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Costa Fiero
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Postby Costa Fiero » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:41 pm

Benutanairan wrote:I have an idea for the collapse of the ottomans and rise of modern turkey (combined with the unoccupied portions)
still meaning I control spain. As for the independent turkey i'd modernize it in a german fashion with bits of republicanism considering the new turkey " had a president"


What kind of timeframe are we talking about for the collapse of the Ottomans?

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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:52 pm

Got a new awesome flag for Poland! It blends Green from Lithuania, Blue from Ukraine and White from Poland. It also sports the Polish Eagle, the blue Ukrainian coat of arms and the red Lithuanian shield
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Postby Landseria » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:54 pm

So, is Volkstadt or Euskirribakondara in charge of the RP? Or both?
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:54 pm

Costa Fiero wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:I have an idea for the collapse of the ottomans and rise of modern turkey (combined with the unoccupied portions)
still meaning I control spain. As for the independent turkey i'd modernize it in a german fashion with bits of republicanism considering the new turkey " had a president"


What kind of timeframe are we talking about for the collapse of the Ottomans?


Historically the ottoman empire had collapsed thanks to a progressive part of both the allies and the stress from several rebellions in the south. The ottomans bureaucracy and military had become stagnated and the young turks rebellion didn't help in 1908. I'd say the ottoman empire shall fall by mass reform not a military coup. I'd give it two months before the ottomans officially dissolve and turn into the Republic ( constitutional monarchy) of turkey-syria. The country itself will be in need of serious reformation in terms of its economy, military, and transportation system. Im getting rid of the camel caravan system the ottomans love so much and replacing it with massive railroads by the end of the 1940s.

Also here is spains new flag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_ ... 1_1939.svg
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:57 pm

Landseria wrote:So, is Volkstadt or Euskirribakondara in charge of the RP? Or both?


Sorta both.
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Postby Landseria » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:59 pm

So Afghanistan is free right? I can join?
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:00 pm

Landseria wrote:So Afghanistan is free right? I can join?

:rofl: yes you can just make sure you dominate your position on your chosen country.
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Postby Chinese Federation » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:07 pm

its gonna be a total land grab when they do fall. dibs on Qatar
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:09 pm

Chinese Federation wrote:its gonna be a total land grab when they do fall. dibs on Qatar


You might want to have arabia and use their forces to take Qatar.
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:14 pm

Valkstadt wrote:Got a new awesome flag for Poland! It blends Green from Lithuania, Blue from Ukraine and White from Poland. It also sports the Polish Eagle, the blue Ukrainian coat of arms and the red Lithuanian shield


Valk may I go ahead with my plan for the Ottomans?
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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:15 pm

before we start calling parts of the Ottoman Empire, I might have a person to RP as them. Give him some time. This guy is one of the best Rpers I've seen.
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:16 pm

Valkstadt wrote:before we start calling parts of the Ottoman Empire, I might have a person to RP as them. Give him some time. This guy is one of the best Rpers I've seen.


Well there go my plans however my 2nd backup plan is up now.
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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:17 pm

Also, technically I'm not in charge of the RP anymore. But seeing as no one has afghanistan, I'm assuming Euski will let him in. I'm also assuming he will give GB back to Burkia because he was in the hospital
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:19 pm

Well creating the rp kind of gives you some power, its like being the vice president ( not many powers but some)
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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:21 pm

Benutanairan wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:before we start calling parts of the Ottoman Empire, I might have a person to RP as them. Give him some time. This guy is one of the best Rpers I've seen.


Well there go my plans however my 2nd backup plan is up now.

Sure you dont want to RP as the Ottoman Empire or Turkey? Spain kinda got screwed over before you took them.
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Postby Benutanairan » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:26 pm

Valkstadt wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
Well there go my plans however my 2nd backup plan is up now.

Sure you dont want to RP as the Ottoman Empire or Turkey? Spain kinda got screwed over before you took them.



Eh fine but like I said Ataturks reforms are of the utmost importances-the ottomans still only have one railway. I'll recognize iraq and end the rebellions influence in syria and turkey and begin the modernization of the cities.
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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:31 pm

Benutanairan wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:Sure you dont want to RP as the Ottoman Empire or Turkey? Spain kinda got screwed over before you took them.



