniform of a boy scout and their pack is significantly less in weight than chainmail, helmets, greaves, coifs, etc. not to mention the weapons.

In regards to your 200 men travel the same as one. That's not solid reasoning. First they would leave more tracks than a single person would. They would also be easier to spot than one person despite what camouflage they have if they spread out.

Edit:
Sorry, Damak. I did not see your post.

Shner, I do apologize if I came off aggressive. I was just upset that you pointed at only Elendil as if it was her fault (and in doing so, mine) that the hideout was no longer a secret.

The tracks wouldn't matter, it's the dead of the night.
ANd they wouldn't have chainmail. More like a boiled leather chestplate and maybe boiled leather greaves

Akmal knew they were coming, which is why Tjuko was ambushed making the whole excursion a giant blunder. In this situation I don't believe Tjuko could have taken 200 men through leagues of enemy territory undetected and Akmal's camp is definitely more than 3 days away. His army was just shattered, he wouldn't stick around that close to the border.

Also boy scout troops don't have to feed warhorses on their trips and hiding 1 person is not the equivalent of hiding 200, at least in this RP.

It's fine, just something to remember for later on.

So why is he apparently 1.5 days from Ahkour? Or is that in the deep desert?

I'm confused.

Really? Its the dead of night?

[spoiler]

Near the Desert Camp, Desert
Tjuko Yunkai and his band of 200 advanced swiftly and silently through the desert. They knew how to remain unseen, as they had all been well trained in the Mojave. Most of Tjuko's little band were archers; 90 of them. The rest were swordsmen, except a few thieves recently acquitted of their crimes. They were traveling to Amkal's camp, to harry it and show those desert people who were in charge. They had information from a few Tolklatz tribesmen, who were at times sworn to house Yunkai and at times not, who had been going to the Goragmann oasis to scout it for setting up a farm. They had seen Amkal's fires and came back to report the location.

Now Tjuko was running silently along the ground, dressed in the sand-colored robes of thievery. They would at least harass the desert folk and force them farther south, maybe even all the way to Hell's Basin. At last they saw the camp coming over a dune. Tjuko gave the signal to stop, and gave more signals for the archers to go about and set up. The archers knew what to do once they made it.

Within seconds, there were screams. The archers were ordered to fire six arrows at most, then break and run back to their horses. They did so, and ran back. The swordsmen ran as well; they were there only for the purpose of guarding the archers on the way back. They fled to the horses, saddled up, and galloped away. They would go as far as they could go, up to the little town of Quer.

I see no mention of the time of day or the word "night" in your post...so...
I'm also going on the assumption now that they had traveled by moonlight in the desert, correct? Which is perfectly fine as Elendil did the same to avoid attracting attention to herself with a torch.
Boiled leather armament, weapons, etc. still weigh heavier than light fabrics and shorts. Not to mention their bundles of camouflage for the freezing nights in the desert and to hide in the sand with.

In truth, I have no idea how far in the desert Akmal really is. I had wanted Elendil to reach the camp with enough provisions to still travel back across the desert to Derria. She would have never made it for more than three days with the provisions of only one horse. Besides that, I really wanted to just reach the camp so I shortened how long it took her. I thought one and near half a day would be a good time because I figured once Akmal realized that the Derrian army was no longer giving chase, he would allow his people to rest and lick their wounds. I apologize for any confusion that may have caused you, Schner.

Just disregard above.

I don't have any argument with your post though. Its fine by me. The reason I started criticizing it was because you criticized Elendil for seeing the camp by just "looking at the horizon." and so I pointed at the flaws in yours.

Really my point, before we digressed, was that I'm just upset that you pointed the finger so quickly at Elendil (me) and just her when really theres three of us here who've been to the hideout. Not just one of us is to blame. We all share in it is what I'm getting at.

[Damak Var]

Oh New Lowlands, I didnt know that was Alexi, head of House Velun. I thought it was just some bannerman or whatever. We'll just play it out so Jestrion has not seen him since he was really young so he doesn't recognize Alexi.

Also isn't he a bed ridden sickly old man? How did Alexi travel so far?

[Shnercropolis]

The tracks wouldn't matter, it's the dead of the night.
ANd they wouldn't have chainmail. More like a boiled leather chestplate and maybe boiled leather greaves


So why is he apparently 1.5 days from Ahkour? Or is that in the deep desert?

I'm confused.

Really? Its the dead of night?

[spoiler]

Near the Desert Camp, Desert
Tjuko Yunkai and his band of 200 advanced swiftly and silently through the desert. They knew how to remain unseen, as they had all been well trained in the Mojave. Most of Tjuko's little band were archers; 90 of them. The rest were swordsmen, except a few thieves recently acquitted of their crimes. They were traveling to Amkal's camp, to harry it and show those desert people who were in charge. They had information from a few Tolklatz tribesmen, who were at times sworn to house Yunkai and at times not, who had been going to the Goragmann oasis to scout it for setting up a farm. They had seen Amkal's fires and came back to report the location.

