Those glorious days (AWRP) OOC, Semi-Closed

[Neros]

I gave independence to all of the british colonies, Labrador and New foundland were not colonies, they were british held administrative areas until after the second world war when britain gave them to canada. I went to suez becasue the egyptian government asked me to, im setting it up so there is a war going on there, the right wing rebels topple the regime, i send more forces and end up taking over and creating a new country that is allied to me, it is still egyptian, it will just be part of the british faction along with morocco and spain, with their own governments and militaries, that is why i am changing the nation name when that happens. Because it just wont be britain. So no i am not being imperialistic and i am not the same as the soviet Union, his country is leninist, mine is council communinist, read up on it. And go ahead and declare war. You will be declaring war on France, Britain, Spain, Morocco, Egypt and the Soviet Union with possibly Scandinavia.

So no i am not being imperialistic

Stop right there and re-read what you are doing to Suez, Egypt, and now Spain and Morocco and tell me you are not Imperialist. You are setting up puppet regimes that align themselves with the British Soviets and saying it isn't Imperialistic, just to say it isn't. Say that as much as you want in the IC, but OOCly, it's the same thing.

Don't think you have the strength of the Royal Navy either. Your little revolution must have stalled development on existing ships and allowed Germany to take the lead in her ship building, and with the addition of the Netherlands industrial hub, we most certainly have you in both military and economy. I can fight off you, Scandinavia, France, and the Soviet Union quite easily to be honest. Spain, Egypt, and Morocco wouldn't even touch me, and even if they did, I think Italy wanted to be the supreme Mediterranean Power so tough luck to them there. Soviets? Poland, Austria, and Serbia just got some war experience under their belt and I'm sure they could hold off whatever Lenin decides to throw at them.

Seriously, let's see your best shot when everything is not in your favor in the slightest. A cat a corner seems to fight for it's life much harder than normal. You guys started this war by invading Belgium, and it can be solved with your withdrawal.

Also, it isn't even OP. It's just how Germany is, and was, back in those days.

Also Bis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

[The Huskar Social Union]

Huskar: I must ask you who gave you permission to post that about Spain?I think we still have player for Spain?(i will TG him)

Geradin said he left it with me, i didnt see anyone else claim it, if some one did then ill edit it out, but people wanted to grab the colonies and divide up the spanish land through the IC Thread.

[Pribram]

Huskar: I must ask you who gave you permission to post that about Spain?I think we still have player for Spain?(i will TG him)

Geradin said he left it with me, i didnt see anyone else claim it, if some one did then ill edit it out, but people wanted to grab the colonies and divide up the spanish land through the IC Thread.

Ah, ok so he let you to control his nation by you i am right?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Huskar: I must ask you who gave you permission to post that about Spain?I think we still have player for Spain?(i will TG him)

No, Spain left and it's now in Civil War. I think Huskar is setting up a government there for whatever reason.

I was setting up the stage for the civil war, you know with a communist ogvernment taking power and then the anti communist forces fighting back, both sides asking for assistance. I plannedo n sending some troops to morocco and northwestern spain but not alot.

I gave independence to all of the british colonies, Labrador and New foundland were not colonies, they were british held administrative areas until after the second world war when britain gave them to canada. I went to suez becasue the egyptian government asked me to, im setting it up so there is a war going on there, the right wing rebels topple the regime, i send more forces and end up taking over and creating a new country that is allied to me, it is still egyptian, it will just be part of the british faction along with morocco and spain, with their own governments and militaries, that is why i am changing the nation name when that happens. Because it just wont be britain. So no i am not being imperialistic and i am not the same as the soviet Union, his country is leninist, mine is council communinist, read up on it. And go ahead and declare war. You will be declaring war on France, Britain, Spain, Morocco, Egypt and the Soviet Union with possibly Scandinavia.

So no i am not being imperialistic

Stop right there and re-read what you are doing to Suez, Egypt, and now Spain and Morocco and tell me you are not Imperialist. You are setting up puppet regimes that align themselves with the British Soviets and saying it isn't Imperialistic, just to say it isn't. Say that as much as you want in the IC, but OOCly, it's the same thing.

