NS Cliches II: Re-Rebooted

[The Onox Legion]

Well how much of a timeframe do we have for it? If a man can eat Cessna 150 in 2 years we might need a bit more for the Boeing. Maybe a decade. But then again I'm not sure that the man ate the Cessna for breakfast, lunch, and dinner so our leaders might be able to pick up the pace a bit.

What if one of the leaders of the nations above was a Lovecraftian deity? He would easily win.

Lovecraftian deities don't necessarily are capable of eating things though.
That would make it lose by default

[Dayganistan]

Many nations have rather young leaders despite they are not dynastic empires where the likehood of young leaders would be higher than not.

Yeah I notice that, especially young female leaders. There's nothing particularly wrong with it but it's not that original.

I feel so seen right now. I went into it full well knowing it's an unoriginal concept, but it's original for Islamic/Middle Eastern nations on NS at least. I'd say it definitely does clash with the otherwise realistic aesthetic and vibe of my nation, but I'm ok with that. I was also vaguely inspired by Syria, where Bashar Al Assad was set up to become president by his father and was in his early 30s when he took over.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

I maintain it's entirely because a lot of people on this hellsite are young and therefore want their leader to be around the same age group as they are.

Meanwhile I'm 26 and the youngest leader Gandoor has had is the current Prime Minister who was 41 years old when she become PM in universe.

And said young leaders usually lead some sort of revolution lmao. And they're popular and have the same political views as the user.

TBF a better cliche would be that given young leaders are not that likely IRL, the NS leaders inevitably get a bunch of boosts like a 160 IQ or a 6/6/6 power capacity, simply so that it'll be more realistic for them to hold power at such an age.

Speaking of young leaders, they're surprisingly not that unlikely in unstable nations where coup happens often, as coup leaders are often field troop commanders. Example: Gaddafi.

True, but it always strikes me as unrealistic. There's no way there are THAT many 24-year-old geniuses .

[The Onox Legion]

I maintain it's entirely because a lot of people on this hellsite are young and therefore want their leader to be around the same age group as they are.

Meanwhile I'm 26 and the youngest leader Gandoor has had is the current Prime Minister who was 41 years old when she become PM in universe.

And said young leaders usually lead some sort of revolution lmao. And they're popular and have the same political views as the user.

TBF a better cliche would be that given young leaders are not that likely IRL, the NS leaders inevitably get a bunch of boosts like a 160 IQ or a 6/6/6 power capacity, simply so that it'll be more realistic for them to hold power at such an age.

Speaking of young leaders, they're surprisingly not that unlikely in unstable nations where coup happens often, as coup leaders are often field troop commanders. Example: Gaddafi.

True, but it always strikes me as unrealistic. There's no way there are THAT many 24-year-old geniuses .

Well, tbf, it's usually one 24 old genius in a world where that is uncommon, otherwise it wouldn't be so speshul anymore.
It's just that with them being the main character of their respective setting, they appear very common.
What it does say is that these smort characters are rather massproduced on a chinese factory belt, however.

[Valentine Z]

The F7 characters would need a crapton of diverse events, contests, and measurement of performance because you have: A typical leader, a typical man, a typical woman, an Eldritch being from Dimension X, a space emperor, a multiversal being, a fish, a cat that has three heads, a snake person, a hacker, a Lvl 4723 Wizard, and many, many more. So it would be all about how "We are best in something, but never in everything."

Then comes that leader who says "Fuck that, I'm best at everything!" and then pwnz the rest.

[Cuba 2022 RP]

If the robot thing is OOC that's cringe. If not, (as a woman), I find this hilarious

I found it.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=524839

Surely that's satire?

I found it funny if so

[Foehn Paramilitary Regions]

What it does say is that these smort characters are rather massproduced on a chinese factory belt, however.

no, no, you see, that would imply that they have some quality to them. they're more like steel produced in a backyard furnace back during the Great Leap Forward, honestly.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Well, this is just my personal opinion.
Tbf the concept of a young, talented, smart leader can be great if it's done right. I'd surely enjoy reading them as long as it doesn't ask me to have much suspense of disbelief, or if it's written in a way that still makes me enjoy the flow.
However, if it's written like they are just the only Chad in a world full of Virgins, that seems like a Mary Sue/Marty Stu-setting and yeah....I'm not sure what I'm reading anymore.

Though, the concept of all of them being gathered inside a room would be funny.

Yeah I notice that, especially young female leaders. There's nothing particularly wrong with it but it's not that original.

I feel so seen right now. I went into it full well knowing it's an unoriginal concept, but it's original for Islamic/Middle Eastern nations on NS at least. I'd say it definitely does clash with the otherwise realistic aesthetic and vibe of my nation, but I'm ok with that. I was also vaguely inspired by Syria, where Bashar Al Assad was set up to become president by his father and was in his early 30s when he took over.

I agree that with the state of RL Muslim world right now....it would be quite phenomenal on its own, though well just like you might have known, historically the Muslim world has also produced a lot of female leaders in the past and some in the present.
But for a present setting, that would be original, in a way.

[Feyrisshire]

-snip-

In the Philippines, in order to become a politician, you need to become an action star first with lots of awesome fighting scenes.

[Diarcesia]

-snip-

In the Philippines, in order to become a politician, you need to become an action star first with lots of awesome fighting scenes.

Do you mean someone like Volodymyr Zelenskyy?

[Storm and Crown SC]

I answer any issue

Food Quality: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[Samudera Darussalam]

-snip-

In the Philippines, in order to become a politician, you need to become an action star first with lots of awesome fighting scenes.

