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Should we end the Sim?

End the Sim, we've already won anyway.
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Lets keep it going I want to kick some more simulated asses.
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Doesn't matter to me.
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Do we refer to a lance of Jenners as a Bruce?
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:59 pm

SaintB wrote:By my count (I have been keeping count) James should have about 5 or 6 full volleys and another half left for his missiles and about half his MG ammo.

I haven't been keeping track myself.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:07 pm

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SaintB wrote:By my count (I have been keeping count) James should have about 5 or 6 full volleys and another half left for his missiles and about half his MG ammo.

I haven't been keeping track myself.

you were loaded up with like 5-6 tons of LRM ammo as I recall...

EDIT: 5 tons, that was enough for 12 full salvos of missile fire and another 2 shots left. So you have like 7 and a half full volleys left. If you don't fire all launchers at once you can stay in the fight a long time yet at missile range
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:55 am

SaintB wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:I haven't been keeping track myself.

you were loaded up with like 5-6 tons of LRM ammo as I recall...

EDIT: 5 tons, that was enough for 12 full salvos of missile fire and another 2 shots left. So you have like 7 and a half full volleys left. If you don't fire all launchers at once you can stay in the fight a long time yet at missile range
Yeah... but isn't that sort of the fun of having LRM-20s? Firing them off all at once and making the battlefield nice and shady... at least for a moment anyway?

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SaintB wrote:Note to self, DO NOT put Timberwolf and Bitch in the same lance ever again.


^This.
Not to be that guy... but where exactly is Warhound going? The overhead map was included in my latest post for Kat, but just for a quick primer, there is no Southeast of the facility. Southeast means instant death for this simulated mission...
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:33 am

Northern Dominus wrote:
SaintB wrote:you were loaded up with like 5-6 tons of LRM ammo as I recall...

EDIT: 5 tons, that was enough for 12 full salvos of missile fire and another 2 shots left. So you have like 7 and a half full volleys left. If you don't fire all launchers at once you can stay in the fight a long time yet at missile range
Yeah... but isn't that sort of the fun of having LRM-20s? Firing them off all at once and making the battlefield nice and shady... at least for a moment anyway?

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^This.
Not to be that guy... but where exactly is Warhound going? The overhead map was included in my latest post for Kat, but just for a quick primer, there is no Southeast of the facility. Southeast means instant death for this simulated mission...


Link me that please, I will fix
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:38 am

Oblivion2 wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Yeah... but isn't that sort of the fun of having LRM-20s? Firing them off all at once and making the battlefield nice and shady... at least for a moment anyway?

Not to be that guy... but where exactly is Warhound going? The overhead map was included in my latest post for Kat, but just for a quick primer, there is no Southeast of the facility. Southeast means instant death for this simulated mission...


Link me that please, I will fix
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:42 am

I vaguely recall receiving the primer map at one point but because I couldn't find it in an easy to access area or anything I bullshitted it. So someone find it for me and then there shall be order in the chaos of my post :P
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:46 am

Oblivion2 wrote:I vaguely recall receiving the primer map at one point but because I couldn't find it in an easy to access area or anything I bullshitted it. So someone find it for me and then there shall be order in the chaos of my post :P
You can't access it? It's a photobucket file...
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:06 am

I meant at the time I wrote my post I couldn't find it Domi, lol
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Postby Ularn » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:21 am

SaintB wrote:Note to self, DO NOT put Timberwolf and Bitch in the same lance Star System ever again.

Fixed!

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Hard for anyone to hold down a job in this economy :P
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Post edited. New post inbound.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:43 am

Ularn wrote:
SaintB wrote:Note to self, DO NOT put Timberwolf and Bitch in the same lance Star System ever again.

Fixed!

Northern Dominus wrote:I'm not riffing holier-than-thou because the pope's retiring am I?

