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Latvijas Otra Republika
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Postby Latvijas Otra Republika » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:24 am

Arvenia wrote:
Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:Better than anything Atrilan has ever done in his tiny life, you are beating Atrilan by miles. Good work (though it isn't hard to do).

Loser Atrilan

Well, Atrilan is still a good OP/Co-Op after all. I will try to flesh out the rest about this RP before it opens.

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Postby Arvenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:29 am

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Well, Atrilan is still a good OP/Co-Op after all. I will try to flesh out the rest about this RP before it opens.

I’m joking, everyone loves the E boy

I know. Also, Latvia will be playable.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:33 am

Northumbria should be independent in your RP.
NATIONALIST NORTHUMBRIA EXISTS IN TWO CANONS THE LATTER OF WHICH IS USED UNLESS SPECIFIED OTHERWISE OR RPING WITH IDEAL BRITAIN 1) IN 2040s IN IDEAL BRITAIN'S CANON 2) IN PRESENT DAY IN INDEPENDENT HEPTAPEIRAL CANON THAT INTERACTS WITH OUTSIDE USING THIS METHOD

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Postby Atrilan » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:57 am

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Basically similar to "2024: The Long Peace", albeit with many elements of my old RP "The Soviet Expansion". It is set in a world where Russia became communist again, while China and Korea were democratized, Yugoslavia stayed united (albeit only has Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo) and a Second Cold War is coming. I will explain more soon.

Better than anything Atrilan has ever done in his tiny life, you are beating Atrilan by miles. Good work (though it isn't hard to do).

Loser Atrilan

you're just crying because i let russia take a bite out of latvia juku
cope
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Postby Atrilan » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:58 am

Arvenia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:What's the scenerio so far?

Basically similar to "2024: The Long Peace", albeit with many elements of my old RP "The Soviet Expansion". It is set in a world where Russia became communist again, while China and Korea were democratized, Yugoslavia stayed united (albeit only has Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo) and a Second Cold War is coming. I will explain more soon.

Roughly, how many power blocs would you say the world is split into?
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Postby Plzen » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:09 am

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Northumbria should be independent in your RP.

If Northumbria is independent, that leaves the road open for a strong power in Northern Europe. :)

That strikes me as an excellent idea.
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Postby Arvenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:27 am

Plzen wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Northumbria should be independent in your RP.

If Northumbria is independent, that leaves the road open for a strong power in Northern Europe. :)

That strikes me as an excellent idea.

That makes me worried, because I am not ready for a divided UK. Maybe we can have an independent Scotland.
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Postby Arvenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 am

Atrilan wrote:
Arvenia wrote:Basically similar to "2024: The Long Peace", albeit with many elements of my old RP "The Soviet Expansion". It is set in a world where Russia became communist again, while China and Korea were democratized, Yugoslavia stayed united (albeit only has Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo) and a Second Cold War is coming. I will explain more soon.

Roughly, how many power blocs would you say the world is split into?

Basically the same as IRL, although the CSTO is instead called CDP (Common Defense Pact). We can also include CESDOT and Toronto Pact.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:33 am

Plzen wrote:
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Northumbria should be independent in your RP.

If Northumbria is independent, that leaves the road open for a strong power in Northern Europe. :)

That strikes me as an excellent idea.

Yes, Northumbria would indeed be a strong power.
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Postby Atrilan » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:15 am

Arvenia wrote:
Atrilan wrote:Roughly, how many power blocs would you say the world is split into?

Basically the same as IRL, although the CSTO is instead called CDP (Common Defense Pact). We can also include CESDOT and Toronto Pact.

You would have to figure out how prevalent neocolonialism is in this world, since that's a huge factor for how Africa looks. You'd also have to figure out how to keep India and Russia competitive against China and Europe respectively. What position is Russia in at the moment?
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Postby Arvenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:21 am

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
Plzen wrote:If Northumbria is independent, that leaves the road open for a strong power in Northern Europe. :)

That strikes me as an excellent idea.

Yes, Northumbria would indeed be a strong power.

