The History of the World(OOC,Sign Ups, OPEN)

[Horusland]

Someone posts an app.
Sassinia says nothing, but keeps posting about other stuff.
The people repost their apps, and Sassinia ignores them again and again.
Sassinia then goes offline.

If we, the players, could vote on whether an app should be accepted or something, it would be awesome.
See, the most recent app has absolutely NO PROBLEM! It is perfect, read the OP, should be accepted. But NO, Sassinia has to wait for many pages until he responds to it. That's what always happens.


And they all ended before this time. It's 550BC, so it's Antiquity now.....

wait no its not antiquity that is the middle ages which happened around 500 AD we are in BC so meaning this is still basically the iron age.

Antiquity started at the beginning of recorded information, and when we have the first record of a country existing. Or a city-state. We were thought that Antiquity, by that logic, starts in ~3200BC, when Narmer united Lower and Upper Egypt into one kingdom under his rule.

[Horusland]

Uraeli, why did you RP in Korea, when Korea belongs to the Chinese?

[Krugmar]

((If you take the Alps and Southern Germany, then that means that you are attacking us. Until you accept the Safe Passage Treaty, you cannot enter our territory, peacefully or not. And please do not say that you allow us to get Iberia. Do we need your confirmation to attack Iberia? NO! Please stop trying to control us. It is getting out of control, and as much as I feel like conquering Italy right now, I want you as an ally. So stop trying to control us, or we will do the same to you. So do you accept the Safe Passage Treaty? It still does not allow you to steal from us, like you are trying to do now, but it lets your armies go through our territory.))




To Calaria

We are sorry, but Germany, Switzerland, the Benelux, Austria all belong to us. You never conquered them. They were never rightfully yours. As for claims in Africa, Asia, and East Europe, what claims? You never made any claims on any land outside Italy. I think you are forgetting the primary rule of colonies and new territories: Who conquers it first gets it. And so, you never made any mention of Germany until we attacked it. You are the one in the wrong here, as you think that this area is rightfully yours. The only area that is rightfully yours is the one you conquer or are given. And, please do not say that you ''allow'' us to attack something. You do not have control over us. We are in an alliance, where no one is leader. Please respect that. You own Italy.

Signed,
Diurpaneus Decebal, Emperor of the Dacian Empire

((I don't think that you are understanding What I am saying in role-play, and in Out of character. What I am saying in out of character, is that you cannot conquer Germany in 3 posts. I spent 8 pages conquering Italy and you seem to be able to take down empires within 2 posts. Now, In role-play, often Kings and Queens would give themselves titles that weren't true. The Holy Roman Emperor for example declared himself Rex Romanum, aka King of the Romans when he was in fact, German. Therefore my character thinks himself rightfully as Rex Germanum, King of the Germans. When my Character says he is allowing you to take certain places, it is merely what he thinks. I am not forcing you to only take over those areas. I am merely getting pissed off that you take over huge areas of Africa and Asia with posts like

"We send in 500 warriors who conquer the area. Luckily the villages in the area support us and so we now own all of -enterplacehere-"

No, that's not how it would work, I am assuming that people in Africa would have a very different Religion and Culture to you and would oppose you in every way possible. Other tribes and Nations in the area would send armies to get rid of you since you are a new, oppressive culture violently taking over there lands. In reality, the Roman Empire had tremendous difficulties invading Germania, even with their well oiled war machine. The German tribes at the time were a people not to be taken lightly and would ambush and fight to the bitter end. To say that you conquered them in what.. 3, maybe 4 posts of 2 - 3 lines each is.. stupid. This role-play is turning into who can post the most invasions in one page, since it seems that the NPC's must all be defenceless and fall within 3 posts.

If this Role-play carries on like this, then it will tear itself apart from arguments. Also, think, where else will my character invade? Africa is dominated, Asia is dominated, The America's are too far away and my people don't even know they exist. Western Europe is the only logical option and now that has just been taken away in several posts by you and Virgosa. /endrant.))

