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Postby Damak Var » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:49 pm

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Correct, more or less.

Except that it is the Thorns of Kursturm who declared independence after the scheme to kill the Prince, House Kazanowski was involved in the plot, although there is no proof, at least as of yet. And Balthazar of Kursturm is trying to recruit Kazanowski to join the revolution. As it stands now the Houses are either mobilizing their armies or trying to manouver themselves into the either the loyalist camp, the revolutionary camp or trying to keep out of the fighting and weighing the pros and cons of each option.

BTW, will we time skip forward a week or two in a couple of days maybe?


Oh right, I already time skipped a few days. Jestrion is about to march into Kursturm. The next big event will be a big field battle between Wallstryn and Thorn. Jestrion is going to route the Thorn forces.

Exactly what moment do you want to time skip to?

Also if you could stick to skirmishing instead of a full scale invasion that'd be great. That will allow the Thorns to concentrate their forces on Jestrion's. I'd think you'd want to do that anyways if the Kazanowskis are contemplating rebellion. They would not want to do too much damage to their allies.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:14 pm

still nobody to sign up as the Dreys?
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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:15 pm

Apologies, my mistake. :blush:


No problem :)

Exactly what moment do you want to time skip to?


To the final assembly of my forces and Mikhails arrival in Pavlograd, some 10-14 days after he met Balthazar in the temple.

Also if you could stick to skirmishing instead of a full scale invasion that'd be great. That will allow the Thorns to concentrate their forces on Jestrion's. I'd think you'd want to do that anyways if the Kazanowskis are contemplating rebellion. They would not want to do too much damage to their allies.


Sure, That goes without saying.

Plotek i medialnych bredni nie daj sobie wmówić,
Codziennie się rozwijaj i nie daj się ogłupić,
Atakowi propagandy stawiaj czoło dzielnie,
Nie daj sobą sterować i myśl samodzielnie.


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Postby Damak Var » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:10 pm

San, a good first post. There are some things that should be cleared up however.

First, Lord is the highest ranking nobility title after King. There are only 7 lords in Derria. Hector Delacroix, Mikhail Kazanowski, Cerdul Bathel, Balthazar Thorn, Philippa Velun (Lady, not officially the head of the house but pretty much so), Alandil Helyanwe and your character Eamon Clyfton. Even though all high ranking nobles are referred to as "m'lord" by lesser men.

After Lord there are Earls, Counts, and Barons. See the "nobility ranking system" in the first post of this thread for more info.

Also the Kazanowskis are still loyalists for now and there isn't much reason to suspect they'll be changing sides.

Finally where is Anders and what's he up to? Just wondering.
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Postby San Monteriano » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:42 am

House Clyfton
Exports: Agricultural produce (livestock, clothing materials, crops etc.), Red stone, iron, wood
Imports: Luxury goods, glass, weaponry, precious metals
Terrain: Fertile inland, though coast is mountainous; Morbridge is set in Westrock Mountains, an inland mountain range rich with iron
Size of Forces: 12,000
Navy: 50 ships: 27 galleys, 16 carracks, 7 cogs
Army: 2,000 heavy cavalry; 3,000 light cavalry, 6,000 infantry, 1,000 archers (8,000 of which are levies)
Strengths:
  • The Bannorn's abundance of natural resources, such as wood, stone and iron, contribute to their armies' strength, with great stores of spears, swords, bows and arrows, not to mention heavy siege equipment and ammunition, the latter of which mostly made of the resilient red stone. The Bannorn fleet is equipped with on-board scorpions, as well as iron-tipped rams for which are needed in ship-on-ship battle.
  • Elendir's Keep: situated in the heartland of the Bannorn, Elendir's Keep is a safe haven for an besieged region. Surrounded by it's wide and deep moat and high walls, Elendir's is a last resort defence of House Clyfton, with the capacity to fend off an invading army for a year or more, provided the harvest had been bountiful.
Weakness:
  • Whilst their armies are outfitted with decent equipment, House Clyfton is not a rich house and relatively poor and indebted to the Crown, House Wallstryn. It was the Wallstryns who provided the coin for the construction of Redcliffe Castle centuries ago, and ever since the Clyftons have owed them.
  • The Bannorn is relatively defenceless from northern attacks, with the main exception being the Valfort, though it is relatively undermanned. A sizable force could take the Valfort in a matter of weeks. If it were not for the Morbridge mountain range the Bannorn would be relatively easy to take, with the exception of Elendir's Keep and Redcliffe.

