Can we keep this?

[Mike the Progressive]

I actually like this whole shares thing. It makes the game far more interesting. We've added value to something that has no real value, and yet people are prostituting themselves, others are begging, and some -those noble few- are trying to build their regions by giving shares. After April 1st, can we keep this feature?

[Zottistan]

Possibly, this request belongs in Nuts and Bolts?

But I'd like to keep it too. Makes a much more real economy than fictional NS dollars, where everyone has as much money as they like.

[Eternal Hebron]

I agree.

[Laerod]

Once we get over the whole giving away shares for free bit and the shares become a form of currency for buying things, this would be fun indeed.

[Tergnitz]

I actually like this whole shares thing. It makes the game far more interesting. We've added value to something that has no real value, and yet people are prostituting themselves, others are begging, and some -those noble few- are trying to build their regions by giving shares. After April 1st, can we keep this feature?

I'm guessing no; though it would be fun.

Also, due to the accumulation of shares that has occurred, many people are left with little to no shares, while some have hundreds of thousands. I guess a solution to that would be that you gain a share for every new million of population your nation grows; but that is only a very small solution.

The real problem is that there is no real incentive for people to sell/give away the shares they already have; if they have a large amount...

[Imperial Yamea]

I agree, I quite like this new feature.

[Horror and death]

I agree with this.

[Nazis in Space]

I actually like this whole shares thing. It makes the game far more interesting. We've added value to something that has no real value, and yet people are prostituting themselves, others are begging, and some -those noble few- are trying to build their regions by giving shares. After April 1st, can we keep this feature?

And I gave my shares to Northrop-Grumman solely for giggles.

Just saying.

[Great Nepal]

As owner of massive 0.011470% of NationStates Corporation, I throw my massive weight behind this proposal...

Anyway, more seriously: I hope that happens, makes it more interesting and capitalist.

[Mike the Progressive]

I actually like this whole shares thing. It makes the game far more interesting. We've added value to something that has no real value, and yet people are prostituting themselves, others are begging, and some -those noble few- are trying to build their regions by giving shares. After April 1st, can we keep this feature?

I'm guessing no; though it would be fun.

Also, due to the accumulation of shares that has occurred, many people are left with little to no shares, while some have hundreds of thousands. I guess a solution to that would be that you gain a share for every new million of population your nation grows; but that is only a very small solution.

The real problem is that there is no real incentive for people to sell/give away the shares they already have; if they have a large amount...

That's life, man.

[Laerod]

I actually like this whole shares thing. It makes the game far more interesting. We've added value to something that has no real value, and yet people are prostituting themselves, others are begging, and some -those noble few- are trying to build their regions by giving shares. After April 1st, can we keep this feature?

I'm guessing no; though it would be fun.

Also, due to the accumulation of shares that has occurred, many people are left with little to no shares, while some have hundreds of thousands. I guess a solution to that would be that you gain a share for every new million of population your nation grows; but that is only a very small solution.

The real problem is that there is no real incentive for people to sell/give away the shares they already have; if they have a large amount...

Actually, the solution is that the people with hundreds of thousands of shares go out and buy services from people offering them for shares. Or they donate. For instance Aelosia is selling bikini pics, Kat is selling haiku, I'm selling drawings... Once the point of accumulating all of them just to have the most disappears, people will probably start using them for things.

[DutchAustria]

I hope we can keep it, but i fear we can't...

[Tergnitz]

I'm guessing no; though it would be fun.

Also, due to the accumulation of shares that has occurred, many people are left with little to no shares, while some have hundreds of thousands. I guess a solution to that would be that you gain a share for every new million of population your nation grows; but that is only a very small solution.

The real problem is that there is no real incentive for people to sell/give away the shares they already have; if they have a large amount...

That's life, man.

Well, yes and no.

There is a real incentive in life for people to trade shares, even if they are in a position of strength. Why would any of the current top 25 give up their shares now?

I'm guessing no; though it would be fun.

