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Tohorin
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Postby Tohorin » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:01 pm

El-Sallia wrote:@Tohorin- what would you say are your prime inspirations in developing your lore, and what pointers can you offer for formatting and lore development?


My sorry rough draft of a thesis:
Tohorin wrote:...the aforementioned Mexica pilgrimage myth-history, a little Puebloan motifs, and a historical in-joke about outdated anthropological theories that tried to tie the Aztecs and Toltecs to migrations from East Asia; specifically, Alexander von Humboldt's ideas that were repeated a century later by the Kulturkreise School's (and it's successors') theory of diffusionism (roughly, how cultural traits/complexes can travel from one geographic area to another), best exemplified by Fritz Graebner IIRC, Walter Krickeberg, and later, also Paul Kirchhoff.


As for formatting lore develioment, I'd like to say I plan things but I don't...I brainstorm and write down possibly good ideas while discarding ones that may seem inconsistent. Whenever you're envisioning a culture, you first must ask yourself how the environment they're in affects how they live and what are their real and or imagined needs, how they perceive the world, how this affects their social structure, ethics and interactions with other groups, etc. In sum, what makes your nation and it's people tick. /SKIP ME
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Postby Reaper Squadron » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:04 pm

So, if everything with the skips have been sorted out...

El-Sallia wrote:snip

Do the colors on the flag mean anything? Like, why six colors?
"If you run, you gain one. Move forward, you gain two."
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Baizou
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Postby Baizou » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:19 pm

Howdy, Reaper Squadron!

1. If I'm understanding right, the artwork is from Ciconia no Naku Koro ni? Do any other elements of that story inspire Reaper Squadron, or is it mostly just the aesthetic?

2. Are you familiar with other 07th Expansion works, like Umineko? How did you become familiar with it/them (either Ciconia or 07th Expansion generally). If you're familiar with other works, do you have a favorite?

3. The factbooks provide a feel for Koshka's feelings toward/relationship with Alis, but what about the other Reapers? How do they feel about/relate to Alis? And does Alis have enough independent, non-computerified thought left to have her own feelings and relationship to the Reapers?
Premise: MT, VHSpunk, Japanese heritage, always 2004. | Factbook | Parties | Main Cast | Q&A | News
Stories From Baizou
"A Revolutionary Compromise," starring Meikawa Tomoko. | More to come?
Premier Fukushima
Ambassador Mizushima
Sovereign Haruto
Princess Consort Yuu
Rep. Meikawa
Councilor Akitamoto
CARRIE
Retired Sovereign Airi
Rep. Yutani
Flag features Ambassador Mizushima. OOC, user's pronouns are she/her.
It's 2004. MTish nation with videocassettepunk tech, Japanese heritage, minority of magic occult practitioners, casuistic Catholic plurality, sovereign deriving authority by Anglican coronation, and policymaking so byzantine parties wonder if it'd be easier to pursue agendas via international law.

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Postby Reaper Squadron » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:40 pm

Baizou wrote:
Howdy, Reaper Squadron!

1. If I'm understanding right, the artwork is from Ciconia no Naku Koro ni? Do any other elements of that story inspire Reaper Squadron, or is it mostly just the aesthetic?

2. Are you familiar with other 07th Expansion works, like Umineko? How did you become familiar with it/them (either Ciconia or 07th Expansion generally). If you're familiar with other works, do you have a favorite?

3. The factbooks provide a feel for Koshka's feelings toward/relationship with Alis, but what about the other Reapers? How do they feel about/relate to Alis? And does Alis have enough independent, non-computerified thought left to have her own feelings and relationship to the Reapers?

Hello ^^
1. Yes, the artwork is from Ciconia. The overall setting of Ciconia is also present in Reaper Squadron's world. The state of the world is the setting of Ciconia, with the AOU, COU, LATO, etc. Certain concepts (P3 and ricochet-flying) come from Ciconia as well.

