Elder Scrolls: The Great War (OOC/Signup) - Open)

[Wolfmanne]

I cannot see 500 Legionnaires/Guards doing that. Today, Commandos, Marines, Paratroopers, Airborne troopers etc may be taught that but since this is pretty much some half Roman, half medieval era with a bit of magic put into it, there is no need for them to be trained how to abseil. And lower a bridge? It won't be secure enough to have 500 men cross it.

Not abseil. Climb down a ladder.

Lower a bridge? Please. Roman engineers can design a portable bridge designed to cross the Tiber river. These guys, with a little strengthening spell from a mage or two, can do the same.

Wouldn't the Thalmor at least keep a few reserves? They can easily be committed to fight off 500 men. Considering that the average Thalmor soldier is better equipped than the typical Legionnaire/Guard, it really doesn't matter about the numbers. They just need some good tactics. Hannibal Barca was outnumbered in several of his battles, he beats the Roman in the Battle of Cannae even when the Romans have about 20,000 - 30,000 more men. The ratio isn't really that much different from the Siege of Bravil. And besides, you got what you wanted, so why are we still arguing over this?

[Spetznaz Assault Teams]

Not abseil. Climb down a ladder.

Lower a bridge? Please. Roman engineers can design a portable bridge designed to cross the Tiber river. These guys, with a little strengthening spell from a mage or two, can do the same.

Wouldn't the Thalmor at least keep a few reserves? They can easily be committed to fight off 500 men. Considering that the average Thalmor soldier is better equipped than the typical Legionnaire/Guard, it really doesn't matter about the numbers. They just need some good tactics. Hannibal Barca was outnumbered in several of his battles, he beats the Roman in the Battle of Cannae even when the Romans have about 20,000 - 30,000 more men. The ratio isn't really that much different from the Siege of Bravil. And besides, you got what you wanted, so why are we still arguing over this?

I didn't WANT anything besides to make my point. Which apparently hasn't sunk in yet.

Fine. Choke point right? A thousand men in that choke point, deployed on the ground and the walls, could easily hold off six times their number without appearing under-strength. And then five thousand men appear behind you.

[Wolfmanne]

Wouldn't the Thalmor at least keep a few reserves? They can easily be committed to fight off 500 men. Considering that the average Thalmor soldier is better equipped than the typical Legionnaire/Guard, it really doesn't matter about the numbers. They just need some good tactics. Hannibal Barca was outnumbered in several of his battles, he beats the Roman in the Battle of Cannae even when the Romans have about 20,000 - 30,000 more men. The ratio isn't really that much different from the Siege of Bravil. And besides, you got what you wanted, so why are we still arguing over this?

I didn't WANT anything besides to make my point. Which apparently hasn't sunk in yet.

Fine. Choke point right? A thousand men in that choke point, deployed on the ground and the walls, could easily hold off six times their number without appearing under-strength. And then five thousand men appear behind you.

From a hill not too far from Bravil it easy for a Thalmor officer notice that 5000 men are climbing a wall at the rear and that something is going to happen. After that you still got the hilly area to contend with before crossing the bridge again. The choke point means that they are going to get a massive volley of arrows coming at them. With all the time in the world, they can regroup and set up a defensive position, perhaps even get some reinforcements from Enelyn's army depending on how much she can spare.

You seriously want 5,000 men to go through this.

[Spetznaz Assault Teams]

I didn't WANT anything besides to make my point. Which apparently hasn't sunk in yet.

Fine. Choke point right? A thousand men in that choke point, deployed on the ground and the walls, could easily hold off six times their number without appearing under-strength. And then five thousand men appear behind you.

From a hill not too far from Bravil it easy for a Thalmor officer notice that 5000 men are climbing a wall at the rear and that something is going to happen. After that you still got the hilly area to contend with before crossing the bridge again. The choke point means that they are going to get a massive volley of arrows coming at them. With all the time in the world, they can regroup and set up a defensive position, perhaps even get some reinforcements from Enelyn's army depending on how much she can spare.

You seriously want 5,000 men to go through this.

Shields up, shields front. Arrows = useless. Standard tactics when facing archers.

During the dead of night. You have to stop forgetting that. And before you say "5000 men make a lot of noise" the sound of a roaring river tends to drown those things out.

And that's not thick woods. There's 5-10 feet between every trunk. This is thick woods.

