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Postby The Democratic Republic of Mars » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:17 pm

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The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote:Besides, the people of Burma can represent themselves in the Indian senate which if they were apart of China they wouldn't be able to,

:palm: Because I'm a real bad guy... You don't know what I'd do.


That's not what I'm saying, China is more populated than India is, and China was extremely nationalist at this point in history. All non-Chinese citizens in Burma would be treated as if they are lesser than the Chinese people, and they probably wouldn't be elected to the Chinese government, meaning that your government wouldn't represent the demographic properly.
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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:18 pm

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Valkstadt wrote:I think that having these things anywhere before the 21st century would be WAY too unrealistic


Even if they existed both in prototype stage and theory at this time? Seriously, Tesla was not taken seriously until long after he was dead. If he was given the cash for his research, he would have been easily able to produce workable results.

It may not seem realistic, but it is. Tesla was a man long before his time and if given consideration when he was alive, he would have been regarded as the greatest scientific mind who ever lived. This will shift technology away from a modern time, I seriously do not want to go down a road where the only thing different is that technologies are developed a couple of years before their invention.

But there is still no way this stuff would have been effective or even work until the 60's at absolute best. I don't want death rays in the damn 20s when people still barely have electricity
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:21 pm

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Even if they existed both in prototype stage and theory at this time? Seriously, Tesla was not taken seriously until long after he was dead. If he was given the cash for his research, he would have been easily able to produce workable results.

It may not seem realistic, but it is. Tesla was a man long before his time and if given consideration when he was alive, he would have been regarded as the greatest scientific mind who ever lived. This will shift technology away from a modern time, I seriously do not want to go down a road where the only thing different is that technologies are developed a couple of years before their invention.

But there is still no way this stuff would have been effective or even work until the 60's at absolute best. I don't want death rays in the damn 20s when people still barely have electricity


Well, I'm obviously going to put limits on the thing. And it actually did work in the 20s, just pointing that out. There will be certain costs to the damn thing, upkeep of it, and a potential of something going wrong.

Also, due to Tesla helping our nations, most people in Brazil and America have cheap and affordable electricity. That's the problem with working with a genius - he tends to produce things that far before their time.

Besides, I also like to think that this will stimulate an arms race and a potential early Cold War, which could end up in a Second World War.
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Postby New high charity 24 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:23 pm

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New high charity 24 wrote: :palm: Because I'm a real bad guy... You don't know what I'd do.


That's not what I'm saying, China is more populated than India is, and China was extremely nationalist at this point in history. All non-Chinese citizens in Burma would be treated as if they are lesser than the Chinese people, and they probably wouldn't be elected to the Chinese government, meaning that your government wouldn't represent the demographic properly.


So, you believe my government would supress them, throw them down, give them no rights, And China isn't nationalist, I where are the Nationalists in my posts? And there is Irony in you putting soldiers in Tibet to stop aggresion.
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:25 pm

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The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote:
That's not what I'm saying, China is more populated than India is, and China was extremely nationalist at this point in history. All non-Chinese citizens in Burma would be treated as if they are lesser than the Chinese people, and they probably wouldn't be elected to the Chinese government, meaning that your government wouldn't represent the demographic properly.


So, you believe my government would supress them, throw them down, give them no rights, And China isn't nationalist, I where are the Nationalists in my posts? And there is Irony in you putting soldiers in Tibet to stop aggresion.


Well, showing how you treat the Indians as such, I don't see where anyone would get that idea.

I think the clearly stated purpose of sending Indian soldiers into Tibet was to prevent Chinese Aggression.

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Postby New high charity 24 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:27 pm

Neros wrote:Well, showing how you treat the Indians as such, I don't see where anyone would get that idea.

I think the clearly stated purpose of sending Indian soldiers into Tibet was to prevent Chinese Aggression.


How I treat my enemies, not how I treat my allies.

Alright, I guess that would make sense, in to prevent a war, which is going to happen. But preventing the inevitable.