2. Yep, I am familiar with 07th's works. In fact, the user behind this nation is also the user of Azur Deutschland. I remember stumbling across Umineko when searching for VNs to read through with a friend. This was also during the time that I was building and painting up my Flames of War Germans, so I started to listen to the soundtrack while painting. From there, I learned more about the ideas and themes of Umineko, what with the magic and all that. Thinking that was really cool, I started to add some Umineko influence into my already anime-themed FoW army.
All in all, I actually haven't read Higurashi or Ciconia, but I would like to soon.

3. Reaper Squadron all together has a tight bond of camaraderie and friendship. They are a close knit group who have been through the thick of hell and back. They are pretty much like-minded individuals when it comes to Alis. Alis does have some sense of self still present. I haven't really thought much of it yet, but I might write something about Koshka doing something to help Alis become more 'human' after finding out the secret of the ATAC. Said something would probably involve getting rid of some inhibitor or something that allows Alis to have more human emotions.


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Wochaystein
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Postby Wochaystein » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:44 pm

Baizou wrote:Howdy, Reaper Squadron!

1. If I'm understanding right, the artwork is from Ciconia no Naku Koro ni? Do any other elements of that story inspire Reaper Squadron, or is it mostly just the aesthetic?

2. Are you familiar with other 07th Expansion works, like Umineko? How did you become familiar with it/them (either Ciconia or 07th Expansion generally). If you're familiar with other works, do you have a favorite?

3. The factbooks provide a feel for Koshka's feelings toward/relationship with Alis, but what about the other Reapers? How do they feel about/relate to Alis? And does Alis have enough independent, non-computerified thought left to have her own feelings and relationship to the Reapers?

If you could choose to be famous for something, what would it be?
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Baizou
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Postby Baizou » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:51 pm

Wochaystein wrote:If you could choose to be famous for something, what would it be?

A bestseller. Wait, no, scratch that; that's a little too big. Um... If I were to be famous, I'd like it to be for a book that's highly influential in its subdiscipline or subgenre. I'm not looking to be on daytime TV or anything. But it'd be fun to know that my book matters to a specific community of people!

/skipme

More questions? Ah, thank you! Uh, writing those answers! ^^;
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Sanghyeok
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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:52 pm

Good morning/afternoon/evening, Baizou!
My question today pertains to your characterisation of figures in Baizou.

How do you manage to prevent elements of your own personality from entering the characters you create? All your characters seem to act genuinely and naturally according to their experiences and views, which I would find difficulty doing because I would either be unable to write them authentically or interject parts of myself such as attitudes or preferences (even writing Sayuri is a challenge for me).

One more unrelated question: what's your favourite kind of tea or soft drink?


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Why do you think I enjoy Ace Attorney?
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Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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El-Sallia
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Postby El-Sallia » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:09 pm

Reaper Squadron wrote:So, if everything with the skips have been sorted out...

El-Sallia wrote:snip

Do the colors on the flag mean anything? Like, why six colors?


IRL it was one of the proposed flags of the EU, as hosted on Wikipedia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe)
I've yet to determine what the colors mean, but it may be a "Six Races Under One Flag" kind of deal.

@Sanghyeok - Do Oomiya Sakura, etc. originate from Azur Lane or some such? The answer to that aside, what do you like about these characters?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:26 pm

El-Sallia wrote:
Reaper Squadron wrote:So, if everything with the skips have been sorted out...


Do the colors on the flag mean anything? Like, why six colors?


IRL it was one of the proposed flags of the EU, as hosted on Wikipedia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe)
I've yet to determine what the colors mean, but it may be a "Six Races Under One Flag" kind of deal.

@Sanghyeok - Do Oomiya Sakura, etc. originate from Azur Lane or some such? The answer to that aside, what do you like about these characters?

None of my characters come from Azur Lane (though I believe some of Azur Deutschland's characters do). Instead I find images my characters from general google searches such as "black haired popstar anime boy" (with the exception of Cho Maiko, for who I intentionally used images of Tenshi from Angel Beats! anime.) What do I like about those characters? Aesthetics and being young and carefree, I suppose.
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どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Baizou
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Postby Baizou » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:39 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Good morning/afternoon/evening, Baizou!
My question today pertains to your characterisation of figures in Baizou.

