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Postby Monfrox » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:27 am

Nice quad post. But still, Patton doesn't have to be Spec Ops, he commanded troops in World Wars 1 and 2. The guy is to badass too be Spec Ops. But still, an opinion is an opinion is an opinion is an opinion is an opinoin is an opinion.....
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Monfrox wrote:Nice quad post. But still, Patton doesn't have to be Spec Ops, he commanded troops in World Wars 1 and 2. The guy is to badass too be Spec Ops. But still, an opinion is an opinion is an opinion is an opinion is an opinoin is an opinion.....

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Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.


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Postby Monfrox » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:53 am

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Monfrox wrote:Nice quad post. But still, Patton doesn't have to be Spec Ops, he commanded troops in World Wars 1 and 2. The guy is to badass too be Spec Ops. But still, an opinion is an opinion is an opinion is an opinion is an opinoin is an opinion.....

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Also, I nearly forgort, Ernest Hemingway must be at the top of any list cause the Most Interesting Man in the World commercials were made off him.

You've gone from comparing apples to oranges, to apples to Paleolithic Hunter-Gatherer groups....
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Postby Ende » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:06 pm

I'm considering just throwing everybody into the first mission without any training just to make things more interesting.

Thoughts?

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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:11 pm

Ende wrote:I'm considering just throwing everybody into the first mission without any training just to make things more interesting.

Thoughts?

No, it wouldn't make any sense. Sure, our characters can all march, shoot and kill a few terrorists but considering that this is UNIT and consists of soldiers from around the world trained to march in a different away, trained with different weapons and with different tactics, it doesn't works.

But maybe a sudden raid on the base may make more sense, by something like Cybermen, Ice Warriors, Silurians or whatever.
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Postby Spetznaz Assault Teams » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:13 pm

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Ende wrote:I'm considering just throwing everybody into the first mission without any training just to make things more interesting.

Thoughts?

No, it wouldn't make any sense. Sure, our characters can all march, shoot and kill a few terrorists but considering that this is UNIT and consists of soldiers from around the world trained to march in a different away, trained with different weapons and with different tactics, it doesn't works.

But maybe a sudden raid on the base may make more sense, by something like Cybermen, Ice Warriors, Silurians or whatever.


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Postby Kouralia » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:14 pm

Ende wrote:I'm considering just throwing everybody into the first mission without any training just to make things more interesting.

Thoughts?

No real reason for training OOC: we are all good RPers (as far as I know. I have been told that I am, so I will accept that, but challenge me if you feel I cannot classify myself as 'good'). Ic'ly the reasons would be: 1) learn to work together and 2) your training is insignificant, ours is better and is required for line duties in U.N.I.T.. (I'm summarising here)

1) is not gonna be accomplished in one training session.
2) is not either. And is probably IC'ly debunk-able by the behaviour of the two privates in the Sontaran Stratagem, when they randomly go into some basement guarded by freaky men and with weird stuff inside it. And are swayed into doing this supremely stupid act by the thought of promotion, and (at first) a desire to assert authority over the mind-controlled guards.

So, IC'ly you'd have to really have months of training for any effect which would be desired by training the men (and women). All the training will do is OOC'ly make people wait longer before joining the RP (the second squad under Jor) or actually getting in some action (everyone else). If you want to avoid compromising the RP's already established 'we're gonna do training' idea through some ret-conning, then you can always say that an emergency has occurred and training is cancelled until further notice. Then, after the mission, you say everyone did so well that there's no reason to do training.

That's my idea.
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Postby AETEN II » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:17 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Ende wrote:I'm considering just throwing everybody into the first mission without any training just to make things more interesting.

Thoughts?

No real reason for training OOC: we are all good RPers (as far as I know. I have been told that I am, so I will accept that, but challenge me if you feel I cannot classify myself as 'good'). Ic'ly the reasons would be: 1) learn to work together and 2) your training is insignificant, ours is better and is required for line duties in U.N.I.T.. (I'm summarising here)

1) is not gonna be accomplished in one training session.
2) is not either. And is probably IC'ly debunk-able by the behaviour of the two privates in the Sontaran Stratagem, when they randomly go into some basement guarded by freaky men and with weird stuff inside it. And are swayed into doing this supremely stupid act by the thought of promotion, and (at first) a desire to assert authority over the mind-controlled guards.

So, IC'ly you'd have to really have months of training for any effect which would be desired by training the men (and women). All the training will do is OOC'ly make people wait longer before joining the RP (the second squad under Jor) or actually getting in some action (everyone else). If you want to avoid compromising the RP's already established 'we're gonna do training' idea through some ret-conning, then you can always say that an emergency has occurred and training is cancelled until further notice. Then, after the mission, you say everyone did so well that there's no reason to do training.