[Ai-sha]

"We send in 500 warriors who conquer the area. Luckily the villages in the area support us and so we now own all of -enterplacehere-"


Comical..... you're alright with me man.

You and Symphonia make giant posts. He/she makes one page posts! I don't even bother to read his/hers. If you have the talent to make giant posts with many details, then please do so. I cannot, and will not, because I am not good at it. You have talents that we do not have. And so, do not require us to be novelists. OK? I will not RP alongside a person that tells everyone to be better at what they do. Don't you see that we are trying? I've just about had enough of this, and if this goes on, I'm afraid I'll have to take action.

That is really the beauty of role playing in the first place; an overtly direct, or lacking-in-detail RP is, in my eyes, self-defeating.

Thing is though, his RP's are not all that long; most are good decent sized paragraph or two posts; compare this to others, like Symphonia, and even me, who have a tendency to make excessively long posts. The whole ideal of putting detail inside an RP, is to entertain other readers. They SHOULD be descriptive, like a novel, as opposed to that of a news bulletin or historical fact. Furthermore, detailed posts increase the longevity of the RP. At this rate, pretty soon you'll have conquered all of the old world, then what? You'll have little option's left.

Where-as if you RP'd each battle or, if that's too much, each conquest with good detail, it'll take longer for all of the world to be conquered. Furthermore, what if you Kumgar did decide to attack you? Do you think you would win when someone was genuinely reacting and resisting your troops, as opposed to getting steamrolled? No, in fact, if someone was judging a war between you two, the result would likely be different.

That i said, i don't mean to criticize without being constructive. As far as i've seen, detail is a quality that should be universal of all roleplaying; this is not to say, you should script every event and conversation, but a rudimentary level of detail is preferred. Now, you say you're not good at being descriptive, but i can assure you, you will improve with use.

[Horusland]

"We send in 500 warriors who conquer the area. Luckily the villages in the area support us and so we now own all of -enterplacehere-"


Comical..... you're alright with me man.

And exactly when you said that, he godmodded Dacia destroying and conquering his country, and dropped our of the RP.

[Ai-sha]

"We send in 500 warriors who conquer the area. Luckily the villages in the area support us and so we now own all of -enterplacehere-"


Comical..... you're alright with me man.

And exactly when you said that, he godmodded Dacia destroying and conquering his country, and dropped our of the RP.

Dis-interest seems to be quite contagious here, as you said you have considered leaving; i have as well, but i don't think i will. If you feel leaving is necessary, at least the pace will slow a bit.

[Horusland]

And exactly when you said that, he godmodded Dacia destroying and conquering his country, and dropped our of the RP.

Dis-interest seems to be quite contagious here, as you said you have considered leaving; i have as well, but i don't think i will. If you feel leaving is necessary, at least the pace will slow a bit.

I don't want to leave. He left. I won't leave until the end of this RP. I think you're confusing me with someone else.

[Krugmar]

I'm not interested in staying in an RP where I leave for a few hours and come back to find that you have managed to conquer Germany and had no resistance from the Germanic tribes. What I was trying to stress to you, which you seemed to have ignored is that you cannot just rapidly expand and suffer none of the drawbacks. There is a reason that the Roman Empire collapsed, and it was because it was too big and just couldn't defend it's entire border.As Ai-sha said, eventually you will conquer the old world and then have little left to do.

I was planning to have my troops first put down the rebellious Lord, then have the Imperator kill all his enemies. But I cannot take the liberty of actually doing political intrigue and making sure my province is ok while you create a Mega-Empire that is not challenged by any of the people who live inside it. By the time I will have finished and started getting my troops to Germania, all of Europe will have been conquered and I will have literally nothing to do except sit there and give you gifts not to attack me.

