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Ancientania
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Postby Ancientania » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:31 pm

Aekaria wrote:
Ancientania wrote:From what I have seen, your name attracts people like flies


It does

Source: I might be a person

Seriously, G is known for very professional and well-made roleplays. He's not the only one (about to get bullied in every other one I do) but he is one.

Well, the biggest thing is when he tried to run The Country Game, or at least his version.

He wasn't the first guy. We've had Vaish's, Empires, and now Empires 2 since those two both failed for OP inactivity.

But when G tried it, he had to do like 10 times more than us, because people, the likes of which are here, joined.

Nothing against that, but it just goes to show the power of that name.
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Seriously though, it is quite humbling to see a good turnout when not every RP makes it out of infancy.

I think I've been blessed with every RP I've had making it to the IC; all of them have failed soon after that, thus far
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Postby Aekaria » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:38 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Aekaria wrote:Seriously, G is known for very professional and well-made roleplays. He's not the only one (about to get bullied in every other one I do) but he is one.


Bullying engines to maximum, captain.

Seriously though, it is quite humbling to see a good turnout when not every RP makes it out of infancy.


I'm not being a sycophant. But. You- and many others who roleplay with you- are known for creating intricate, finely detailed,and unique mechanisms for each roleplay. Your popularity is from years of high quality work paying off. Your name carries weight- I doubt any RP I make tomorrow will even begin.

Theres also the fact you have been, pretty much, a pillar for P2TM for a long time. And I'm screaming at myself as I say this- as a person notorious irl for a sharp tongue- Your Commendation was given to you for a reason.

Now, need to run from the bullying engine, bye-
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:42 pm

Ancientania wrote:But when G tried it, he had to do like 10 times more than us


Gack, don't remind me. That firmly ensconced for me why if I run nation/faction RPs I usually have to give them numbers - otherwise they veer hard into non-abstraction which is ruinous on my time commitments.
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Ovstylap
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Postby Ovstylap » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:56 pm

Corporation Application
Name: Arctic Harvests and Holdings Group
Operating Base(s): Winnipeg, Mantioba, Canada, North America.
Leader Name: Patrick Gallant, or to his closest friends, 'Paddy'
Brief History: For many a year, as resource scarcity, market instability, and ecological breakdown intensified, eyes looked towards the Poles. Some predictions for the Great Northern Trade route suggested that its trading capacity would rapidly increase into the billions, and many companies competed for extraction contracts in the polar regions. Matters of concern, such as indigenous rights; the contamination of fresh water reserves; overfishing, environmental damage; ignoring the negatives of extracting additional fossil fuel extraction; all paled in comparison to the threat of surrendering market advantages, huge profits, and strategic security as other regional powers encroached on the region.

With the tumultuous nature of political and socioeconomic troubles, extreme inequality, strategic overstretch, and repeated climate disasters (as well as the undermining of liberal democratic values, issues of populism, and foreign entanglements) occuring in the United States of America, Canada gradually positioned itself as a safer, more stable place for investments and technological developments. As global warming has continued, yet resource scarcity has precipitated conflicts, attempts to maximise agricultural production and resource extraction in the warming Canadian territories have necessarily continued. To some extent, the Canadian government has become influenced by increasingly technocratic trends, whilst quietly positioning itself as a bastion of the old 'Western liberal' views which America remains the surface-level champion of.

From the early 2030s, the mergers of a variety of university-initiated enterprises, venture-capital start ups, and major agricultural corporations; coupled with injections of Canadian government funding and 'safe, low-return' investments from American capital, led to an increasing rise of companies seeking to maximise production in Canada, for the sale of foodstuffs and other resources into their southern neighbour simply to help keep things stable there. With a guaranteed market for food to the south, they saw significant capital flows. As the global state of affairs has deteriorated however, continued co-operation with the Canadian government; and maximising efficiency through reducing domestic competition, have been vital.

In 2043 the Borealis Bounty Corporation, and Polar Prospects LTD merged, with Winnipeg Agritech being incorporated in 2044. In 2045, several other companies were amalgamated into the Northern Development Company, which was rebranded, alongside a swathe of investment, in 2046 as Arctic Harvests and Holdings - the aim is to prevent the collapse of Canadian companies, especially those involved in Climate Adaption, Scientific research, and agriculture, and to a lesser extent resource extraction, without continuing inefficiencies.
Over the last few years the companies have been streamlined to heighten their efficiency, and it cannot be denied that AHH is now a key contributor to the resource 'stability' of North America.
Corporation Expertise: Agribusiness

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:00 pm

Ovstylap wrote:Corporation Application
Name: Arctic Harvests and Holdings Group
Operating Base(s): Winnipeg, Mantioba, Canada, North America.
Leader Name: Patrick Gallant, or to his closest friends, 'Paddy'
Brief History: For many a year, as resource scarcity, market instability, and ecological breakdown intensified, eyes looked towards the Poles. Some predictions for the Great Northern Trade route suggested that its trading capacity would rapidly increase into the billions, and many companies competed for extraction contracts in the polar regions. Matters of concern, such as indigenous rights; the contamination of fresh water reserves; overfishing, environmental damage; ignoring the negatives of extracting additional fossil fuel extraction; all paled in comparison to the threat of surrendering market advantages, huge profits, and strategic security as other regional powers encroached on the region.

