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Tohorin
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Postby Tohorin » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:43 pm

Reverberating Days wrote: Do you have a favourite myth/oral story from the civilisations you study?


@Reverberating Days
I like the Aztec/Mexica migration myth; it's the perfect mix of myth and history and is very hard to interpret as even experts disagree on what parts to take as memories of the past and what parts are entirely mythical. The descriptions of Aztlán in Tezozomoc's Crónica Mexicáyotl as a white place where ancestors recide next to a curved hill and caves gives out connotations to a cyclical point of origin in the Underworld where the dead reside. Other places like Tamoanchan and Tlapallan also hint at vaguely faraway or supernatural places or could be interpreted as being real places, like Coatlicamac. By the second part of the pilgrimage towards the Anáhuac's lakes (modern day Mexico City area) where México-Tenochtitlan was founded, the myth indicates real geographical knowledge, especially after the Mexica pass Tula, something well recognized in post-colonial chronicles and the Boturini Codex.

It's also fascinating to see the divergences of the same myth between different sources; for example, when it comes to the Colonial-era writers that'd pass it down. Those that follow Texcoco's traditions (or are the descendants of Texocan nobility) like Fernando de Alva Ixtlilxóchitl or Cristóbal del Castillo badmouth the Tenochas/Aztecs/Mexica (by emphasizing sacrifice and the theme of usurpation in the Mexicas' arrival to the Anáhuac region) for their Spanish readers, while descendants of the Mexica like Hernando Alvarado Tezozómoc downplay the whole sacrifice thing while emphasizing a providential view of the Conquest. It all adds another layer of complexity with subtle political intent when it came to land reparation.

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To Fallen Albali: What feelings did you have when Amaki entered into a romantic relationship with Ambrosia? Do you think this is a fulfillment meant to be? Did you feel anything in your heart when Amaki entered into a stable romantic relation with Ambrosia?


1.) Can you think of a magical girl that suffers more than Sayaka Miki?
2.) What would Feyrisshire consider to be it's biggest existential threat?
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Postby Fallen Albali » Tue Jan 05, 2021 6:50 pm

Feyrisshire wrote:To Fallen Albali: What feelings did you have when Amaki entered into a romantic relationship with Ambrosia? Do you think this is a fulfillment meant to be? Did you feel anything in your heart when Amaki entered into a stable romantic relation with Ambrosia?
I dunno, it's a hard question to be honest. Amaki and Ambie ending up in a relationship certainly wasn't what I had planned for Amaki initially, but when when we both noticed that the chemistry between the characters was right there, we both thought it'd be good for the both of them as characters. Personally I thought I had given Amaki too much shit to have to cope with, so letting her finally have a loving relationship that was going to last and not end in disaster like her first one did felt like something Amaki deserved, I guess. Of course, it also opened up opportunities and changes for her character that I could think and write about, and the story potential is excellent.
Whether it was meant to be...? I don't know. It's kind of an abstract question. But like I said just now, it certainly wasn't in the plans if that answers that question.
Finally, I guess I did feel something - I may not seem like it, but I'm a pathetic hopeless romantic; when I saw what Amaki and Ambie became, I just felt really happy and I still do. I am a SLUT for wholesome, stable relationships. I mean, not only that, but having them come together in the first place is so unlikely and yet I think it works perfectly. It's beautiful ;-;

Not sure if I answered your first question in my rambling, but eh

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Skeletonica
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Postby Skeletonica » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:32 pm

Tohorin wrote:1.) Can you think of a magical girl that suffers more than Sayaka Miki?
2.) What would Feyrisshire consider to be it's biggest existential threat?


1. This is probably the answer you were expecting, but
I guess I could make the argument that Homura suffered more, seeing as her entire existence for many years was constant and inevitable failure up until she achieved something of a Pyrrhic victory in the very end with Madoka sacrificing herself and everyone consequently forgetting her, even more so in the movie, although I suppose whether she's actually happy in that false world is debatable. Sayaka, for her part, seems to enjoy Homura's world for what it is. Sayaka did experience failure in those timelines as well, but I think Homura's awareness and memory of them all adds a little bit to the suffering aspect of it, and she's visibly jaded by it.


