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Postby Meadowfields » Mon May 02, 2022 3:40 pm

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Free Ravensburg wrote:Absolutely not.


Absolutely yes.

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Disagreed; plain misunderstanding and lack of information on the individuals’ part is the issue.
The Rwanda plan isn’t radical enough.

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Free Ravensburg wrote:Absolutely not.


Absolutely yes.

Absolute comes from Latin "absolūtus". Latin is not a Germanic language. What a total hypocrite.

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Postby Juansonia » Mon May 02, 2022 5:03 pm

agree. That was the true form, but it got corrupted to "family above friends"

Esperanto should be:
1) taught in high school as a language option and
2) used as a secondary language on non-binding government documents (passports, airport signs, etc).
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Postby Kyria » Mon May 02, 2022 5:20 pm

Disagreed.
Any society that embraces or uses Esperanto deprecates and vilifies its own unique identity and history.
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Postby Itielia » Mon May 02, 2022 5:32 pm

So according to this logic the UK vilifies its own culture by teaching French, Vietnam vilifies its own culture by teaching English, Japan vilifies its own culture by teaching Chinese. Esperanto was never meant to be a primary language, even though I am sceptical of its practical implementation.




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Not really imo
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Postby Hispida » Mon May 02, 2022 5:46 pm

reddit as a whole is an echo chamber for attention-seeking zoomers tbh



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Postby Nation of Hanguk » Mon May 02, 2022 8:18 pm

Hispida wrote:if push came to shove, muhammad ali in his prime would beat mike tyson in his prime.


Possibly. Only another dimension of the multiverse will know.

The Rwanda Plan is inhumane and unethical. Period.
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Postby Meadowfields » Mon May 02, 2022 8:30 pm

Nation of Hanguk wrote:
Hispida wrote:if push came to shove, muhammad ali in his prime would beat mike tyson in his prime.


Possibly. Only another dimension of the multiverse will know.

The Rwanda Plan is inhumane and unethical. Period.

Full agreement. See my quotes above. And the tabloid Daily Mail has the nerve to call its critics "lEfT-wInG lAwYeRs AnD nAySaYeRs"


Climate change is happening, and we need to stop it.
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Postby Nevertopia » Mon May 02, 2022 8:36 pm

Agree. This is already considered as irrefutable fact by the vast majority of the scientific community, anyone who disagrees might as well be disagreeing with the theory of gravity considering how well-known and settled the topic is.

There are people in this world who will refuse to see the facts out of spite, no matter how detrimental it is to them and everyone else around them.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Mon May 02, 2022 11:45 pm

Truer words have never been spoken on this thread.

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Postby Narland » Tue May 03, 2022 12:14 am

I can understand the sentiment. Maybe a tortuous libel at worst, but not a criminal offence.

Quiche is an idea whose time has come and gone. It should be quietly forgotten.
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Postby Great Britain eke Northern Ireland » Tue May 03, 2022 3:44 am

I’m afraid I know nothing about quiche nor how it is an “idea whose time has come and gone,” so I’ll agree on the basis it’s French.
The United Kingdom should institute a generation-long halt on immigration so that government can focus more on domestic problems like homelessness, the housing crisis, healthcare backlogs and inadequate social and economic infrastructure. This would also allow current foreignborne residents and those belonging to parallel societies to be assimilated or at least hasten the process.
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Postby Nation of Hanguk » Tue May 03, 2022 4:25 am

We are in the most volatile times in terms of geopolitical tensions and socioeconomic upheaval. The UK must not turn back at refugees when (1) they were one of the contributing actors that produced these problems in the first place and (2) it has enough resources to accommodate them as a developed country. All those issues you discussed can be fixed while welcoming asylees.
Hung parliaments, or should I say, balanced parliaments, are not bad in general.
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Postby Great Britain eke Northern Ireland » Tue May 03, 2022 4:35 am

Nation of Hanguk wrote:We are in the most volatile times in terms of geopolitical tensions and socioeconomic upheaval. The UK must not turn back at refugees when (1) they were one of the contributing actors that produced these problems in the first place and (2) it has enough resources to accommodate them as a developed country. All those issues you discussed can be fixed while welcoming asylees.


