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Red Lake Circle
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Thu May 19, 2022 10:33 pm

Frisemark wrote:People who have military factbooks but then their military equipment is a bunch of stuff they just thought was cool…

…but in reality all of it uses different measurement standards, or avionics, or weaponry or parts yadda yadda.

I dunno. This is a tiny thing that’s more for my other hardware geeks here but I see it a lot :meh:

One of the reasons why I haven't created my military factbook yet, honestly lol

I know way more about nation-building and politics than I do modern arms and equipment (at best, I know a fair bit about medieval warfare), so I'm not really sure how I would build a military out (especially considering my nation's weird schizotech)

Are there any good resources you know for this sort of thing?
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Postby Meadowfields » Fri May 20, 2022 4:54 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Frisemark wrote:People who have military factbooks but then their military equipment is a bunch of stuff they just thought was cool…

…but in reality all of it uses different measurement standards, or avionics, or weaponry or parts yadda yadda.

I dunno. This is a tiny thing that’s more for my other hardware geeks here but I see it a lot :meh:

One of the reasons why I haven't created my military factbook yet, honestly lol

I know way more about nation-building and politics than I do modern arms and equipment (at best, I know a fair bit about medieval warfare), so I'm not really sure how I would build a military out (especially considering my nation's weird schizotech)

Are there any good resources you know for this sort of thing?

Same! The only thing I really know about military is basic medieval fighting skills, military divisions, and some tactics, I can't even start with all the descriptions about the weapons and stuff.
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Gonswanza
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Postby Gonswanza » Fri May 20, 2022 5:39 pm

Frisemark wrote:People who have military factbooks but then their military equipment is a bunch of stuff they just thought was cool…

…but in reality all of it uses different measurement standards, or avionics, or weaponry or parts yadda yadda.

I dunno. This is a tiny thing that’s more for my other hardware geeks here but I see it a lot :meh:

Eh, I try to keep things with some semblance of order, but it's also reliant on handwaving so I can screw around in II without too much care for my own hardware.

Honestly I'm not that much of a hardass for realism.

HOWEVER!

It does annoy me when suddenly people walk in saying they are MT, then whip out 5 gigacarriers, each one the size of a small country, every square inch covered in guns, and they expect me to somehow NOT notice it... And then, to further that, they lack escorts. Any attempts to throw a hypersonic weapon against it (be it a ballistic missile, hypersonic cruise missile or even a hypersonic glide vehicle) are (somehow) thwarted and putting a minor dent in it with anything is deemed godmodding.

Or this idea that somehow modern tech allows for superweapons a la Ace Combat, like the Arsenal Bird.

A reminder that in the Ace Combat universe, there was a massive jump in tech for a variety of reasons, hence, what is "modern" in that world would be "post modern" to NS, given such feats of engineering are not even remotely possible in an MT world.

Also this really, really dumb idea of "let's make everything bigger coz bigger is better". No, that's not how it works. Stop it. And stop making me cringe every time I have to scroll through a military factbook of an "MT" nation who has more Rattes than there are people in New York City, but the only thing making them "modern" is the fact that they are using composite armor on a comically grand scale.
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Postby Great United States » Fri May 20, 2022 7:54 pm

people seriously need to put more effort in the AN all endings thread
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Postby Perikuresu » Fri May 20, 2022 7:55 pm

Great United States wrote:people seriously need to put more effort in the AN all endings thread

people need to put more effort into F7 in general, not constitution long essays just be succinct and justify why you think that way
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Tea Chuggers
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Postby Tea Chuggers » Fri May 20, 2022 7:57 pm

Yeah, I know I definitely could be a lot better at putting even some effort into F7 replies again. But then, be the change and all that.
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Frisemark
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Frisemark » Fri May 20, 2022 8:04 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
Frisemark wrote:People who have military factbooks but then their military equipment is a bunch of stuff they just thought was cool…

…but in reality all of it uses different measurement standards, or avionics, or weaponry or parts yadda yadda.

I dunno. This is a tiny thing that’s more for my other hardware geeks here but I see it a lot :meh:

HOWEVER!

It does annoy me when suddenly people walk in saying they are MT, then whip out 5 gigacarriers, each one the size of a small country, every square inch covered in guns, and they expect me to somehow NOT notice it... And then, to further that, they lack escorts. Any attempts to throw a hypersonic weapon against it (be it a ballistic missile, hypersonic cruise missile or even a hypersonic glide vehicle) are (somehow) thwarted and putting a minor dent in it with anything is deemed godmodding.


Countries with the GDP of Canada having a fleet of nuclear supercarriers will forever pop mini-blood vessels in my brains when they try and actually use those in II or RMB threads.


