AWRP: Building a better Roleplay (Interest check)

[Atlannia]

well no. I was away from a computer for the last 28 pages. The last time I saw the page people were just throwing around ideas. Then I got on again roughly 24 hours later and there's a finalized map and everything, I dunno. I have this weird feeling like the Australia guy isn't going to post again so I probably have some room to work with, I appreciate East Timor by the way, all of a sudden my lonely little corner got pretty full.

[Neros]

well no. I was away from a computer for the last 28 pages. The last time I saw the page people were just throwing around ideas. Then I got on again roughly 24 hours later and there's a finalized map and everything, I dunno. I have this weird feeling like the Australia guy isn't going to post again so I probably have some room to work with, I appreciate East Timor by the way, all of a sudden my lonely little corner got pretty full.

Yeah, the main reason I was upset because I literally went to bed and came back to my nation being totally off the map. Even my color was given away. I had taken Red and it somehow wound up in Russian hands.

It should be noted that in my map, I always had you in there. No one used my map though, even if I was kind enough to donate my time to create it when they were begging for one.

Anyways, Thai Empire history:

The nation started off as the Ayutthaya Kingdom in the 1300s. A successive line of competent rulers and military conquests brought the nation to new heights, expanding its power and its borders to surpass that of the Khmer Empire centuries before. Cultural diffusion began to occur between the Thai State and the Ming (as they fled Manchu Conquest and before as well) that lead to an explosion of sciences and medicine, as well as an interest in the history of the Thai State. Following discoveries of the past Khmer Empire and it’s great public projects, the Thai State began to follow suit and construct numerous canal projects, build cities, outposts, trading networks, everything in an effort to illuminate the old Khmer Empire’s greatness.

With this, the nation had a strong base to build off of when the Industrial Revolution began to kick in. By this time, the borders of the nation stretched up to Southern China, Bangladesh and the Himalayas, all the way down to Java and Bali in the south. The first major industrial projects began around 1860 and rapidly spread through-out the nation, creating a large monetary base and a more centralized state. The Military began to adopt Western designs in order to protect its own interests from foreign aggression, building a large and competent Naval Force to defend its Maritimes. Its Naval Power was mainly for home defense rather than aggression abroad.

The Thai Empire dates its founding to 770 AD with the founding of the Khmer Empire, which the nation believes it be its direct ancestor, but a more probably founding for the Thai Empire in its current form is about 1350 AD. Trade was always a major factor in the nation, and a systematic belief of self-reliance has caused the nation to be strong in all aspects of economy so that it does not have to rely on imported goods, and if it does, then not for long. Relations are fairly moderate with the Sinobritons, the Thai Empire had no objections when they took southern Malaya while fleeing from Europe. While the Thai Empire consulated it’s conquests, the Sinbritons took over the remaining Ming Empire as well as a large share of South China Sea islands, so they became a very good trade partner to conduct business. However, with the recent completion of the All-Thai Canal, shipping routes do not have to brave the Straits of Malacca to find Chinese and Sinobriton port, causing a rather cooling of relations.

[Atlannia]

so you did, I appreciate the sentiment. I guess it's not really anyone's fault the thread is moving at a rediculous pace

[Neros]

so you did, I appreciate the sentiment. I guess it's not really anyone's fault the thread is moving at a rediculous pace

Yeah, but it's really bad when there is an established map for a while and it just gets flushed and everyones' claim on it is gone. The fact that I'm also almost certain that the majority of the posts made by the people have been here since me and you suggests that they just did not care when the new map came out.

[Mishmahig]

so you did, I appreciate the sentiment. I guess it's not really anyone's fault the thread is moving at a rediculous pace

Yeah, but it's really bad when there is an established map for a while and it just gets flushed and everyones' claim on it is gone. The fact that I'm also almost certain that the majority of the posts made by the people have been here since me and you suggests that they just did not care when the new map came out.

Wait, not care about what?

[Parhe]

I never did beg for a map...

Anyway I may look odd being vassalage to a China seeing as my Korea is so big...

Also to be fair Nero your nation was never goid on Garwall.

[Neros]

Yeah, but it's really bad when there is an established map for a while and it just gets flushed and everyones' claim on it is gone. The fact that I'm also almost certain that the majority of the posts made by the people have been here since me and you suggests that they just did not care when the new map came out.

Wait, not care about what?

Land Claims. This guys' claim on half of Indonesia got left out of the map, his Australian land got taken over by some brown nation (hahaha, racial implications) and his Pacific and New Zealand claims got booted out by Neo's Argie nation, despite the fact that his claim was there first.

That, and I'm 90% sure my nation was totally erased because someone claimed Casadia and Garwall gave him the Tundra and Great Plains, and if not, then Garwall took the Industrial part of America and left me with the scraps, simply because he could do so. Terrible. So now I'm settling for a Thai Empire because that's all I really can do at this point.

[Saragrossa]

I really want to talk to whoever owns the black empire so Ican find out what happened with Portugal

In this World, Black is represented by the Republic of Hispania, since its a rump state of the Fallen Roman Empire much like Byzantium

[Parhe]

I like how you consider California and Texas scraps. Also remember this is alterbate gistory you could make the south a major industrialized area.