Say, are we okay? just wondering if your mad at me?
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Postby Chinese Federation » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:28 pm

The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote:
New high charity 24 wrote: :palm: Because I'm a real bad guy... You don't know what I'd do.


That's not what I'm saying, China is more populated than India is, and China was extremely nationalist at this point in history. All non-Chinese citizens in Burma would be treated as if they are lesser than the Chinese people, and they probably wouldn't be elected to the Chinese government, meaning that your government wouldn't represent the demographic properly.


and India had allot of problems too. along with the nationalism, it also had to deal with the religious problems. The Hindu-Muslim tension resulted in the superstate splitting into three countries(two at first) and over a million deaths in the following religious violence. It just goes to show that India was not a very tolerant place and that Burma would not do better under Indian rule as compared to the Chinese. The entire nation is a violent melting pot of ethnicities. the only reason why its still one country is because of the military junta
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Postby The Democratic Republic of Mars » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:29 pm

Historically, China was very nationalist at this time period. Nothing has been done to eliminate the nationalist feelings, so it would seem that India is still nationalist.
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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:29 pm

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Valkstadt wrote:But there is still no way this stuff would have been effective or even work until the 60's at absolute best. I don't want death rays in the damn 20s when people still barely have electricity


Well, I'm obviously going to put limits on the thing. And it actually did work in the 20s, just pointing that out. There will be certain costs to the damn thing, upkeep of it, and a potential of something going wrong.

Also, due to Tesla helping our nations, most people in Brazil and America have cheap and affordable electricity. That's the problem with working with a genius - he tends to produce things that far before their time.

Besides, I also like to think that this will stimulate an arms race and a potential early Cold War, which could end up in a Second World War.

Yes but I would prefer mostly conventional weapons. Your "fighting bears" are pretty unrealistic in South America.
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:30 pm

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Neros wrote:Well, showing how you treat the Indians as such, I don't see where anyone would get that idea.

I think the clearly stated purpose of sending Indian soldiers into Tibet was to prevent Chinese Aggression.


How I treat my enemies, not how I treat my allies.

Alright, I guess that would make sense, in to prevent a war, which is going to happen. But preventing the inevitable.

Say, are we okay? just wondering if your mad at me?


Nah, I never get mad nor really hold grudges. I was just pointing something out. I tend to trust people, even if they have done me wrong. Terrible business, but it's a personal weakness I suppose. We good China, We good.

Also Mars - If China was nationalist in this period, wouldn't the Chinese in Burma also align with that nationalist feeling?

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Postby The Democratic Republic of Mars » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:34 pm

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The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote:
That's not what I'm saying, China is more populated than India is, and China was extremely nationalist at this point in history. All non-Chinese citizens in Burma would be treated as if they are lesser than the Chinese people, and they probably wouldn't be elected to the Chinese government, meaning that your government wouldn't represent the demographic properly.


and India had allot of problems too. along with the nationalism, it also had to deal with the religious problems. The Hindu-Muslim tension resulted in the superstate splitting into three countries(two at first) and over a million deaths in the following religious violence. It just goes to show that India was not a very tolerant place and that Burma would not do better under Indian rule as compared to the Chinese. The entire nation is a violent melting pot of ethnicities. the only reason why its still one country is because of the military junta


My nation is not a flipping military junta, it is a democratic empire which has an elected senate which is elected by the people. My flag en-cooperates religions of my nation into it, and my nation doesn't care what religion or ethnicity of my citizens. Stop trying to cause problems in my nation, frankly you don't want me going over to your nation and highlighting its historical flaws now do you?
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:35 pm

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Well, I'm obviously going to put limits on the thing. And it actually did work in the 20s, just pointing that out. There will be certain costs to the damn thing, upkeep of it, and a potential of something going wrong.

Also, due to Tesla helping our nations, most people in Brazil and America have cheap and affordable electricity. That's the problem with working with a genius - he tends to produce things that far before their time.

Besides, I also like to think that this will stimulate an arms race and a potential early Cold War, which could end up in a Second World War.

