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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:21 pm
by Lunas Legion
Now. I could take Germany, or I could take China. The only question is which.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:25 pm
by Jade Confederacy
Valkstadt wrote:ACCEPTED
Smart move going with Roosevelt.

I would like to bump up the military later if possible. The US would most likely fight a two front war and would need to have more troops than the CSA. Its either a 5:3.5 ratio or a 7:5 ratio of military troops.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:38 pm
by Valkstadt
Jade Confederacy wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:ACCEPTED
Smart move going with Roosevelt.

I would like to bump up the military later if possible. The US would most likely fight a two front war and would need to have more troops than the CSA. Its either a 5:3.5 ratio or a 7:5 ratio of military troops.

My population is a little higher than IRL because of Cuba, Sonora and Chihuahua. Also the US didn't have as much immigrants because it was not as attractive since the US was defeated in the Civil War and had to take time to rebuild. Also Great Britain won't be a threat due to the war in Europe. Maybe Canada will send troops but it shouldn't be too many people.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:42 pm
by Irona
Valkstadt wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:I would like to bump up the military later if possible. The US would most likely fight a two front war and would need to have more troops than the CSA. Its either a 5:3.5 ratio or a 7:5 ratio of military troops.

My population is a little higher than IRL because of Cuba, Sonora and Chihuahua. Also the US didn't have as much immigrants because it was not as attractive since the US was defeated in the Civil War and had to take time to rebuild. Also Great Britain won't be a threat due to the war in Europe. Maybe Canada will send troops but it shouldn't be too many people.


Canada is still ESSENTIALLY a British colony, has its semi-independence but not complete yet. But yeah the main war will be in europe for the UK, still I'd watch the north :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:47 pm
by Valkstadt
Irona wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:My population is a little higher than IRL because of Cuba, Sonora and Chihuahua. Also the US didn't have as much immigrants because it was not as attractive since the US was defeated in the Civil War and had to take time to rebuild. Also Great Britain won't be a threat due to the war in Europe. Maybe Canada will send troops but it shouldn't be too many people.


Canada is still ESSENTIALLY a British colony, has its semi-independence but not complete yet. But yeah the main war will be in europe for the UK, still I'd watch the north :roll:

Yeah I might have to watch out for Mexico. They could cause some problems trying to take back lost lands.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:50 pm
by Irona
Well I suppose both Americas can fight a two front war..

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:51 pm
by Irona
Plus once the blockade is in Germany won't be able to help the US

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:52 pm
by Jade Confederacy
Valkstadt wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:I would like to bump up the military later if possible. The US would most likely fight a two front war and would need to have more troops than the CSA. Its either a 5:3.5 ratio or a 7:5 ratio of military troops.

My population is a little higher than IRL because of Cuba, Sonora and Chihuahua. Also the US didn't have as much immigrants because it was not as attractive since the US was defeated in the Civil War and had to take time to rebuild. Also Great Britain won't be a threat due to the war in Europe. Maybe Canada will send troops but it shouldn't be too many people.

Immigration helped, but most American population growth was natural. Even with added populations in Cuba and northern Mexico, the northern states would still be more industrialized and more populous due to abundance of coal and good farmland.The US needs the extra troops if it want to fight both the CSA and British Canada at the same time. Otherwise, the US declaring war on two enemies without close allies wouldn't make much sense.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:54 pm
by Valkstadt
Irona wrote:Well I suppose both Americas can fight a two front war..

Haha thats gonna suck.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:59 pm
by Valkstadt
Jade Confederacy wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:My population is a little higher than IRL because of Cuba, Sonora and Chihuahua. Also the US didn't have as much immigrants because it was not as attractive since the US was defeated in the Civil War and had to take time to rebuild. Also Great Britain won't be a threat due to the war in Europe. Maybe Canada will send troops but it shouldn't be too many people.