We could incorporate that into another RP called "2030: The Changed World", which might be made sometime in 2021 (since we must focus on this RP), but you can at least come up with reasons for Northumbria to declare independence (if it is the same as in the case of Scotland). The EU and the UK would still exist after all.
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Postby Arvenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:02 pm

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Nationalist Party of China (Kuomintang)

Xinziyou Clique: This clique advocates for laissez-faire economics, thus wants the government to focus more on social, diplomatic and military issues. The form of nationalism that this clique supports is a conservative form of civic nationalism.
Guoziben Clique: This clique advocates for state-sponsored capitalism, thus wants the government to promote state-owned enterprises. Regarding nationalism, this clique believes that the government should promote Chinese national interests overseas.
Fulichang Clique: The most economically nationalist faction within the KMT, this clique advocates for a social market economy that is compatible with Minsheng (People's Livelihood), as well as incorporating protectionist policies.

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Socialist Party of China (Shehuidang)

Hengxiang Clique: This clique advocates for a decentrally-planned economy.
Shehuzhi Clique: This clique advocates for a social democratic economy that incorporates elements of the Nordic model.
Disanlu Clique: This clique advocates for an economy that is derived from Third Way politics.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:16 pm

I know this is still in worldbuilding rather than sign up phase, but I would be interested in China.

BTW, how much leeway would I be given in shaping China's governance? Not the two parties or liberal democratic system but details (like term lengths, upper and lower houses, etch). I am thinking of a more federalized China rather than a unitary state.
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Postby Arvenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:33 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:I know this is still in worldbuilding rather than sign up phase, but I would be interested in China.

BTW, how much leeway would I be given in shaping China's governance? Not the two parties or liberal democratic system but details (like term lengths, upper and lower houses, etch). I am thinking of a more federalized China rather than a unitary state.

The government is basically the ROC one, but with the Legislative Yuan being bicameral.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:45 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:I know this is still in worldbuilding rather than sign up phase, but I would be interested in China.

BTW, how much leeway would I be given in shaping China's governance? Not the two parties or liberal democratic system but details (like term lengths, upper and lower houses, etch). I am thinking of a more federalized China rather than a unitary state.

The government is basically the ROC one, but with the Legislative Yuan being bicameral.


Sounds good to me. With regards to Legislative Yuan, will the bicameralism be fleshed out by you or by the player who gets China? My idea is the lower house to be elected as the RL ROC Legislative Yuan while the upper house will be comprised by five [MPs] from each province.
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Postby Arvenia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:15 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Arvenia wrote:The government is basically the ROC one, but with the Legislative Yuan being bicameral.


Sounds good to me. With regards to Legislative Yuan, will the bicameralism be fleshed out by you or by the player who gets China? My idea is the lower house to be elected as the RL ROC Legislative Yuan while the upper house will be comprised by five [MPs] from each province.

That sounds good too.
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Postby The Pearl River » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:16 pm

Some ideas for the rp: balkanized indonesia and india with some states being communist/naxalite, vietnam becoming southeast asia's korea,

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Postby Fossia » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:50 am

The Pearl River wrote:Some ideas for the rp: balkanized indonesia and india with some states being communist/naxalite, vietnam becoming southeast asia's korea,

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If you want to divide india on ethnic lines I think this map works pretty well.

A = Afghanistan (Kabul)
B = Balochistan (Karachi)
S = Sindh (Faisalabad)
D = Delhi (New Delhi)
G = Gujarat (Ahmedabad)
T = Tamil (Coimbatore)
M = Malwa (Hyderabad)
B = Bengal (Dhaka)

Capitals are in Parentheses

As to Indonesia, I would say its probs more likely they'd stick together, after the Dutch left there was nothing requiring Indonesians to stick together, but the people voted and the government then decided that they felt united as a people after the dutch left, so to that end I think its more likely that Indonesia would stay together, besides any nations that would result from a balkanized indonesia would be to small or insignificant for anyone to actually care.

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:13 am

Since Tibet is part of a democratic China in this TL, an idea would be to have a small (4-5%) Tibetan party elected in the Legislative Yuan, that would be supporting either the KMT or SHD based on their willingness to invest in Tibet/protect Tibetan culture.
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