I hope this is acceptable. :D
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Tunasai wrote:Why would he make this up though?


Can I interest you in these magic beans I'm selling?


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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:56 pm

San Monteriano wrote:House Clyfton
Exports: Agricultural produce (livestock, clothing materials, crops etc.), Red stone, iron, wood
Imports: Luxury goods, glass, weaponry, precious metals
Terrain: Fertile inland, though coast is mountainous; Morbridge is set in Westrock Mountains, an inland mountain range rich with iron
Size of Forces: 12,000
Navy: 50 ships: 27 galleys, 16 carracks, 7 cogs
Army: 2,000 heavy cavalry; 3,000 light cavalry, 6,000 infantry, 1,000 archers (8,000 of which are levies)
Strengths:
  • The Bannorn's abundance of natural resources, such as wood, stone and iron, contribute to their armies' strength, with great stores of spears, swords, bows and arrows, not to mention heavy siege equipment and ammunition, the latter of which mostly made of the resilient red stone. The Bannorn fleet is equipped with on-board scorpions, as well as iron-tipped rams for which are needed in ship-on-ship battle.
  • Elendir's Keep: situated in the heartland of the Bannorn, Elendir's Keep is a safe haven for an besieged region. Surrounded by it's wide and deep moat and high walls, Elendir's is a last resort defence of House Clyfton, with the capacity to fend off an invading army for a year or more, provided the harvest had been bountiful.
Weakness:
  • Whilst their armies are outfitted with decent equipment, House Clyfton is not a rich house and relatively poor and indebted to the Crown, House Wallstryn. It was the Wallstryns who provided the coin for the construction of Redcliffe Castle centuries ago, and ever since the Clyftons have owed them.
  • The Bannorn is relatively defenceless from northern attacks, with the main exception being the Valfort, though it is relatively undermanned. A sizable force could take the Valfort in a matter of weeks. If it were not for the Morbridge mountain range the Bannorn would be relatively easy to take, with the exception of Elendir's Keep and Redcliffe.

I hope this is acceptable. :D


Usually the problem is peole giving themselves too much. This is good. Thats a sizable fleet. Combined with the Wallstryn fleet it may be enough to take on the Delacroix.

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Postby San Monteriano » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:00 pm

Damak Var wrote:
Usually the problem is peole giving themselves too much. This is good. Thats a sizable fleet. Combined with the Wallstryn fleet it may be enough to take on the Delacroix.


I tried to make it acceptable, I'm glad I didn't disappoint :p Perhaps we could discuss a combination of fleets, if you wished? ;)
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Tunasai wrote:Why would he make this up though?


Can I interest you in these magic beans I'm selling?


Ceannairceach wrote:If I were optimistic, I'd never be pleasantly surprised.


Wisconsin9 wrote:Every vegetarian and vegan in the world is sitting back and laughing cruelly at you right now. Or at least one is. Eh, close enough.


Tagmatium wrote:Yes - anything else is wishful thinking or wilful ignorance.

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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:06 pm

San Monteriano wrote:
Damak Var wrote:
Usually the problem is peole giving themselves too much. This is good. Thats a sizable fleet. Combined with the Wallstryn fleet it may be enough to take on the Delacroix.


I tried to make it acceptable, I'm glad I didn't disappoint :p Perhaps we could discuss a combination of fleets, if you wished? ;)


Did you look through the other military apps to compare yours?

Combining fleets will be hard. Mine is in the east, other side of derria. Plus ill have to give the clyftons a reason to get involved. Marriage or clearing their debt maybe? I need to secure the south and the burrowlands are a mess. If the clyftons are with me the burrowlands will have to fall in line, being surrounded by southern loyalists.

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Postby San Monteriano » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:15 pm

Damak Var wrote:
Did you look through the other military apps to compare yours?

Combining fleets will be hard. Mine is in the east, other side of derria. Plus ill have to give the clyftons a reason to get involved. Marriage or clearing their debt maybe? I need to secure the south and the burrowlands are a mess. If the clyftons are with me the burrowlands will have to fall in line, being surrounded by southern loyalists.


Clearing the debt would be a good move, and yeah, the Burrowlands would be an issue, but having the Clyftons on the royalists' side wouldn't hurt. I'm sure we could work something out, perhaps. And only more of a reason for you to ally with me, to pressure the Burrowlands into joining the war on your side. I have a modest, yet capable, army and sizable fleet, enough to threaten the north whilst the Wallstryns work in the east.
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Cosmopoles wrote:
Tunasai wrote:Why would he make this up though?