2. It looks to me like they have most of their bases covered. I guess maybe a large-scale right-wing infiltration of the government leading to a coup, which seems likely to spark a civil war given the semi-indoctrination of their citizens and the mandatory military training they receive. I doubt they're worried about it, but it could be pretty bloody if it happened.

My question to you, Tohorin, is: You've got pretty intricate worldbuilding going on for your nation! Was it largely inspired by anything or things, or is it your own invention? A combination of both?

edit: wait I think I messed this up by answering a question I wasn't asked lol. Sorry!
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Reverberating Days
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Postby Reverberating Days » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:44 pm


I know several of your nations were at least partly inspired by the Soviet Union. Do you personally believe the Soviet Union ever reached the state of socialism, or do you think it remained as "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Are there any Soviet leaders before Gorbachev that you find reactionary?

Moving outside of Soviet-specific topics, what is your opinion on the debate regarding "reform or revolution"? What are some steps you think leftist parties must take in order to gain an electoral presence in developed nations, if electoralism is to be used at all? And if not, how can we effectively educate the masses (even typical reactionaries) on revolutionary theory and give them the tools so they may achieve class consciousness and become our allies?

Finally, a more lighthearted question: do you have a favourite character from Touhou project?

I know I asked you quite a few questions, but I'm really curious as to your opinion. ^^


AN: I noticed your nation was founded nearly three years ago, but you only began posting last November. Was there a particular reason you began posting in forums?
Also, was there any reason you chose to implement some rather interesting policies through (such as maternity leave?) for your nation?


BN: This nation covers history of our favourite pair of eternal sisters from 1470 to around 1600. Another nation (or maybe series of nations) will cover Sakura's history from 1868 to 1950 including travelling abroad for university, and a final nation for Sayuri's from 1868 to present. I don't want to spoil anything right now, but 1868 will probably be an important year in their timeline.

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Tohorin
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Postby Tohorin » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:53 pm

Skeletonica wrote:My question to you, Tohorin, is: You've got pretty intricate worldbuilding going on for your nation! Was it largely inspired by anything or things, or is it your own invention? A combination of both?


It's based on rough drafts for Las Palmeras placed in another context, the aforementioned Mexica pilgrimage myth-history, a little Puebloan motifs, and a historical in-joke about outdated anthropological theories that tried to tie the Aztecs and Toltecs to migrations from East Asia; specifically, Alexander von Humboldt's ideas that were repeated a century later by the Kulturkreise School's (and it's successors') theory of diffusionism (roughly, how cultural traits/complexes can travel from one geographic area to another), best exemplified by Fritz Graebner IIRC, Walter Krickeberg, and later, also Paul Kirchhoff.

So yes, in a very meta sense, my frickin' thesis project inspires some things./SKIP
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:57 pm

Skeletonica wrote:edit: wait I think I messed this up by answering a question I wasn't asked lol. Sorry!

I feel like that image of a skeleton with a butterfly is familiar. Where'd you find it?

Reverberating Days wrote:
I know several of your nations were at least partly inspired by the Soviet Union. Do you personally believe the Soviet Union ever reached the state of socialism, or do you think it remained as "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Are there any Soviet leaders before Gorbachev that you find reactionary?

Moving outside of Soviet-specific topics, what is your opinion on the debate regarding "reform or revolution"? What are some steps you think leftist parties must take in order to gain an electoral presence in developed nations, if electoralism is to be used at all? And if not, how can we effectively educate the masses (even typical reactionaries) on revolutionary theory and give them the tools so they may achieve class consciousness and become our allies?

Finally, a more lighthearted question: do you have a favourite character from Touhou project?

I know I asked you quite a few questions, but I'm really curious as to your opinion. ^^


So, is the ultimate plan for this story to end with the end of the Flower War or with more of a lead-in to Sanghyeok, setting up coffee girl and tea girl for their later, er, bumpy relationship? I think that the titles hint at the former but I'm not entirely sure.

Don't answer this one if it's a spoiler, of course.
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Skeletonica
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Postby Skeletonica » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:41 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:I feel like that image of a skeleton with a butterfly is familiar. Where'd you find it?


