1939! The World of Tomorrow! [PT/ALT-HIST/OOC/OPEN]

[Redemption-America]

*scratches chin*

Alright, I'll come in.

APPLICATION
NS Nation Name: Len Hyet
Desired 1939 RP Nation: Mexico
RP Sample:* viewtopic.php?f=31&t=236879
Why do you want to be this nation?:** Because Vive la Mexico?
In all seriousness because the idea of a border dispute with America interests me. That and the thought of a Mexico that wants to become more technologically advanced, with a sound Empire to surround bella Mexico, and defend her from the northern aggressors, with a possible alliance with certain someones who want the USA to trip and fall, and get a dagger shoved through its back while it lays in the mud.

How much were you planning to change actual history? Like we've said before, this isn't really an "anything goes" RP.

[Connori Pilgrims]

One more week, and I'll be eating Brazil like French Fries. Btw, did anybody say nukes?

Not yet anyway. In any case the only ones with even the most remote wherewithal for nukes are Europa and the United States, although France has also I think started investigating them.

*scratches chin*

Alright, I'll come in.

APPLICATION
NS Nation Name: Len Hyet
Desired 1939 RP Nation: Mexico
RP Sample:* viewtopic.php?f=31&t=236879
Why do you want to be this nation?:** Because Vive la Mexico?
In all seriousness because the idea of a border dispute with America interests me. That and the thought of a Mexico that wants to become more technologically advanced, with a sound Empire to surround bella Mexico, and defend her from the northern aggressors, with a possible alliance with certain someones who want the USA to trip and fall, and get a dagger shoved through its back while it lays in the mud.

1.) So... you're gonna go out of your way to antagonize your biggest trading partner over... Viva la Mexico? Mexico has always had nationalist undercurrents but economic suicide (barring the usual minority extremists) ain't a thing with them.

2.) Going out on a limb to assume you're hoping for either Gran Colombia or Europa Zentral to help Mexico. Good Fucking Luck. Gran Colombia doesn't have the means to protect Mexico - being more concerned with its immediate neighbors and only really able to project power that far at the moment. Europa also has bigger concerns closer to home. While not buddy-buddy with the US, they would rather not have to needlessly antagonize it especially with war on the horizon with France, USSR and possibly UK.

3.) If you're going to massively rewrite history to make Mexico hostile to the US for the past few decades - necessary for it to even make the slightest bit of sense - then congratulations, you've given the US the biggest reason to NOT be Isolationist. An enemy RIGHT AT THE FUCKING DOORSTEP is just what the US needs to shut up the isolationists and anti-military speakers.

On further thought maybe we should let you in just so I have an excuse to build up the US military much earlier than it would have otherwise.

[Alleniana]

One more week, and I'll be eating Brazil like French Fries. Btw, did anybody say nukes?

Not yet anyway. In any case the only ones with even the most remote wherewithal for nukes are Europa and the United States, although France has also I think started investigating them.

*scratches chin*

Alright, I'll come in.

APPLICATION
NS Nation Name: Len Hyet
Desired 1939 RP Nation: Mexico
RP Sample:* viewtopic.php?f=31&t=236879
Why do you want to be this nation?:** Because Vive la Mexico?
In all seriousness because the idea of a border dispute with America interests me. That and the thought of a Mexico that wants to become more technologically advanced, with a sound Empire to surround bella Mexico, and defend her from the northern aggressors, with a possible alliance with certain someones who want the USA to trip and fall, and get a dagger shoved through its back while it lays in the mud.

1.) So... you're gonna go out of your way to antagonize your biggest trading partner over... Viva la Mexico? Mexico has always had nationalist undercurrents but economic suicide (barring the usual minority extremists) ain't a thing with them.

2.) Going out on a limb to assume you're hoping for either Gran Colombia or Europa Zentral to help Mexico. Good Fucking Luck. Gran Colombia doesn't have the means to protect Mexico - being more concerned with its immediate neighbors and only really able to project power that far at the moment. Europa also has bigger concerns closer to home. While not buddy-buddy with the US, they would rather not have to needlessly antagonize it especially with war on the horizon with France, USSR and possibly UK.

3.) If you're going to massively rewrite history to make Mexico hostile to the US for the past few decades - necessary for it to even make the slightest bit of sense - then congratulations, you've given the US the biggest reason to NOT be Isolationist. An enemy RIGHT AT THE FUCKING DOORSTEP is just what the US needs to shut up the isolationists and anti-military speakers.