With the tumultuous nature of political and socioeconomic troubles, extreme inequality, strategic overstretch, and repeated climate disasters (as well as the undermining of liberal democratic values, issues of populism, and foreign entanglements) occuring in the United States of America, Canada gradually positioned itself as a safer, more stable place for investments and technological developments. As global warming has continued, yet resource scarcity has precipitated conflicts, attempts to maximise agricultural production and resource extraction in the warming Canadian territories have necessarily continued. To some extent, the Canadian government has become influenced by increasingly technocratic trends, whilst quietly positioning itself as a bastion of the old 'Western liberal' views which America remains the surface-level champion of.

From the early 2030s, the mergers of a variety of university-initiated enterprises, venture-capital start ups, and major agricultural corporations; coupled with injections of Canadian government funding and 'safe, low-return' investments from American capital, led to an increasing rise of companies seeking to maximise production in Canada, for the sale of foodstuffs and other resources into their southern neighbour simply to help keep things stable there. With a guaranteed market for food to the south, they saw significant capital flows. As the global state of affairs has deteriorated however, continued co-operation with the Canadian government; and maximising efficiency through reducing domestic competition, have been vital.

In 2043 the Borealis Bounty Corporation, and Polar Prospects LTD merged, with Winnipeg Agritech being incorporated in 2044. In 2045, several other companies were amalgamated into the Northern Development Company, which was rebranded, alongside a swathe of investment, in 2046 as Arctic Harvests and Holdings - the aim is to prevent the collapse of Canadian companies, especially those involved in Climate Adaption, Scientific research, and agriculture, and to a lesser extent resource extraction, without continuing inefficiencies.
Over the last few years the companies have been streamlined to heighten their efficiency, and it cannot be denied that AHH is now a key contributor to the resource 'stability' of North America.
Corporation Expertise: Agribusiness


Ah, excellent, more Ag. Good to see you Ovst. Accepted, and welcome. Nice writeup of a path to greater Canadian agribusiness investment and the impacts of climatic and political forces.
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Postby Ovstylap » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:09 pm

Always a pleasure, many thanks for the accept!

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Aekaria
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Postby Aekaria » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:11 pm

Ovstylap wrote:Always a pleasure, many thanks for the accept!


I can imagine selling food to a rich people in a tumultuous time is profitable.
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Postby United Mafias » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:16 pm

Ovstylap wrote:Always a pleasure, many thanks for the accept!


Hey, a could a coperation between GOCAS and AHH be established?

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Postby Ovstylap » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:34 pm

United Mafias: my application history I doubt we’d have much prior interaction, but IC we be happy to of course meet and discuss matters, I doubt there would be a pre existing agreement, but maybe one could be formed. We shall see in the IC. Currently though, our market spheres do not overlap, which is a positive.

Aekaria, yes I hope so!

G-Tech, local farms are said to produce 5, 3, 2, 1, 0. Should this not also include a ‘4’ as an option, to match the number of quality levels for fertility.

Does a farm automatically generate say, 3 food in a ‘good’ region without doing the harvest action? Is it only the harvest action which depletes the soil fertility.
Or is it every turn if that is how the food generation works.

If I put excess goods in the open market on turn 2, which are almost guaranteed to sell, does that money only become available on turn 3?

Thank you

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The Empire of Tau
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:46 pm

What happened to the Middle East?

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Aekaria
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Postby Aekaria » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:53 pm

The Empire of Tau wrote:What happened to the Middle East?


Guess it's in...a continent.
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"Now we rage against The Dying of The Light."
"It is not easy to be different, and even less so to be unique."
"Heroism is easily crushed by the weight of Eternity."-Myself.
"Die as you live, son of The Eighth Legion."
"For love is the bane of honour, the death of duty."
"Humanity is venal and fractious. It can never be governed as one. Everything else is an impossible dream."


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Postby Ovstylap » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:04 am

The Empire of Tau wrote:What happened to the Middle East?


Complete nuclear fallout???

Maybe that should be a zone of complete anarchy, but excellent minerals and low fertility
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:03 am

Ovstylap wrote:United Mafias: my application history I doubt we’d have much prior interaction, but IC we be happy to of course meet and discuss matters, I doubt there would be a pre existing agreement, but maybe one could be formed. We shall see in the IC. Currently though, our market spheres do not overlap, which is a positive.

