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Postby Prusslandia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:22 pm

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Prusslandia wrote:How so ? Prussia was one.

Incorrect. Prussia was just a theocracy.

Well, the tech wouldn't be super advanced, with shiny holograms and shite. More like this.

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Postby Shnercropolis » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:24 pm

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Shnercropolis wrote:Hokay.

So what are the events of the war?

1) gassing of Berlin is half-successful, but does not gain significant foothold in Prussia
2) several nuclear EMP strikes are made, ruining most civilian infrastructure
3) robotic troops land in France, war escalates to global scale, spawning various theatres
4) after years of constant fighting, both sides are mostly depleted of resources
5) biological warfare breaks out en masse, killing massive amounts of the population
6) robotic soldiers storm Berlin, side-wars slowly peter out


Seems fine to me.

You guys okay with the idea of humans and an alien species also native to the Solar system co-existing? I'd really like to have that happening, because I sense a trilogy developing here.

Maybe we could have a thing like Rama, where an alien ship passes through the system. But then it gets shot down and the survivors meet up with humans.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:24 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Incorrect. Prussia was just a theocracy.

Well, the tech wouldn't be super advanced, with shiny holograms and shite. More like this.

http://wh40kart.im/_images/b2c13d7db65d ... 441a5d.jpg

They are both incompatible.

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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:24 pm

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Great Nepal wrote:Cool, can we have the war eventually going global to cause even more damage ecologically? The war, by this time termed the true great war to distinguish it from other relatively minor conflicts could have killed at least twenty five of global population, fifty percent land being uninhabitable, and mutants roaming these parts? Most of the countries could have unofficially abandoned Earth going for mars or moon...

I think the damage wouldn't be this severe.

Not in war limited between three of us and Prussia. If rest of world jumps in bandwagon, and essentially we have a true world war with biochemical agents as well as nuclear weapons flying around then it would be very bad.

Photana wrote:Sounds cool. Maybe mainline humans have evacuated into space, leave the mutants to fight over the remains of technological society?
I may add that in, seeing as the next RP I'm planning on having the focus be on the inhabited bodies of the solar system. Not all of which are inhabited by humans.

Yea that and those that did not evacuate to space built walls to separate the irradiated areas thus leaving the mutants to fight there.
How about setting Venus and Mars as primary location where evacuated countries went to; in both of which there is a native species (on surface in case of Venus and under the surface in case of mars) that do not appreciate the new visitors...
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:25 pm

Photana wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:Hokay.

So what are the events of the war?

1) gassing of Berlin is half-successful, but does not gain significant foothold in Prussia
2) several nuclear EMP strikes are made, ruining most civilian infrastructure
3) robotic troops land in France, war escalates to global scale, spawning various theatres
4) after years of constant fighting, both sides are mostly depleted of resources
5) biological warfare breaks out en masse, killing massive amounts of the population
6) robotic soldiers storm Berlin, side-wars slowly peter out


Seems fine to me.

You guys okay with the idea of humans and an alien species also native to the Solar system co-existing? I'd really like to have that happening, because I sense a trilogy developing here.

Yes, of course!

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:25 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I think the damage wouldn't be this severe.

Not in war limited between three of us and Prussia. If rest of world jumps in bandwagon, and essentially we have a true world war with biochemical agents as well as nuclear weapons flying around then it would be very bad.

Photana wrote:Sounds cool. Maybe mainline humans have evacuated into space, leave the mutants to fight over the remains of technological society?
I may add that in, seeing as the next RP I'm planning on having the focus be on the inhabited bodies of the solar system. Not all of which are inhabited by humans.

Yea that and those that did not evacuate to space built walls to separate the irradiated areas thus leaving the mutants to fight there.
How about setting Venus and Mars as primary location where evacuated countries went to; in both of which there is a native species (on surface in case of Venus and under the surface in case of mars) that do not appreciate the new visitors...

None of these planets have the conditions to support life, especially Venus.

