Quest for the Crown (medieval, OOC, COMPLETED)

[Firstaria]

As long as the Night Hunters are the best FOREST AND SEA ARCHERS, I don't care getting second in other archery disciplines. That's my thing.

[Damak Var]

As long as the Night Hunters are the best FOREST AND SEA ARCHERS, I don't care getting second in other archery disciplines. That's my thing.

I don't think so! At sea longbowmen do great, see Battle of Sluys. How do you become that much better at sea anyways? I don't see much room for specialization in it. If there was they'd have to train regularly at sea. That means coming out of the forests to do so, comprising their secrecy. I can see how they'd be the best in the forests being adept at guerilla tactics and the forest being conducive for that. Especially Firania's forests, their hometurf. We'll look into it further if the Night Hunter's ever get put into action.

Prince's app is accepted. It should be noted that the Church is the established go to banking institution of Derria. There's also the Dellitan States to get loans from. Look at the Wallstryn military overview in the second post of this thread. Those are the major industries of the Crownlands. Maybe derive the family's wealth off of that?

[Shnercropolis]

Wait...
The peopel of the desert are "green men"? They were desert tribes not two generations ago and still live in a desert.

[Damak Var]

Its like how the people of the north in westeros consider themselves northerners but everybody north of the Wall profiles the northmen as just like any other southerner. Tjuko and his people live north of the border, so they're considered greenmen.

[Halleon]

I have a ideal it might seem stupid but would it be possible for the Church to establish colonies throughout the Kingdom? It would be more like communities that the Church is in charge of but they would tend to be serve a religious or some sort of function that would benefit the Church.

[Damak Var]

I have a ideal it might seem stupid but would it be possible for the Church to establish colonies throughout the Kingdom? It would be more like communities that the Church is in charge of but they would tend to be serve a religious or some sort of function that would benefit the Church.

Like communities centered around a monastery, or a monastery itself? What kinds of functions specifically? Im inclined to it.

[Halleon]

It would be like a community centered around a monastery but kinda be like a small village or maybe a town that would raise animals and/or crops to feed themselves and the extra stock of food or resource etc would be sent to Paragon City or distributed among the Temples etc. Kinda to relieve the demand to buy everything the Church needs to survive but could also could support feeding the poor.

Also working on a post and was wondering if the ideal of a Strong Hold Cathedral would be alright?

[Shnercropolis]

Its like how the people of the north in westeros consider themselves northerners but everybody north of the Wall profiles the northmen as just like any other southerner. Tjuko and his people live north of the border, so they're considered greenmen.

Ah.

[Damak Var]

It would be like a community centered around a monastery but kinda be like a small village or maybe a town that would raise animals and/or crops to feed themselves and the extra stock of food or resource etc would be sent to Paragon City or distributed among the Temples etc. Kinda to relieve the demand to buy everything the Church needs to survive but could also could support feeding the poor.

Also working on a post and was wondering if the ideal of a Strong Hold Cathedral would be alright?

Both are fine ideas. The degree of independence would be different with each secular ruler however. Though if the Church buys/owns the land for these communities then they are entitled to lord over it like a noble house would. The same stipulations would apply as if a minor noble house were ruling the land like paying taxes and ensuring the king's/lord's laws are followed to a reasonable level.

Granted it doesnt always happen that way like how Rupoy't has slaves but that could very likely bring about intervention from the king/lords.

[Halleon]

That works for me figured it would give me something to post about.

[Prince-Bishopric Of Liege]

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Thank you! I'd hoped to introduce myself trying to get a loan from Aurenstein to the Crown repayed, but I must have overlooked that the Church and the Estates are lending... My bad.

House Aurenstein

Exports: agricultural products, dairy products, livestock,
Imports: spices, luxury goods, silver, gold, gems, frankincense, silks, paper, glass
Terrain: Warmer, moderately cold winters, warm to hot summers. The land is fertile, with hills, meadows and farmlands. A few forests cover the Crownlands as well.
Size of Forces: 8000
Navy: None
Army:
-550 cavalry of varying quality, most of them are no opponents to the heave cavalry of other Houses (50 of these cavalrymen are personal guards).
50 military engineers and sappers.
-1,500Archers (longbowmen)
-1000 crossbowmen
-2750 Halberdiers & Pikemen
-1650 melee infantry (men at arms)
-500 Aurenstein personal guards (Household Guards)
Strengths:
-Aurenstein has a well-trained, well-disciplined and equipped infantry force.
-The House of Aurenstein is quite wealthy, due to their fertile lands in the Crownlands.
-Highclere Castle, the family's citadel above the city of Clere is a veritable fortress (The family, however prefers to reside at Highclere Hall, a newly built, pompous palace of sorts which is more aesthetically pleasing and more luxurious)

Weakness:
- House Aurenstein has no navy at all. They rent merchant ships for grain transport, but that's about it. Ofcourse, the Highclere holdings are landlocked, so the need of a navy is not so great.
- House Aurenstein does not have as much Heavy Cavalry as other Houses. This is a blow to their mobility and their charging capacity.
- Earl Loran is a cutious men and he will never, ever send his men in direct combat unless he is forced to. The Aurenstein men are also more suited to defend their own territory, rather than invading that of others.
- Apart from Highclere Castle and the city of Clere, the Aurenstein lands are virtually flat and lack natural defenses.