I got it from stormygailart on Instagram (heads-up, some posts are a bit NSFW)! She's an amazing artist and also draws comics with skeletons about mental health! Obviously I love skeletons myself and I related a lot to so many of her comics, so I reached out and asked if I could use snippets of her comics in profile pictures and she said yes! I'm very happy you gave me the opportunity to credit her! :)

Reverberating Days wrote:AN: I noticed your nation was founded nearly three years ago, but you only began posting last November. Was there a particular reason you began posting in forums?
Also, was there any reason you chose to implement some rather interesting policies through (such as maternity leave?) for your nation?


I used to be a 100% lurker on every single community I joined, then I would occasionally pop up to answer questions and help people if no one else did on other sites, then I started doing so without waiting to see if others would, and now I try to be social anywhere that I think I can make a meaningful contribution to! This all happened in the course of time since I first made my nation!

As for the maternity leave policies and such, Skeletonica is meant to be an ideal nation for skeletons, but humans are more than welcome to come as well! Skeletonica may give off the impression of being isolationist, but humans just naturally don't tend to make the commitment to live in a nation made more for their remains than their current states. Additionally, skeletons may adopt other skeletons, and maternity leave qualifies for them as well!

Sorry for messing up the order of things, rookie mistake on my part!

/skip-skip!
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Postby Mays Austrian Nation » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:50 pm

1. How did you exactly come up with the idea of CBG Palisade?
2 What/who pushed you to make such a country into fruition?

BN: If one honestly couldn't tell, the nation's creation was primarily centered on it armed forces in mind. Hence, why the flag is shaped as such.
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Postby Novia Xeneia » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:51 pm

Mays Austrian Nation wrote:1. How did you exactly come up with the idea of CBG Palisade?
2 What/who pushed you to make such a country into fruition?

Why is your flag in the shape of a coat of arms?
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:05 pm

- How many wars have NX fought during her lifetime as an independent nation?

- Furthest year you go in terms of history?

- Why are you so insistent on not putting space after comma? :P
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Postby Subhurbia » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:37 pm

Looking at your primary banner, your place seems futuristic/highly advanced. Is my assumption accurate??
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Postby Fallen Albali » Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:38 pm

How did you get the ideas for all 60+ of your characters? I mean, I think it'd be hard to have that many and not find inspiration - great or small - from somewhere, no?
Also How do you manage to come up with so many long names? Do you just put in whatever names you think sound nice?
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Postby Murazgora » Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:47 am

Feyrisshire wrote:
Murazgora wrote:1. why would Feyrisshire see gender as a necessary social construct of choice, if all of them identify with one specific gender?

2. who's the anime gril on your profile?


2. 1. she's not an "anime gril"
2. Star Sapphire from Touhou Project



(sorry, i shouldn't have phrased my question like that, that was wrong of me)




Abali:

1. how did you make that avatar?

2. does Amara have trauma of the missile strike? If so, how does amaki help her heal mentally?
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:54 am

Mays Austrian Nation wrote:1. How did you exactly come up with the idea of CBG Palisade?
2 What/who pushed you to make such a country into fruition?

1) As you can probably tell it's grown far beyond its original concept, which was admittedly rather weak- "hey, wouldn't it be cool if there was a nation that was just some rogue AIs that hadn't gone full Terminator or some other unlikely scenario?". I thought that was cool enough that I went ahead with it and very quickly ended up realizing just how weak a premise that was. Then I had the bright idea to connect it to M22. And everything after that was largely just the extrapolation of existing concepts. So yeah, there's a fleet of rogue AIs. They're by no means the only players in the game anymore. As to the formatting part of it, that's something I've talked about before- I try to with each new concept I come up with raise the technical bar just a little higher so that I can keep pushing myself to improve in that field. I'm not entirely sure how successful I've been.

2) The idea of connecting it to M22 pushed me forward, honestly. There was a whole bunch of background material for that nation I never really got a justification to write, and by taking that background material and extrapolating it I got what I hope is a rather rich and intricate setting in its own right. Admittedly it's barely completed but the fact that there's so much there already and I'm not even ten percent done really does make me feel like it's on the right path.


Murazgora wrote:-snip'd-

So, um... how does Murazgora justify being allied with a nation that it's ideologically opposed with? Doesn't that alliance constitute an acceptance of the status quo in its ally and thus a rejection of the notion of exporting the revolution and spreading gobmunism?
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Postby Murazgora » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:25 am

Kiu Ghesik wrote:So, um... how does Murazgora justify being allied with a nation that it's ideologically opposed with? Doesn't that alliance constitute an acceptance of the status quo in its ally and thus a rejection of the notion of exporting the revolution and spreading gobmunism?