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Postby Shnercropolis » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:26 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Not in war limited between three of us and Prussia. If rest of world jumps in bandwagon, and essentially we have a true world war with biochemical agents as well as nuclear weapons flying around then it would be very bad.


Yea that and those that did not evacuate to space built walls to separate the irradiated areas thus leaving the mutants to fight there.
How about setting Venus and Mars as primary location where evacuated countries went to; in both of which there is a native species (on surface in case of Venus and under the surface in case of mars) that do not appreciate the new visitors...

None of these planets have the conditions to support life, especially Venus.

There are archaeabacteria which could conceivably live on either.
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Postby Prusslandia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:26 pm

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Prusslandia wrote:Well, the tech wouldn't be super advanced, with shiny holograms and shite. More like this.

http://wh40kart.im/_images/b2c13d7db65d ... 441a5d.jpg

They are both incompatible.

Well, what about a Feudal Technocracy ?
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:28 pm

Reserving North African coast, Egypt, Turkey, Syria and the Levant, the Arabian peninsula, and Iran. I will be making an app for a new Ottoman Empire, I understand it will need to be good since I'm claiming so much.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:28 pm

Senkaku wrote:Reserving North African coast, Egypt, Turkey, Syria and the Levant, the Arabian peninsula, and Iran. I will be making an app for a new Ottoman Empire, I understand it will need to be good since I'm claiming so much.

Most of that is claimed, and this RP has been declared dead anyway, we're just planning for the next one.
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:30 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:None of these planets have the conditions to support life, especially Venus.

Venus does have condition to support human, 50 km above surface being most earth like in entire solar system.
In mars you would need to life in bio domes but it would be feasible.

As for native life, we can not be certain. I mean you are making assumption that this alien life will be similar to human and require human like condition for existence: there is no reason why this life could not be silicon based for instance. Alternatively it too could be non native life form, landing there few centuries ago establishing artificial structures for them.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:32 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:None of these planets have the conditions to support life, especially Venus.

Venus does have condition to support human, 50 km above surface being most earth like in entire solar system.

If you're okay with eternal hurricane-force winds and sulfuric acid in the atmosphere, sure.
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Postby Photana » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:33 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Photana wrote:
Seems fine to me.

You guys okay with the idea of humans and an alien species also native to the Solar system co-existing? I'd really like to have that happening, because I sense a trilogy developing here.

Maybe we could have a thing like Rama, where an alien ship passes through the system. But then it gets shot down and the survivors meet up with humans.


I was thinking more like humans discovering intelligent colonial bacteria underneath the icy shell of Europa.
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Postby Prusslandia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:34 pm

Photana, would a Feudal Technocracy be possible ?
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Postby Shnercropolis » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:35 pm

Photana wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:Maybe we could have a thing like Rama, where an alien ship passes through the system. But then it gets shot down and the survivors meet up with humans.


I was thinking more like humans discovering intelligent colonial bacteria underneath the icy shell of Europa.

intelligent slime molds. I like it.
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Postby Photana » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:37 pm

Prusslandia wrote:Photana, would a Feudal Technocracy be possible ?

Not in the new RP, because Neo-feudalism has been supplanted by Neo-absolutism, but a Technocratic Absolute Monarchy would be completely fine.
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Postby Photana » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:39 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Photana wrote:
I was thinking more like humans discovering intelligent colonial bacteria underneath the icy shell of Europa.

intelligent slime molds. I like it.

I'm thinking that they communicate via color-changing, because it's dark with no light, and that these hive-minded slime mold eat chemicals, because photosynthesis is impossible, and I doubt fishes would be living without algae.
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Postby Prusslandia » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:40 pm

Photana wrote:
Prusslandia wrote:Photana, would a Feudal Technocracy be possible ?

Not in the new RP, because Neo-feudalism has been supplanted by Neo-absolutism, but a Technocratic Absolute Monarchy would be completely fine.