Can I interest you in these magic beans I'm selling?


Ceannairceach wrote:If I were optimistic, I'd never be pleasantly surprised.


Wisconsin9 wrote:Every vegetarian and vegan in the world is sitting back and laughing cruelly at you right now. Or at least one is. Eh, close enough.


Tagmatium wrote:Yes - anything else is wishful thinking or wilful ignorance.

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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:45 pm

Not yet, the loyalist faction is pretty strong already. That will change and the Wallstryns might just have to do some drastic things to find allies.

Also Schner. What the hell is going on in the Burrowlands and who is this Naga Kun? Why are there rebellions? Is Naga Kun operating under your orders? Does everybody know that?

If the royals find out you've been ordering your bannermen to put down loyalists bannermen they'll do something about it. And wouldn't those bannermen write to the Crown for assistance?
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Postby Halleon » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:48 pm

I'm thinking the Church will adopt a Neutral Stance but priest or clergymen will preach or talk about whatever side they support but I guess it will be seen as their personal opinion's and not that of the Church, that way I can rp as different priest's that supports different sides during the Civil War.
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Postby San Monteriano » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:49 pm

Damak Var wrote:Not yet, the loyalist faction is pretty strong already. That will change and the Wallstryns might just have to do some drastic things to find allies.


We shall wait, brooding. :evil:

In other matters, the City of the Paragon: what is there? I'm intending to have Anders go there and hopefully interact with the characters there, in effort to actually interact with other players rather than be a lone ranger in regards of the Clyftons. :p
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Cosmopoles wrote:
Tunasai wrote:Why would he make this up though?


Can I interest you in these magic beans I'm selling?


Ceannairceach wrote:If I were optimistic, I'd never be pleasantly surprised.


Wisconsin9 wrote:Every vegetarian and vegan in the world is sitting back and laughing cruelly at you right now. Or at least one is. Eh, close enough.


Tagmatium wrote:Yes - anything else is wishful thinking or wilful ignorance.

Without the EU, the UK is nothing but a backwater with delusions of grandeur and a history of empire.

"RENLY IS NOT RIGHT!" - Galbart Glover

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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:17 pm

It's a pristine Holy City governed directly by the Church. Center of the Paragon religion which is the dominant religion of Derria. The other being Spirit Worship. You should definitely RP Anders to do that, or something interesting like that.

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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:19 pm

Update. House Clyfton's information is now on the first two pages.

Their information has been updated on the House Roster, Character Roster, Capitals and Seats of Power, and both the House and military overview apps are up on the second post of the OOC.

Also the currency information is there as well.
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Postby Halleon » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:23 pm

Feel free to have him go to Paragon City it would give me the chance to have something to post about, right now a I guess you can call it a Religious Holiday/Celebration is taking place.
Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age. -James Joyce

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”-Abraham Lincoln
"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
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Postby San Monteriano » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:26 pm

Halleon wrote:Feel free to have him go to Paragon City it would give me the chance to have something to post about, right now a I guess you can call it a Religious Holiday/Celebration is taking place.


Seems like a good moment to go there then, visit the main cathedral or something :) I'll see you there!
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Cosmopoles wrote:
Tunasai wrote:Why would he make this up though?


Can I interest you in these magic beans I'm selling?


Ceannairceach wrote:If I were optimistic, I'd never be pleasantly surprised.


Wisconsin9 wrote:Every vegetarian and vegan in the world is sitting back and laughing cruelly at you right now. Or at least one is. Eh, close enough.


Tagmatium wrote:Yes - anything else is wishful thinking or wilful ignorance.

Without the EU, the UK is nothing but a backwater with delusions of grandeur and a history of empire.

"RENLY IS NOT RIGHT!" - Galbart Glover

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Postby Firstaria » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:27 pm

Ok, time to describe forces.
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Postby Halleon » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:29 pm

I need to offer a better description for the City so people have a better ideal of it but Damak pretty much described it pretty good.
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"Power is a curious thing...Three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man. Between them stands a common sellsword. Each great man bids the sellsword kill the other two. Who lives, who dies? Power resides where men believe it resides; it's a trick, a shadow on the wall, and a very small man can cast a very large shadow."
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Postby Firstaria » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:40 pm

Firania
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This war, Hector decided, would be short and swift for the Delacroix. He was not a fool, the weak point of Firania had always been heavy armored cavalry: with the many tick forests and the harsh terrains, cavalry could only move in roads in Firania, easy target to ambushes by his elite archers, the Night Hunters.
So, when the question was attacking the Thorn House land, many problem arised, as the temperatures, the climate, the military discipline, the unit composition...all spelled disaster for the Delacroix army. Except in one point.