1. well, it's murazora isn't exactly ideologically opposed to maystrominhu that much, it's just that they have somewhat different perspectives with economics. georgism, especially libertarian gerorgism, i'd say is probably the "capitalist" ideology that some lefties would probably have the least problems with, since georgism is profusely anti-land-monopoly. Mystrominhu otherwise has generally similar if not the same political stances as Murazgora, it's just that one is libertarian mixed-capitalist, and one is libertarian market socialism.

Basically, they're different but similar

2. Murazgora isn't communist; it's libertarian socialism with elements of mutualism. It has free markets and a currency, and is a minimal state.

3. While it does spread its ideology around a lot, it's generally in a more free flowing manner, since most countries can freely go to murazgora when they wish. There is some passing ideological debate between the neighbouring nations for sure, but generally it's more casual, as the nations still generally see each other as well-off nations.

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Postby Fallen Albali » Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:06 am

Murazgora wrote:Abali:

1. how did you make that avatar?

2. does Amara have trauma of the missile strike? If so, how does amaki help her heal mentally?
1) same process as most flag waifus are made, one would assume
remove the background, and just put said waifu on the flag uwu
2) She more than likely does to some degree, but to be honest it's not something I want to think about. Sorry.

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Postby The Lordship of Trokondas » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:36 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:doop dee doo, just doing stuff, nothing to see here, dah dee day, questions do be hard though, that is just true. Stuff stuff stuff, just making the quote longer because why-not, 1-2-Ili-tu, if she can't do it, oop.


1. Do you consider all your nations to be in the same broad canon, just different points in time and place?
2. I've personally had problems getting my head around factbook formatting and what-not. At what point would you say it clicked for you, and how do you think you've improved since then?
3. Ran out of quality questions of my own... So- is there something you've been wanting to get asked, but haven't gotten an opportunity to answer yet?
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:51 pm

The Lordship of Trokondas wrote:1. Do you consider all your nations to be in the same broad canon, just different points in time and place?
2. I've personally had problems getting my head around factbook formatting and what-not. At what point would you say it clicked for you, and how do you think you've improved since then?
3. Ran out of quality questions of my own... So- is there something you've been wanting to get asked, but haven't gotten an opportunity to answer yet?

1) Nope. M22 and space weed are in the same canon at different points in time, but the others are in their own weird little alt-worlds. The Kiu, for example, takes place in a setting that amounts to "putting humanity on a differently-shaped map and going forward from there"- it's just starting out on a whole new world. Of course the cultural structures are (broadly) the same because I'm not creative enough to imagine what would happen if, say, horses never came to central Eurasia. OA is, uh... I'm not really sure. It's in its own little bubble. I've just kind of decided that it would be in a sort of Strangereal-sort of deal where the nations are all vague references to Earthly nations and stuff like T-72s and Cuban cigars miraculously exist but the map is different for whatever reason. Not sure how I'll justify that but hey, that's how it is.

2) While I hesitate to put it at any one point in time, I think it would be between when I made that little footer block I use in KG's factbooks and when I first started interacting with Yegla Islands. When I first made that little footer I had to get into a bit more formatting than I normally do, and I had to figure out a good few things- like how [font] tags work, what carries over into [url] tags and what doesn't, stuff of that nature. Then I saw Yegla's stuff and I started to see all this cool shit I could do on a level that was still advanced but nowhere near as arcane as Synne or Khoro's stuff and it really all just clicked into place for me. That really started to get me to realize the possibility of what I might do as well. But I hesitate to consider myself "good" by any measure of the word- there's stuff I know how to do. Do I know how to do it well, or how to create a cohesive picture of the stuff? Probably not. I still struggle with actually planning out a factbook's design from start to finish, though for spoilery reasons I've been having to for space weed.