That's my idea.

Not to mention Greene would likely just short-circuit the traps and say
'There. Now I can just bunny-hop through the destroyed million dollar traps, you said find a way through it, didn't you?'
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Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.


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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:30 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Ende wrote:I'm considering just throwing everybody into the first mission without any training just to make things more interesting.

Thoughts?

No, it wouldn't make any sense. Sure, our characters can all march, shoot and kill a few terrorists but considering that this is UNIT and consists of soldiers from around the world trained to march in a different away, trained with different weapons and with different tactics, it doesn't works.

But maybe a sudden raid on the base may make more sense, by something like Cybermen, Ice Warriors, Silurians or whatever.


Ice Warriors. Definitely Ice Warriors.
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Postby Ende » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:41 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:No, it wouldn't make any sense. Sure, our characters can all march, shoot and kill a few terrorists but considering that this is UNIT and consists of soldiers from around the world trained to march in a different away, trained with different weapons and with different tactics, it doesn't works.

But maybe a sudden raid on the base may make more sense, by something like Cybermen, Ice Warriors, Silurians or whatever.


Ice Warriors. Definitely Ice Warriors.

Ice Warriors? Their name makes no sense. Aren't they reptilian humanoids located on Mars? Why would they invade or attack UNIT headquarters?

I've always been a much larger fan of Cybermen. They're cool. Except for the fact that they've become complete pushovers recently. But yeah, I'm still unsure about cutting training. Some more input would be nice.

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:42 pm

Ende wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Ice Warriors. Definitely Ice Warriors.

Ice Warriors? Their name makes no sense. Aren't they reptilian humanoids located on Mars? Why would they invade or attack UNIT headquarters?

I've always been a much larger fan of Cybermen. They're cool. Except for the fact that they've become complete pushovers recently. But yeah, I'm still unsure about cutting training. Some more input would be nice.


Ice Warriors are awesome. They're like Cybermen, but instead of converting, they shoot you.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:42 pm

AETEN II wrote:Not to mention Greene would likely just short-circuit the traps and say
'There. Now I can just bunny-hop through the destroyed million dollar traps, you said find a way through it, didn't you?'
One of my possible traps would result in him in a lot of pain... (not strictly a trap, but nvm)
Wolfmanne wrote:No, it wouldn't make any sense. Sure, our characters can all march, shoot and kill a few terrorists but considering that this is UNIT and consists of soldiers from around the world trained to march in a different away, trained with different weapons and with different tactics, it doesn't works.

But maybe a sudden raid on the base may make more sense, by something like Cybermen, Ice Warriors, Silurians or whatever.

Ah, but this would take months of training. We'd (I'm guessing, considering we're in Britain) probably have to do both Parts 1 and 2 of the British army infantry course, then any applicable Tier 3 training (maybe I just fucked up a few tech terms, but what ev.).

That's (I believe) the T1 = everyone, T2 = Infantry, T3 = any specialisations, like para or driving. That's something like a year to do it all, if we wanted to do it then we'd need to skip the whole thing and do a 'One Year later...' moment. Noone would have stuck with the RP through RPing a full Infantry training course.

I partially agree with the bottom, but maybe an attack somewhere else? U.N.I.T. HQ is too important to have an attack on it used up as a plot-point now. OP just look up and try to find something in the UK with could be attacked, then a QRF needs to be deployed to deal with it. (Team 1, then Team 2). Wathgill Camp near Catterick could be viable. It's isolated and is a small training facility (IRL used for Army Cadet camps, among other things), you could twist it to anything you want, and it's so small you'll never need to think about accidently going there again. (I've been there so I can provide some in detail info about it)
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:45 pm

Kouralia wrote:
AETEN II wrote:Not to mention Greene would likely just short-circuit the traps and say
'There. Now I can just bunny-hop through the destroyed million dollar traps, you said find a way through it, didn't you?'
One of my possible traps would result in him in a lot of pain... (not strictly a trap, but nvm)
Wolfmanne wrote:No, it wouldn't make any sense. Sure, our characters can all march, shoot and kill a few terrorists but considering that this is UNIT and consists of soldiers from around the world trained to march in a different away, trained with different weapons and with different tactics, it doesn't works.

But maybe a sudden raid on the base may make more sense, by something like Cybermen, Ice Warriors, Silurians or whatever.

Ah, but this would take months of training. We'd (I'm guessing, considering we're in Britain) probably have to do both Parts 1 and 2 of the British army infantry course, then any applicable Tier 3 training (maybe I just fucked up a few tech terms, but what ev.).

That's (I believe) the T1 = everyone, T2 = Infantry, T3 = any specialisations, like para or driving. That's something like a year to do it all, if we wanted to do it then we'd need to skip the whole thing and do a 'One Year later...' moment. Noone would have stuck with the RP through RPing a full Infantry training course.