[Mishmahig]

Wait, not care about what?

Land Claims. This guys' claim on half of Indonesia got left out of the map, his Australian land got taken over by some brown nation (hahaha, racial implications) and his Pacific and New Zealand claims got booted out by Neo's Argie nation, despite the fact that his claim was there first.

That, and I'm 90% sure my nation was totally erased because someone claimed Casadia and Garwall gave him the Tundra and Great Plains, and if not, then Garwall took the Industrial part of America and left me with the scraps, simply because he could do so. Terrible. So now I'm settling for a Thai Empire because that's all I really can do at this point.

Well, nothing's set yet---this is a rough idea, but things can still change pretty extensively. Why not go for a southern states/Midwest America, rather than Canada, which is mostly tundra? I'm sure Garwall will be open to suggestions. In this AWRP, the South can also be a major industrial power, especially if it's a separate nation, relying on the midwest for agriculture, instead of producing cash crops like it did in IRL. Just a suggestion, though----entirely up to you.

As for India, I'm expanding my claims to meet the Afghan Emirate, because then NF and I have a shared border that makes sense with our backstory. Still leaves over half of India for any expansion you may want to do.


As for the other guy-----I'm sorry your claims got lost---this is a really fast moving thread, so sometimes things get overlooked. :/ Bring it up with the Australian guy/Neo Arcad/Garwall when they get online, and I'm sure they'll be reasonable/helpful.

Also, just as a re-emphasis: Nothing is set in stone yet. Yes, it's getting finalized, and yes, it's starting to lock into place, but that doesn't mean there's not wiggle room. Don't let this turn into a "first-come, first-served" land grab of a RP. Discuss! Talk it over! Plan it out the competing claims, and offer compromises!

[Atelia]

http://s15.postimage.org/uldecu6ln/map.png

alah my updated map of the Mexican empire ( i am the grey ).

[Neros]

Land Claims. This guys' claim on half of Indonesia got left out of the map, his Australian land got taken over by some brown nation (hahaha, racial implications) and his Pacific and New Zealand claims got booted out by Neo's Argie nation, despite the fact that his claim was there first.

That, and I'm 90% sure my nation was totally erased because someone claimed Casadia and Garwall gave him the Tundra and Great Plains, and if not, then Garwall took the Industrial part of America and left me with the scraps, simply because he could do so. Terrible. So now I'm settling for a Thai Empire because that's all I really can do at this point.

Well, nothing's set yet---this is a rough idea, but things can still change pretty extensively. Why not go for a southern states/Midwest America, rather than Canada, which is mostly tundra? I'm sure Garwall will be open to suggestions. In this AWRP, the South can also be a major industrial power, especially if it's a separate nation, relying on the midwest for agriculture, instead of producing cash crops like it did in IRL. Just a suggestion, though----entirely up to you.

As for India, I'm expanding my claims to meet the Afghan Emirate, because then NF and I have a shared border that makes sense with our backstory. Still leaves over half of India for any expansion you may want to do.


As for the other guy-----I'm sorry your claims got lost---this is a really fast moving thread, so sometimes things get overlooked. :/ Bring it up with the Australian guy/Neo Arcad/Garwall when they get online, and I'm sure they'll be reasonable/helpful.

Also, just as a re-emphasis: Nothing is set in stone yet. Yes, it's getting finalized, and yes, it's starting to lock into place, but that doesn't mean there's not wiggle room. Don't let this turn into a "first-come, first-served" land grab of a RP. Discuss! Talk it over! Plan it out the competing claims, and offer compromises!

No. I'm not going to deal with any of that at all. Things are set in stone only if Garwall wants them to be, so fuck that. I'll be some raggy-ass Thai Empire and bitch and moan about everything because that is really terrible.

That guy was here first. His claims should be legitimate and super-cede the others.

Looks like our Mexican friend was a different person. Garwall did try and make me the Purple nation. Wow. Just, wow.

[Parhe]

http://s15.postimage.org/uldecu6ln/map.png

alah my updated map of the Mexican empire ( i am the grey ).

Can you do ne a favor and take all of Texas. I hate seeing Texas divided.

[Atelia]

http://s15.postimage.org/uldecu6ln/map.png

alah my updated map of the Mexican empire ( i am the grey ).

Can you do ne a favor and take all of Texas. I hate seeing Texas divided.

ok give me a sec.

[Atelia]

http://s16.postimage.org/mrlzifsut/map.png

update for parhe.

[Benutanairan]

I guess i'll tg my claims to Caen

Im thinking the countries official name should be " The Benuluxian Union of Orange-Transvaal"

[Ceannairceach]

No. I'm not going to deal with any of that at all. Things are set in stone only if Garwall wants them to be, so fuck that. I'll be some raggy-ass Thai Empire and bitch and moan about everything because that is really terrible.

That guy was here first. His claims should be legitimate and super-cede the others.

Looks like our Mexican friend was a different person. Garwall did try and make me the Purple nation. Wow. Just, wow.