How do you manage to prevent elements of your own personality from entering the characters you create? All your characters seem to act genuinely and naturally according to their experiences and views, which I would find difficulty doing because I would either be unable to write them authentically or interject parts of myself such as attitudes or preferences (even writing Sayuri is a challenge for me).

One more unrelated question: what's your favourite kind of tea or soft drink?

Ah, thank you for the kind words about Baizou's characters! I do my best with them, and they're a lot of fun. As for how I keep them acting differently, I think it's a combination of a few things!

I used to do theater, and I've also played Dungeon & Dragons, always as the Dungeon Master. That's given me experience with playing characters, especially improvised, and text-based roleplaying is in some respects an easier form of that, as I have time to formulate my thoughts. But, I think there's a little more to it than just Dungeon Master experience.

I think some of it comes from each character actually having a little bit of me in them, and so when I write I focus on those memories or those experiences. I've lived nearly the full range of the practical political spectrum, from centerish "conservative"(?), to socially liberal/democratically socialist(?), to reformist Marxist, to where I am now which is... well, I'm not really sure where I am now! ^^; But it means that each character I have so far, I've actually sincerely held their beliefs at least in the past, and I usually imbue them with a little of my personality too. Mizushima has some of my seriousness, Meikawa and CARRIE have some of my (attempted) humor, for example. So in a way, maybe I'm cheating, haha! You asked me how I avoid injecting some of myself into their behavior, and I didn't avoid that. I just made it part of the characters from the beginning, and divided it up so each one gets a different bit of myself.

Another thing that probably makes it easier is that the forum roleplay format makes it so I can pick and choose when to use characters. A big challenge of writing prose like you're doing is that characters end up in unfamiliar situations, and you have to innovate how they react. While the forum obviously does introduce unfamiliar situations, I can pick and choose who to employ when. If I'm not sure how Fukushima would react to a news bulletin, but I'm really confident about how Akitamoto would respond, I do have the convenience of getting to shuffle characters around. Though in noticing that, I have tried to also challenge myself a little! Because unexpected scenarios is really one of the gems of the F7 experience!

Besides those "tricks," there's not much else to say besides I try to be really rigorous about character voice and backstory. I keep their stories and their outlooks on life squarely in mind while I write, and that helps keep them separate. In the conscious mind, I keep it pretty simple, but even a thought as simple as "Fukushima is polite but congenial, though she often tries to avoid what she worries would be controversial" can cue the mind to also recall other aspects of Fukushima's personality and integrate that awareness into how I write her dialogue.

Finally, the least "fun" part is that sometimes revision is necessary! I'll reread a post and occasionally change the language if I think Meikawa sounds too stiff and Miya-like or if I think Miya sounds too compromise-y and Fukushima-like. Usually it's just a word here or there, but I hope it really sells everyone as distinct and different people.

Okay, so that was a lot of text, ahaha. ^^; Now for your other question!

My favorite tea is mugicha. I like it both hot and cold, though I prefer drinking it cold. As for soft drinks, my favorite is melon cream soda!

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Ambassador Mizushima
Sovereign Haruto
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Councilor Akitamoto
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Postby Wip3d Out » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:38 pm

Sanghyeok...

You mention that OOC, you love plushies. Interested to know, which is your favourite plushie of the ones you own?
Back in 2040... A rapidly growing tech startup known as Radiant Systems promotes an ambitious new motorsport to the world in an effort to revive a near bankrupt European Federation.

Two centuries later, anti-gravity racing is the galaxy's dominant extreme sport, and we reap the benefits of governance through entertainment.


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Postby Baizou » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:07 pm

I think El-Sallia was skipped—I'll ask both of y'all a question.

El-Sallia wrote:colors

1. The references to Baldea and Post-Baldean—is El-Sallia in the Baltic region of the world, or is that a linguistic coincidence?

2. Also, the disturbance is called "post"-Baldean. In what way is it "after" Baldean-ness?

3. So El-Sallia has emerged from a past once dominated by the avatars of light and darkness and now is, from what I understand, a representative democratic republic. Is this operated by common consent, or by a constitution? Who drafted that constitution and how?