Aekaria, yes I hope so!

G-Tech, local farms are said to produce 5, 3, 2, 1, 0. Should this not also include a ‘4’ as an option, to match the number of quality levels for fertility.

Does a farm automatically generate say, 3 food in a ‘good’ region without doing the harvest action? Is it only the harvest action which depletes the soil fertility.
Or is it every turn if that is how the food generation works.

If I put excess goods in the open market on turn 2, which are almost guaranteed to sell, does that money only become available on turn 3?

Thank you


Ah, sorry, that should perhaps be clearer - Fertility determines regional Agricultural Grade availability, but individual Farm output is determined by their Grade individually. Black Soil, Farmland, Arid, Desolate, Depleted. There is no “4” Food output for a Farm.

Indeed, most Assets (farms included) will be (or if they have inputs, may be) operated every month, where they’ll generate their baseline resources. Harvesting Season squeezes more Food out of your farms, but counts as additional Food production event which will contribute to exhaustion.

That’s right - the market phase occurs at the start of a new month, in essence. Unless you circumvent it with Actions. Generally though you’ll be getting baseline resources, locking in actions, and deciding which resources you want to sell. Then next month you reap the results of your Actions and sales, informing further Actions.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:04 am

The Empire of Tau wrote:What happened to the Middle East?


I imagine it is still suffering under its own unique cocktail of jingoism, fanaticism, nationalism, and deprivation, exacerbated by gathering climate impacts. It is one of the regions South Asia isn’t looking amazing.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:08 am

Also, as a heads up for the lads - looks like I’ll have time to fab the IC this evening, so look forward to us going live in about 6 hours.
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Postby Ancientania » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:30 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Also, as a heads up for the lads - looks like I’ll have time to fab the IC this evening, so look forward to us going live in about 6 hours.

Three cheers for that
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Postby Ovstylap » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:33 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Also, as a heads up for the lads - looks like I’ll have time to fab the IC this evening, so look forward to us going live in about 6 hours.


Fantastic! Do United Mafias and I find out then or beforehand what quality our starting three farms are?

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Postby Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:37 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:
Alright, done.



This is a fun concept - happy to have you CSR. I was looking forward to the Eironics, but this is also an interesting story to be told. J'accept.


Yeah, maybe next time. It would have been in north america, but there are multiple other corporations in north america, so, absolutely not. I'd like to RP for more than one turn.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:54 am

Ovstylap wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Also, as a heads up for the lads - looks like I’ll have time to fab the IC this evening, so look forward to us going live in about 6 hours.


Fantastic! Do United Mafias and I find out then or beforehand what quality our starting three farms are?


‘tis in the OP - Farmland, the second highest Agricultural Grade.
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Postby The Empire of Tau » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:35 am

How does selling work? Do we assume that our good is sold instantly or do we want for a turn to figure out if a region brought our resources?

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Postby Ovstylap » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:53 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Ovstylap wrote:
Fantastic! Do United Mafias and I find out then or beforehand what quality our starting three farms are?


‘tis in the OP - Farmland, the second highest Agricultural Grade.


Ah yes, I thought that farmland itself could be of varying qualities.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:32 am

The Empire of Tau wrote:How does selling work? Do we assume that our good is sold instantly or do we want for a turn to figure out if a region brought our resources?


Basically you put up a good to be sold at the end of a month, and over the month end Regions will purchase them assuming they have enough money to do so. You'll get your earnings recorded in the month update. That is, unless you decide to use Artificial Need as one of your Minors, which immediately makes a sale.

Ovstylap wrote:Ah yes, I thought that farmland itself could be of varying qualities.


I suppose that nomenclature might not be the clearest. A Region has a Fertility, which determines the Agricultural Grade of the Agricultural Sites which might be mapped out in that particular piece of planet. An Agricultural Grade ranges from Black Soil all the way down to Desolate, with the second highest Grade, Farmland, being the type of Site Agribusinesses begin with three Farms built on.
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Postby The GAmeTopians » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:57 am

@G Establish Laboratory should probably say “paying its normal build cost”, in line with the other actions which have ways to subvert the build cost.
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Postby The GAmeTopians » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:23 pm

Also @G, why would you ever Construct a Local Farm when (with current wording) you can just do Agricultural Expansion and get them for free?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:44 pm

The GAmeTopians wrote:Also @G, why would you ever Construct a Local Farm when (with current wording) you can just do Agricultural Expansion and get them for free?


Tsk tsk. Gotta really use the most straightforward interpretation - both Ag Expansion and Deep Hewing still cost the regular resources for construction.
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