On further thought maybe we should let you in just so I have an excuse to build up the US military much earlier than it would have otherwise.

[Altito Asmoro]

One more week, and I'll be eating Brazil like French Fries. Btw, did anybody say nukes?

Not yet anyway. In any case the only ones with even the most remote wherewithal for nukes are Europa and the United States, although France has also I think started investigating them.

*scratches chin*

Alright, I'll come in.

APPLICATION
NS Nation Name: Len Hyet
Desired 1939 RP Nation: Mexico
RP Sample:* viewtopic.php?f=31&t=236879
Why do you want to be this nation?:** Because Vive la Mexico?
In all seriousness because the idea of a border dispute with America interests me. That and the thought of a Mexico that wants to become more technologically advanced, with a sound Empire to surround bella Mexico, and defend her from the northern aggressors, with a possible alliance with certain someones who want the USA to trip and fall, and get a dagger shoved through its back while it lays in the mud.

1.) So... you're gonna go out of your way to antagonize your biggest trading partner over... Viva la Mexico? Mexico has always had nationalist undercurrents but economic suicide (barring the usual minority extremists) ain't a thing with them.

2.) Going out on a limb to assume you're hoping for either Gran Colombia or Europa Zentral to help Mexico. Good Fucking Luck. Gran Colombia doesn't have the means to protect Mexico - being more concerned with its immediate neighbors and only really able to project power that far at the moment. Europa also has bigger concerns closer to home. While not buddy-buddy with the US, they would rather not have to needlessly antagonize it especially with war on the horizon with France, USSR and possibly UK.

3.) If you're going to massively rewrite history to make Mexico hostile to the US for the past few decades - necessary for it to even make the slightest bit of sense - then congratulations, you've given the US the biggest reason to NOT be Isolationist. An enemy RIGHT AT THE FUCKING DOORSTEP is just what the US needs to shut up the isolationists and anti-military speakers.

On further thought maybe we should let you in just so I have an excuse to build up the US military much earlier than it would have otherwise.

[Alleniana]

Not yet anyway. In any case the only ones with even the most remote wherewithal for nukes are Europa and the United States, although France has also I think started investigating them.



1.) So... you're gonna go out of your way to antagonize your biggest trading partner over... Viva la Mexico? Mexico has always had nationalist undercurrents but economic suicide (barring the usual minority extremists) ain't a thing with them.

2.) Going out on a limb to assume you're hoping for either Gran Colombia or Europa Zentral to help Mexico. Good Fucking Luck. Gran Colombia doesn't have the means to protect Mexico - being more concerned with its immediate neighbors and only really able to project power that far at the moment. Europa also has bigger concerns closer to home. While not buddy-buddy with the US, they would rather not have to needlessly antagonize it especially with war on the horizon with France, USSR and possibly UK.

3.) If you're going to massively rewrite history to make Mexico hostile to the US for the past few decades - necessary for it to even make the slightest bit of sense - then congratulations, you've given the US the biggest reason to NOT be Isolationist. An enemy RIGHT AT THE FUCKING DOORSTEP is just what the US needs to shut up the isolationists and anti-military speakers.

On further thought maybe we should let you in just so I have an excuse to build up the US military much earlier than it would have otherwise.

You stole what I did

[Altito Asmoro]

You stole what I did

[Alleniana]

You stole what I did

Don't worry

[Fuurturr]

Why is someone allowed to make up an entirely new faction (DRC) when I'm not even allowed to have an existing country with just the economy and government layout changed?

[The Akasha Colony]

Why is someone allowed to make up an entirely new faction (DRC) when I'm not even allowed to have an existing country with just the economy and government layout changed?

Because we figured we'd allow it on a trial basis and didn't really like how it turned out, so we aren't eager to repeat it.

[Altito Asmoro]

Why is someone allowed to make up an entirely new faction (DRC) when I'm not even allowed to have an existing country with just the economy and government layout changed?

Because we figured we'd allow it on a trial basis and didn't really like how it turned out, so we aren't eager to repeat it.

Didn't really like how it turned out?

[Alleniana]

Because we figured we'd allow it on a trial basis and didn't really like how it turned out, so we aren't eager to repeat it.

Didn't really like how it turned out?

Hmm...
Methinks that doesn't bode well

[The Chartered Colonies of Old Dominion]

It should be pointed out that the DRC's "tanks" will be essentially useless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Semple_tank

[Alleniana]

It should be pointed out that the DRC's "tanks" will be essentially useless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Semple_tank

Bob Semple tanks weren't useless, and besides, I looted some.