All I wanted was some realism, Yes, you don't have to have any reason to attack and conquer somewhere but it helps if you do. As you saw throughout my posts, my character believed himself to be the true Roman Emperor and that was his claim for taking it over. If you just say "I want Germany" then the Germanic tribes living there will laugh and spit at you. If you manage to conquer them, they will just revolt. If your character said "I am the true German King", then maybe the tribes you will have conquered may bend the knee. Not all will, but some will since you have declared yourself their true King, possibly killed their last one and conquered their lands which may be good enough for them. /endrant.

[Somali Caliphate]

Krugmar does have a point, this RP could be really much more fun if each player agrees to RP realistically. I have stopped the ridiculous expansion that I was doing before. Hirusland, did you say that you control the entire Benelux because I did explicitly mention that I had conquered it yesterday.

[Horusland]

''I'm not interested in staying in an RP where I leave for a few hours and come back to find that you have managed to conquer Germany and had no resistance from the Germanic tribes. ''

I did have resistance, and lost troops in the process.

''What I was trying to stress to you, which you seemed to have ignored is that you cannot just rapidly expand and suffer none of the drawbacks. There is a reason that the Roman Empire collapsed, and it was because it was too big and just couldn't defend it's entire border.As Ai-sha said, eventually you will conquer the old world and then have little left to do. ''

No one is attacking me, I do not need to defend all the borders of all the places in my nation. I am allied with other nations, and much of my border is shared with them, thus making the defense of that border unnecessary.

''I cannot take the liberty of actually doing political intrigue and making sure my province is ok while you create a Mega-Empire that is not challenged by any of the people who live inside it. By the time I will have finished and started getting my troops to Germania, all of Europe will have been conquered and I will have literally nothing to do except sit there and give you gifts not to attack me.''

Um..... we are on the same team here. Why would I attack you? You are in our alliance, and so we cannot attack you, and you cannot attack us. You tried to attack Germany, which belonged to us, and that's why I got angry. I really want to get Italy, but if you are in our alliance, I will not attack any of your territories at all, because that would make me a cheater, and a dishonorable person.
Of course, because you want to leave because we took a territory you really wanted changes everything........

[Empire of Symphonia]

I come back to see this......nice to know.......

[Horusland]

Krugmar does have a point, this RP could be really much more fun if each player agrees to RP realistically. I have stopped the ridiculous expansion that I was doing before. Hirusland, did you say that you control the entire Benelux because I did explicitly mention that I had conquered it yesterday.

I conquered Belgium and Netherlands. I said that we, as in you, me, and Virgosa, own the entire Benelux. Because we do. I own Belgium and the Netherlands, and you cam and got Luxembourg, of which I entirely forgot. And I also forgot about Liechtenstein, and I think that your post about Luxembourg reminded me to get it.

I RP realistically as much as I can, but I am not good at RPing long posts, like Krugmar and Symphonia are. Sorry. But that does not mean that I have to stop expanding because other countries tell me to. If one country just asked the other to stop expanding, it would be like asking it to give all its territories to the other country. No way.

And when I say ''we'', I sometimes refer to our alliance. Also, do you still want San Marino? Krugmar dropped out, so.........

[Knoxcrest]

I come back to see this......nice to know.......

Well the RPs basically falling apart here.

I'm sorry I lured you into such a mess

[Somali Caliphate]

Why thank you? Yes, we would like to retake San Marino.

[Horusland]

Why thank you? Yes, we would like to retake San Marino.

I'll make an IC post giving it to you. But I know I will feel really bad about taking Italy from Krugmar just like that......

[Krugmar]

I did have resistance, and lost troops in the process.

How much of a difference will those lost troops make to you? Also, that doesn't exactly answer my question. Where was the rallying of the German Tribes against these foreign invaders? How do you have the manpower to keep invading these places and making sure they have enough military to keep them safe from rebels, and police the state?

No one is attacking me, I do not need to defend all the borders of all the places in my nation. I am allied with other nations, and much of my border is shared with them, thus making the defense of that border unnecessary.