Red Lake Circle wrote:
Frisemark wrote:People who have military factbooks but then their military equipment is a bunch of stuff they just thought was cool…

…but in reality all of it uses different measurement standards, or avionics, or weaponry or parts yadda yadda.

I dunno. This is a tiny thing that’s more for my other hardware geeks here but I see it a lot :meh:

One of the reasons why I haven't created my military factbook yet, honestly lol

I know way more about nation-building and politics than I do modern arms and equipment (at best, I know a fair bit about medieval warfare), so I'm not really sure how I would build a military out (especially considering my nation's weird schizotech)

Are there any good resources you know for this sort of thing?


Wikipedia (unironically), Shipbucket and Gunbucket (the latter two for visuals) are your best friends if you need to find important stats about equipment, or similar things as guidelines of what to go off of. Pimp My Gun is also an option for visual ideas, but I don't like the look of that, so I don't use it.
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Itielia
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Postby Itielia » Fri May 20, 2022 8:37 pm

Honestly, countries based around a certain ideology, with the whole society organised according to it, it being the most if not the only existing way of thinking within the borders. Day-to-day politics is about proper execution of this ideology, and not bread-and-butter issues of (mis)appropriation of resources.

Also leaders under the age 40 or even 35 being common and absolutely normal.
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Postby Tea Chuggers » Fri May 20, 2022 9:07 pm

Itielia wrote:Honestly, countries based around a certain ideology, with the whole society organised according to it, it being the most if not the only existing way of thinking within the borders.

But of course! You can make your nation anything in this game (unlike in real life, where you have to contend with politicians wanting to keep the status quo and people fighting over what's the best path moving forward), so why not make it a hive-mind where everyone thinks the exact same, completely coincidentally my personal ideology, especially in a libertarian paradise of rights and freedoms? My beliefs are obvious and correct, and for my nation to still struggle to come to the same conclusions I have might give others the impression that I don't have them!
And I know this is the mindset, because I often lapse into this mindset myself; it's both easier than trying to think up opposition and a nice bit of escapism from the chaotic real world
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Postby Frisemark » Fri May 20, 2022 9:17 pm

>Be me
>Make high quality post in F7 thread with all the bells and whistles
>Feel all proud about myself
>someone responds with what amounts to "haha I keel you get rekt!!!"
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Postby Dayganistan » Fri May 20, 2022 9:30 pm

Frisemark wrote:>Be me
>Make high quality post in F7 thread with all the bells and whistles
>Feel all proud about myself
>someone responds with what amounts to "haha I keel you get rekt!!!"

Honestly, when FT nations and fantasy nations with monsters and demons and what not come into the how do your soldiers feel about fighting AN's soldiers thread just to say how much of a cakewalk going after MT and PMT nations is it's kind of annoying.
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Postby Gonswanza » Fri May 20, 2022 9:32 pm

Frisemark wrote:>Be me
>Make high quality post in F7 thread with all the bells and whistles
>Feel all proud about myself
>someone responds with what amounts to "haha I keel you get rekt!!!"

#owned
#pwned

lol totes nuked bro

No but seriously why do people do this and only this.
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Red Lake Circle
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Red Lake Circle » Fri May 20, 2022 9:40 pm

Dayganistan wrote:
Frisemark wrote:>Be me
>Make high quality post in F7 thread with all the bells and whistles
>Feel all proud about myself
>someone responds with what amounts to "haha I keel you get rekt!!!"

Honestly, when FT nations and fantasy nations with monsters and demons and what not come into the how do your soldiers feel about fighting AN's soldiers thread just to say how much of a cakewalk going after MT and PMT nations is it's kind of annoying.

God, I still remember how during one of the (many) slave market threads, someone said that slavery was unacceptable and that they wanted to raid the area to which some space tech nation (I forget which one) said something like, "I align all of my anti-matter bombs on your location. Are you sure about that, buddie?" or something like that

It was just one of those moments where I went, "Oh... some people are just here to play god I guess..."
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Fri May 20, 2022 9:45 pm

On another note, I feel like a lot of nations are very cavalier with nukes in a way that's... er, very uncomfortable to me? Like, having nukes is fine and good - most modern nations have them, why shouldn't yours? - but then you have some factbooks I've read where someone lists the circumstances in which they'll use nukes and one of them will just be some shit like, "If it helps advance a war goal quickly," which... that's certainly a way you can get your own nation bathed in nuclear hellfire, I'll give 'em that
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Postby Frisemark » Fri May 20, 2022 9:58 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:On another note, I feel like a lot of nations are very cavalier with nukes in a way that's... er, very uncomfortable to me? Like, having nukes is fine and good - most modern nations have them, why shouldn't yours? - but then you have some factbooks I've read where someone lists the circumstances in which they'll use nukes and one of them will just be some shit like, "If it helps advance a war goal quickly," which... that's certainly a way you can get your own nation bathed in nuclear hellfire, I'll give 'em that


Most people have little knowledge of atomic science, especially atomic weaponry. This is especially prevalent whenever people have a nuclear plant under construction near them. The ones on this website who are more...liberal in their nation's deployment of the weapons just think explosions cool and nuke make big boom.