The plan was extremely simple: Robert would guide a chosen small army or regulars and archers to participate the battles, while the real Delacroix attack would strike Sturmwall and the nearby coast. With their superior strength and their archers they would deny any maritime escape or reinforce through the Alesian Sea and Barter Bay. Then, a pinched maneuver of the Kazanowski and the Royals would conquer the Shoals in a swift military campaign, before the cold winter could come to help them.

Maybe even Velun would end up joining the fray? The more, the merrier! It was simply impossible for the Thorns to survive a 4-side attack without provisions and with the people encouraged to rebel from the King itself. Hector found the campaign even tedious, a delay to his plan in order to befriend Jestrion even more than he already was and then use him as a puppet once his trust in them would be absolute.

Actually...he would send a much bigger ground force. He needed to make an impression, in the end, so maybe this time numbers counted more than effectiveness.



I put this here as a placeholder, then I will post the action tomorrow.
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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:50 pm

I would think that the Delacroix can't take Sturmwall, not having the military capacity on land. Seems like it would have good defenses too. They'd have to wait until the Royals bring up their army to lay siege to it.

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Postby Shnercropolis » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:47 pm

What should be Cerdul's next move? Right now I have nothng to post.
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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:59 pm

What the hell is going on in the Burrowlands and who is this Naga Kun? Why are there rebellions? Is Naga Kun operating under your orders? Does everybody know that?

If the royals find out you've been ordering your bannermen to put down loyalists bannermen they'll do something about it. And wouldn't those bannermen write to the Crown for assistance?

I might ask the Helyanwe's and Clyftons to invade in order to put everything in order. Can't have discord in the South.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:28 pm

Damak Var wrote:What the hell is going on in the Burrowlands and who is this Naga Kun? Why are there rebellions? Is Naga Kun operating under your orders? Does everybody know that?

If the royals find out you've been ordering your bannermen to put down loyalists bannermen they'll do something about it. And wouldn't those bannermen write to the Crown for assistance?

I might ask the Helyanwe's and Clyftons to invade in order to put everything in order. Can't have discord in the South.

Naga Kun is a bannerman of house Bathel, and controls the entire cavalry of the Burrowlands.

Naga is putting down rebellions of minor Earls in the Three Valleys, because those lands were recently allocated to his rule and the lords there do not like him. He's also invaded the Drey lands because they disobeyed orders not to march. None of them are rebelling for the loyalist cause, mainly because that wouldn't be a rebellion but a very strong petition for Cerdul to join the loyalists.

Shall I make a second post and put that all down ICly?
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Postby Damak Var » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:59 pm

No need.

The Dreys are disobeying Cerdul to help the Royals and now their lands are being attacked. I don't think Jestrion is going to allow that for one of their loyalists. It's one thing to order your bannermen to sit tight, that would not necessarily invoke action. Though it's another thing to punish them for helping out the royals. That kind of shows Cerdul's true colors.

Once Jestrion finds out about this he'll send Cerdul a command to rein in Naga Kun. If Cerdul ignores it then Jestrion will order the Helyanwes and Clyftons to march in and put down Naga Kun and perhaps wage war on the Bathels themselves. Jestrion might give them a few thousand Wallstryn troops as well. That should give you plenty to post about once a full scale war comes to the Burrowlands.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:06 pm

Damak Var wrote:No need.

The Dreys are disobeying Cerdul to help the Royals and now their lands are being attacked. I don't think Jestrion is going to allow that for one of their loyalists. It's one thing to order your bannermen to sit tight, that would not necessarily invoke action. Though it's another thing to punish them for helping out the royals. That kind of shows Cerdul's true colors.

Once Jestrion finds out about this he'll send Cerdul a command to rein in Naga Kun. If Cerdul ignores it then Jestrion will order the Helyanwes and Clyftons to march in and put down Naga Kun. Jestrion might give them a few thousand Wallstryn troops as well. That should give you plenty to post about once a full scale war comes to the Burrowlands.

New post that pretty much resolves what's happening. I needed to post that anyway. Get a little inter-region action going.
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