Don't think you have the strength of the Royal Navy either. Your little revolution must have stalled development on existing ships and allowed Germany to take the lead in her ship building, and with the addition of the Netherlands industrial hub, we most certainly have you in both military and economy. I can fight off you, Scandinavia, France, and the Soviet Union quite easily to be honest. Spain, Egypt, and Morocco wouldn't even touch me, and even if they did, I think Italy wanted to be the supreme Mediterranean Power so tough luck to them there. Soviets? Poland, Austria, and Serbia just got some war experience under their belt and I'm sure they could hold off whatever Lenin decides to throw at them.

Seriously, let's see your best shot when everything is not in your favor in the slightest. A cat a corner seems to fight for it's life much harder than normal. You guys started this war by invading Belgium, and it can be solved with your withdrawal.

Also, it isn't even OP. It's just how Germany is, and was, back in those days.

Ok, ill actually give you that, i am setting up a puppet in egypt, but the other two are joining as allies, i was planning on having morocco break off in the future, around 1917 and if someone wants to play a spain ill let them ahve it.Yeah my navy might have got stalled a bit, but its still powerful and can match the german navy like it did in history, british ships had advantage in better quality guns and designs, while germany had advantage in rangfinding and damage control, both sides ahd equal presence with numbers in most battles. I dont plan on sending troops into the front unless asked by france, im defending shipping routes to france and defending them from the belgian navy, ill do the same to yours if need be. and if things go bad yeah i might back off.

[Bismarx]

Geradin said he left it with me, i didnt see anyone else claim it, if some one did then ill edit it out, but people wanted to grab the colonies and divide up the spanish land through the IC Thread.

Ah, ok so he let you to control his nation by you i am right?

That seems a bit much. "Here, let me join, not play, and leave my nation for someone else".

[The Huskar Social Union]

Geradin said he left it with me, i didnt see anyone else claim it, if some one did then ill edit it out, but people wanted to grab the colonies and divide up the spanish land through the IC Thread.

Ah, ok so he let you to control his nation by you i am right?

Yeah in a way, im mainly just setting it up so people can fight over spain and its colonies.

[Kazarogkai]

Huskar: I must ask you who gave you permission to post that about Spain?I think we still have player for Spain?(i will TG him)

He dropped out just a few pages ago, said there were to many players to keep tabs on.

Sorry for the terrible map it is just meant to be a reference to Uni so she knows the real life borders and doesn't make any mistakes with my country's borders.

Slightly better map of my country

[Bismarx]

So no i am not being imperialistic

Stop right there and re-read what you are doing to Suez, Egypt, and now Spain and Morocco and tell me you are not Imperialist. You are setting up puppet regimes that align themselves with the British Soviets and saying it isn't Imperialistic, just to say it isn't. Say that as much as you want in the IC, but OOCly, it's the same thing.

Don't think you have the strength of the Royal Navy either. Your little revolution must have stalled development on existing ships and allowed Germany to take the lead in her ship building, and with the addition of the Netherlands industrial hub, we most certainly have you in both military and economy. I can fight off you, Scandinavia, France, and the Soviet Union quite easily to be honest. Spain, Egypt, and Morocco wouldn't even touch me, and even if they did, I think Italy wanted to be the supreme Mediterranean Power so tough luck to them there. Soviets? Poland, Austria, and Serbia just got some war experience under their belt and I'm sure they could hold off whatever Lenin decides to throw at them.

Seriously, let's see your best shot when everything is not in your favor in the slightest. A cat a corner seems to fight for it's life much harder than normal. You guys started this war by invading Belgium, and it can be solved with your withdrawal.

Also, it isn't even OP. It's just how Germany is, and was, back in those days.

Ok, ill actually give you that, that did contradict itself, my bad.Yeah my navy might have got stalled a bit, but its still powerful and can match the german navy like it did in history, british ships had advantage in better quality guns and designs, while germany had advantage in rangfinding and damage control, both sides ahd equal presence with numbers in most battles. I dont plan on sending troops into the front unless asked by france, im defending shipping routes to france and defending them from the belgian navy, ill do the same to yours if need be. and if things go bad yeah i might back off.