Allies can turn on each other very easily, once they do what will happen then? They will overrun your borders and by the time your military forces have grouped together they will have already taken a large chunk of land. For example. King Alfred of Russia allies with King Marvin of Poland. They get along very well and fight in many wars against their common enemy. King Alfred dies and his son decides that the Alliance is no longer valid and attacks and invades Poland.

Um..... we are on the same team here. Why would I attack you? You are in our alliance, and so we cannot attack you, and you cannot attack us. You tried to attack Germany, which belonged to us, and that's why I got angry. I really want to get Italy, but if you are in our alliance, I will not attack any of your territories at all, because that would make me a cheater, and a dishonorable person.
Of course, because you want to leave because we took a territory you really wanted changes everything.......


The first part I answered above. You would turn on me simply because you want land, and it is not cheating to do so. I am not leaving because you took Germany, I'm leaving because you took it within 3 posts with little to no resistance and no drawbacks of extending your Empire. I wanted Germany, yes, but I wouldn't mind if you began conquering it and actually role-played the events that would actually happen. The German people wouldn't just sit idly by as a foreign Empire marches in, kills a few of their soldiers and claims it as all their land.

What happened if your soldiers marched through a dark forest in Germany? Would they not get ambushed at all? Did your men just walk into a German village and say "We destroyed some German army, now you belong to our empire". I'm pretty sure that village would just revolt against your rule. Finally, I am not saying that you cannot conquer Germany, I'm saying that conquering it within 3 posts, with no resistance, no drawbacks and no pissed off German tribes is just plain stupid and is the real reason as to why I am leaving.

[Eaglleia]

I come back to see this......nice to know.......

This^

Seriously, you guys are godmodding. And Krugmar is mostly right. I have a feeling this RP will fall apart soon....

[Horusland]

How much of a difference will those lost troops make to you? Also, that doesn't exactly answer my question. Where was the rallying of the German Tribes against these foreign invaders? How do you have the manpower to keep invading these places and making sure they have enough military to keep them safe from rebels, and police the state?

I did not RP rallying against my Empire, because they are just some Celtic Tribes, that don't even work together, and so my armies went there and conquered the area, and destroyed anyone who opposed them. That's how it works.

Allies can turn on each other very easily, once they do what will happen then? They will overrun your borders and by the time your military forces have grouped together they will have already taken a large chunk of land. For example. King Alfred of Russia allies with King Marvin of Poland. They get along very well and fight in many wars against their common enemy. King Alfred dies and his son decides that the Alliance is no longer valid and attacks and invades Poland.

Maybe you don't trust your allies, but I do. I trust Virgosa and Zeronia. And I know that they would probably not attack me. And if they would, then I'd lose. I know. But I trust them. You don't trust us, which makes the whole Calaria entering the alliance thing very shaky.

The first part I answered above. You would turn on me simply because you want land, and it is not cheating to do so.

I have honor. I'd never attack you if you were in my alliance. The fact that you even talk about alliance members turning against each other shows me that you'd have had the tendency to be a dishonorable person, and do such things yourself.

I am not leaving because you took Germany, I'm leaving because you took it within 3 posts with little to no resistance and no drawbacks of extending your Empire.

I already stated before that I had resistance, and I lost people.
I did have resistance, and lost troops in the process.
Exactly what I said.

I wanted Germany, yes, but I wouldn't mind if you began conquering it and actually role-played the events that would actually happen. The German people wouldn't just sit idly by as a foreign Empire marches in, kills a few of their soldiers and claims it as all their land.

I already told you that I am not good at this! It takes me hours to write giant RPs. Please stop trying to make me write giant posts about what happens, when I can't!

What happened if your soldiers marched through a dark forest in Germany? Would they not get ambushed at all?