Yes but I would prefer mostly conventional weapons. Your "fighting bears" are pretty unrealistic in South America.


Funny thing about those Fighting Bears. They were mainly envisioned to play heavy roles in the European War, such as in Russia and Northern Italy, where most of the American Armies were engaged. Sadly, the War ended yet the project remained. Now me and America have fighting bear units and nothing to use them on. Generally, they're better suited to America's temperate zone, but can be used in the Andes, since the cold air should be at least a tad similar.

So, I used some on Bolivia in the Mountainous warfare. I'm not going to send a 1,500lb mammal with fur thick enough to survive low caliber gunfire into the jungles or the tropics. That's just stupid as hell.

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Postby Tsarsgrad » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:36 pm

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Valkstadt wrote:Yes but I would prefer mostly conventional weapons. Your "fighting bears" are pretty unrealistic in South America.


Funny thing about those Fighting Bears. They were mainly envisioned to play heavy roles in the European War, such as in Russia and Northern Italy, where most of the American Armies were engaged. Sadly, the War ended yet the project remained. Now me and America have fighting bear units and nothing to use them on. Generally, they're better suited to America's temperate zone, but can be used in the Andes, since the cold air should be at least a tad similar.

So, I used some on Bolivia in the Mountainous warfare. I'm not going to send a 1,500lb mammal with fur thick enough to survive low caliber gunfire into the jungles or the tropics. That's just stupid as hell.


Something about this made me laugh. :lol:
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Postby New high charity 24 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:37 pm

The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote: My nation is not a flipping military junta, it is a democratic empire which has an elected senate which is elected by the people. My flag en-cooperates religions of my nation into it, and my nation doesn't care what religion or ethnicity of my citizens. Stop trying to cause problems in my nation, frankly you don't want me going over to your nation and highlighting its historical flaws now do you?


Ha, that's funny... Kind of reminds something that a person who is rping in a rp called 'WWI' labeled Chinese historical faults to draw lines in what he thought.
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Postby The Democratic Republic of Mars » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:37 pm

Neros wrote:
New high charity 24 wrote:
How I treat my enemies, not how I treat my allies.

Alright, I guess that would make sense, in to prevent a war, which is going to happen. But preventing the inevitable.

Say, are we okay? just wondering if your mad at me?


Nah, I never get mad nor really hold grudges. I was just pointing something out. I tend to trust people, even if they have done me wrong. Terrible business, but it's a personal weakness I suppose. We good China, We good.

Also Mars - If China was nationalist in this period, wouldn't the Chinese in Burma also align with that nationalist feeling?


Well if those Chinese factions loved China so much, they wouldn't have left it in the first place.
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Postby The Democratic Republic of Mars » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:38 pm

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The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote: My nation is not a flipping military junta, it is a democratic empire which has an elected senate which is elected by the people. My flag en-cooperates religions of my nation into it, and my nation doesn't care what religion or ethnicity of my citizens. Stop trying to cause problems in my nation, frankly you don't want me going over to your nation and highlighting its historical flaws now do you?


Ha, that's funny... Kind of reminds something that a person who is rping in a rp called 'WWI' labeled Chinese historical faults to draw lines in what he thought.


Well he had to go into the historical faults of nations, I have to go through the historical faults of other nations if I wanted to prove my point.
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Postby Tsarsgrad » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:38 pm

The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote:
Neros wrote:
Nah, I never get mad nor really hold grudges. I was just pointing something out. I tend to trust people, even if they have done me wrong. Terrible business, but it's a personal weakness I suppose. We good China, We good.

Also Mars - If China was nationalist in this period, wouldn't the Chinese in Burma also align with that nationalist feeling?


Well if those Chinese factions loved China so much, they wouldn't have left it in the first place.


