Super Hero High (old OOC, search for new one)

[Ularn]

Scott is not amused by Axel's unnecessary assault of a pupil.

It's not assault! She's hypnotized! Just look up "Hold Person".
Right here.
Except the person is not aware, and tends to forget what happened around 10-15 seconds before they were held. Unless they have a powerful will, that is.

Depends a bit on your definition but broadly any non-consensual physical contact can count as assault. Extend the definition of "physical contact" to include casting spells or using powers on someone and Axel effectively just did the magical equivalent of pinning a person to the floor. And screwing with someone's memories is about as severe an invasion of bodily integrity as I can think of.

FYI: Don't argue these things with a law student

[Reythan]

It's not assault! She's hypnotized! Just look up "Hold Person".
Right here.
Except the person is not aware, and tends to forget what happened around 10-15 seconds before they were held. Unless they have a powerful will, that is.

Depends a bit on your definition but broadly any non-consensual physical contact can count as assault. Extend the definition of "physical contact" to include casting spells or using powers on someone and Axel effectively just did the magical equivalent of pinning a person to the floor. And screwing with someone's memories is about as severe an invasion of bodily integrity as I can think of.

FYI: Don't argue these things with a law student

By "screwing with memories", I mean "An effect of the spell that cannot be omitted without free-forming, which would endanger the entire station."
Even then, it's havig her forget something in her short-term memory, not erasing family memories or anything like that.

[Ularn]

Even then, it's havig her forget something in her short-term memory, not erasing family memories or anything like that.

And punching Axel in the face is just some light bruising; it's not fracturing bones or causing severe injuries or anything like that

[Camicon]

Even then, it's havig her forget something in her short-term memory, not erasing family memories or anything like that.

And punching Axel in the face is just some light bruising; it's not fracturing bones or causing severe injuries or anything like that

I thought you weren't supposed to resort to corporal punishment to solve your problems.

[Reythan]

Even then, it's havig her forget something in her short-term memory, not erasing family memories or anything like that.

And punching Axel in the face is just some light bruising; it's not fracturing bones or causing severe injuries or anything like that

Depends on how hard you punch. He could have erased significant parts, but that would be a different spell. And I will reiterate. Spells have compartemtalized effects. Because a spell has a memory effect, does not mean that it will automatically target deep memories. Weaker effects go for weaker memories. Also, about Scott's response. By now, she's forgotten some things. Including the conversation. IfI were you, Saune, RP that Rachel forgot about Scott, but not Axel.

[Hetland 2]

And punching Axel in the face is just some light bruising; it's not fracturing bones or causing severe injuries or anything like that

Depends on how hard you punch. He could have erased significant parts, but that would be a different spell. And I will reiterate. Spells have compartemtalized effects. Because a spell has a memory effect, does not mean that it will automatically target deep memories. Weaker effects go for weaker memories. Also, about Scott's response. By now, she's forgotten everything. Including the conversation. IC I were you, Saune, RP that Rachel forgot about Scott, but not Axel.

Hey on a similar note; How sturdy is Axel?

[Ularn]

And punching Axel in the face is just some light bruising; it's not fracturing bones or causing severe injuries or anything like that

Depends on how hard you punch. He could have erased significant parts, but that would be a different spell. And I will reiterate. Spells have compartemtalized effects. Because a spell has a memory effect, does not mean that it will automatically target deep memories. Weaker effects go for weaker memories. Also, about Scott's response. By now, she's forgotten some things. Including the conversation. IfI were you, Saune, RP that Rachel forgot about Scott, but not Axel.

The point I'm trying to make is that messing with a person's memories at all without their permission is an assault; it doesn't matter if the effect was minor; it's still disgraceful conduct for a teacher and a terrible way to deal with problem students - especially students whose only "crime" was being rude; Rachael didn't even threaten to harm Scott or Axel. Even if we set aside quibbling over the definition of assault, Scott has plenty of reasons to be angry at Axel for this.