Wip3d Out wrote:plushies

1. You have profiles for several anti-gravity racing teams. Do you have a personal favorite?

2. Is the username a reference to the TV show Wiped Out, or is that a coincidence?

3. Belmondo's profile describes her racing career, but how did she rise to power as Grand Commissioner? Is that something she's appointed to, the way a board of directors picks a CEO? Or has the commission's transformation into a "state" made the commissioner-selection process more democratic?
Premise: MT, VHSpunk, Japanese heritage, always 2004. | Factbook | Parties | Main Cast | Q&A | News
Stories From Baizou
"A Revolutionary Compromise," starring Meikawa Tomoko. | More to come?
Premier Fukushima
Ambassador Mizushima
Sovereign Haruto
Princess Consort Yuu
Rep. Meikawa
Councilor Akitamoto
CARRIE
Retired Sovereign Airi
Rep. Yutani
Flag features Ambassador Mizushima. OOC, user's pronouns are she/her.
It's 2004. MTish nation with videocassettepunk tech, Japanese heritage, minority of magic occult practitioners, casuistic Catholic plurality, sovereign deriving authority by Anglican coronation, and policymaking so byzantine parties wonder if it'd be easier to pursue agendas via international law.

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Postby Wip3d Out » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:37 pm

Baizou wrote:1. You have profiles for several anti-gravity racing teams. Do you have a personal favorite?

2. Is the username a reference to the TV show Wiped Out, or is that a coincidence?

3. Belmondo's profile describes her racing career, but how did she rise to power as Grand Commissioner? Is that something she's appointed to, the way a board of directors picks a CEO? Or has the commission's transformation into a "state" made the commissioner-selection process more democratic?


1. Of the teams I've already written the lore on, my favourite would likely be Radiant Systems, because they were the pioneers of the sport. I'm still preparing the lore for Moore-Landra R&D though, and I'd totally support them if AG racing was real!

2. Nah, it's a direct reference to the video game series Wipeout, which is all about AG racing. I tried to come up with a more unique name, but as you can see, that failed.

3. Lydia Belmondo was chosen as the CEO of Sarridge after her retirement from racing. The Grand Commissioner (usually a CEO, although not always) is appointed every 6 years, based on which team wins the Ultra 10K league that year. Whoever wins, their chosen candidate becomes GC. So it's hardly a democratic system in reality.
Back in 2040... A rapidly growing tech startup known as Radiant Systems promotes an ambitious new motorsport to the world in an effort to revive a near bankrupt European Federation.

Two centuries later, anti-gravity racing is the galaxy's dominant extreme sport, and we reap the benefits of governance through entertainment.


We are Sarridge.gov, and we are FutureProof!

(This glimpse into the future is a registered trademark of Pulsroth)

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Postby El-Sallia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:46 pm

Baizou wrote:I think El-Sallia was skipped—I'll ask both of y'all a question.

El-Sallia wrote:colors

1. The references to Baldea and Post-Baldean—is El-Sallia in the Baltic region of the world, or is that a linguistic coincidence?

2. Also, the disturbance is called "post"-Baldean. In what way is it "after" Baldean-ness?

3. So El-Sallia has emerged from a past once dominated by the avatars of light and darkness and now is, from what I understand, a representative democratic republic. Is this operated by common consent, or by a constitution? Who drafted that constitution and how?


1. Linguistic coincidence.
2. The Kingdom of Baldea, whose last king was Laedin, was dominant during the second-to-last cold period of the Light-Dark conflict. When that war was inflamed, the Kingdom of Baldea and its castle were ruined; the vacuum was filled by what became the Empire of Reyguard. Hence the term Post-Baldean Disturbance.
3. It is a constitutional federated monarchy, but one in which the monarch - King Erwin I, nationally; various grand duchies and kingdoms in some federal subjects - maintains more power than a standard constitutional state. (Some places, such as the Insanlar provinces, various free cities and states, and former 'barbarian' tribes, have no monarch except the King; the power that would go to a hereditary ruler is therefore instead in the elected ruler's hands.) The Constitution was devised in a conference in a place I have yet to choose, by a general assembly of all interested parties, with priority given to those that had fought on the frontlines against the False Deities. Needless to say, there was a lot of haggling. The King and the late State Councilor did not have a fun time.