Alright, I just get very angry when Communists invade other areas and set up their own governments and defend to the death that it is not Imperialism. For further read; though I know you are not Leninist now and have a much better council communist,: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire ICly that's fine for them to say to distance themselves from the horrors of Imperialism, but when they still say it isn't OOCly makes my skin crawl.

As for the Navy debate, we can sit around and keep techwanking, numberwanking, and shipwanking until we both get so mad that we storm off, or just call it equal for the time being. Still #1 though, technologically speaking, Germans had better ships, British could just make far, far more of them. The reason being? Germany had to fight 2 land wars and help it's allies fight land wars, Britain got to focus on hunting U-boats and sending a few boys to the Somme, or just spam colonial troops. Since I have extra industrial bases from the entire Ruhr, I think I can produce more. That is, whether or not the Dreadnought Race occurred.

All in all, I don't have a beef with you, France, or the Soviets. France just invaded Belgium, which is too close for comfort and I generally dislike Communists, but I can say that your version is significantly better than that Stalinist Autocratic shithole.

[Neros]

Huskar: I must ask you who gave you permission to post that about Spain?I think we still have player for Spain?(i will TG him)

He dropped out just a few pages ago, said there were to many players to keep tabs on.

Sorry for the terrible map it is just meant to be a reference to Uni so she knows the real life borders and doesn't make any mistakes with my country's borders.

Slightly better map of my country

Be mad:

http://s7.postimage.org/8z5qhee09/Glorious_Days.png

This is Uni's updated map, btw Pribram. Has Italy, French Africa, and now this guy.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Ok, ill actually give you that, that did contradict itself, my bad.Yeah my navy might have got stalled a bit, but its still powerful and can match the german navy like it did in history, british ships had advantage in better quality guns and designs, while germany had advantage in rangfinding and damage control, both sides ahd equal presence with numbers in most battles. I dont plan on sending troops into the front unless asked by france, im defending shipping routes to france and defending them from the belgian navy, ill do the same to yours if need be. and if things go bad yeah i might back off.

Alright, I just get very angry when Communists invade other areas and set up their own governments and defend to the death that it is not Imperialism. For further read; though I know you are not Leninist now and have a much better council communist,: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire ICly that's fine for them to say to distance themselves from the horrors of Imperialism, but when they still say it isn't OOCly makes my skin crawl.

As for the Navy debate, we can sit around and keep techwanking, numberwanking, and shipwanking until we both get so mad that we storm off, or just call it equal for the time being. Still #1 though, technologically speaking, Germans had better ships, British could just make far, far more of them. The reason being? Germany had to fight 2 land wars and help it's allies fight land wars, Britain got to focus on hunting U-boats and sending a few boys to the Somme, or just spam colonial troops. Since I have extra industrial bases from the entire Ruhr, I think I can produce more. That is, whether or not the Dreadnought Race occurred.

All in all, I don't have a beef with you, France, or the Soviets. France just invaded Belgium, which is too close for comfort and I generally dislike Communists, but I can say that your version is significantly better than that Stalinist Autocratic shithole.

*Looks at complements on council communism against leninism and stalinism* Thank you *raise glass to you*

Well Britain became communist after the British empire declared war on the bolsheviks in 1910. the revolution happened in 1911, i would say the Dreadnought race continued as planned since europe was largly the same before 1910 and yeah you could produce more but like i said, british guns and some of the designs,(i.e the dreadnoughts and battle cruisers which have not been built yet but i was planning on building some around 1913) and the crews were better, but the germans could act faster on damage to their ships and had better rangefinding so could usually spot british ships faster as well.

Also, who is italy and former french africa again?

[The Huskar Social Union]

I was thinking this would be the situation is spain if we are going with the civil war.

Map

Light red: New communist government and allies.
Tanish colour: Nationalist forces.
Crimson: Moroccan Forces.

Is the chinese player still active?

[Neros]

I was thinking this would be the situation is spain if we are going with the civil war.