Immigration helped, but most American population growth was natural. Even with added populations in Cuba and northern Mexico, the northern states would still be more industrialized and more populous due to abundance of coal and good farmland.The US needs the extra troops if it want to fight both the CSA and British Canada at the same time. Otherwise, the US declaring war on two enemies without close allies wouldn't make much sense.

True, true. I'd say a 10:8.5 ratio would be good. Germany attacked Russia even though they were much bigger and had to fight a two front war.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:02 pm
by Irona
In Russia whole squads shared a gun :eyebrow:

Russia was still an agricultural nation, Germany was heavily Industrialized.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:04 pm
by Jade Confederacy
Valkstadt wrote:True, true. I'd say a 10:8.5 ratio would be good. Germany attacked Russia even though they were much bigger and had to fight a two front war.

Germany thought it had AH and the Ottomans to help deal with Russia.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:06 pm
by Lunas Legion
Jade Confederacy wrote:
Valkstadt wrote:True, true. I'd say a 10:8.5 ratio would be good. Germany attacked Russia even though they were much bigger and had to fight a two front war.

Germany thought it had AH and the Ottomans to help deal with Russia.


AH got distracted by Romania and Italy. Ottoman kebab tried to take the Causcaus, but failed.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:22 pm
by Irona
Wow just looked at the map, UK own Hawaii? As the sandwich isles??

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:17 pm
by Valkstadt
Irona wrote:Wow just looked at the map, UK own Hawaii? As the sandwich isles??

Yep. The US had to worry about other stuff I guess. Russia still has Alaska too.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:22 pm
by Valkstadt
Lunas Legion wrote:
Jade Confederacy wrote:Germany thought it had AH and the Ottomans to help deal with Russia.


AH got distracted by Romania and Italy. Ottoman kebab tried to take the Causcaus, but failed.

Yeah the Ottomans have potential to really do something. Revive empire of old. They just have to avoid sucking haha.Take the Suez and hold off the British while kicking some ass against Russia.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:23 pm
by Valkstadt
We need Germany, France, Italy and the Ottomans to start. I can handle the rest of em.
BTW if anyone is good at making maps that would help a lot. I can't do it on my mac because its a school computer and the program I would use can't be installed. The world map doesn't show Arizona and New Mexico as Confederate. I also won't be able to show territorial gains.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:21 pm
by Yalos
I can't wait to take some US possessions away by force! Or the same with the Confederates, depending on who I'm aligned with.
In short, I have lots I could potentially gain by sitting back and waiting.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:27 pm
by Jade Confederacy
Yalos wrote:I can't wait to take some US possessions away by force! Or the same with the Confederates, depending on who I'm aligned with.
In short, I have lots I could potentially gain by sitting back and waiting.

Since the US never had its war with Spain, you'll be mostly against Spain, UK and France

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:32 pm
by Valkstadt
Jade Confederacy wrote:
Yalos wrote:I can't wait to take some US possessions away by force! Or the same with the Confederates, depending on who I'm aligned with.
In short, I have lots I could potentially gain by sitting back and waiting.

Since the US never had its war with Spain, you'll be mostly against Spain, UK and France

Yeah I don't see anything you would want unless it was some of mainland America. You can expect one hell of a fight for that :p

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:35 pm
by Prevnina
Who do we still need?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:39 pm
by Valkstadt
Prevnina wrote:Who do we still need?

Germany, France, Italy and the Ottomans.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:44 pm
by Yalos
Actually, Italy and Ottomans can probably wait, seeing as they didn't contribute as much to the early war.

We could probably start with just France and Germany.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:51 pm
by Valkstadt
Yalos wrote:Actually, Italy and Ottomans can probably wait, seeing as they didn't contribute as much to the early war.

We could probably start with just France and Germany.

Yeah. I'm recruiting some old friends. I haven't been on NS in over a year haha.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:28 pm
by Valkstadt
If anybody knows anyone that wants to joins let them know we have spots open!