I partially agree with the bottom, but maybe an attack somewhere else? U.N.I.T. HQ is too important to have an attack on it used up as a plot-point now. OP just look up and try to find something in the UK with could be attacked, then a QRF needs to be deployed to deal with it. (Team 1, then Team 2). Wathgill Camp near Catterick could be viable. It's isolated and is a small training facility (IRL used for Army Cadet camps, among other things), you could twist it to anything you want, and it's so small you'll never need to think about accidently going there again. (I've been there so I can provide some in detail info about it)


Attack Wales. They never get attacked.
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Postby Ende » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:56 pm

I'm at an impasse right now.

I had such a beautiful plot.

But now I have an incredible urge to throw it in the garbage and ram full on ahead with my new one, which skips training completely and jumpstarts a completely new plot. I can't post until I choose one, though.

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Postby Elipida » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:31 pm

Ende wrote:I'm at an impasse right now.

I had such a beautiful plot.

But now I have an incredible urge to throw it in the garbage and ram full on ahead with my new one, which skips training completely and jumpstarts a completely new plot. I can't post until I choose one, though.


relax man. Almost every RP I've written never went the way i initially wanted it to.

sometimes i had someone who wanted to be part of the enemy fraction

sometimes i got godmoders, extremely short posts, illiterate idiots, or all of the above

that's why i only build an outline and improvise throughout the story, not force my RPers through a very linear and inflexible plot

Just don't do what Robolution (or whatever his name is) did. gave the RPers too much freedom and everyone started raiding each other's bases
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Postby Elipida » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:33 pm

But what i'd like to see is while we're training somewhere in a remote forest, a mistake caused the location of the training area to be transmitted and enemies raided the location.

and we go try to escape while crawling in knee-high mud avoiding as much contact as possible because we're all using training ammo
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Postby Monfrox » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:25 pm

Ende wrote:I'm at an impasse right now.

I had such a beautiful plot.

But now I have an incredible urge to throw it in the garbage and ram full on ahead with my new one, which skips training completely and jumpstarts a completely new plot. I can't post until I choose one, though.

Need advice? Why not Monfrox?
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:27 pm

Monfrox wrote:
Ende wrote:I'm at an impasse right now.

I had such a beautiful plot.

But now I have an incredible urge to throw it in the garbage and ram full on ahead with my new one, which skips training completely and jumpstarts a completely new plot. I can't post until I choose one, though.

Need advice? Why not Monfrox?


Because the co-OP is already a successful OP of two long-running RP's?
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Postby Monfrox » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:31 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Monfrox wrote:Need advice? Why not Monfrox?


Because the co-OP is already a successful OP of two long-running RP's?

Are you saying that I'm a bad RPer? Are you saying that my suggestions are stupid? Well..that's not the point....umm.....I forgot where I was going with this. Quick, Charlie! Feed me another witty comeback!
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Postby Kowloon-California » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:22 pm

Hmm, the idea of a training incident gone wrong sounds interesting to me.

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Postby Wolfmanne » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:08 am

Most of us will already be airborne trained, been in the special forces and would have fought someone. My character has already been serving UNIT for several years so I don't understand why he would need to train. It would just be about adapting what we have already learnt to combat against potential enemies. For instance it is no point using standard SAS tactics against a Dalek; it will kill you. You need to use attrition tactics and eventually try and disable it. I don't think training would take too long but it will still have to take months. Can't we just timeskip to the first mission, which can be a sudden raid on the training facility?

Also, what will be the squad called?
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Wolfmanne wrote:Most of us will already be airborne trained, been in the special forces and would have fought someone. My character has already been serving UNIT for several years so I don't understand why he would need to train. It would just be about adapting what we have already learnt to combat against potential enemies. For instance it is no point using standard SAS tactics against a Dalek; it will kill you. You need to use attrition tactics and eventually try and disable it. I don't think training would take too long but it will still have to take months. Can't we just timeskip to the first mission, which can be a sudden raid on the training facility?

Also, what will be the squad called?


"Squad We Have a Goddamn Silent"
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:22 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Most of us will already be airborne trained, been in the special forces and would have fought someone. My character has already been serving UNIT for several years so I don't understand why he would need to train. It would just be about adapting what we have already learnt to combat against potential enemies. For instance it is no point using standard SAS tactics against a Dalek; it will kill you. You need to use attrition tactics and eventually try and disable it. I don't think training would take too long but it will still have to take months. Can't we just timeskip to the first mission, which can be a sudden raid on the training facility?

Also, what will be the squad called?


"Squad We Have a Goddamn Silent"

Whenever Harper hears that he'll probably freak out. Things that will make him freak out and/or suffer a wild mood swing:

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