Jeez, calm down you two.
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Postby Chinese Federation » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:40 pm

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and India had allot of problems too. along with the nationalism, it also had to deal with the religious problems. The Hindu-Muslim tension resulted in the superstate splitting into three countries(two at first) and over a million deaths in the following religious violence. It just goes to show that India was not a very tolerant place and that Burma would not do better under Indian rule as compared to the Chinese. The entire nation is a violent melting pot of ethnicities. the only reason why its still one country is because of the military junta


My nation is not a flipping military junta, it is a democratic empire which has an elected senate which is elected by the people. My flag en-cooperates religions of my nation into it, and my nation doesn't care what religion or ethnicity of my citizens. Stop trying to cause problems in my nation, frankly you don't want me going over to your nation and highlighting its historical flaws now do you?

i meant burma =p
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:42 pm

Yes, I think Germany should be able to sit you two down and reach a peaceful co-existence for now.

My main idea would be to authorize the creation of Burma as a buffer state between China and India to prevent such hostilities. Tibet could also be protected under such a plan of "buffer zones". The area could be policed and militarized by the international community to prevent China or India from developing a major hold on the land.

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Postby The Democratic Republic of Mars » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:43 pm

Chinese Federation wrote:
The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote:
My nation is not a flipping military junta, it is a democratic empire which has an elected senate which is elected by the people. My flag en-cooperates religions of my nation into it, and my nation doesn't care what religion or ethnicity of my citizens. Stop trying to cause problems in my nation, frankly you don't want me going over to your nation and highlighting its historical flaws now do you?

i meant burma =p


In any case, the factions in Burma will be able to represent themselves in the Indian Senate.
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Postby Tsarsgrad » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:43 pm

Neros wrote:Yes, I think Germany should be able to sit you two down and reach a peaceful co-existence for now.

My main idea would be to authorize the creation of Burma as a buffer state between China and India to prevent such hostilities. Tibet could also be protected under such a plan of "buffer zones". The area could be policed and militarized by the international community to prevent China or India from developing a major hold on the land.

Thoughts, opinions, rage?


Germany supports. I say we hold a council in the city of Berlin, that I'm turning into a monument city, and sort this out.
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Postby Chinese Federation » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:45 pm

Neros wrote:Yes, I think Germany should be able to sit you two down and reach a peaceful co-existence for now.

My main idea would be to authorize the creation of Burma as a buffer state between China and India to prevent such hostilities. Tibet could also be protected under such a plan of "buffer zones". The area could be policed and militarized by the international community to prevent China or India from developing a major hold on the land.

Thoughts, opinions, rage?


good idea, though i dont think we have a organization in place to deal with it. anyone want to create the League of Nations?
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Postby New high charity 24 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:47 pm

The Democratic Republic of Mars wrote:
Well he had to go into the historical faults of nations, I have to go through the historical faults of other nations if I wanted to prove my point.


And he was proving his point, see, Practice what one preaches. Although, I do hope we can get over it and RP.
Neros wrote:Yes, I think Germany should be able to sit you two down and reach a peaceful co-existence for now.

My main idea would be to authorize the creation of Burma as a buffer state between China and India to prevent such hostilities. Tibet could also be protected under such a plan of "buffer zones". The area could be policed and militarized by the international community to prevent China or India from developing a major hold on the land.

Thoughts, opinions, rage?


Le Support. I like, It creates goodness. Although Tibet will be Chinese.
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:49 pm

Chinese Federation wrote:
Neros wrote:Yes, I think Germany should be able to sit you two down and reach a peaceful co-existence for now.

My main idea would be to authorize the creation of Burma as a buffer state between China and India to prevent such hostilities. Tibet could also be protected under such a plan of "buffer zones". The area could be policed and militarized by the international community to prevent China or India from developing a major hold on the land.

Thoughts, opinions, rage?


good idea, though i dont think we have a organization in place to deal with it. anyone want to create the League of Nations?


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Germany supports. I say we hold a council in the city of Berlin, that I'm turning into a monument city, and sort this out.


Alright sounds good. I think a Congress of Berlin could serve as a temporary thing akin to the League. Though, it will mainly be a place to voice something, everyone votes on what to do, and so forth.

Mainly to serve as an arbiter in Player vs Player conflicts that develop into a flame fest, yes?

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