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Postby The Imperial State of Ateria » Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:18 pm

Elysian Treaty Organization wrote:Cliche: FT nations ripping off copying taking inspiration from major pop-culture franchises.

Wait... hold up...

Very often you will read the specifications of their edgy name-class spaceships and read ‘it is capable of FTL travel’ or ‘it has an array of railguns’.
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Postby Independent Republic of Boldonia » Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:56 pm

The Imperial State of Ateria wrote:
Elysian Treaty Organization wrote:Cliche: FT nations ripping off copying taking inspiration from major pop-culture franchises.

Wait... hold up...

Very often you will read the specifications of their edgy name-class spaceships and read ‘it is capable of FTL travel’ or ‘it has an array of railguns’.

From my modern tech point of view, isn't that standard for FT ships? Isn't that like saying a MT missile cruiser has diesel engines and guided missiles? Are you talking about every ship having railguns and FTL, or more specifically that the factbook says the ship has them but doesn't elaborate?
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Postby The Imperial Fatherland » Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:06 pm

Independent Republic of Boldonia wrote:
The Imperial State of Ateria wrote:Very often you will read the specifications of their edgy name-class spaceships and read ‘it is capable of FTL travel’ or ‘it has an array of railguns’.

From my modern tech point of view, isn't that standard for FT ships? Isn't that like saying a MT missile cruiser has diesel engines and guided missiles? Are you talking about every ship having railguns and FTL, or more specifically that the factbook says the ship has them but doesn't elaborate?


Yes, and yes.

Almost every factbook most of the time is basically over-glorified galleries; there’s a bunch of pictures of spaceships and the user includes their specifications below them, to try and not make them boring.
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Postby Frisemark » Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:02 pm

Independent Republic of Boldonia wrote:From my modern tech point of view, isn't that standard for FT ships? Isn't that like saying a MT missile cruiser has diesel engines and guided missiles? Are you talking about every ship having railguns and FTL, or more specifically that the factbook says the ship has them but doesn't elaborate?

To be particular, anyone with the money to build a new-build guided missile cruiser would probably use nuclear propulsion over diesel-electric :p
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Postby Gandoor » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:46 am

This is an old cliché that you can't really do anymore cuz the mods (finally) started cracking down on these types of nations but Nazi Germany AH nations.
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Postby Perikuresu » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:56 am

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This drama in the moderation threads comes off as one of the most stupidest instances of Mod posting (albeit most likely intentional)
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Postby Bigpipstan » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:57 am

They probably won't be missed because the NAZI germany clones weren't recognizable or creative enough for people to care. Like there are lot of different ways to go about making an evil nation.
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Postby Frisemark » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:07 pm

Gandoor wrote:This is an old cliché that you can't really do anymore cuz the mods (finally) started cracking down on these types of nations but Nazi Germany AH nations.

"Oh you don't understand it's different because DUH KAISER!!! is in power and we're targeting (insert minority) instead of Jews!"

I can't count the number of nations like that I've seen over the years lol
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Postby Black Raven Movement » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:56 pm

Oddly enough I haven’t seen those nations that much on my side. I still see them, but even before a crackdown they weren’t common from what I saw.

That’s unless I dig into a portal of fascist regions for the sake of making myself cringe and soak in anger. They’re always there.
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Postby Frisemark » Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:20 pm

Oh, also, bringing this up for no particular reason. especially not involving a certain military related thread that is probably the most common occurrence

Big Cliche: People getting mad in F7 threads because you didn't sufficiently powerwank their nation enough. That one's always been a constant.
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:27 pm

Personally I do would like people to read my Factbook just a little bit. You don't have to read the entire thing, so if you get a general gist, that's fine.

And yes, with that said, I can always take a defeat lol. I like to see my characters having their asses kicked now and then.
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Postby Black Raven Movement » Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:36 pm

Valentine Z wrote:Personally I do would like people to read my Factbook just a little bit. You don't have to read the entire thing, so if you get a general gist, that's fine.

And yes, with that said, I can always take a defeat lol. I like to see my characters having their asses kicked now and then.

Same here lol. Having my main character Apis get his ass beat is beautiful. With my other characters I’ve gotten better with it. I take it less seriously now.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:03 am

Valentine Z wrote:Personally I do would like people to read my Factbook just a little bit. You don't have to read the entire thing, so if you get a general gist, that's fine.

And yes, with that said, I can always take a defeat lol. I like to see my characters having their asses kicked now and then.

Yup. Some users, not mentioning any names *cough*Ashotu*cough* don’t seem to understand these F7 games.
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:06 am

Black Raven Movement wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Personally I do would like people to read my Factbook just a little bit. You don't have to read the entire thing, so if you get a general gist, that's fine.

And yes, with that said, I can always take a defeat lol. I like to see my characters having their asses kicked now and then.

Same here lol. Having my main character Apis get his ass beat is beautiful. With my other characters I’ve gotten better with it. I take it less seriously now.