Eh fine but like I said Ataturks reforms are of the utmost importances-the ottomans still only have one railway. I'll recognize iraq and end the rebellions influence in syria and turkey and begin the modernization of the cities.

Probably for the better. Spain lost almost all its territories...
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:43 pm

Benutanairan wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:Sure you dont want to RP as the Ottoman Empire or Turkey? Spain kinda got screwed over before you took them.



Eh fine but like I said Ataturks reforms are of the utmost importances-the ottomans still only have one railway. I'll recognize iraq and end the rebellions influence in syria and turkey and begin the modernization of the cities.


Actually, Ottomans had a pretty good Rail transport system at this time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Turki ... n_1918.jpg

Most were owned/operated by foreign nations, but still, railways nonetheless.

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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:15 pm

Terrible idea:

Dam the Amazon River to produce a gigantic amount of energy, and a massive lake-river system out of all of Amazonia. The great amount of river produced can be used to sustain increased agriculture (with large-scale use of water pipes/irrigation canals) and foster an even larger growth of the rainforest-like environment around the Amazon Lake.

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Postby Valkstadt » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:19 pm

Neros wrote:Terrible idea:

Dam the Amazon River to produce a gigantic amount of energy, and a massive lake-river system out of all of Amazonia. The great amount of river produced can be used to sustain increased agriculture (with large-scale use of water pipes/irrigation canals) and foster an even larger growth of the rainforest-like environment around the Amazon Lake.

I wouldn't do that... All the environmentalist hippie liberals in the US will invade and slaughter every single man, woman and child because you will have killed off several species of insects... BE WARNED
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Postby Costa Fiero » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:32 pm

Just to let everyone know that when Iraq is officially independent and recognised by the Ottomans, it will be come a pro-Arab nationalism supporter as well as one of the bigger sources of oil in the region. And we consider ourselves "neutral" or at least part of the non-aligned movement.

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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:20 pm

Valkstadt wrote:
Neros wrote:Terrible idea:

Dam the Amazon River to produce a gigantic amount of energy, and a massive lake-river system out of all of Amazonia. The great amount of river produced can be used to sustain increased agriculture (with large-scale use of water pipes/irrigation canals) and foster an even larger growth of the rainforest-like environment around the Amazon Lake.

I wouldn't do that... All the environmentalist hippie liberals in the US will invade and slaughter every single man, woman and child because you will have killed off several species of insects... BE WARNED

In 1917?! COME AT ME, HIPPIES

EDIT: Been making my flag. God, it's taking a while because I've been doing it by scratch and I just figured out how to utilize transparency on Windows 8 Paint. Rough basic:

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Postby Mexican Liberation » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:47 pm

Neros wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:I wouldn't do that... All the environmentalist hippie liberals in the US will invade and slaughter every single man, woman and child because you will have killed off several species of insects... BE WARNED

In 1917?! COME AT ME, HIPPIES

EDIT: Been making my flag. God, it's taking a while because I've been doing it by scratch and I just figured out how to utilize transparency on Windows 8 Paint. Rough basic:

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That's really nice actually :clap:
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Postby Neros » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 pm

Mexican Liberation wrote:
Neros wrote:In 1917?! COME AT ME, HIPPIES

EDIT: Been making my flag. God, it's taking a while because I've been doing it by scratch and I just figured out how to utilize transparency on Windows 8 Paint. Rough basic:

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That's really nice actually :clap:

Danke. Finished it, both are good enough, but meh. 6 Stars represent the 6 Kingdoms of South America:

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Kingdoms:

-Rio de la Plata (North Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, South Brazil, South Bolivia)
-Chile (Chile, part of Bolivia, Patagonia, Antarctic Territory)
-Gran Colombia (Colombia, Venezuela, Caribbean Islands)
-Amazonia (Amazon Rainforests of Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, and Peru, the Guiana's)
-Brazil (Central and Coastal Brazil)
-Peru (Peru, Ecuador, Northern Bolivia)

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Postby The Democratic Republic of Mars » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:24 am

Did anyone else notice how the old British guy tried to push the new British guy out? Lol.
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