They don't think about what would actually happen if, in a conventional peer-to-peer conflict, a developed country decided to deploy tactical nuclear weapons and presume a limited nuclear exchange.

Not to mention the disastrous environmental and geopolitical consequences of deploying nuclear weapons in a tactical capacity. Every nation in the modern age would immediately cut ties to you and whatever UN-equivalent your timeline has would absolutely go in on you, under the assumption your country is a threat to world peace and completely willing to use its nuclear armaments.
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Postby Diaboland » Fri May 20, 2022 10:11 pm

This is why I don't do war RPs. My nation is immensely powerful, but I don't want to be annoying about it. I prefer a pacifist nation to better align with my IRL views and to ensure a good, healthy status quo.

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Postby Gonswanza » Fri May 20, 2022 10:18 pm

Frisemark wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:On another note, I feel like a lot of nations are very cavalier with nukes in a way that's... er, very uncomfortable to me? Like, having nukes is fine and good - most modern nations have them, why shouldn't yours? - but then you have some factbooks I've read where someone lists the circumstances in which they'll use nukes and one of them will just be some shit like, "If it helps advance a war goal quickly," which... that's certainly a way you can get your own nation bathed in nuclear hellfire, I'll give 'em that


Most people have little knowledge of atomic science, especially atomic weaponry. This is especially prevalent whenever people have a nuclear plant under construction near them. The ones on this website who are more...liberal in their nation's deployment of the weapons just think explosions cool and nuke make big boom.

They don't think about what would actually happen if, in a conventional peer-to-peer conflict, a developed country decided to deploy tactical nuclear weapons and presume a limited nuclear exchange.

Not to mention the disastrous environmental and geopolitical consequences of deploying nuclear weapons in a tactical capacity. Every nation in the modern age would immediately cut ties to you and whatever UN-equivalent your timeline has would absolutely go in on you, under the assumption your country is a threat to world peace and completely willing to use its nuclear armaments.

Tbh I just go with the waving of "first strike policy only when it is most beneficial as an option of last resort, otherwise, let the other guy shoot first" as a general rule of thumb, but the way it's written infers otherwise.

That aside though I'd rather refer to chemical warfare only under dire circumstances where it's generally agreed upon that yes, WMDs should be used, if not are outright justified due to hostile parties using them first.
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Postby Ahkara » Fri May 20, 2022 10:27 pm

Frisemark wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:On another note, I feel like a lot of nations are very cavalier with nukes in a way that's... er, very uncomfortable to me? Like, having nukes is fine and good - most modern nations have them, why shouldn't yours? - but then you have some factbooks I've read where someone lists the circumstances in which they'll use nukes and one of them will just be some shit like, "If it helps advance a war goal quickly," which... that's certainly a way you can get your own nation bathed in nuclear hellfire, I'll give 'em that


Most people have little knowledge of atomic science, especially atomic weaponry. This is especially prevalent whenever people have a nuclear plant under construction near them. The ones on this website who are more...liberal in their nation's deployment of the weapons just think explosions cool and nuke make big boom.

They don't think about what would actually happen if, in a conventional peer-to-peer conflict, a developed country decided to deploy tactical nuclear weapons and presume a limited nuclear exchange.

Not to mention the disastrous environmental and geopolitical consequences of deploying nuclear weapons in a tactical capacity. Every nation in the modern age would immediately cut ties to you and whatever UN-equivalent your timeline has would absolutely go in on you, under the assumption your country is a threat to world peace and completely willing to use its nuclear armaments.


Going off of this, I think a lot of users forget that people generally don't like warmongering. A military dictatorship led by a 16 year old warlord that's constantly conquering their neighbors is going to be an international pariah, and treated like such.
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Red Lake Circle
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Fri May 20, 2022 10:31 pm

Ahkara wrote:
Frisemark wrote:
Most people have little knowledge of atomic science, especially atomic weaponry. This is especially prevalent whenever people have a nuclear plant under construction near them. The ones on this website who are more...liberal in their nation's deployment of the weapons just think explosions cool and nuke make big boom.

They don't think about what would actually happen if, in a conventional peer-to-peer conflict, a developed country decided to deploy tactical nuclear weapons and presume a limited nuclear exchange.

