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U gonna vote at https://www.nationstates.net/region=nat ... ident#poll ?

Of course!
50
20%
Duh, do I look like an imbecile to you?!
12
5%
Vote or you're an EBIL REPUBLICAN SUPPORTER!
39
15%
Vote or you're an CRVEL DEMOCRATIC VOTER!
25
10%
I will vote if it's the last thing I do!
11
4%
If I don't vote, I officially acknowledge myself to be a literal tuna fish.
39
15%
People who don't vote are quite hairy, TBH.
20
8%
Voting is the duty of every patriotic American, so go vote now at https://www.nationstates.net/region=nat ... ident#poll! If you don't, you admit to being terrible, cruel, evil, hairy, unpatriotic, an idiot, a literal moron, a human which fits "all matter, no mind," and a MARSUPIAL! You don't want to be any of those, do you?!
43
17%
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nat ... ident#poll :?:
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3%
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nat ... ident#poll :!:
6
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Total votes : 253

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Postby Ard al Islam » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:01 pm

I was unaware you could have multiple polls in the same thread

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Postby La Xinga » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:05 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:I was unaware you could have multiple polls in the same thread

You can't at the same time, but you can remove one to make another one. I archived the data from the previous ones.


I'm honestly surprised at NationStates. Jefferson is usually more popular than Adams in America, but here it appears that they like Adams more.
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Postby Wylkia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:11 pm

Vote federalist if you want order, trade, and industrial development.

Vote anti-federalist if you want French revolutionary violence and destruction, war with Britain, and general anarchy.

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Postby La Xinga » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:13 pm

Wylkia wrote:Vote federalist if you want order, trade, and industrial development.

Vote anti-federalist if you want French revolutionary violence and destruction, war with Britain, and general anarchy.

I don't believe the Jefferson years were anarchy, and the "Era of Good Feelings" took place in Democratic-Republican times.
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-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Wylkia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:16 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Wylkia wrote:Vote federalist if you want order, trade, and industrial development.

Vote anti-federalist if you want French revolutionary violence and destruction, war with Britain, and general anarchy.

I don't believe the Jefferson years were anarchy, and the "Era of Good Feelings" took place in Democratic-Republican times.


Post is mostly in jest, but I probably should've indicated that.

In seriousness: Some of Jefferson's worst policies were his most anti-federalist ones (Embargo Act of 1807) while the Louisiana Purchase (his big win) was definitely "extra-constitutional" and in that way decidedly federalist in nature (even though they opposed it for the sake of opposing their political opponents).

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Postby La Xinga » Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:48 pm

Wylkia wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I don't believe the Jefferson years were anarchy, and the "Era of Good Feelings" took place in Democratic-Republican times.


Post is mostly in jest, but I probably should've indicated that.

In seriousness: Some of Jefferson's worst policies were his most anti-federalist ones (Embargo Act of 1807) while the Louisiana Purchase (his big win) was definitely "extra-constitutional" and in that way decidedly federalist in nature (even though they opposed it for the sake of opposing their political opponents).

So, why not vote for Mr. Jefferson? Dou you believe Mr. Adams is better?
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-My RMB Quotebook!-
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"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:45 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Wylkia wrote:
Post is mostly in jest, but I probably should've indicated that.

In seriousness: Some of Jefferson's worst policies were his most anti-federalist ones (Embargo Act of 1807) while the Louisiana Purchase (his big win) was definitely "extra-constitutional" and in that way decidedly federalist in nature (even though they opposed it for the sake of opposing their political opponents).

So, why not vote for Mr. Jefferson? Dou you believe Mr. Adams is better?

Yes.

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Postby La Xinga » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:49 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
La Xinga wrote:So, why not vote for Mr. Jefferson? Dou you believe Mr. Adams is better?

Yes.
WHHHYYYYYY?
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:53 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:Yes.
WHHHYYYYYY?

I am a Federalist(in the context of the 1790s). I prefer Federalism, Hamiltonianism, and Conservatism to the liberalism, radicalism, and anti-clericalism of the Democratic-Republican Party. Henceforth, I will vote for the Federalist every time.

I do have reason to believe that Thomas Jefferson was a Muslim, and if that's true, then he obviously has my vote.

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:55 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
La Xinga wrote:WHHHYYYYYY?

I am a Federalist(in the context of the 1790s). I prefer Federalism, Hamiltonianism, and Conservatism to the liberalism, radicalism, and anti-clericalism of the Democratic-Republican Party. Henceforth, I will vote for the Federalist every time.

I do have reason to believe that Thomas Jefferson was a Muslim, and if that's true, then he obviously has my vote.

You know what? I can reasonably assert that TJ was a Muslim. Switching my vote from Pinckney to Jefferson so I do Adams and Jefferson(which is kinda how it turned out in real life tbh).

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:57 pm

Alternate US history is my thing, so I'm really geeking out over this thread

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Postby La Xinga » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:26 am

Ard al Islam wrote:
La Xinga wrote:WHHHYYYYYY?

I am a Federalist(in the context of the 1790s). I prefer Federalism, Hamiltonianism, and Conservatism to the liberalism, radicalism, and anti-clericalism of the Democratic-Republican Party. Henceforth, I will vote for the Federalist every time.

I do have reason to believe that Thomas Jefferson was a Muslim, and if that's true, then he obviously has my vote.

Wait, what? You're in support of the Federalists, yet are voting for the leader of the opposition?
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Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Ard al Islam » Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:40 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:I am a Federalist(in the context of the 1790s). I prefer Federalism, Hamiltonianism, and Conservatism to the liberalism, radicalism, and anti-clericalism of the Democratic-Republican Party. Henceforth, I will vote for the Federalist every time.