@Wip3d Out There any other racing in your country other than anti-grav?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:51 pm

Wip3d Out wrote:
Baizou wrote:1. You have profiles for several anti-gravity racing teams. Do you have a personal favorite?

2. Is the username a reference to the TV show Wiped Out, or is that a coincidence?

3. Belmondo's profile describes her racing career, but how did she rise to power as Grand Commissioner? Is that something she's appointed to, the way a board of directors picks a CEO? Or has the commission's transformation into a "state" made the commissioner-selection process more democratic?


1. Of the teams I've already written the lore on, my favourite would likely be Radiant Systems, because they were the pioneers of the sport. I'm still preparing the lore for Moore-Landra R&D though, and I'd totally support them if AG racing was real!

2. Nah, it's a direct reference to the video game series Wipeout, which is all about AG racing. I tried to come up with a more unique name, but as you can see, that failed.

3. Lydia Belmondo was chosen as the CEO of Sarridge after her retirement from racing. The Grand Commissioner (usually a CEO, although not always) is appointed every 6 years, based on which team wins the Ultra 10K league that year. Whoever wins, their chosen candidate becomes GC. So it's hardly a democratic system in reality.


Please use skips when you are answering a question and have no intent of asking AU your own question, or edit your post to answer their question.
BN: Please ask El-Sallia and Baizou a question.
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どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Subhurbia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:17 pm

Answering The Lordship of Trokondas:
1. My favorite part is answering threads on the National Information Section.
2. There are several defining characteristics, but one of the biggest ones is the widespread practice of alchemical science, as well as a strong connection with nature.

Question for El-Sallia: Do you plan on making a Wiki style factbook?
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Postby Aequalitatis ac Libertatis » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:14 pm

El-Sallia wrote:What do you like the most about Roman civilization?


I'm quite new to it, but the first thing I like that comes to my head is how they at least seemed to treat their conquered subjects quite well instead of forcing the conquered into their culture like other empires did

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Postby El-Sallia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:23 pm

Subhurbia wrote:Question for El-Sallia: Do you plan on making a Wiki style factbook?


That is the plan, yes.

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Postby Las Palmeras » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:51 pm

Subhurbia wrote:Answering The Lordship of Trokondas:
1. My favorite part is answering threads on the National Information Section.
2. There are several defining characteristics, but one of the biggest ones is the widespread practice of alchemical science, as well as a strong connection with nature.

Question for El-Sallia: Do you plan on making a Wiki style factbook?


Jokes to suburbia aside, I take that suburbs are not popular in your continent-spanning nation. You said that public transportation is highly advanced, how does this affect urban planning? Do different geographic zones vary in their urban layout?

@Brettenwald
What made you choose the 1960s for an IC time setting?


I can possibly get away with drawing the androgyneous Tohorinese in longer hairstyles. Geopolitics is relatively easy to comprehend and military aesthetics are cool. A time elegant enough to show continuity with past styles while remaining practical and not soulless and full of hideous boxy weapons like in PMT and FT. I also wished to explore an alternate space race. /SKI
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Postby Brettenwald » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:55 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:
Subhurbia wrote:Answering The Lordship of Trokondas:
1. My favorite part is answering threads on the National Information Section.
2. There are several defining characteristics, but one of the biggest ones is the widespread practice of alchemical science, as well as a strong connection with nature.

Question for El-Sallia: Do you plan on making a Wiki style factbook?


Jokes to suburbia aside, I take that suburbs are not popular in your continent-spanning nation. You said that public transportation is highly advanced, how does this affect urban planning? Do different geographic zones vary in their urban layout?

What made you choose the 1960s for an IC time setting?
BRETTENWALD
Factbook completion will occur when hell freezes over and this nation is basically what happens at 3 AM when I overdose on Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Game of Thrones. Trans rights or you're getting kneecapped.
Center-right largely-absolute monarchy populated by the majority-pagan descendants of a mix of Vikings, Iron Age German rednecks and the odd shipwreck survivor coming into its own on the world stage during the final stages of a 32-year watershed moment under the watchful eye of an emperor who was never supposed to be one. Strict MT, current year though lore posts are generally asynchronous. Brettain is a catchall demonym, flag waifu by Polish Prussian Commonwealth, NS stats not canon.

