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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:53 am

Agreed.

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Postby North German Realm » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:03 am

What in the goddamn?


Serbs have no right to a nation-state.
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Postby Kyria » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:21 am

Disagreed.
Every race and ethnicity has a right to a state of their own.
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Postby Soleos » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:45 am

Disagree. This isn't the 19th century anymore and the inevitable result of modern technology and social shift is a more federalized albeit unified world (at least once people born before 1991 lose relevancy).

Atheists and Christians are the two belief groups in the West who are the most cringe. Muslims, Taoists, Hindus, Sikhs, etc are the reason why the West hasn't collapsed yet since they make up a large portion of doctors, programmers, engineers, etc. Without them, the USA and UK may very well be stuck in the Middle Income Trap. They also exercise unlike the lardaceous Atheists and Christians which saves a lot of money on healthcare expenditure which may explain why they can afford to perform academically well compared to their peers.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:20 am

Since absence of a belief isn't a belief, I'll have to disagree partially with that one.

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Postby Kyria » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:24 am

Disagreed.
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Postby North German Realm » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:25 am

Er no. Not really. It's shaky, but it's not "the definition" of bullshit.


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Postby Soleos » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:00 pm

Disagree.

Internationalism under a Federalised System is the inevitable future of humanity. Once Boomers/Xers die out and the environment is fixed, nationstates across the Earth will eventually reach a state of development to where communication and exchange of ideas become more powerful than nationalism the same way a Californian hardly see themselves any different than a Texan: Different state, different culture, but still under a unified albeit federal system of government. Resisting it just means you've become mentally stagnant and, like the Saigo Takamori and his men, will be gunned down by the stronger, more modern Meiji forces. Metaphorically speaking.
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Postby Strahcoin » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:15 pm

Soleos wrote:Internationalism under a Federalised System is the inevitable future of humanity. Once Boomers/Xers die out and the environment is fixed, nationstates across the Earth will eventually reach a state of development to where communication and exchange of ideas become more powerful than nationalism the same way a Californian hardly see themselves any different than a Texan: Different state, different culture, but still under a unified albeit federal system of government. Resisting it just means you've become mentally stagnant and, like the Saigo Takamori and his men, will be gunned down by the stronger, more modern Meiji forces. Metaphorically speaking.

Mostly disagreed. National sovereignty is good (meaning we're not necessarily "mentally stagnant"), and Brexit seems to be coming in the near future (so federal internationalism is not necessarily "the inevitable future of humanity"). Global exchange of information isn't necessarily bad, however.

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Postby Luxenermy » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:19 pm

I agree, but for different reasons. We shouldn't state fund something that many people feel so strongly against.

Luxembourg and Germany should unite to become one country IRL.
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Postby Kyria » Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:22 pm

Disagreed.
Germany and Austria should reinstate their monarchies.
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Postby Soleos » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:55 pm

Disagree.


The only reason countries even have monarchies today are either:
a) The country would be unstable without a unified leader (Thailand, and sadly, most of Africa and India need some unifying force)

b) Their entire culture hasn't evolved past the idea of a monarchy but somehow survived stagnation and thus can be left alone with paying higher taxes for the luxuries of some lazy welfare queens (UK, Japan, Sweden, Norway)

Beyond those two points, Federalised Republicanism under a Parliamentary Democratic system (assuming education is held as a high cultural priority) is the most optimal system of governance. It's why the most successful monarchies happen to be constitutional monarchies: It's an optimal government without optimal government expenditure (royal expenses).
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Postby North German Realm » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:32 pm

Disagree.


Establishing a German Monarchy under the boundaries of the Bundesrepublik is literally impossible. You'd need to revert to the pre-Weimar inner borders first.
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Postby Narland » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:00 pm

North German Realm wrote:Disagree.


Establishing a German Monarchy under the boundaries of the Bundesrepublik is literally impossible. You'd need to revert to the pre-Weimar inner borders first.

Mostly agree, by lawful means that is.

Constitutional limited monarchies with parliamentarian governance are inherently flawed (no pun intended).

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Postby Kowani » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:06 pm

Narland wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Disagree.


Establishing a German Monarchy under the boundaries of the Bundesrepublik is literally impossible. You'd need to revert to the pre-Weimar inner borders first.

Mostly agree, by lawful means that is.

Constitutional limited monarchies with parliamentarian governance are inherently flawed (no pun intended).

Agreed, because monarchy constitutes a flaw.


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Postby United Federation of Orion » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:29 am

Agree.

Joker (2019) is the best movie of the year.
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Postby Soleos » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:11 am

From the very limited movies I've seen, sure.

The Joker (2019) is not an incel movie.
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There's a big difference between a mentally ill man trying his best to have a good life despite his circumstances (American/Chinese style income inequality, a neglectful & abusive mother of extreme delusions, social workers who've checked out/unhelpful, huge budget cuts to mental health support, etc) and being a misogynistic, euphoric Caucasian/Hispanic neckbeard that masturbates to Bismarck and getting triggered over "Deus Vult" being replaced with "God Wills It" in a videogame. Plus, the Joker at least got a date and he has no choice in his circumstances, incels/neckbeards can stop listening to /pol/shit, stop eating carne asada fries & fucking lose those dorrito weight then their lives will improve greatly.
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Postby Luxenermy » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:33 am

I agree, though maybe not as violently as AN. Like, the equivalent of a nod and a thumbs up.

Luxembourg is great to visit this time of year.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:10 pm

I've never been to Europe, let alone Luxembourg so IDK. Judging by Wikipedia, the climate is too cold and rainy for my tastes this time of year. Sightseeing may be cool though.


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Postby Narland » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:08 pm

Agreed. There is a Chinese restaurant in my area that has a very large fish tank in the entryway full of mostly goldfish. When there is a new hostess I love pretending that I don't speak English (or Chinese) and point to a particular fish making gestures that it is the one I want cooked for dinner. :)

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Postby Satuga » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:21 am

Sort of agree, many of the books that you find at a library can now be found online, however not everyone has the luxury of having a smart phone or computer and thus a public school is their best friend. So overall yes but it's still useful in many ways.




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Postby Saint Lsawie Man » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:05 am

Agree
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Postby Kyria » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:09 am

Disagreed.
The best economic system is mixed.
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Postby North German Realm » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:12 am

Eh. Depends on what you mean by "mixed". A Welfare State is still firmly right-wing economically.


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Postby Las Palmeras » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:49 am

Well, it was qualitatively better than what the general populace of many neoliberal states have now. So I guess I agree.


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