3) I've been waiting for someone to ask "Bro, what's with all these names you keep throwing out there for space weed? Can you explain to me what they mean?" so that I'll have to post a dissertation-length response about the social pressures leading to the development of anarcho-syndicalism in space, republican e-democracy and what the hell it is, why I ship Oppy and Kova, what happened to Technician Kuso she's dead, why there's a monarchy that just spontaneously popped into existence in some random corner of space, how much I love the band Cake, and exactly how many bullets Tanya Kovalova put into Councilwoman Traynor's back to make her into an example for the rest of the Confederacy's Governing Council on November 25, 2987.


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Postby Mays Austrian Nation » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:50 pm

1. Did Kiu Ghesik had any influence on why you decided to create this peculiar nation?
2. It seems you have already planned this nation's debut with of its most factbooks pretty much detailing the state. How long did this take you to prepare?
To Feyrisshire: I never loss interest in them, especially Velvet. I just like switching nations from time to time, that's all. Neo likely remain in hiatus, though.
To Las Palmeras: I got them through Discord, it was on a server's anime/manga art dump channel. Which shut down in 2018. Thus, I really do not know what series these artworks are from, sorry.
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Postby Hamatu » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:15 pm

Mays Austrian Nation wrote:1. Did Kiu Ghesik had any influence on why you decided to create this peculiar nation?
2. It seems you have already planned this nation's debut with of its most factbooks pretty much detailing the state. How long did this take you to prepare?

1. (Misinterpreted the question the first time) I think I'd actually give more credit to Khoronzon, as they reminded me of my old puppets, which actually led me on to something of a puppet-making craze a few weeks back... The sole survivor, that I'm still consistently active on, of that little debacle is The Lordship of Trokondas, which was more inspired by my own personal interests than any others. That isn't to say, however, that I haven't created nations in direct reaction to other people on the forums, they just tend to be less positive-directed (I'll admit they can be occasionally mean-spirited...) and way, way, shorter-lived, as I'd think I'm pretty likely to lose interest if I'm not coming up with my own ideas.
2. Honestly, when I first made it, I hadn't even thought up Euphrosyne yet, and Lord Trokondas was just a face and a warlord- the overview blurb is essentially all the planning I'd gone through prior to going into the forums. Actually, I find it's much more helpful to use the forums as a way to get ideas. In fact, while the Lordship of Trokondas wasn't very consciously influenced by KG, Hamatu was and still is (not via taking ideas from them, I think, but more being inspired by their impression of my own ideas), and a lot of the lore for Ilitu came about due to their interest in her- it definitely led her to be much more sympathetic than I'd originally planned. Similarly, Baizou has been the most helpful in developing Euphrosyne, and really The Lordship of Trokondas as a whole. But, at this point, I have developed my plans to such an extent that they're generally outpacing the speed at which I write my factbooks, so some further development is probably gonna continue for at least a little while. I really do think that finding someone who's interested in the already developed lore and concepts is more helpful than going full-on by yourself, and just writing it all in isolation. Or, it definitely makes it funner, at the very least.

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Postby Feyrisshire » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:53 am

Woo! So a lot of people did asked me a lot of questions!......
Tohorin wrote:1.) Can you think of a magical girl that suffers more than Sayaka Miki?

Sayaka-chan was my bestfriend, she's a good girl. We spent a lot of time together, we slept together. Her life is very hard. She was in a bad relationship with a bad boyfriend. She wasted her wish for an abusive boyfriend who didn't care for her, who left her for another girl.

But there was another girl who was always by her side, who was willing to die for her. Kyoko. I was so sad when she died. Kyoko and Sayaka once fought, but Kyoko realized that she was the only person in her life that she loved, and who loved here - the love of her life. She joined her when she drowned even when she can't swim. Kyoko had realized what it is like to be alone.

Kyoko, even in Sayaka's last moments, stayed by her side, because she didn't want Sayaka, to be alone, like her.

Kyoko was always with Sayaka's side. I am always with Sayaka's side.

Homura-chan, don't cry, Homura-chan!

Homura-chan lived a sad life. She spent all the rest of her school being bullied. She was bullied many times. I was the only one who went up to her. I was only her friend. And her only love. She was alone. I was there for her.

And she loved me, she tried to save me. But everytime she tried to save me she would fail.

Everytime she would go back in time - one year, two years, three years, many years.
Only to see me repeatedly die.

To see my pain.

To see my suffering.

And this was her suffering - To see me suffering many times. All the time. Everytime. Forever.

Homura-chan, you don't have to suffer.