Could it be incredibly Gothic, with the tech being dirty and industrial even though it is advanced, and with heavy religious undertones. An example if what an army of said country would look like.
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Postby Photana » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:44 pm

Prusslandia wrote:
Photana wrote:Not in the new RP, because Neo-feudalism has been supplanted by Neo-absolutism, but a Technocratic Absolute Monarchy would be completely fine.

Could it be incredibly Gothic, with the tech being dirty and industrial even though it is advanced, and with heavy religious undertones. An example if what an army of said country would look like.
http://wh40kart.im/_images/b2c13d7db65d ... 441a5d.jpg

Nope.
I'm trying to avoid grim dark, this thread was Cyberpunk and the next will probably be more Nanopunk or Post-Cyberpunk. That is to say, after we royally screw over Earth, we learn.
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:46 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:If you're okay with eternal hurricane-force winds and sulfuric acid in the atmosphere, sure.

You wouldn't be able to step out of the structure but structures could survive and people inside them could live.

The Orson Empire wrote:But anyway, near the end of the war, I will have Jane Armani (the president of the TRA) be assassinated by anti-war protesters.

I personally plan on Shadak (president of Britain) to die on Berlin from a German terrorist attack when he is giving a speech about imminent end of war and praising the soldiers for their dedication and bravery. Then new president (his daughter) takes personal issue with Prussia, vows to take revenge for her father and war gets much more dirty as bio weapons are used with intention of wiping out Prussians.
By the end the government remains but the society gets much more totalitarian as any anti war views is declared high treason, questing act of government is sabotaging the war effort etc; all of which are punishable by summary execution and millions have been killed by government in summary executions.

Photana wrote:I'm thinking that they communicate via color-changing, because it's dark with no light, and that these hive-minded slime mold eat chemicals, because photosynthesis is impossible, and I doubt fishes would be living without algae.

I like this, but what would be their offensive capacity... I mean I assume we are going for some sort of conflict between two.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:51 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:If you're okay with eternal hurricane-force winds and sulfuric acid in the atmosphere, sure.

You wouldn't be able to step out of the structure but structures could survive and people inside them could live.

The Orson Empire wrote:But anyway, near the end of the war, I will have Jane Armani (the president of the TRA) be assassinated by anti-war protesters.

I personally plan on Shadak (president of Britain) to die on Berlin from a German terrorist attack when he is giving a speech about imminent end of war and praising the soldiers for their dedication and bravery. Then new president (his daughter) takes personal issue with Prussia, vows to take revenge for her father and war gets much more dirty as bio weapons are used with intention of wiping out Prussians.
By the end the government remains but the society gets much more totalitarian as any anti war views is declared high treason, questing act of government is sabotaging the war effort etc; all of which are punishable by summary execution and millions have been killed by government in summary executions.

Photana wrote:I'm thinking that they communicate via color-changing, because it's dark with no light, and that these hive-minded slime mold eat chemicals, because photosynthesis is impossible, and I doubt fishes would be living without algae.

I like this, but what would be their offensive capacity... I mean I assume we are going for some sort of conflict between two.

Slime molds are notoriously hard to kill and virulent. ;)
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Postby Photana » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:52 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:If you're okay with eternal hurricane-force winds and sulfuric acid in the atmosphere, sure.

You wouldn't be able to step out of the structure but structures could survive and people inside them could live.

The Orson Empire wrote:But anyway, near the end of the war, I will have Jane Armani (the president of the TRA) be assassinated by anti-war protesters.

I personally plan on Shadak (president of Britain) to die on Berlin from a German terrorist attack when he is giving a speech about imminent end of war and praising the soldiers for their dedication and bravery. Then new president (his daughter) takes personal issue with Prussia, vows to take revenge for her father and war gets much more dirty as bio weapons are used with intention of wiping out Prussians.
By the end the government remains but the society gets much more totalitarian as any anti war views is declared high treason, questing act of government is sabotaging the war effort etc; all of which are punishable by summary execution and millions have been killed by government in summary executions.