Hard for anyone to hold down a job in this economy :P
Speak for yourself, I have a pretty solid career... odd route I took to get there aside. :D


Oblivion2 wrote:Post edited. New post inbound.
Uh...not to nitpick...but I assume you mean northeasternmost tip of the forest in your latest post?
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:54 am

... It was four in the morning when I wrote that, but yes I do. Apologies, I'm at like 140ish hours at work this week. Edited again
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:27 am

Oblivion2 wrote:... It was four in the morning when I wrote that, but yes I do. Apologies, I'm at like 140ish hours at work this week. Edited again
Yikes, 140? Hopefully you get overtime at least...
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Major overtime. But yeah apologies on the quality of my posts and the lack of fucks to give, this shit doesn't seem to wanna slow down
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:47 am

Oblivion2 wrote:Major overtime. But yeah apologies on the quality of my posts and the lack of fucks to give, this shit doesn't seem to wanna slow down
Always fun, again I don't think anyone would fault you, and you at least have kept things going, which is always appreciated.
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:46 pm

I think if for some reason I lose the Cataphtact imma grab me a hammer hands :D
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:06 pm

Oblivion2 wrote:I think if for some reason I lose the Cataphtact imma grab me a hammer hands :D
Aaaaah but which variant, that is the question :D
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Postby Ularn » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:07 pm

Oblivion2 wrote:I think if for some reason I lose the Cataphtact imma grab me a hammer hands :D

If Jaz looses Bulldyke (and survives) I'm gonna see if I can get her a Lupus. It will be called Laurie, for reasons which may be clear depending on your taste in bitchin' medical dramas. If she doesn't survive, my next character's getting a Wraith.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:35 pm

Ularn wrote:
Oblivion2 wrote:I think if for some reason I lose the Cataphtact imma grab me a hammer hands :D

If Jaz looses Bulldyke (and survives) I'm gonna see if I can get her a Lupus. It will be called Laurie, for reasons which may be clear depending on your taste in bitchin' medical dramas. If she doesn't survive, my next character's getting a Wraith.
...so if one of her lancemates gets a rotund mech do they have to call it the Fry?

And if the Bulldyke is destroyed (although it would be much cooler to see it torn up then rebuilt...IMHO :P), why go with the Lupus? Why not go bigger and badder with an O-Bakemono?
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:45 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Oblivion2 wrote:I think if for some reason I lose the Cataphtact imma grab me a hammer hands :D
Aaaaah but which variant, that is the question :D


Probably the standard or the 4D. Maybe swap the 4D out with some endo steel and ferro fibrous in order to grab some more AC/10 ammo or
Heat sinks or atleast up them to doubles. I'm big on custom 'Mechs XD
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:58 pm

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Northern Dominus wrote:Aaaaah but which variant, that is the question :D


Probably the standard or the 4D. Maybe swap the 4D out with some endo steel and ferro fibrous in order to grab some more AC/10 ammo or
Heat sinks or atleast up them to doubles. I'm big on custom 'Mechs XD
I've always wondered about that sort of weight-saving. I mean sure, Endo-Steel, Ferro-Fiberous and XL engines on their own can be pretty good weight savers... but is the decreased critical slot availability worth implementing more than one of those weight-saving measures? I mean sure you can add a big "headchopper" weapon in a relatively smaller mech, but then how much does a mech give up in firepower when it can't mount as many smaller weapons or heat dissipation or electronic warfare?

Seems like whole-hog weight saving should be left to mechs that are 70 tons and up...
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Postby Ularn » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:01 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Ularn wrote:If Jaz looses Bulldyke (and survives) I'm gonna see if I can get her a Lupus. It will be called Laurie, for reasons which may be clear depending on your taste in bitchin' medical dramas. If she doesn't survive, my next character's getting a Wraith.
...so if one of her lancemates gets a rotund mech do they have to call it the Fry?

And if the Bulldyke is destroyed (although it would be much cooler to see it torn up then rebuilt...IMHO :P), why go with the Lupus? Why not go bigger and badder with an O-Bakemono?