[Lancearc]

From a hill not too far from Bravil it easy for a Thalmor officer notice that 5000 men are climbing a wall at the rear and that something is going to happen. After that you still got the hilly area to contend with before crossing the bridge again. The choke point means that they are going to get a massive volley of arrows coming at them. With all the time in the world, they can regroup and set up a defensive position, perhaps even get some reinforcements from Enelyn's army depending on how much she can spare.

You seriously want 5,000 men to go through this.

Shields up, shields front. Arrows = useless. Standard tactics when facing archers.

During the dead of night. You have to stop forgetting that. And before you say "5000 men make a lot of noise" the sound of a roaring river tends to drown those things out.

And that's not thick woods. There's 5-10 feet between every trunk. This is thick woods.

According to what we see in the game, the river isn't quite roaring.

[Spetznaz Assault Teams]

Shields up, shields front. Arrows = useless. Standard tactics when facing archers.

During the dead of night. You have to stop forgetting that. And before you say "5000 men make a lot of noise" the sound of a roaring river tends to drown those things out.

And that's not thick woods. There's 5-10 feet between every trunk. This is thick woods.

According to what we see in the game, the river isn't quite roaring.

If the current is fast enough to drown an unarmored man it's loud enough to drown out a walking armored man.

[Licentiapacisterra]

Tagging this until I can make an app

[Terripin]

Shouldn't we try to keep this alive?

[Videssos]

Shouldn't we try to keep this alive?

I believe we should, yes.

[Wolfmanne]

To be honest, I'm not really sure. I didn't plan this RP well and there are two other decent Elder Scrolls RPs which you should check out. Unless you really want me to keep it alive.

[Zemkal]

No, we should keep it alive ( despite the fact I kinda inadvertantly created compitition)

[Videssos]

To be honest, I'm not really sure. I didn't plan this RP well and there are two other decent Elder Scrolls RPs which you should check out. Unless you really want me to keep it alive.

I would highly prefer that this RP stays alive. I don't like TES RPs dying.

[North Banrodesia]

Wolfmanne, why not issue some of these side quests you were on about? I will make my Dremora app, too.

[Videssos]

Why is this RP dying?

[New Armarzia]

Unforunately I couldn't post much ICly for a while due to end of school and college application stuff, but am more free on time now. So I am willing to try to dig this thing back front he grave

[Videssos]

Yay!

Hope dawns once more. We need to drag more people back to posting here, though.

[Wolfmanne]

Ok... so this failed then. I guess I need to revise my mistakes and perhaps get ready for another incarnation if anyone's interested?

[New Armarzia]

Id be interested though i think a more open-ended setting would be better. Like the rp takes place during the great war...but not every member has to be involved. Like how skyrim has the civil war but the main story doesnt revolve around it

[Terripin]

Ok... so this failed then. I guess I need to revise my mistakes and perhaps get ready for another incarnation if anyone's interested?

How about the RP that took place after the Dragon Crisis? Like tensions rising within the Thalmor and Imperials, etc. assuming the Stormcloak rebellion either suceeded or failed.

[North Banrodesia]

Id be interested though i think a more open-ended setting would be better. Like the rp takes place during the great war...but not every member has to be involved. Like how skyrim has the civil war but the main story doesnt revolve around it

I like this idea. Maybe we could set it in Cyrodiil during the Oblivion Crisis, But your character can be/do whoever they please?

[Wolfmanne]

Id be interested though i think a more open-ended setting would be better. Like the rp takes place during the great war...but not every member has to be involved. Like how skyrim has the civil war but the main story doesnt revolve around it

Agreed. That is the first thing I thought;.

Ok... so this failed then. I guess I need to revise my mistakes and perhaps get ready for another incarnation if anyone's interested?

How about the RP that took place after the Dragon Crisis? Like tensions rising within the Thalmor and Imperials, etc. assuming the Stormcloak rebellion either suceeded or failed.