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Comerciante
Diplomat
 
Posts: 646
Founded: Dec 25, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Comerciante » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:23 pm

"Where's... Where are the military factbooks? I-I can't find them. I CAN'T FIND THEM! HELP! I'M NOT TRAINED FOR THIS!

It seems like you are in the middle of an overhaul on most of your work, what prompted you to make these changes if I might ask?

Finally, where did you be getting those images for your Prince Regents? do ya have the sauce?"

-OOC
"Rumors of CFC affiliates building superweapons in orbit over Earth is fake news. Watch groups have corroborated this even though it would be to quote the BoD "totally rad."

#00: "The first step to acquiring real power, is to learn how to steal it from someone else, the second step is learning how to keep it the third step is to restart from the first step."
"Good and Evil are Two Tall Trees sitting upon a hill, the Tree of Good is Strong and Tall and does not bend, the Tree of Evil is Short and Flimsy when the wind blows Good resists, and breaks and falls on the floor and dies and Evil? well, it bends and it lives."

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Brettenwald
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Posts: 4808
Founded: May 03, 2019
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Brettenwald » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:30 pm

Comerciante wrote:"Where's... Where are the military factbooks? I-I can't find them. I CAN'T FIND THEM! HELP! I'M NOT TRAINED FOR THIS!

It seems like you are in the middle of an overhaul on most of your work, what prompted you to make these changes if I might ask?

Finally, where did you be getting those images for your Prince Regents? do ya have the sauce?"

-OOC

General dissatisfaction with what little I had written combined with the realization that I actually enjoy doing this and should probably write one hell of a lot more if I want people to take me seriously. The reason I don't have military factbooks is twofold as well: I don't know enough about military equipment to make informed decisions and I hate the current state of International Incidents too much to make it worth giving a damn about in the first place. For the portraits, either Google Image search or safebooru.org. Wouldn't recommend using that last one on a school/work device, though, the site's supposedly SFW but they have a fairly relaxed definition of that.

/skipme
BRETTENWALD
Factbook completion will occur when hell freezes over and this nation is basically what happens at 3 AM when I overdose on Godspeed You! Black Emperor and Game of Thrones. Trans rights or you're getting kneecapped.
Center-right largely-absolute monarchy populated by the majority-pagan descendants of a mix of Vikings, Iron Age German rednecks and the odd shipwreck survivor coming into its own on the world stage during the final stages of a 32-year watershed moment under the watchful eye of an emperor who was never supposed to be one. Strict MT, current year though lore posts are generally asynchronous. Brettain is a catchall demonym, flag waifu by Polish Prussian Commonwealth, NS stats not canon.

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Feyrisshire
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Posts: 380
Founded: Nov 27, 2019
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Feyrisshire » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:34 pm

Aequalitatis ac Libertatis wrote:Why the catgirl obsession?


please @Las Palmeras help me in answering this question lol

Hmm... the catgirls didn't really come naturally with anime, nor with NS internal influences. One factor that influenced me though was the prominence of catgirls in Internet leftist community as meme (and also mascot), which explains why catgirls was the first thing that mattered here in this Dispatch, which actually was supposed to be a joke but few people realized it and why "Catgirl Communist Party of Feyrisshire" is different from "Communist Party of Feyrisshire"

ngl as time went on I then soon realized that catgirls, or being with catgirl, exhibit a lot of traits that deep within my heart I liked
Comerciante wrote:@Fey:

"First off an optional question that I won't pry into if you wish it to be so:

1. How much does your nation represent your views politically and otherwise? Is it an accurate representation or a bit of an exaggeration here and their?