I do have reason to believe that Thomas Jefferson was a Muslim, and if that's true, then he obviously has my vote.

Wait, what? You're in support of the Federalists, yet are voting for the leader of the opposition?

I get two votes. So I vote once for Adams, and I'm voting for Jefferson, not because of ideology, but I have to support him because he was low-key a Muslim.

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Postby La Xinga » Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:33 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Wait, what? You're in support of the Federalists, yet are voting for the leader of the opposition?

I get two votes. So I vote once for Adams, and I'm voting for Jefferson, not because of ideology, but I have to support him because he was low-key a Muslim.

Well, as of now, it appears that Adams will be the president and Jefferson, the Vice-President.

Or, maybe not, Jefferson seems to be catching up.
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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1796 Election

Postby La Xinga » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:50 pm

The 1796 Election's over, and here are the results:

1796:
PRESIDENT: John Adams (Federalist) 17 - 32%
Thomas Pinckney (Federalist) 4 - 8%
John Jay (Federalist) 6 - 11%
Oliver Ellsworth (Federalist) 0 - No votes
James Iredell (Federalist) 1 - 2%
Samuel Johnston (Federalist) 0 - No votes
VICE-PRESIDENT: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) 14 - 26%
Aaron Burr (Democratic-Republican) 3 - 6%
Samuel Adams (Democratic-Republican) 6 - 11%
George Clinton (Democratic-Republican) 2 - 4%
(Total votes: 53)

New election now. Vote!
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Ard al Islam » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:48 pm

La Xinga wrote:The 1796 Election's over, and here are the results:

1796:
PRESIDENT: John Adams (Federalist) 17 - 32%
Thomas Pinckney (Federalist) 4 - 8%
John Jay (Federalist) 6 - 11%
Oliver Ellsworth (Federalist) 0 - No votes
James Iredell (Federalist) 1 - 2%
Samuel Johnston (Federalist) 0 - No votes
VICE-PRESIDENT: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) 14 - 26%
Aaron Burr (Democratic-Republican) 3 - 6%
Samuel Adams (Democratic-Republican) 6 - 11%
George Clinton (Democratic-Republican) 2 - 4%
(Total votes: 53)

New election now. Vote!

W Adams in the chat. Also. how often do you change the poll?

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Postby Ard al Islam » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:49 pm

Everyone vote for the Federalists, especially John Adams

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Postby La Xinga » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:58 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
La Xinga wrote:The 1796 Election's over, and here are the results:

1796:
PRESIDENT: John Adams (Federalist) 17 - 32%
Thomas Pinckney (Federalist) 4 - 8%
John Jay (Federalist) 6 - 11%
Oliver Ellsworth (Federalist) 0 - No votes
James Iredell (Federalist) 1 - 2%
Samuel Johnston (Federalist) 0 - No votes
VICE-PRESIDENT: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) 14 - 26%
Aaron Burr (Democratic-Republican) 3 - 6%
Samuel Adams (Democratic-Republican) 6 - 11%
George Clinton (Democratic-Republican) 2 - 4%
(Total votes: 53)

New election now. Vote!

W Adams in the chat. Also. how often do you change the poll?

Every 2-4 days, usually.
Ard al Islam wrote:Everyone vote for the Federalists, especially John Adams

Are you okay with the Alien and Sedition Acts?!
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Ard al Islam » Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:50 pm

La Xinga wrote:Are you okay with the Alien and Sedition Acts?!

Ironically, yes.

Unironically, yes.

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Postby Procrast » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:51 am

Okay as a non-American, vote for Aaron Burr since that's the guy in Hamilton
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Postby La Xinga » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:02 pm

Procrast wrote:Okay as a non-American, vote for Aaron Burr since that's the guy in Hamilton

Same thing happened last time did this thread 2-3 years ago. As of now though, it seems a slight Jeffersonian victory is likely. Which is, in my opinion, good, as I voted for the Jefferson-Burr ticket.
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby La Xinga » Wed Mar 22, 2023 5:21 am

La Xinga wrote:
Procrast wrote:Okay as a non-American, vote for Aaron Burr since that's the guy in Hamilton

As of now though, it seems a slight Jeffersonian victory is likely. Which is, in my opinion, good, as I voted for the Jefferson-Burr ticket.
Oh my; what happened?!
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Ard al Islam » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:40 am

La Xinga wrote:
La Xinga wrote:As of now though, it seems a slight Jeffersonian victory is likely. Which is, in my opinion, good, as I voted for the Jefferson-Burr ticket.
Oh my; what happened?!

Let's gooo!

By the way, if someone other than the real winner wins, then what? Because IRL Jefferson won.

So say, if Adams wins, will the next poll(1804) be between the real winner of 1800 and a challenger(Jefferson and Pinckney like IRL) or will the poll be between the winner of this election and some challenger that you have to imagine?

I recommend just keeping the candidates the same for every election, so even if Adams wins this contest, make the next one between Jefferson and Pinckney.

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Postby Quasi-Stellar Star Civilizations » Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:49 am

Aaron Burr for the win!
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:03 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Oh my; what happened?!

Let's gooo!

By the way, if someone other than the real winner wins, then what? Because IRL Jefferson won.

So say, if Adams wins, will the next poll(1804) be between the real winner of 1800 and a challenger(Jefferson and Pinckney like IRL) or will the poll be between the winner of this election and some challenger that you have to imagine?

I recommend just keeping the candidates the same for every election, so even if Adams wins this contest, make the next one between Jefferson and Pinckney.

I wrote in the OP when I started this "Successive elections will not be changed based on who won in the previous one". I think it is best to keep that.
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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