Map

Light red: New communist government and allies.
Tanish colour: Nationalist forces.
Crimson: Moroccan Forces.

Is the chinese player still active?

Signs point to no. I haven't even seen his application, nor his IC posts.

I'm waiting for the Byzantines to kick the bucket. They'd be a good ally, if they'd post more.

[Bismarx]

Alright, I just get very angry when Communists invade other areas and set up their own governments and defend to the death that it is not Imperialism. For further read; though I know you are not Leninist now and have a much better council communist,: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Empire ICly that's fine for them to say to distance themselves from the horrors of Imperialism, but when they still say it isn't OOCly makes my skin crawl.

As for the Navy debate, we can sit around and keep techwanking, numberwanking, and shipwanking until we both get so mad that we storm off, or just call it equal for the time being. Still #1 though, technologically speaking, Germans had better ships, British could just make far, far more of them. The reason being? Germany had to fight 2 land wars and help it's allies fight land wars, Britain got to focus on hunting U-boats and sending a few boys to the Somme, or just spam colonial troops. Since I have extra industrial bases from the entire Ruhr, I think I can produce more. That is, whether or not the Dreadnought Race occurred.

All in all, I don't have a beef with you, France, or the Soviets. France just invaded Belgium, which is too close for comfort and I generally dislike Communists, but I can say that your version is significantly better than that Stalinist Autocratic shithole.

*Looks at complements on council communism against leninism and stalinism* Thank you *raise glass to you*

Well Britain became communist after the British empire declared war on the bolsheviks in 1910. the revolution happened in 1911, i would say the Dreadnought race continued as planned since europe was largly the same before 1910 and yeah you could produce more but like i said, british guns and some of the designs,(i.e the dreadnoughts and battle cruisers which have not been built yet but i was planning on building some around 1913) and the crews were better, but the germans could act faster on damage to their ships and had better rangefinding so could usually spot british ships faster as well.

Also, who is italy and former french africa again?

Danke. You must know your enemy before you engage him, ja? I understand the different strains and runnings of Communism, some are god-awful (Stalinist, Maoist, Hoxhaism) while some are more respectable (Titoism, World Communist theory, Workers' Councils, Trotskyism). Leninism in itself was not bad perse, just the spin-offs that Stalin and his cronies made.

In general, I dislike Communism because the damn Communists never unite behind Marx's true teachings, they always have their own view or interpret it as this, or that. Marx warned us about states with Communism and we didn't listen.

On the Navy, I see your point. Different aspects, different navies, different weaknesses, different strengths. I think the battle of Jutland might be a little more lopsided now, with more German ships with longer view ranges. Then again, the battle itself was a stalemate and indecisive.

Italy - Costa [insert name]
French Africa - No clue

[Unicario]

Since the Belgian war broke out in February 1912, Japan's Empress was in Belgium at the time, since after Iceland, she was going to Belgium to spend time with Albert (whom she's begun seeing), before traveling to Berlin to meet with the Kaiser of Germany, before returning home, but due to the war, she's trapped in Europe.

Oy.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Since the Belgian war broke out in February 1912, Japan's Empress was in Belgium at the time, since after Iceland, she was going to Belgium to spend time with Albert (whom she's begun seeing), before traveling to Berlin to meet with the Kaiser of Germany, before returning home, but due to the war, she's trapped in Europe.

Oy.

If you back out of the war ill give her safe transit to Japn escorted by warships till the horn of africa then allow your forces to escort her the rest of the way.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Actually, i dont think britain is ready for war at the moment, i might try and resolve the situation thorugh diplomacy, maybe try and get belgium and france to agree to a truce and belgium handing over some french land and in return ill give them some stuff.

[Unicario]

Since the Belgian war broke out in February 1912, Japan's Empress was in Belgium at the time, since after Iceland, she was going to Belgium to spend time with Albert (whom she's begun seeing), before traveling to Berlin to meet with the Kaiser of Germany, before returning home, but due to the war, she's trapped in Europe.

Oy.

If you back out of the war ill give her safe transit to Japn escorted by warships till the horn of africa then allow your forces to escort her the rest of the way.