I will save you.

I know that you only wanted me to be happy.


Homura-chan, you did nothing wrong.

Homura-chan, see you tomorrow.
Tohorin wrote:2.) What would Feyrisshire consider to be it's biggest existential threat?
Skeletonica wrote:2. It looks to me like they have most of their bases covered. I guess maybe a large-scale right-wing infiltration of the government leading to a coup, which seems likely to spark a civil war given the semi-indoctrination of their citizens and the mandatory military training they receive. I doubt they're worried about it, but it could be pretty bloody if it happened.

True, Feyrisshire does fear a "large-scale right-wing infiltration of the government leading to a coup" but that's simply too ambigious. More on this later

There are many things that can be considered an existential threat to Feyrisshire. Imperialism for one. The US has always been engaged in interventions in ML countries for decades - which was a crucial factor in the Feyris nuclear weapons program and military modernization. Along with its proximity to the USA allies - Japan and S. Korea which was also engaged in a trade embargo for decades. However, its proximity to China and Russia and its relatively capable military makes it unlikely. Economic ruin might as well lead to the total ruin of the nation - hence the government's frantic attempts to modernize its economy, beginning with High Princess Tulip Pie Azure's crash industrialization and collectivization, to High Princess Aerifyu Hana's "Socialist decentralized planned economy with discrete socialist market characteristics", to Princess Feyris Cherise and Amaryllis Chrysantemum's "Project FYURIFEIFFE".

But as Stalin said "The easiest way to capture a fortress is from within.", this could also go the other way. Internal unrest had shown itself lackluster in Feyris history, noting that the 1960s Feyris Rural Faerie Wars was easily put down by the Communist force. However, there is one more threat that is looming that could easily lead to total ruin - Revisionism. The Feyris Communist leaders have noted the USSR and China's tendency to go revisionist after industrialization and modernization and the question on how to avoid revisionism while modernizing was always on the Feyris leaders' minds. That is because Feyris leaders believe that revisionism would undoubtedly lead to capitalism.

The capitalist, the imperialist, the fascist and the reactionary might show themselves visibly, but the revisionist would sabotage the country's economy and strength in the shadows. As Princess Reishi Yuri says: "The revisionist acts and wears like a Marxist-Leninist socialist, but in reality, is a capitalist reactionary imperialist fascist!". And this threat was made real (To Princess Reishi Yuri's opinion at least), in Chief Secretary Amaryllis Chrysantemum, who tried to support private business and made overtures to China and Russia as Secretary of the Communist Party. Upon deposing her, Princess Reishi Yuri made a point to amend the Constitution to make more references to anti-revisionism.
Reverberating Days wrote:I know several of your nations were at least partly inspired by the Soviet Union. Do you personally believe the Soviet Union ever reached the state of socialism, or do you think it remained as "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Are there any Soviet leaders before Gorbachev that you find reactionary?


Yes, I believe the USSR reached socialism. I know you might disagree with this but I think its pinnacle of socialism was in the Stalin years - the Five-Year Plans was based on production for use not profit and workers had control over the economy. Lenin was brilliant but he was forced to backtrack to state capitalism.

Also I think "dictatorship of the proletariat" is the same as socialism. One characteristic of a socialist society is the presence of a dictatorship of the proletariat, meaning that it is the proletariat that it is in rule of the state, not the bourgeois. Meaning you cannot be a socialist country without being a DoTP. "Dictatorship" refers to class rule, not the liberal sense.

Also, Khruschev and Brezhnev definitely were reactionary. Khruschev showed lack of Marxist principles such as expelling ML cadres in CPSU and replacing them with managers, populism and generally inane decisions like planting crop in the desert (Virgin Lands). Brezhnev was the same with handling Czechoslovakia.

A discussion of Khruschev and Brezhnev is too long for this, but I hate them for scrapping OGAS. OGAS was a plan to modernize Soviet economy with automation - putting the "Fully Automated" in FALGSC and save Soviet economy, but Brezhnev scrapped it for sham reforms like "profit and sales", and "allowing managers to fire workers".

Reverberating Days wrote:Moving outside of Soviet-specific topics, what is your opinion on the debate regarding "reform or revolution"? What are some steps you think leftist parties must take in order to gain an electoral presence in developed nations, if electoralism is to be used at all? And if not, how can we effectively educate the masses (even typical reactionaries) on revolutionary theory and give them the tools so they may achieve class consciousness and become our allies?