Someone had already asked me this question before here

Personally I don't really feel like answering these questions directly, since a lengthy exposition of one's views is unbecoming for such a short question (that's for NSG). And I also don't like broadcasting one's views like [INSERT PRO AND ANTI IN SIG HERE] or make "OOC Dispatch" since sometimes I find that detracting for one's writing - which one's lore should presumably be a reflection of one's views no matter what

While I suspect that a lot of people already here in F7 are quite very much aware of my RL political views, my short answer is that I wouldn't consider Feyrisshire an "accurate representation" (implying that I would do in RL like in Feyrisshire 100%), but is also not in anyway an "exaggeration here and their".

Comerciante wrote:2. Your nation borders a LOT of superpowers or more exactly all 3 of them and while your projected manpower is about the equal of any one of them, I am surprised your nation was allowed to acquire so many dedicated arms, how'd ya make that happen?


First of all thanks for engaging about the MT military lore of Feyrisshire in a serious and constructive way, as I admit that few people seems to go deep within Feyrisshire's MT Military realism and simply see the "haha Communist Catgirls xd"

The simplest answer probably is that the acquisition of so many dedicated arms is not really that unusual in IRL. India for example operates hundreds of T-90 tanks and Russia somehow just sold it to them for some reason.

Another is that Feyrisshire wasn't really allowed to acquire so many dedicated arms. A lot of the arms sold to Feyrisshire were from earlier periods when the USSR and China were all still bona fide socialist and dedicated to international proletarianism, so a lot of that arms acquired were now obsolete, such as the hundreds of T-62s lying in tankyards. Russia didn't even allow Feyrisshire to acquire more T-90 tanks and advanced Sukhoi jets, forcing it to launch the domestic Kira Puraggaws MBT and Teimu Reischiye multirole jet fighter.

Comerciante wrote:3. How does your nation afford to maintain all these weapon systems? How do you account for advancing defense programs?"


First off I'm not sure what "account" means in this context, but I have a heuristic of treating it like an HOI4 game of R&D tech and thinking "How would they be able to advance to this level and at what speed?" meaning no MT powerwank. No spacecraft or mechas coming out of nowhere or no aircraft carriers if Feyrisshire doesn't need it.

The simplest answer again is that, Feyrisshire cannot afford to maintain all these weapons systems. A lot of the Feyris Militia actually are in disrepair or are underfunded in favor of some fields. Most of the military budget for example have gone to the Feyris nuclear weapons program and the Nuclear Triad in favor of anything else, but even some of the Nuclear Triad is in disarray The recently launched Feyris SSBN for example - KDR Kirara, is actually in disrepair and is not seaworthy.

A lot of the Air Force is lacking spare fuel and not all those planes are airworthy - leading to short training times for Feyris pilots. The Army however is definitely more funded than anything else, but even then it still sports a lot of obsolete equipment, such as T-62s, T-54s and very old SAMs such as Strela-10 or Osa. The big picture is a military that is capable in some respects, but also has lots of shortcomings.

I intended this as a deconstruction of the "MT Powerwank" archetype I often come across in NS nations where even though MT is normally accepted as more realistic than FT but it seems that most nations choose to go to have "suddenly 10 supercarriers xd route" when in reality they would not have had those. RPing as a realistic and underequipped military of a rogue regional power (think like Iran or DPRK) which have to rely on asymmetric warfare is I think more challenging but also more interesting.


To Commerciante again (it seems that I've been answering and then reasking the same person recently, such as with Atheris):

Does Giant Space Wyrm take place in the same setting as Commerciante? What is the relation between them in the same universe?
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Scherzinger
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Posts: 361
Founded: Aug 17, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Scherzinger » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:08 am

Feyrisshire wrote:
Aequalitatis ac Libertatis wrote:Why the catgirl obsession?


please @Las Palmeras help me in answering this question lol

Hmm... the catgirls didn't really come naturally with anime, nor with NS internal influences. One factor that influenced me though was the prominence of catgirls in Internet leftist community as meme (and also mascot), which explains why catgirls was the first thing that mattered here in this Dispatch, which actually was supposed to be a joke but few people realized it and why "Catgirl Communist Party of Feyrisshire" is different from "Communist Party of Feyrisshire"

ngl as time went on I then soon realized that catgirls, or being with catgirl, exhibit a lot of traits that deep within my heart I liked
Comerciante wrote:@Fey:

"First off an optional question that I won't pry into if you wish it to be so:

1. How much does your nation represent your views politically and otherwise? Is it an accurate representation or a bit of an exaggeration here and their?