Japan won't abandon Belgium in it's time of need.

[The Huskar Social Union]

If you back out of the war ill give her safe transit to Japn escorted by warships till the horn of africa then allow your forces to escort her the rest of the way.

Japan won't abandon Belgium in it's time of need.

Well maybe we can come to an agreement on Hongkong. You allow all civilians to flee to mainland britain and china and not target civillian, merchant and non British ships the right to leave and i will let her go home on a civilian ships esocrted by a few ships to africa then you can take her.

[Bismarx]

If you back out of the war ill give her safe transit to Japn escorted by warships till the horn of africa then allow your forces to escort her the rest of the way.

Japan won't abandon Belgium in it's time of need.

Funny how Germany entered war for Belgium, just as the UK did in real-life.

Actually, i dont think britain is ready for war at the moment, i might try and resolve the situation thorugh diplomacy, maybe try and get belgium and france to agree to a truce and belgium handing over some french land and in return ill give them some stuff.

Belgium shouldn't lose a mile due to French aggression. They invaded, Belgium has the right to reparations if he asks for it.

[Unicario]

Japan won't abandon Belgium in it's time of need.

Well maybe we can come to an agreement on Hongkong. You allow all civilians to flee to mainland britain and china and not target civillian, merchant and non British ships the right to leave and i will let her go home on a civilian ships esocrted by a few ships to africa then you can take her.

Maybe, I'm still firmly in support for Belgium though, so there needs to be a peace agreement with Belgium.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Japan won't abandon Belgium in it's time of need.

Funny how Germany entered war for Belgium, just as the UK did in real-life.

Actually, i dont think britain is ready for war at the moment, i might try and resolve the situation thorugh diplomacy, maybe try and get belgium and france to agree to a truce and belgium handing over some french land and in return ill give them some stuff.

Belgium shouldn't lose a mile due to French aggression. They invaded, Belgium has the right to reparations if he asks for it.

But belgium took them from france in the past, with their aggresion, france has every right to take them back.

[Unicario]

Funny how Germany entered war for Belgium, just as the UK did in real-life.



Belgium shouldn't lose a mile due to French aggression. They invaded, Belgium has the right to reparations if he asks for it.

But belgium took them from france in the past, with their aggresion, france has every right to take them back.

But France is still waging an aggressive war, and Belgium hasn't lost any land to France yet, so it's technically a status quo antebellum.

[The Huskar Social Union]

But belgium took them from france in the past, with their aggresion, france has every right to take them back.

But France is still waging an aggressive war, and Belgium hasn't lost any land to France yet, so it's technically a status quo antebellum.

Good point.

[Bismarx]

But France is still waging an aggressive war, and Belgium hasn't lost any land to France yet, so it's technically a status quo antebellum.

Good point.

Better wrangle your Soviet ally before he causes the German declaration of war. He seems to think fighting against Japan and Germany+Allies is a fantastic idea.

...And seriously. The Russian Baltic Fleet against the German High Seas Fleet? I don't think the Russians are well-known for their Naval prowess. I think I'll let Poland deal with both them and Scandinavia. Hell, I'll just bombard Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm, Helsinki, then Leningrad while the Poles, Yugoslavs, Austrians, and the like hold the Red Army and chop up their numbers in a Central European Meat Grinder.

Damn it feels good it be gangster.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Good point.

Better wrangle your Soviet ally before he causes the German declaration of war. He seems to think fighting against Japan and Germany+Allies is a fantastic idea.

...And seriously. The Russian Baltic Fleet against the German High Seas Fleet? I don't think the Russians are well-known for their Naval prowess. I think I'll let Poland deal with both them and Scandinavia. Hell, I'll just bombard Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm, Helsinki, then Leningrad while the Poles, Yugoslavs, Austrians, and the like hold the Red Army and chop up their numbers in a Central European Meat Grinder.

Damn it feels good it be gangster.

The soviets are the stronger one of this alliance between france britain and russia, they are basically the head of the international communist alliance. Their navy might not be that good, but the soviet army after the revolution and civil war was one of the best in the world under trotsky and could give a good fight. But it is up to them and france really.