[Reythan]

Depends on how hard you punch. He could have erased significant parts, but that would be a different spell. And I will reiterate. Spells have compartemtalized effects. Because a spell has a memory effect, does not mean that it will automatically target deep memories. Weaker effects go for weaker memories. Also, about Scott's response. By now, she's forgotten everything. Including the conversation. IC I were you, Saune, RP that Rachel forgot about Scott, but not Axel.

Hey on a similar note; How sturdy is Axel?

He can take a few hits, but he'll probably shield himself after the first punch.

[Hetland 2]

Hey on a similar note; How sturdy is Axel?

He can take a few hits, but he'll probably shield himself after the first punch.

I meant against hallucinogens. Sorry for leaving that out.

[Reythan]

Depends on how hard you punch. He could have erased significant parts, but that would be a different spell. And I will reiterate. Spells have compartemtalized effects. Because a spell has a memory effect, does not mean that it will automatically target deep memories. Weaker effects go for weaker memories. Also, about Scott's response. By now, she's forgotten some things. Including the conversation. IfI were you, Saune, RP that Rachel forgot about Scott, but not Axel.

The point I'm trying to make is that messing with a person's memories at all without their permission is an assault; it doesn't matter if the effect was minor; it's still disgraceful conduct for a teacher and a terrible way to deal with problem students - especially students whose only "crime" was being rude; Rachael didn't even threaten to harm Scott or Axel. Even if we set aside quibbling over the definition of assault, Scott has plenty of reasons to be angry at Axel for this.

And this is where I account for this with backstory!
Essentially, Axel was part of a special group of the Lictors. Some were soldiers, some were police, and some were spies. Axel was assigned duties to have certain individuals forget about certain occult events. He's essentially a MiB. Until the war, when the Council decided to lower the veil and make magic known. He was reassigned duties to keep people from knowing some of the more unscrupulous actions in what is known as the Shadow War, one that the Council fought with the most secret of government echelons, against thing more monstrous, more bestial and wrong than the vampires. The public cannot know of the War behind the war, and Axel was part of the coverup. He was quick to do that because that is his training. The Council is less concerned for things like that because they know that they have to use every advantage they have. To them, the ends justify the means. Sometimes, you have to get your hands dirty to ensure to survival of the human race.
He does feel bad about having to do this crap, but it's became a habit to surpress these feelings and remain focused on the mission. And his entire "I won't take crap from anyone" mentality is a product of the War he fought in. When you're considered lucky when only 4-5 people in your standard Lictor Battle Group of 10 die, you tend to not take stuff in your stride.

[Ularn]

The point I'm trying to make is that messing with a person's memories at all without their permission is an assault; it doesn't matter if the effect was minor; it's still disgraceful conduct for a teacher and a terrible way to deal with problem students - especially students whose only "crime" was being rude; Rachael didn't even threaten to harm Scott or Axel. Even if we set aside quibbling over the definition of assault, Scott has plenty of reasons to be angry at Axel for this.

And this is where I account for this with backstory!
Essentially, Axel was part of a special group of the Lictors. Some were soldiers, some were police, and some were spies. Axel was assigned duties to have certain individuals forget about certain occult events. He's essentially a MiB. Until the war, when the Council decided to lower the veil and make magic known. He was reassigned duties to keep people from knowing some of the more unscrupulous actions in what is known as the Shadow War, one that the Council fought with the most secret of government echelons, against thing more monstrous, more bestial and wrong than the vampires. The public cannot know of the War behind the war, and Axel was part of the coverup. He was quick to do that because that is his training. The Council is less concerned for things like that because they know that they have to use every advantage they have. To them, the ends justify the means. Sometimes, you have to get your hands dirty to ensure to survival of the human race.

Interesting, but none of it changes a thing about the situation at hand. Maybe you can fit it into your character development that Axel has to realise memory charms aren't the solution for everything, but in the mean time Scott is rightly pissed off at him

[Hetland 2]

Since Rey didn't answer me, I will assume he has the Axel has the immunities like everyone else. See: He's weak to them.

[Reythan]

Since Rey didn't answer me, I will assume he has the Axel has the immunities like everyone else. See: He's weak to them.