Also, due to the accumulation of shares that has occurred, many people are left with little to no shares, while some have hundreds of thousands. I guess a solution to that would be that you gain a share for every new million of population your nation grows; but that is only a very small solution.

The real problem is that there is no real incentive for people to sell/give away the shares they already have; if they have a large amount...

Actually, the solution is that the people with hundreds of thousands of shares go out and buy services from people offering them for shares. Or they donate. For instance Aelosia is selling bikini pics, Kat is selling haiku, I'm selling drawings... Once the point of accumulating all of them just to have the most disappears, people will probably start using them for things.

However, there will always be a fairly large contingent for who the /only/ reason for having shares is to horde them and never use them in the hopes of reaching or staying in the Top 25.

[Mike the Progressive]

That's life, man.

Well, yes and no.

There is a real incentive in life for people to trade shares, even if they are in a position of strength. Why would any of the current top 25 give up their shares now?

People always need something.

I mean the same question could be asked on why Carnegie and Rockefeller gave so much of their wealth away.

[Chyeknovostan Republic]

Kinda similar to what I proposed: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=171800 I definitely want this to be used for trading as a form of currency.

[Laerod]

However, there will always be a fairly large contingent for who the /only/ reason for having shares is to horde them and never use them in the hopes of reaching or staying in the Top 25.

Regular resets of shares. That way there's an incentive to use them for something because accumulating them will become pointless.

[Tergnitz]

Well, yes and no.

There is a real incentive in life for people to trade shares, even if they are in a position of strength. Why would any of the current top 25 give up their shares now?

People always need something.

I mean the same question could be asked on why Carnegie and Rockefeller gave so much of their wealth away.

Yes, but due to the current economic system, prices would be so low for goods and services for the general populace to afford them, that it really wouldn't put a dent in the fortunes of the 100-thousandaires and millionaires. Also, they are exceptions rather than the rule.

Maybe if the entire system was reset tomorrow with the understanding that this is not a joke but rather something permanent, it might work.

However, there will always be a fairly large contingent for who the /only/ reason for having shares is to horde them and never use them in the hopes of reaching or staying in the Top 25.

Regular resets of shares. That way there's an incentive to use them for something because accumulating them will become pointless.

Would just cause a ton of buthurt, mainly from the people who have been hoarding.

A full reset tomorrow and slow share growth to match your nation's growth would probably be the best system of implementation if this was going to be made a full feature; but doubt it.

[Thanatttynia]

The problem is that people think it's fun to try and 'revolutionise' NS, which we've had before.
AND THEY'VE ALL FAILED.
It really annoys me that Max Barry keeps this site free and gives us the forums and even these shares and we repay him by doing this.

[Haydn]

I've applied to this shares feature. I'm not meaning to be a retard but what are these shares? What do they do? Sorry, this is off topic...

[Osterra]

NationStates Stock Exchange... I like it.

[Old Tyrannia]

It would make the game more interesting... It'd allow us to have an actual functioning economy on NationStates. People could use shares to buy tanks and things in the economics forum.

[Person012345]

It occured to me that some sort of stock exchange mechanic would be interesting beyond this, but I'm not sure how it would fit in. If it was just the same as now, it would be a gimmick that would get old quickly. If they made it much deeper it may not fit with the style of the game.

[Interspace Commerce]

I've applied to this shares feature. I'm not meaning to be a retard but what are these shares? What do they do? Sorry, this is off topic...

They're the souls Max collected, now he's giving them away. Just GIVING them away! Like hot -censored by FCC-

[New Hayesalia]

Reeks of NS2, re-beginning...

[Great Nepal]

However, there will always be a fairly large contingent for who the /only/ reason for having shares is to horde them and never use them in the hopes of reaching or staying in the Top 25.

Regular resets of shares. That way there's an incentive to use them for something because accumulating them will become pointless.

Yea, say on every April 1st shares reset and anyone who has got more than 500,000 shares will only get 1000 on reset.
Mad selling will happen on 31st March each year.