This is the first thing that you say that I actually agree with. They could have gotten ambushed. But they didn't. Maybe the Tribes didn't find out in time. Maybe we ambushed them. Look. I am NOT a simulator, and cannot RP every single thing that happens. A bird flew over the battle. Somebody said ''Hello.'' in Russia. I cannot just put all the details in the world in that. Maybe you can, but I am not good at this.

Did your men just walk into a German village and say "We destroyed some German army, now you belong to our empire". I'm pretty sure that village would just revolt against your rule. Finally, I am not saying that you cannot conquer Germany, I'm saying that conquering it within 3 posts, with no resistance, no drawbacks and no pissed off German tribes is just plain stupid and is the real reason as to why I am leaving.


You keep forgetting that there was resistance. But those were little tribes that always fought each other, and almost never worked together, except if somebody attacked them and they had to. But the thing is that nobody found out about the invasion except right before it happened. Not enough time for a pan or to even start working together. And I destroyed all people that stood in my way, not ''some German army''.

[Knoxcrest]

I come back to see this......nice to know.......

This^

Seriously, you guys are godmodding. And Krugmar is mostly right. I have a feeling this RP will fall apart soon....

Either everyone will leave on their own or the godmodding will get so terribly bad (though I don't see how it could get any worse) that the godmodders themselves will also leave.

[Horusland]

This^

Seriously, you guys are godmodding. And Krugmar is mostly right. I have a feeling this RP will fall apart soon....

Either everyone will leave on their own or the godmodding will get so terribly bad (though I don't see how it could get any worse) that the godmodders themselves will also leave.

Who is godmodding?
If you're talking about us conquering places, then you are wrong. We are allowed to conquer any area. Maybe YOU are godmodding, by trying to stop us from doing what we are allowed to do.

[Eaglleia]

I already told you that I am not good at this! It takes me hours to write giant RPs. Please stop trying to make me write giant posts about what happens, when I can't!

At least stop writing three lines then stopping your post. Can't you write at least a paragraph. If no, I guess it doesn't matter, but conquering Germany in three posts is unrealistic, all in short gaps of time between one another two. At least take longer.

[Horusland]

I already told you that I am not good at this! It takes me hours to write giant RPs. Please stop trying to make me write giant posts about what happens, when I can't!

At least stop writing three lines then stopping your post. Can't you write at least a paragraph. If no, I guess it doesn't matter, but conquering Germany in three posts is unrealistic, all in short gaps of time between one another two. At least take longer.

I'll try. And I'll TG Virgosa about it, too.

See? You can ASK, or you can be TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL AND GET ANGRY. You are the only person that was nice in saying that, and so you are the only person that gets that response from me. Thanks.

[Ai-sha]

How much of a difference will those lost troops make to you? Also, that doesn't exactly answer my question. Where was the rallying of the German Tribes against these foreign invaders? How do you have the manpower to keep invading these places and making sure they have enough military to keep them safe from rebels, and police the state?

I did not RP rallying against my Empire, because they are just some Celtic Tribes, that don't even work together, and so my armies went there and conquered the area, and destroyed anyone who opposed them. That's how it works.

You keep forgetting that there was resistance. But those were little tribes that always fought each other, and almost never worked together, except if somebody attacked them and they had to. But the thing is that nobody found out about the invasion except right before it happened. Not enough time for a pan or to even start working together. And I destroyed all people that stood in my way, not ''some German army''.

Just FYI it was the barbarians (including Celtic tribes, among others) that brought about the destruction of the Roman empire.

[Ivoslavia]

Oh, what the fuck?! Can't you just afford that we conquered this area and just pass trough our nations to conquer Russia or i don't know? There's this guy with France, you could defeat him and gain his territory.

[Horusland]

Zeronia and Laval!

That was to gain your attention. Please stop doing what you did in your last posts. The Vikings barely colonized America in 1000AD. It is now 1450 years before that. And so, it is not possible for any of you to know of each other. Try again later, and please edit your posts.