Ditto. Granted, it's also hilariously common how people intentionally try to make the most overpowered forces possible purely for the sake of winning and nothing more, like what's the fun in winning? It just adds to the issue of FT/FFT wankery in F7 thread games.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:32 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Black Raven Movement wrote:Same here lol. Having my main character Apis get his ass beat is beautiful. With my other characters I’ve gotten better with it. I take it less seriously now.

Ditto. Granted, it's also hilariously common how people intentionally try to make the most overpowered forces possible purely for the sake of winning and nothing more, like what's the fun in winning? It just adds to the issue of FT/FFT wankery in F7 thread games.

I completely understand why people say that, and I agree. But surprisingly, I honestly am just worldbuilding for an RP I’m making, for FT/FFT stuff, and focused my efforts on it so far.
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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:58 am

Valentine Z wrote:Personally I do would like people to read my Factbook just a little bit. You don't have to read the entire thing, so if you get a general gist, that's fine.

You're expecting far too much from the average user. /hj
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Postby Gandoor » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:09 am

The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Personally I do would like people to read my Factbook just a little bit. You don't have to read the entire thing, so if you get a general gist, that's fine.

And yes, with that said, I can always take a defeat lol. I like to see my characters having their asses kicked now and then.

Yup. Some users, not mentioning any names *cough*Ashotu*cough* don’t seem to understand these F7 games.

I mean this is the same user who once said that they'd decided to 'become the villain' in a moderation thread like they're a character from a shitty anime lol.

Fam this is fuckin NationStates, it's a goddamn web forum and nation simulation game. It ain't that serious.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:10 am

Gandoor wrote:
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Yup. Some users, not mentioning any names *cough*Ashotu*cough* don’t seem to understand these F7 games.

I mean this is the same user who once said that they'd decided to 'become the villain' in a moderation thread like they're a character from a shitty anime lol.

Fam this is fuckin NationStates, it's a goddamn web forum and nation simulation game. It ain't that serious.

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Postby Urine Town » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:12 am

Bigpipstan wrote:They probably won't be missed because the NAZI germany clones weren't recognizable or creative enough for people to care. Like there are lot of different ways to go about making an evil nation.


I agree. It seems like 90% of the Naziposters are just bored trolls looking for a reaction. I’d imagine some of them have legit nations but think that they are allowed to be a jerk to others on NS forums because evil fascist archetype.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:13 am

Urine Town wrote:
Bigpipstan wrote:They probably won't be missed because the NAZI germany clones weren't recognizable or creative enough for people to care. Like there are lot of different ways to go about making an evil nation.


I agree. It seems like 90% of the Naziposters are just bored trolls looking for a reaction. I’d imagine some of them have legit nations but think that they are allowed to be a jerk to others on NS forums because evil fascist archetype.

Some people succeed in playing the evil genocidal nation without invoking the nazis. Like, saaaay, United World Order, I think, or Kraven Corporation.
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Postby Urine Town » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:14 am

Frisemark wrote:
Gandoor wrote:This is an old cliché that you can't really do anymore cuz the mods (finally) started cracking down on these types of nations but Nazi Germany AH nations.

"Oh you don't understand it's different because DUH KAISER!!! is in power and we're targeting (insert minority) instead of Jews!"

I can't count the number of nations like that I've seen over the years lol


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Postby Urine Town » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:14 am

The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:
Urine Town wrote:
I agree. It seems like 90% of the Naziposters are just bored trolls looking for a reaction. I’d imagine some of them have legit nations but think that they are allowed to be a jerk to others on NS forums because evil fascist archetype.

Some people succeed in playing the evil genocidal nation without invoking the nazis. Like, saaaay, United World Order, I think, or Kraven Corporation.


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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:15 am

Urine Town wrote:
Frisemark wrote:"Oh you don't understand it's different because DUH KAISER!!! is in power and we're targeting (insert minority) instead of Jews!"

I can't count the number of nations like that I've seen over the years lol


shrugs These people are not fooling anyone

As I say, some do it effectively, dare say, artfully, like The Kraven Corporation
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:21 am

Urine Town wrote:
Bigpipstan wrote:They probably won't be missed because the NAZI germany clones weren't recognizable or creative enough for people to care. Like there are lot of different ways to go about making an evil nation.


I agree. It seems like 90% of the Naziposters are just bored trolls looking for a reaction. I’d imagine some of them have legit nations but think that they are allowed to be a jerk to others on NS forums because evil fascist archetype.

Ironic given nobody on this damn site know what true fascism is and instead refer (or defer) explicitly to nazism.
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Postby Urine Town » Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:22 am

Yup. Some users, not mentioning any names *cough*Ashotu*cough* don’t seem to understand these F7 games.


Ashotu is such an enigma to me. I can’t tell if the account behind Ashotu is deliberately trying to make low quality posts on Forum 7 in order to get a reaction. Does Ashotu think they are trying to follow the guidelines? I’m assuming whoever is behind Ashotu is either really young or doesn’t speak English? I wouldn’t say anything that the nation posts is blatantly trolling or malicious, but so much of it is just… low quality. Can anyone else explain?
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