Not to mention the disastrous environmental and geopolitical consequences of deploying nuclear weapons in a tactical capacity. Every nation in the modern age would immediately cut ties to you and whatever UN-equivalent your timeline has would absolutely go in on you, under the assumption your country is a threat to world peace and completely willing to use its nuclear armaments.


Going off of this, I think a lot of users forget that people generally don't like warmongering. A military dictatorship led by a 16 year old warlord that's constantly conquering their neighbors is going to be an international pariah, and treated like such.

A lot of folks here seem very uninterested in the human cost of war, which... while it's kind of to be expected in this sort of context, I still find it pretty disappointing and/or worrying
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Meadowfields » Fri May 20, 2022 10:33 pm

Red Lake Circle wrote:
Ahkara wrote:
Going off of this, I think a lot of users forget that people generally don't like warmongering. A military dictatorship led by a 16 year old warlord that's constantly conquering their neighbors is going to be an international pariah, and treated like such.

A lot of folks here seem very uninterested in the human cost of war, which... while it's kind of to be expected in this sort of context, I still find it pretty disappointing and/or worrying

I do remember Laka Strolisander destroying the Fenwick Tower, holding millions of captured slaves...
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Red Lake Circle
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Fri May 20, 2022 10:37 pm

Meadowfields wrote:
Red Lake Circle wrote:A lot of folks here seem very uninterested in the human cost of war, which... while it's kind of to be expected in this sort of context, I still find it pretty disappointing and/or worrying

I do remember Laka Strolisander destroying the Fenwick Tower, holding millions of captured slaves...

Laka is an interesting case, because for her, the massive amount of death associated with her nation kind of seems to be a Warhammer 40k-style tone setter? I can't be too sure, though, since I've only really interacted with her on F7 threads.
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Postby Great United States » Fri May 20, 2022 10:56 pm

also,dont forget the 1K ''humanitarian international alliance''s which arent sighted in ANY war,and have a civil war in its first week
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Also,remember "the American dream"?where everyone was rich and free,that was a reality in this nations universe
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Postby Frisemark » Fri May 20, 2022 10:58 pm

Great United States wrote:also,dont forget the 1K ''humanitarian international alliance''s which arent sighted in ANY war,and have a civil war in its first week


On the topic of civil wars, I know it'd be an even bigger headache if they were accurate to real life, but it's always funny when some country in II has a civil war RP and it's like....completely clear cut who is who and also on occasion who is "the bad faction"

You wanna see what a civil war in the modern age looks like? Go have a gander at Syria and that whole mess. There isn't "Side A and Side B who are completely made up of a hive mind who has one purpose."
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Postby Karazicu » Fri May 20, 2022 11:03 pm

Frisemark wrote:
Great United States wrote:also,dont forget the 1K ''humanitarian international alliance''s which arent sighted in ANY war,and have a civil war in its first week


On the topic of civil wars, I know it'd be an even bigger headache if they were accurate to real life, but it's always funny when some country in II has a civil war RP and it's like....completely clear cut who is who and also on occasion who is "the bad faction"

You wanna see what a civil war in the modern age looks like? Go have a gander at Syria and that whole mess. There isn't "Side A and Side B who are completely made up of a hive mind who has one purpose."

Yeah, sometimes it feels like that people making such threads just feel like demonstrating (read: wanking) their very cool and epic political ideologies/nations. Like, "look how fukking awsome my policial ideology and nations is and how very bad an terrible my opponents are!!!!!!" sort of horseshit. Like, we get it mate, your nation is so very cool, and your beliefs are too. (really, your views are probably as nuanced as an average redditor's argument)
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Postby Red Lake Circle » Fri May 20, 2022 11:08 pm

Karazicu wrote:
Frisemark wrote:
On the topic of civil wars, I know it'd be an even bigger headache if they were accurate to real life, but it's always funny when some country in II has a civil war RP and it's like....completely clear cut who is who and also on occasion who is "the bad faction"

You wanna see what a civil war in the modern age looks like? Go have a gander at Syria and that whole mess. There isn't "Side A and Side B who are completely made up of a hive mind who has one purpose."

Yeah, sometimes it feels like that people making such threads just feel like demonstrating (read: wanking) their very cool and epic political ideologies/nations. Like, "look how fukking awsome my policial ideology and nations is and how very bad an terrible my opponents are!!!!!!" sort of horseshit.

It's why I've been trying to handle the Harjis Witoth very carefully. Like... I vehemently disagree with the ideology I created them with, and I'm having them do some bad shit, but I'm trying to make sure they're handled realistically,

Unlike a group from one of my old nations, which... man, a lot changes in a few years, doesn't it?
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