Meh, the OBK looks cool but it just seems like an up-armoured C-3 Catapult minus the jumpjets, whereas the Lupus is like Bulldyke on steroids; lighter, faster and with better guns and an ECM suite for extra sneak. And since it's an omnimech we can do all sorts of tinkering with the loadout for funsies. Admittedly the ammo capacity takes a bit of a beating but overall it's only half a ton less per launcher than The C4 Catapult.
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:02 pm

Hammerhands is a 75 I think so it works. AC/10s arnt that big, medium lasers surely arnt, PPC would probably be on par with the SRM-6 due to ammo. So at that point I'd imagine you'd have plenty of crit slots left to slap either endo or ferro on it in order to fit either more heat sinks, up them to double, or add more AC/10 ammo for extended engagements
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Postby Northern Dominus » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:36 pm

Ularn wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:...so if one of her lancemates gets a rotund mech do they have to call it the Fry?

And if the Bulldyke is destroyed (although it would be much cooler to see it torn up then rebuilt...IMHO :P), why go with the Lupus? Why not go bigger and badder with an O-Bakemono?

Meh, the OBK looks cool but it just seems like an up-armoured C-3 Catapult minus the jumpjets, whereas the Lupus is like Bulldyke on steroids; lighter, faster and with better guns and an ECM suite for extra sneak. And since it's an omnimech we can do all sorts of tinkering with the loadout for funsies. Admittedly the ammo capacity takes a bit of a beating but overall it's only half a ton less per launcher than The C4 Catapult.
Ah, but you see, the O-Bakemono is a full 20 tons heavier than Catapult. Moreover, the O-Bakemono is used by Comstar, so theoretically, the Word of Blake could have their hands on a few as well.

It's also well-known that the Blakists really glomed onto MML technology. And am MML-9 launcher weighs 9 tons less and takes up 10 less critical slots than an Arrow IV artillery launcher.

So strip out the Arrow IV launchers and the 6 tons of ammo that feed those launchers, and suddenly with a little imagination the O-Bakemono goes from a simple copy of the Naga clan mech to something with a lot more tactical options without any decrease in firepower...and probably an increase in accuracy if one includes Artemis IV FCS'.

Plus, here's the other thing: The Lupus is clan tech. Video games aside apparently clan tech isn't as common as the Mechwarrior IV series would have one believe.

Oblivion2 wrote:Hammerhands is a 75 I think so it works. AC/10s arnt that big, medium lasers surely arnt, PPC would probably be on par with the SRM-6 due to ammo. So at that point I'd imagine you'd have plenty of crit slots left to slap either endo or ferro on it in order to fit either more heat sinks, up them to double, or add more AC/10 ammo for extended engagements
Okay, so you have AC/10's and ammo...what else would this mech utilize?
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Postby SaintB » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:24 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Oblivion2 wrote:
Probably the standard or the 4D. Maybe swap the 4D out with some endo steel and ferro fibrous in order to grab some more AC/10 ammo or
Heat sinks or atleast up them to doubles. I'm big on custom 'Mechs XD
I've always wondered about that sort of weight-saving. I mean sure, Endo-Steel, Ferro-Fiberous and XL engines on their own can be pretty good weight savers... but is the decreased critical slot availability worth implementing more than one of those weight-saving measures? I mean sure you can add a big "headchopper" weapon in a relatively smaller mech, but then how much does a mech give up in firepower when it can't mount as many smaller weapons or heat dissipation or electronic warfare?

Seems like whole-hog weight saving should be left to mechs that are 70 tons and up...

I personally think it works better one smaller 'mechs, most of them aren't heavy enough to carry some of the biggest weapons even if they had a lot of empty space on them anyway. The extra tonnage usually goes to maximizing armor coverage and top speed and such which makes them better at surviving.
Northern Dominus wrote:Plus, here's the other thing: The Lupus is clan tech. Video games aside apparently clan tech isn't as common as the Mechwarrior IV series would have one believe.

Clan tech is not that rare, its the clan Omnimech's that are. Truthfully a lot of the 'mechs the clans actually use aren't any different from the pre-succession wars era. If its before 2784 than it is also found in the clan military with Star League Era technology and makes up the second line and garrison forces.
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