Photana wrote:I'm thinking that they communicate via color-changing, because it's dark with no light, and that these hive-minded slime mold eat chemicals, because photosynthesis is impossible, and I doubt fishes would be living without algae.

I like this, but what would be their offensive capacity... I mean I assume we are going for some sort of conflict between two.


You know what, them more I talk about the bacteria aliens, the less I like them. Maybe we can have some amphibious seal/dolphin-looking fellows from Europa? Ones that can actually communicate and interact with us in some meaningful way, and still be eccentric?

I mean, we still aren't going to go all race war on them because we simply out number them 10:1, but I like the idea better.
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Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded ultra-progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.
Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.
To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate idealistic egalitarian with many strong convictions.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:07 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:If you're okay with eternal hurricane-force winds and sulfuric acid in the atmosphere, sure.

You wouldn't be able to step out of the structure but structures could survive and people inside them could live.

The Orson Empire wrote:But anyway, near the end of the war, I will have Jane Armani (the president of the TRA) be assassinated by anti-war protesters.

I personally plan on Shadak (president of Britain) to die on Berlin from a German terrorist attack when he is giving a speech about imminent end of war and praising the soldiers for their dedication and bravery. Then new president (his daughter) takes personal issue with Prussia, vows to take revenge for her father and war gets much more dirty as bio weapons are used with intention of wiping out Prussians.
By the end the government remains but the society gets much more totalitarian as any anti war views is declared high treason, questing act of government is sabotaging the war effort etc; all of which are punishable by summary execution and millions have been killed by government in summary executions.

Photana wrote:I'm thinking that they communicate via color-changing, because it's dark with no light, and that these hive-minded slime mold eat chemicals, because photosynthesis is impossible, and I doubt fishes would be living without algae.

I like this, but what would be their offensive capacity... I mean I assume we are going for some sort of conflict between two.

Why would he be praising robot soldiers for dedication and bravery? They are just doing what they were programmed to do.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:08 pm

Photana wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:You wouldn't be able to step out of the structure but structures could survive and people inside them could live.


I personally plan on Shadak (president of Britain) to die on Berlin from a German terrorist attack when he is giving a speech about imminent end of war and praising the soldiers for their dedication and bravery. Then new president (his daughter) takes personal issue with Prussia, vows to take revenge for her father and war gets much more dirty as bio weapons are used with intention of wiping out Prussians.
By the end the government remains but the society gets much more totalitarian as any anti war views is declared high treason, questing act of government is sabotaging the war effort etc; all of which are punishable by summary execution and millions have been killed by government in summary executions.


I like this, but what would be their offensive capacity... I mean I assume we are going for some sort of conflict between two.


You know what, them more I talk about the bacteria aliens, the less I like them. Maybe we can have some amphibious seal/dolphin-looking fellows from Europa? Ones that can actually communicate and interact with us in some meaningful way, and still be eccentric?

I mean, we still aren't going to go all race war on them because we simply out number them 10:1, but I like the idea better.

We would have to drill several kilometers below the surface of Europa to find them, though.

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Postby Photana » Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:14 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Photana wrote:
You know what, them more I talk about the bacteria aliens, the less I like them. Maybe we can have some amphibious seal/dolphin-looking fellows from Europa? Ones that can actually communicate and interact with us in some meaningful way, and still be eccentric?

I mean, we still aren't going to go all race war on them because we simply out number them 10:1, but I like the idea better.

We would have to drill several kilometers below the surface of Europa to find them, though.


So? We have enough plot magic left on Earth to accomplish such a task. Perhaps the colonists and natives of Europa live in giant ice tunnels under the ice surface, but above the watery core. These tunnels would have been carved by the natives and used for living space and the human colonists would just move in with them and expand the tunnels, and introduce themselves and their technology to the Natives.
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Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded ultra-progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.
Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.
To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate idealistic egalitarian with many strong convictions.

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