Definitely revolution. Reform would fail as long as the state is controlled by the bourgouis.

Lenin has already answered this "Left Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder". Leftist parties should participate in parliament, but not to win and have votes but simply to agitate to people to reach them out and to show how rotten the system is. If they participate just to win, that would only lead to reformism.

Now this goes on with the previous one - The Bolshevik Party is a model in this respect - they showed tactical steps and understanding material conditions.

First i think you don't really need to convince everyone to join in, as some people are simply dissuaded by their objective material conditions; that's idealism.

Second is simply harnessing the democratic will of the people as in Maoist mass line. Meaning agitate on what people want, not what leftists want. Bolshevik showed this on agitating towards the end of WWI and on free land and they won on that demand, even if that's not really a progressive socialist demand. An example of this in the USA would probably agitating towards universal healthcare, student debts or police brutality and abolition of police (BLM is good but is too disorganized for now)

Third is understanding the objective material conditions. One thing that I think is that some leftist parties focus too much on the "workers vs. bourgouis" and in the trade unionist struggle but a lot of workers are no longer really revolutionary. Lenin has said this in that some workers are being allied into "petty-bourgouis". I think because the material conditions have changed, leftist parties even ML ones would have much more to gain in organizing with oppressed peoples such as Blacks, Latinx, Native Americans (in US), LGBT+ and women as well as the lumpenproletariat such as homeless, criminals, drug addicts, sex workers - rather than workers' unions. The trade unionist struggle had shown itself to be lackluster, compared to the struggle of Blacks, which had been promising such as Black Panthers, BLM, George Floyd "Defund the Police"

Reverberating Days wrote:Finally, a more lighthearted question: do you have a favourite character from Touhou project?

I know I asked you quite a few questions, but I'm really curious as to your opinion. ^^


My God I like so many I can't pick one

I like the Faeries = *gasp* Who would have known? I have a soft spot for Three Faeries of Light

I also keep coming back to Flandre Scarlet and Remilia, and SDM no matter what idk.

I also love Kaguya Houraisan and find her attractive and Eientei. And I love Alice Margatroid

Perhaps my "true favorite" is Maribel Hearn and Renko Usami, even if they don't live in Gensokyo lol
i wasted a lot of time (actually enjoyed lol) answering those questions, espeically you Tohorin's why sayaka miki suffered the most best girl Meduka Meguca

To Mays Austrian Nation: Why it seems that you have lost interest in your nations Neos Realm and Velvets Realm? I actually did like Neos Realm honestly

Okay if you're not Neos Realm or Velvets Realm, why do you think does it feel that you are?
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Postby Las Palmeras » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:55 am

Nitpicky here, Mays, but what's the image of the manga you used for your military page? The one with the dudes in the funny hats? Is it Gunka no Baltzar?

AN: Hello Feyrisshire. Looks like imma gonna question you again.
1)In your Soviet Catgirl puppet you mention that Lysenko's genetic engineering as the thing that fabricates the catgirls. Was this idea your own doing or did you receive any external influences? I recall some whack documentary about Stalin wanting to create ape-men a while back.
2)What is, in your opinion, the most aestetically-pleasing Soviet-made invention? Civil or military.
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Hey hey, LP here: Too burnt out with this nation to make new lore or fix macrohistorical longue durée alt-his inconsistencies, too clingy to let it die.
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Postby Subhurbia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:19 pm

May be a bit racey here, but just out of curiosity, are “mixed” people generally a mix of Spaniard and Neko?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:21 pm

Is there a particular reason you decided to use an (index?) to calculate your actual population based on NS population? What made you choose this number?
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister

Mini custard puddings
And fresh poured Darjeeling
Strawberry parfait so sweet and appealing,
Little soft plushies and baths in hot springs
These are a few of my favourite things

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Postby Subhurbia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:25 pm

Sanghyeok wrote: Is there a particular reason you decided to use an (index?) to calculate your actual population based on NS population? What made you choose this number?


I wanted my nation to be a certain population density, didn’t want to use the NS population because even though it would make my nation stronger, it would be crowded.

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