Now Tjuko was running silently along the ground, dressed in the sand-colored robes of thievery. They would at least harass the desert folk and force them farther south, maybe even all the way to Hell's Basin. At last they saw the camp coming over a dune. Tjuko gave the signal to stop, and gave more signals for the archers to go about and set up. The archers knew what to do once they made it.

Within seconds, there were screams. The archers were ordered to fire six arrows at most, then break and run back to their horses. They did so, and ran back. The swordsmen ran as well; they were there only for the purpose of guarding the archers on the way back. They fled to the horses, saddled up, and galloped away. They would go as far as they could go, up to the little town of Quer.

I see no mention of the time of day or the word "night" in your post...so...
I'm also going on the assumption now that they had traveled by moonlight in the desert, correct? Which is perfectly fine as Elendil did the same to avoid attracting attention to herself with a torch.
Boiled leather armament, weapons, etc. still weigh heavier than light fabrics and shorts. Not to mention their bundles of camouflage for the freezing nights in the desert and to hide in the sand with.

In truth, I have no idea how far in the desert Akmal really is. I had wanted Elendil to reach the camp with enough provisions to still travel back across the desert to Derria. She would have never made it for more than three days with the provisions of only one horse. Besides that, I really wanted to just reach the camp so I shortened how long it took her. I thought one and near half a day would be a good time because I figured once Akmal realized that the Derrian army was no longer giving chase, he would allow his people to rest and lick their wounds. I apologize for any confusion that may have caused you, Schner.

Just disregard above.

I don't have any argument with your post though. Its fine by me. The reason I started criticizing it was because you criticized Elendil for seeing the camp by just "looking at the horizon." and so I pointed at the flaws in yours.

Really my point, before we digressed, was that I'm just upset that you pointed the finger so quickly at Elendil (me) and just her when really theres three of us here who've been to the hideout. Not just one of us is to blame. We all share in it is what I'm getting at.

I was giving an example. Also, it was the only one I'd actually read the post for.

[Damak Var]

Prince, the roads of the Crownlands are many and well maintained actually (look at my military overview app), also there is not much banditry...yet. I should also note that the Royal Army has just recently cross the border into Kursturm if nobody picked up on that.

[Damak Var]

Hmm...20000 marching north to Sturmwall, 21000 in Ferndale as reserve, another 12000 Velun reinforcements....I'm going to need to even it out. After winning a few battles Jestrion's army might just suffer dysentery during the siege. Kind like the English at Harfleur.

[The New Lowlands]

Hmm...20000 marching north to Sturmwall, 21000 in Ferndale as reserve, another 12000 Velun reinforcements....I'm going to need to even it out. After winning a few battles Jestrion's army might just suffer dysentery during the siege. Kind like the English at Harfleur.

This is the part where Alexi goes renegade.

Feck dysentery man, that shit's nasty. >.>

[Damak Var]

Hmm...20000 marching north to Sturmwall, 21000 in Ferndale as reserve, another 12000 Velun reinforcements....I'm going to need to even it out. After winning a few battles Jestrion's army might just suffer dysentery during the siege. Kind like the English at Harfleur.

This is the part where Alexi goes renegade.

Feck dysentery man, that shit's nasty. >.>

I thought Alexi was about to die. What happened? And what do you mean by renegade? That sounds ominous. Is he going rebel?

And could you fill out the military overview app before any further military actions?

[The New Lowlands]

This is the part where Alexi goes renegade.

Feck dysentery man, that shit's nasty. >.>

I thought Alexi was about to die. What happened? And what do you mean by renegade? That sounds ominous. Is he going rebel?

And could you fill out the military overview app before any further military actions?

He still is about to die, but I decided to delay his appointment with the Reaper for some time.

As to whether he's going to rebel, future events will decide such; for now, I think he'll mostly be very unwilling to participate in a siege, preferring profitable raids to such an action.

What do you mean by the military overview app? Is that what Merodin recently filled out?

[Merodin]

I thought Alexi was about to die. What happened? And what do you mean by renegade? That sounds ominous. Is he going rebel?

And could you fill out the military overview app before any further military actions?

He still is about to die, but I decided to delay his appointment with the Reaper for some time.

As to whether he's going to rebel, future events will decide such; for now, I think he'll mostly be very unwilling to participate in a siege, preferring profitable raids to such an action.

What do you mean by the military overview app? Is that what Merodin recently filled out?

Yeah, I forgot to do it, too.

I also laughed at your play on words.

[Damak Var]

I thought Alexi was about to die. What happened? And what do you mean by renegade? That sounds ominous. Is he going rebel?

And could you fill out the military overview app before any further military actions?

He still is about to die, but I decided to delay his appointment with the Reaper for some time.

As to whether he's going to rebel, future events will decide such; for now, I think he'll mostly be very unwilling to participate in a siege, preferring profitable raids to such an action.

What do you mean by the military overview app? Is that what Merodin recently filled out?

Oh nice, that'll be interesting if he rebels. That would put Philippa in an awkward position if she sticks with Jestrion. Perhaps Alexi can complete a chevauchee?

The formats for the military overview can be found in the second post of this thread.