[Damak Var]

If you are going to sport an army of 8000, 850 as a contribution is not going to cut it. Jestrion wants 7000. Loran will have to comply or be branded an oath breaker. Keep in mind Jestrion can send the other half of his army (14000) and probably the Helyanwe forces (27000) to remove the Aurensteins from power.

[Prince-Bishopric Of Liege]

If you are going to sport an army of 8000, 850 as a contribution is not going to cut it. Jestrion wants 7000. Loran will have to comply or be branded an oath breaker. Keep in mind Jestrion can send the other half of his army (14000) and probably the Helyanwe forces (27000) to remove the Aurensteins from power.

Mmm. I thought one tenth from every House would be... adequate. Do you mind for RP purposes if I "stretch" time a bit?

[Damak Var]

No, we've been doing that all along to keep the RP moving while still fleshing out events and character development. I've been posting on events that occurred 170 to 300 years ago. If its too unreasonable I'll let you know.

EDIT: No, a tenth is definitely an insult. When the liege lord calls his banners that's serious. As a parallel to modern times that would be the equivalent of the US gearing up for WW2. Every bannerman needs to saddle up and bring their forces because its about to go down.

[Damak Var]

I also don't understand why if you named your house Aurenstein then your characters don't have that as a last name. Wouldn't it be House Gneiss or House Haber then?

[Prince-Bishopric Of Liege]

I also don't understand why if you named your house Aurenstein then your characters don't have that as a last name. Wouldn't it be House Gneiss or House Haber then?

Just a matter of taste... I fear. I've got a thing for long, fancy sounding surnames. I'm willing to change it, if that suits you better. Besides, in the next posts I'll probably focus upon the Häber-Gneiss rivalry in house Aurenstein.

[San Monteriano]

Actually, could I tweak my application to 15,000 men? I've a change of heart; the Bannorn is quite a large region and a reasonable population and I find 15,000 though be near enough to what my overall population estimate would be. I would make sure that 2,000 of them are levies, to be sure.

[Halleon]

Arrangements were made that all the Aurenstein foot, except for the personal guard, would depart to Ferndale the following morning. In one stroke, House Aurenstein became one of the biggest, unwilling, contributors to the Royal Army.

Not to criticize but I think some houses have contributed more men and supplies compared to what you have contributed. It doesn't bother me but you might want to avoid IC wise claiming to have sent more men then anyone else it could cause tension in the role play but just thought I would warn you. It would be interesting for some Trouble with the Crown and one of its direct Vessels to happen.

[Prince-Bishopric Of Liege]

Arrangements were made that all the Aurenstein foot, except for the personal guard, would depart to Ferndale the following morning. In one stroke, House Aurenstein became one of the biggest, unwilling, contributors to the Royal Army.

Not to criticize but I think some houses have contributed more men and supplies compared to what you have contributed. It doesn't bother me but you might want to avoid IC wise claiming to have sent more men then anyone else it could cause tension in the role play but just thought I would warn you. It would be interesting for some Trouble with the Crown and one of its direct Vessels to happen.

Oh, I do realize that. But I'm no great house either. Besides, the emphasis there lies on unwilling.

[Halleon]

I noticed but I seen you gave in rather quickly you could have dragged your feet longer but we both know the Crown called you on your bluff forcing you to act, willing or unwilling obviously the Crown doesn't doesn't care, it gets what it wants for now.

[Damak Var]

Actually, could I tweak my application to 15,000 men? I've a change of heart; the Bannorn is quite a large region and a reasonable population and I find 15,000 though be near enough to what my overall population estimate would be. I would make sure that 2,000 of them are levies, to be sure.

Thats fine.

Its not that farfetched of a thing for the crown to call the majority of house aurensteins forces into action. The royals are well within their rights to do so as direct liege lords.

[Prince-Bishopric Of Liege]

Actually, could I tweak my application to 15,000 men? I've a change of heart; the Bannorn is quite a large region and a reasonable population and I find 15,000 though be near enough to what my overall population estimate would be. I would make sure that 2,000 of them are levies, to be sure.

Thats fine.

Its not that farfetched of a thing for the crown to call the majority of house aurensteins forces into action. The royals are well within their rights to do so as direct liege lords.

I do realise that. And my house has complied, but surely you can see my house would rather spare the expense if possible...

[Damak Var]

"This is war, nobody is content."
-tywin lannister, from the show

Of course. Perhaps ill have the Aurenstein troops be first to scale the ladders at sturmwall.

[Prince-Bishopric Of Liege]

"This is war, nobody is content."
-tywin lannister, from the show

Of course. Perhaps ill have the Aurenstein troops be first to scale the ladders at sturmwall.

Oh... Is this the part where I start begging on my bare knees?

[The New Lowlands]

Liege, um...


Nobody's at Avantine.