Someone had already asked me this question before here

Personally I don't really feel like answering these questions directly, since a lengthy exposition of one's views is unbecoming for such a short question (that's for NSG). And I also don't like broadcasting one's views like [INSERT PRO AND ANTI IN SIG HERE] or make "OOC Dispatch" since sometimes I find that detracting for one's writing - which one's lore should presumably be a reflection of one's views no matter what

While I suspect that a lot of people already here in F7 are quite very much aware of my RL political views, my short answer is that I wouldn't consider Feyrisshire an "accurate representation" (implying that I would do in RL like in Feyrisshire 100%), but is also not in anyway an "exaggeration here and their".

Comerciante wrote:2. Your nation borders a LOT of superpowers or more exactly all 3 of them and while your projected manpower is about the equal of any one of them, I am surprised your nation was allowed to acquire so many dedicated arms, how'd ya make that happen?


First of all thanks for engaging about the MT military lore of Feyrisshire in a serious and constructive way, as I admit that few people seems to go deep within Feyrisshire's MT Military realism and simply see the "haha Communist Catgirls xd"

The simplest answer probably is that the acquisition of so many dedicated arms is not really that unusual in IRL. India for example operates hundreds of T-90 tanks and Russia somehow just sold it to them for some reason.

Another is that Feyrisshire wasn't really allowed to acquire so many dedicated arms. A lot of the arms sold to Feyrisshire were from earlier periods when the USSR and China were all still bona fide socialist and dedicated to international proletarianism, so a lot of that arms acquired were now obsolete, such as the hundreds of T-62s lying in tankyards. Russia didn't even allow Feyrisshire to acquire more T-90 tanks and advanced Sukhoi jets, forcing it to launch the domestic Kira Puraggaws MBT and Teimu Reischiye multirole jet fighter.

Comerciante wrote:3. How does your nation afford to maintain all these weapon systems? How do you account for advancing defense programs?"


First off I'm not sure what "account" means in this context, but I have a heuristic of treating it like an HOI4 game of R&D tech and thinking "How would they be able to advance to this level and at what speed?" meaning no MT powerwank. No spacecraft or mechas coming out of nowhere or no aircraft carriers if Feyrisshire doesn't need it.

The simplest answer again is that, Feyrisshire cannot afford to maintain all these weapons systems. A lot of the Feyris Militia actually are in disrepair or are underfunded in favor of some fields. Most of the military budget for example have gone to the Feyris nuclear weapons program and the Nuclear Triad in favor of anything else, but even some of the Nuclear Triad is in disarray The recently launched Feyris SSBN for example - KDR Kirara, is actually in disrepair and is not seaworthy.

A lot of the Air Force is lacking spare fuel and not all those planes are airworthy - leading to short training times for Feyris pilots. The Army however is definitely more funded than anything else, but even then it still sports a lot of obsolete equipment, such as T-62s, T-54s and very old SAMs such as Strela-10 or Osa. The big picture is a military that is capable in some respects, but also has lots of shortcomings.

I intended this as a deconstruction of the "MT Powerwank" archetype I often come across in NS nations where even though MT is normally accepted as more realistic than FT but it seems that most nations choose to go to have "suddenly 10 supercarriers xd route" when in reality they would not have had those. RPing as a realistic and underequipped military of a rogue regional power (think like Iran or DPRK) which have to rely on asymmetric warfare is I think more challenging but also more interesting.


To Commerciante again (it seems that I've been answering and then reasking the same person recently, such as with Atheris):

Does Giant Space Wyrm take place in the same setting as Commerciante? What is the relation between them in the same universe?

why do you believe in the mass murder and starvation of people. how evil are you?

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Tsarstvo Alyaski
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Posts: 896
Founded: Dec 30, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Tsarstvo Alyaski » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:11 am

An Austro - Hungarian Empire styled flag, huh? Does your country work in a similar way to the old country, you know, a dual monarchy?

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