Sorry, got a bit caught up. If you catch him off guard, he can probably withstand the inundation of drugs for a few minutes, not because he's tough, but because his Lictor training and his experiences from the Shadow War tempered his willpower. He simply will not go down without a fight. But, if he's prepared, he'll have a few spells up his sleeve to del with toxins and drugs.

[Nakarisaune]

Except the person is not aware, and tends to forget what happened around 10-15 seconds before they were held.

By now, she's forgotten some things. Including the conversation. IfI were you, Saune, RP that Rachel forgot about Scott, but not Axel.

So what am I supposed to forget? (And if he's wiped the weaker memories, then it would be more likely she'd remember meeting someone she'd already heard quite a lot about than someone who barely talked to her and she didn't recognise.)

[Hetland 2]

Since Rey didn't answer me, I will assume he has the Axel has the immunities like everyone else. See: He's weak to them.

Sorry, got a bit caught up. If you catch him off guard, he can probably withstand the inundation of drugs for a few minutes, not because he's tough, but because his Lictor training and his experiences from the Shadow War tempered his willpower. He simply will not go down without a fight. But, if he's prepared, he'll have a few spells up his sleeve to del with toxins and drugs.

Its not a fight persay. Chram needs to inject someone and Axel was closest. This is a matter of her literally breaking because of the high pressure the toxins are stored at.

[Camicon]

FYI, soda cans don't usually have carbon in them.

Also, I have school then work right after. No posting for a good thirteen hours from now. *sadface*

[Reythan]

Except the person is not aware, and tends to forget what happened around 10-15 seconds before they were held.

By now, she's forgotten some things. Including the conversation. IfI were you, Saune, RP that Rachel forgot about Scott, but not Axel.

So what am I supposed to forget? (And if he's wiped the weaker memories, then it would be more likely she'd remember meeting someone she'd already heard quite a lot about than someone who barely talked to her and she didn't recognise.)

Well, the mind will have an imprint of the person who casted the spell. Also you'll remember Scott, but not that you met him in the Dorms.
Also, karma is a bitch.

[Jormengand]

and no transmuting entire buildings

Well, yeah, I can only transmute objects into similar or simple objects, or increase the amount of an object, and the general rule I'm trying to use is that the maximum weight of objects I can have transmuted at once is equivalent to my own weight, or a little more.

Of course, only later shall I turn the entire school into a battleship. (I'm joking...)

Anyway, I've some IC to catch up on...

[Spetznaz Assault Teams]

and no transmuting entire buildings

Well, yeah, I can only transmute objects into similar or simple objects, or increase the amount of an object, and the general rule I'm trying to use is that the maximum weight of objects I can have transmuted at once is equivalent to my own weight, or a little more.

Of course, only later shall I turn the entire school into a battleship. (I'm joking...)

Anyway, I've some IC to catch up on...

No. No you are not joking. I sense a disturbance in the force... it has to do with the god of fire... and jesus is he pissed

[Reythan]

Hey, Saune, who is Rachel talking to?

[Nakarisaune]

Hey, Saune, who is Rachel talking to?

Firstaria's teacher Daniel Mercury.

[Nakarisaune]

Firstaria, I'm a bit of an idiot, I have to admit, and I can't figure out what Daniel's saying to Rachael. I can haz explanation?

[Firstaria]

Firstaria, I'm a bit of an idiot, I have to admit, and I can't figure out what Daniel's saying to Rachael. I can haz explanation?

It's simple, Daniel practically asked how to stop a river to explain you that you don't need to pull the water to make it move, but you need to push it to create a path where water will move. Except when there is an opposite force, loke gravity.

[Nakarisaune]

Firstaria, I'm a bit of an idiot, I have to admit, and I can't figure out what Daniel's saying to Rachael. I can haz explanation?

It's simple, Daniel practically asked how to stop a river to explain you that you don't need to pull the water to make it move, but you need to push it to create a path where water will move. Except when there is an opposite force, loke gravity.

Ah thanks, I'll post now.

[Jormengand]

Saune, I'm surprised your character didn't notice Pedro's eyes IC'ly.