[Great Houses of Xie]

Once again, looted from who? TThe kmt, who took pains tto keep their ttanks in shape? The japanese, wwho would slaugter dpc on sight?

[Alleniana]

Once again, looted from who? TThe kmt, who took pains tto keep their ttanks in shape? The japanese, wwho would slaugter dpc on sight?

It's sort of hard to be in the middle of a war and have all the equipment stored safely in your armoury.

[Great Houses of Xie]

That's because the KMT tanks were busy running around being on the front lines. When they weren't destroyed by the Japanese, they were with a decidedly loyal KMT regiment. And, thus far, all the battlefields are behind Japanese lines, so not available to be looted by the DPC.

EDIT:: A KMT victory took place far from the DPC. Li Zongren captured the Japanese tanks and armored cars in that battle. This isn't Warhammer 40,000, where orkz can just loot anything lying around. DPC actually has to work to capture relatively intact vehicles in order to use them, like the KMT did. And the DPC hasn't done anything of the sort.

[Alleniana]

That's because the KMT tanks were busy running around being on the front lines. When they weren't destroyed by the Japanese, they were with a decidedly loyal KMT regiment. And, thus far, all the battlefields are behind Japanese lines, so not available to be looted by the DPC.

So, somehow, all the CPC, KMT and Japanese managed to keep each and every single tank safely manned, in a safe location, under their control, with no chance of the crew being killed, inside or outside, or it being lost, or stuck, or captured, or surrendered? Not to mention kept every single plan that has ever existed for a tank under their control despite possible backwards engineering?

[Great Houses of Xie]

Backwards engineering. How many times have we pointed out that the DPC is incredibly lacking in the technical expertise to do such a thing? On top of that, it had its industry largely destroyed, so there isn't much hope for attempting such a thing, even if they did have the expertise.

It's not a matter of can the others keep their tanks safe? It's a matter of has the DPC taken the opportunity to capture anything? The answer is a resounding, "No."

[Alleniana]

Backwards engineering. How many times have we pointed out that the DPC is incredibly lacking in the technical expertise to do such a thing? On top of that, it had its industry largely destroyed, so there isn't much hope for attempting such a thing, even if they did have the expertise.

It's not a matter of can the others keep their tanks safe? It's a matter of has the DPC taken the opportunity to capture anything? The answer is a resounding, "No."

Because establishing a territory the size of a few US states in the middle of a warzone with 20 million people in it doesn't give you the opportunity to capture anything.

[Great Houses of Xie]

Correction: one ruined province where the KMT torched what they couldn't take with them when they retreated in an orderly fashion. Much of Chongqing's industry was moved from Shanghai then Wuhan. The Japanese then expanded behind the KMT retreat with little resistance (because the KMT retreated).

About half that territory is controlled by the Japanese or the KMT (whose capitol and main army, of all things, is right there), so it's a helluva lot smaller and a lot less population than 20 million.

Furthermore, the DPC has been sitting tight and fortifying itself. Perhaps if it had bothered to attack either the KMT or the Japanese, maybe. Which, it didn't do, so it has nothing.

[Alleniana]

Correction: one ruined province where the KMT torched what they couldn't take with them when they retreated in an orderly fashion. Much of Chongqing's industry was moved from Shanghai then Wuhan. The Japanese then expanded behind the KMT retreat with little resistance (because the KMT retreated).

About half that territory is controlled by the Japanese or the KMT (whose capitol and main army, of all things, is right there), so it's a helluva lot smaller and a lot less population than 20 million.

Furthermore, the DPC has been sitting tight and fortifying itself. Perhaps if it had bothered to attack either the KMT or the Japanese, maybe. Which, it didn't do, so it has nothing.

So basically, because you are KMT, you decided my history since before you started playing for your nation?

[Altito Asmoro]

Come on guys, don't bickering to each other.

[Alleniana]

Come on guys, don't bickering to each other.

Hard not to

[Great Houses of Xie]

As you had the DPC suddenly form in 1939, everything that has already happened is still in effect. Thus, the DPC has to deal with the Battle of Wuhan and subsequent withdrawal then shenanigans that arose out of that.

[Alleniana]

As you had the DPC suddenly form in 1939, everything that has already happened is still in effect. Thus, the DPC has to deal with the Battle of Wuhan and subsequent withdrawal then shenanigans that arose out of that.

And why does that mean that suddenly, every damn tank in the land disappears along with the ability to manufacture them?