First time I'm hearing that
But he seems to be an interesting fellow

[Drongonia]

I answer any issue

Food Quality: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

I feel that

For me it's
>answer any issue
Safety: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Seriously, I have a large public health system, a good "health" score, low obesity, very low crime, high incomes, long lifespan, just halved my defence forces yet safety is still super low

[Storm and Crown SC]

I answer any issue

Food Quality: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

I feel that

For me it's
>answer any issue
Safety: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Seriously, I have a large public health system, a good "health" score, low obesity, very low crime, high incomes, long lifespan, just halved my defence forces yet safety is still super low

With the way the Issue system is, anything can happen.

I've lost significant amounts of random stats when the Issue had nothing to do with the stats reduced xd

[Vavlar]

The F7 characters would need a crapton of diverse events, contests, and measurement of performance because you have: A typical leader, a typical man, a typical woman, an Eldritch being from Dimension X, a space emperor, a multiversal being, a fish, a cat that has three heads, a snake person, a hacker, a Lvl 4723 Wizard, and many, many more. So it would be all about how "We are best in something, but never in everything."

Then comes that leader who says "Fuck that, I'm best at everything!" and then pwnz the rest.

That's where the chair comes in to kill everyone, eat their souls, restore the universe, rinse, repeat daily.

[Samudera Darussalam]

I answer any issue

Food Quality: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

I feel that

For me it's
>answer any issue
Safety: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Seriously, I have a large public health system, a good "health" score, low obesity, very low crime, high incomes, long lifespan, just halved my defence forces yet safety is still super low

Is it related to Youth Rebelliousness? Mine is not that low in that part either but it's lower than yours.

As for me, it's the way the healthcare (not health) stats keeps decreasing almost whenever I answer issues

I feel that

For me it's
>answer any issue
Safety: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Seriously, I have a large public health system, a good "health" score, low obesity, very low crime, high incomes, long lifespan, just halved my defence forces yet safety is still super low

With the way the Issue system is, anything can happen.

I've lost significant amounts of random stats when the Issue had nothing to do with the stats reduced xd

I mean, sometimes stats don't make sense, but it's the fun I think

[Dayganistan]

I feel so seen right now. I went into it full well knowing it's an unoriginal concept, but it's original for Islamic/Middle Eastern nations on NS at least. I'd say it definitely does clash with the otherwise realistic aesthetic and vibe of my nation, but I'm ok with that. I was also vaguely inspired by Syria, where Bashar Al Assad was set up to become president by his father and was in his early 30s when he took over.

I agree that with the state of RL Muslim world right now....it would be quite phenomenal on its own, though well just like you might have known, historically the Muslim world has also produced a lot of female leaders in the past and some in the present.
But for a present setting, that would be original, in a way.

Yeah, Benazir Bhutto is definitely someone that comes to mind in terms of modern settings and is someone I could see myself drawing some inspiration from for my leader.

[Valentine Z]

I answer any issue

Food Quality: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

I feel that

For me it's
>answer any issue
Safety: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Seriously, I have a large public health system, a good "health" score, low obesity, very low crime, high incomes, long lifespan, just halved my defence forces yet safety is still super low

Must be due to all the rude people in your nation.

Serious answer being, err... I don't know. I *could* do an analysis, but that's not in my schedule. >,<

[Gnomeheim]

I feel that

For me it's
>answer any issue
Safety: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Seriously, I have a large public health system, a good "health" score, low obesity, very low crime, high incomes, long lifespan, just halved my defence forces yet safety is still super low

With the way the Issue system is, anything can happen.

I've lost significant amounts of random stats when the Issue had nothing to do with the stats reduced xd

I've been classified as "Democratic Socialist" for choosing the religious/ecological option in a recent issue.

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

I feel that

For me it's
>answer any issue
Safety: ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

Seriously, I have a large public health system, a good "health" score, low obesity, very low crime, high incomes, long lifespan, just halved my defence forces yet safety is still super low

Must be due to all the rude people in your nation.

Serious answer being, err... I don't know. I *could* do an analysis, but that's not in my schedule. >,<

Apparently Scientific Advancement and Weather are mutually exclusive with each other. How do I know? Just look at Godular for both.

Having them living in space isn’t as much of a stretch for the stats as it might seem.

[The Onox Legion]

The trick is to focus on one stat and ignore the rest, as the fickle nature of randomization often differs from what the user desires.
I personally just take 1 stat (Pizza Delivery for the WDS, Crime for the legion) and try to get it as high as possible.

[Valentine Z]

I'm getting the nicer/softer stats up, and a delicate balance of Defenses + Pacifism.

Working pretty okay so far. <3

[Cuba 2022 RP]

The trick is to focus on one stat and ignore the rest, as the fickle nature of randomization often differs from what the user desires.
I personally just take 1 stat (Pizza Delivery for the WDS, Crime for the legion) and try to get it as high as possible.

I dont like that though
I hate seeing all the other stats go down even if it's temporary

[Drongonia]

The trick is to focus on one stat and ignore the rest, as the fickle nature of randomization often differs from what the user desires.
I personally just take 1 stat (Pizza Delivery for the WDS, Crime for the legion) and try to get it as high as possible.

Not sure if this is something more left-leaning users complain about, but I've found that if you follow a kind of neoliberal "this will increase my HDI and average income" stance when answering issues, it works out pretty well.

[Valentine Z]

Must be due to all the rude people in your nation.

Serious answer being, err... I don't know. I *could* do an analysis, but that's not in my schedule. >,<

Apparently Scientific Advancement and Weather are mutually exclusive with each other. How do I know? Just look at Godular for both.

Having them living in space isn’t as much of a stretch for the stats as it might seem.

Indeed an interesting pattern. ^^ I just couldn't resist, sorry!