The reason your claim wasn't processed is because when I was making the compiled map of claims, I specifically asked for people to TG me their claims so I could post them on the map. The confusion as the the freedom of North America was due to my own confusion concerning the status of your North American claims; I didn't know what was going on, and without word from Garwall or yourself confirming it, I didn't post it. So if you want to be childish and this and throw a hissy fit instead of working with the cards that have been dealt, throw it at me.

[Danbershan]

No. I'm not going to deal with any of that at all. Things are set in stone only if Garwall wants them to be, so fuck that. I'll be some raggy-ass Thai Empire and bitch and moan about everything because that is really terrible.

That guy was here first. His claims should be legitimate and super-cede the others.

Looks like our Mexican friend was a different person. Garwall did try and make me the Purple nation. Wow. Just, wow.

The reason your claim wasn't processed is because when I was making the compiled map of claims, I specifically asked for people to TG me their claims so I could post them on the map. The confusion as the the freedom of North America was due to my own confusion concerning the status of your North American claims; I didn't know what was going on, and without word from Garwall or yourself confirming it, I didn't post it. So if you want to be childish and this and throw a hissy fit instead of working with the cards that have been dealt, throw it at me.

Agreed, I'm backing you Ceann.

[Saragrossa]

The reason your claim wasn't processed is because when I was making the compiled map of claims, I specifically asked for people to TG me their claims so I could post them on the map. The confusion as the the freedom of North America was due to my own confusion concerning the status of your North American claims; I didn't know what was going on, and without word from Garwall or yourself confirming it, I didn't post it. So if you want to be childish and this and throw a hissy fit instead of working with the cards that have been dealt, throw it at me.

Agreed, I'm backing you Ceann.

If Someone wants to be a little bitch and complain this early then tough luck and good riddens, if he tries over not getting his preferred location then imagine him IC. Anyway this isn't even the actual formal OOC post so everything can and will probably change with the inevitable fact that people always drop out.

[Constaniana]

Just who did claim Australia? I remember saying I would use Canada or Australia for my Nova Britannia idea back when I made my first post, but I never remember seeing if anyone took Australia..

[Neros]

No. I'm not going to deal with any of that at all. Things are set in stone only if Garwall wants them to be, so fuck that. I'll be some raggy-ass Thai Empire and bitch and moan about everything because that is really terrible.

That guy was here first. His claims should be legitimate and super-cede the others.

Looks like our Mexican friend was a different person. Garwall did try and make me the Purple nation. Wow. Just, wow.

The reason your claim wasn't processed is because when I was making the compiled map of claims, I specifically asked for people to TG me their claims so I could post them on the map. The confusion as the the freedom of North America was due to my own confusion concerning the status of your North American claims; I didn't know what was going on, and without word from Garwall or yourself confirming it, I didn't post it. So if you want to be childish and this and throw a hissy fit instead of working with the cards that have been dealt, throw it at me.

*throws the cards*

I refuse to work with it at all. I dropped my claim and that is the end of it. I had my claims down in North America and got booted out. So if it's your fault, then good job. There is a gap of my last post and right now of nearly 15 pages, I never knew of any TG Claims and was in the process of making the map as is, posting it as each nation got on there and such. I woke up and saw that my nation was totally missing, that piece of purple shit is an outrage and disgusting to look at. There is nothing of value there. Oh, the Great Plains? What a nice agrarian society that can't do shit. The Arctic Tundra won't produce oil for years to come, and any sort of Alternate History meddling won't give me a sizable population.

In all honesty, this event is a real let down. I threw a hissy fit for what, two posts? Then guess what - I moved on to the Thai place because I knew nothing would ever change it. Nothing I could do, say, or attempt would change the fact that I was given the rawest part of America. There's no more discussion unless you want to continue this.

[Ceannairceach]

Just who did claim Australia? I remember saying I would use Canada or Australia for my Nova Britannia idea back when I made my first post, but I never remember seeing if anyone took Australia..

Someone asked for it. *Shrug* Bromeliadia was his name, I believe.

[Neros]

Agreed, I'm backing you Ceann.

If Someone wants to be a little bitch and complain this early then tough luck and good riddens, if he tries over not getting his preferred location then imagine him IC. Anyway this isn't even the actual formal OOC post so everything can and will probably change with the inevitable fact that people always drop out.

Yes, because I was not here from the beginning, even before this thread. I'm flaming now, I'm going to stop.

[Constaniana]

Just who did claim Australia? I remember saying I would use Canada or Australia for my Nova Britannia idea back when I made my first post, but I never remember seeing if anyone took Australia..

Someone asked for it. *Shrug* Bromeliadia was his name, I believe.

That's odd, I searched "australia" within the topic but i couldnt fine Bromelidia's claim

[Atlannia]

Someone asked for it. *Shrug* Bromeliadia was his name, I believe.

That's odd, I searched "australia" within the topic but i couldnt fine Bromelidia's claim

I claimed the East coast and a bunch of Australasian islands plus some of...here
http://s1159.photobucket.com/albums/p639/COprean/?action=view&current=claim.png
this basically. Then I went to sleep. And then some guy went, is Australia taken? And people went nope don't think so, so he took Australia and I guess he TG'd Ceannairceach because he ended up on the map and not me.