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Postby Altito Asmoro » Sun May 12, 2013 2:08 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:Come on guys, don't bickering to each other.
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Sun May 12, 2013 2:15 am

Correction: DPC never had the capacity to produce them nor salvage them to begin with, as a result of events prior to 1939. Although, as the Dominion pointed out, I will accede to a bunch of useless, really tall, armored tractors.
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Postby Alleniana » Sun May 12, 2013 4:54 am

Great Houses of Xie wrote:Correction: DPC never had the capacity to produce them nor salvage them to begin with, as a result of events prior to 1939. Although, as the Dominion pointed out, I will accede to a bunch of useless, really tall, armored tractors.

And what gives you that information? Just becasue some people burnt some things down doesn't mean every industry in the entire country is wiped out, and it doesn't mean more can be bought or captured.

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Postby Delsola » Sun May 12, 2013 5:57 am

China had hardly any industry in 1939, and almost no tanks. The Japanese weren't quite as tank-heavy as their European counterparts, so there'd be less to steal. To backwards egineer a tank takes time, and the production cycle of a tank regiment is definately pushing a year. What territory does the DPC control? Because most industry is focused around the capital and East coast, and much of inland China is controlled by warlord cliques (Guangxi Clique etc.), so the amount of industry you have access to will be very low.

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Postby The Chartered Colonies of Old Dominion » Sun May 12, 2013 3:06 pm

China didn't really have the capacity to produce its own tanks, so even if the DRC reverse engineered captured vehicles, they would not be able to produce them in significant numbers. The National Revolutionary Army's tank forces were enough to equip a single armored division; however, this would not have been like the highly mobile divisions of Europa or the USSR. Instead, it was used as infantry suport. A mix of all the major interwar tanks were used: Renault FTs, Carden-Lloyds, Panzer Is, LV-33s, etc.

IRL the NRA's armored forces were bolstered by Soviet types, which, imo, gave the NRA a qualitative advantage over the Japanese. The BT-5, especially, was superior to Japanese types. Whether the NRA has access to these vehicles in this rp is up to our Soviet player. It is possible that Trotsky, unlike Stalin, would not have authorized their sale to an anti-communist force, although the KMT and CPC have a loose alliance at this time.

The KMT's tank advantage would be overwhelming against the DRC, but this doesn't mean that the DRC wouldn't have some captured vehicles. The NRA used captured Japanese tanks after all. During the the retreat from Wuhan, it is possible that a few tanks would have fallen into the hands of the DRC. Nonetheless, the Japanese would have taken the lion's share of NRA equipment.

Another crucial factor favoring the NRA is the lack of anti-tank guns among DRC troops. As I understand it, the DRC's artillery consists of US howitzers. I'm skeptical that these would have even reached the DRC, due to Japan's control of most Chinese ports.I suppose they could have been smuggled in through Hong Kong.
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Postby Great Houses of Xie » Tue May 14, 2013 6:26 am

Busy getting ready for a trip; then, I'll actually be on the trip, where internets will be limited.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue May 14, 2013 6:34 am

Alleniana wrote:Anyone still here?


Yup
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Postby Connori Pilgrims » Tue May 14, 2013 6:45 am

Alleniana wrote:Anyone still here?


Flying back to my home in a few hours. Have had intermittent access due to work.

Not that it matters. I needz South America to erupt into war for the US to do anything.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue May 14, 2013 6:50 am

Connori Pilgrims wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Anyone still here?


Flying back to my home in a few hours. Have had intermittent access due to work.

Not that it matters. I needz South America to erupt into war for the US to do anything.


Ask Gran Colombia. Brazil can't do anything.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 14, 2013 2:12 pm

Connori Pilgrims wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Anyone still here?


Flying back to my home in a few hours. Have had intermittent access due to work.

Not that it matters. I needz South America to erupt into war for the US to do anything.


I will handle that. AK's for everyone!
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Postby Alleniana » Wed May 15, 2013 3:27 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Connori Pilgrims wrote:
Flying back to my home in a few hours. Have had intermittent access due to work.

Not that it matters. I needz South America to erupt into war for the US to do anything.


I will handle that. AK's for everyone!

Even me?

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed May 15, 2013 4:36 am

Alleniana wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
I will handle that. AK's for everyone!

Even me?


EVERYONE!
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Postby Alleniana » Wed May 15, 2013 5:11 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Even me?


EVERYONE!

:lol:
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WAIT
That means for the KMT and Japanese as well...

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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Thu May 16, 2013 8:54 pm

So, since there was Nyasaland as the UK's colony, and available for play, Dutch East Indies is open too, right?
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu May 16, 2013 9:09 pm

The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:So, since there was Nyasaland as the UK's colony, and available for play, Dutch East Indies is open too, right?


No, at Old Dominion's suggestion all of the colonies were removed from the listing, since actual colonies (not including British Dominions) had no control over their foreign or domestic policy. We were more accommodating in the beginning to build the player base but it didn't work out, so it was dropped.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 12:33 am

Alleniana wrote:Why was Nyasaland included, but not any of the other colonies?


It was a past. A dark past. And a secret one. :p
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Postby Alleniana » Fri May 17, 2013 12:46 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Why was Nyasaland included, but not any of the other colonies?


It was a past. A dark past. And a secret one. :p

Um...
Okay then.

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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri May 17, 2013 12:57 am

Alleniana wrote:Why was Nyasaland included, but not any of the other colonies?


Colonies were listed only if people asked specifically for them. India was included for a while, and someone oddly asked for Nyasaland. But Nyasaland never posted and India posted only a few times before leaving.
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Postby Alleniana » Fri May 17, 2013 12:58 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Why was Nyasaland included, but not any of the other colonies?


Colonies were listed only if people asked specifically for them. India was included for a while, and someone oddly asked for Nyasaland. But Nyasaland never posted and India posted only a few times before leaving.

Ah, ok. India would be a decent colony to play as if they were available.

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 12:59 am

Alleniana wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
Colonies were listed only if people asked specifically for them. India was included for a while, and someone oddly asked for Nyasaland. But Nyasaland never posted and India posted only a few times before leaving.

Ah, ok. India would be a decent colony to play as if they were available.


If.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri May 17, 2013 1:02 am

Alleniana wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
Colonies were listed only if people asked specifically for them. India was included for a while, and someone oddly asked for Nyasaland. But Nyasaland never posted and India posted only a few times before leaving.

Ah, ok. India would be a decent colony to play as if they were available.


The problem is that there seems to be nothing anyone wants to do as a colony except rebel. Which is not only bothersome for the controlling empire, but in most cases it's just not historical. Not all colonies were happy but they didn't suddenly rise up in huge revolts all of a sudden. And yet that's what happened each and every time we let someone play as a colony or a dominion.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri May 17, 2013 1:06 am

Alleniana wrote:Will a single player controlling more than one nation ever be allowed?


I say Akasha had. Since he controlled EZ which is comprised of many nations.
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