1) the United Kingdom is under no obligation to devote its own resources (including land, finances and services) to those indirectly suffering as a result of its miscalculations and mistakes
2) the United Kingdom does not have enough resources when its own population struggles as is and are suffocating under the strain of excessive immigration, incompetent and fifth columnist leadership, and Globalisation
These cannot be resolved so long the (especially foreign) population continues to climb and the country is considered ‘global’.
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Postby Meadowfields » Tue May 03, 2022 7:02 am

Nation of Hanguk wrote:We are in the most volatile times in terms of geopolitical tensions and socioeconomic upheaval. The UK must not turn back at refugees when (1) they were one of the contributing actors that produced these problems in the first place and (2) it has enough resources to accommodate them as a developed country. All those issues you discussed can be fixed while welcoming asylees.
Hung parliaments, or should I say, balanced parliaments, are not bad in general.

I personally disagree, as hung parliaments sometimes delay the passing of important legislation and may leave a country without a government for a while. I personally like pre-election alliances as they make coalitions easier to form after an election.


The left must put aside its differences if it must overcome capitalism, because nothing will ever be achieved by divisiveness and factional argument.
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Postby Juansonia » Tue May 03, 2022 7:48 am

Agree, but Ideally close to when nukes are launched (Fourth international Posadist moment)

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The venn diagram of pro-brexit people and people who see Esperanto as an abomination is a circle in another circle.
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It's not equitable at all
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Tue May 03, 2022 7:51 am

Don’t necessarily disagree with it, as no wrong with working together with enemy to beat an even larger enemy, but not agreeing with all you said. We all need to set aside differences regardless of side of political compass.

AN: yea.

Sundowner’s boss battle needs to be a bit longer, so that the victory is a bit more satisfying.
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Postby Snowland » Tue May 03, 2022 8:14 am

Never played it, but I'll agree for your sake.

I've asked about this before on a different account, but wouldn't it be cool if there was a way to test political ideologies using a digital simulator?
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Postby Juansonia » Tue May 03, 2022 9:57 am

good idea, but whoever creates it would be at least somewhat biased.

Nuclear power counts as clean energy
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Right now, Pride gets June, and Greed, Envy, and Gluttony have to share Thanksgiving/Black Friday through Christmas, Sloth gets one day in September, and Lust gets one day in February.

It's not equitable at all
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Postby Meadowfields » Tue May 03, 2022 10:01 am

Juansonia wrote:good idea, but whoever creates it would be at least somewhat biased.

Nuclear power counts as clean energy

Nope. Uranium mining, which operate the vast majority of nuclear power plants, which may cause many severe health effects to people.


The Republican Party is not center-right, it's even to the right of Le Pen as stated by Le Pen's economic views (nationalization of major industries, welfare); almost all right-wing populist parties in Europe support universal healthcare and at least some welfare.
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Postby Hispida » Tue May 03, 2022 12:00 pm

neither party is center-right, they're both right-wing



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Postby Auzkhia » Tue May 03, 2022 4:42 pm

He only wronged the neocolonial economic order in West Africa, but that was a good thing so, agreed.

Abortion is only the tip of the iceberg, the end game for the American right-wing is literally fascism whether by cross or the dollar.
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Postby Hamidiye » Tue May 03, 2022 4:46 pm

No, their goal is total plutocracy...and they're damn close. In the end the god they really worship is just good old Mammon.

Emposing reforms on any country will never work from the outside, in that point Mao was right. Only a people themselves have the power to make real change. Only the people themselves are the driving force of change and history, if it's not the will of a significant majority it will neither succeed nor have lasting consequence. The people themselves are the engine of history.
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Postby Hispida » Tue May 03, 2022 4:50 pm

while i generally agree i should note that minority revolutions can also have extremely wide ranging consequences. depending on your viewpoint the october revolution was a minority revolution that had arguably the most impact on human history since the american revolution.



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Postby Free Ravensburg » Tue May 03, 2022 4:51 pm

Kinda agree, but yea he still not based in my eyes

AN: no

People need to learn that not everywhere is like where they are.
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