This will likely be case but this won't be central. I have thought of another one, which will be set across Tamriel. Let's just say that the Dragonborn (who for this is a Nord) defeated Alduin and chose not to kill Paarthurnax. He then aids Ulfric Stormcloak in the Skyrim Civil War, who goes onto kill General Tullius and Legate Rikke. Angry at this, the Dragonborn goes his own path, a path where he briefly became a Werewolf, served several Daedric Lords (or chose not to), joined the Dawnguard and defeated Lord Harkon, aiedd the Forsworn in the Cidna Mine breakout, assassinated Emperor Titus Medes II etc. Meanwhile, Ulfric Stormcloak begins an age of repression. In the Reach, he takes a large Stormcloak army and mercilessly represses the citizens and fights a long guerilla campaign against the Forsworn. At first, it seems as if the Forsworn would be defeated but suddenly they returned and in larger numbers. To this day (a day which I haven't decided), Markarth remains the only hold in Skyrim to lack any guard and instead to be guardedby the Stormcloaks, Ulfric's private army and official army of Skyrim (along with the Hold Guards, who can be conscripted to fight along side the Stormcloaks). At the same time, the High Elves are exiled, the Dumner and Bosmer are either confined to Gray, Wood or Mer Quarters in cities. Argonians are further segregated from any areas with a significant Dumner population, usually some place near water and the Khajiit are barred from any holds. The Stormcloaks ruthlessly defeat the Orc Strongholds, with the remaining Orcs fleeing to Orsinum after Ulfric exiles them. Riften is the exception to all of the above, ,although the reason why is unknown and as a result, it has become a refuge for those who can afford to purchase property from the city.

In the rest of Tamriel, tensions between the Empire and the Dominion are likely to continue. However, the Dominion were embarrassed by their failed attempt to annex Black Marsh, being unprepared to fight the Argonians and the spiteful ecosystem of the nation and the borders didn't change. This brought the Argonians into an unofficial alliance with the Empire, although the Argonians are unlikely to be competent in the field of open battle. Resistance in Elsweyr is increasing, which is likely funded and supported by Hammerfell nobles, Ulfric Stormcloak, the Imperials and Argonians collectively. The Thalmor, angered by this weakened position, commit one of the largest atrocities; several of their agents in the Empire release a plague in High Rock, which kills up to a fifth of the population and severely devastates the region. Then plague primarily affects the Iliac Bay bay area, ruining once great cities such as Daggerfall and Wayrest. It crosses borders to Hammerfell, although the damage isn't as significant. The Imperials are unable to commit so many resources and tensions between High Rock and Cyrodiil increase, which threatens to destabilise the Empire.

This is proven when the Daggerfall Covenant is reformed, an alliance between several kingdoms in High Rock with several in Hammerfell, although the Hammerfell kingdoms retain their sovereignty and the High Rock kingdoms remain a part of the Empire, but with significant autonomy to the point of near-independence. Orsinium is also a part of this. With the majority of Legionnaires stationed in Cyrodiil, little can be done, proving the Empire to be almost powerless. Although it is essentially an anti-Thalmor alliance, it does prove that the Empire is weakening. The Daggerfall Covenant has also shown itself to be anti-Skyrim by providing refuge towards exiled Orcs, deposed pro-Imperial Nobles and their families and even key Forsworn leaders, however all of this was made possible by the work of Thalmor agents. It gets worse; an unexpected challenger enters the Palace of Kings, challenges Ulfric Stormcloak. Unknown to him, this challenger is the Dragonborn. The two duel with their voices and Ulfric is killed. Ulfric has been dedicated to politics for much of his life and hasn't married, thus starting a succession crisis, since the Jarls can't agree on who should be High King. Strangely enough, this was not caused by the Thalmor. Whilst the majority of provinces in Tamriel are anti-Thalmor, the Thalmor's policy of dividing has been successful... and the only thing that can come next is conquest.

This is the setting, but as I've said, it'll be more fluid and open-ended.

Id be interested though i think a more open-ended setting would be better. Like the rp takes place during the great war...but not every member has to be involved. Like how skyrim has the civil war but the main story doesnt revolve around it

I like this idea. Maybe we could set it in Cyrodiil during the Oblivion Crisis, But your character can be/do whoever they please?

I'm not really into the idea of a post-Oblivion RP. I'd prefer it to be post-Skyrim but we can discuss it.

[North Banrodesia]

I never said post, I said during.

Also, I think we should go with your idea. I might lead a rebellion to break segregation in Skyrim.

[New Armarzia]

I like both ideas, really like the brink-of-chaos setting, but also would love to rp the oblivion crisis in another provence. I am fine with either...but i think i would like to be a pro-imperial argonian who worships hircine (and thus is a werewolf) in either rp.

[Phalox]

Is this still going on.