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Alternamerica
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Founded: Apr 11, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Alternamerica » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:40 pm

New Transeurasia wrote:Agree.

The US should be even less centralized


Disagree.

The Soviet Union criminalized homosexuality under Stalin, this is why you shouldn't vote Democrat. Moreso because they wear pink pussy hats which is both transphobic and racist because not all women have pussies and not all pussies are pink. This is why Trump and Twink Pence are winning reelection. You need the Zoomer vote, and their generation has a lot of cute girls with sausages and hot men with tacos
What if America, but with Social Democracy & Eisenhower worship? We have the best infrastructure, military, and public welfare because we're the best country in the world. CIA love Teddy Roosevelt and the environment enough to torture Oil executives. $1 Trillion Military budget & Green New Deal. Just like Teddy Roosevelt wanted it. Protect the environment to own the libs!

Our MAGAts run over Neo-Confederates, support trans rights, and believe Workers' Democracy is American Democracy. We hate fascism more than communism because lefties can be pro-democracy. 30% IRL views, 70% joke

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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:04 pm

You know this thread is OOC right? Anyway, disagree. That's a whole lot of straw men and non sequiturs in such a short statement.


There is nothing wrong with political messaging in fiction - in fact, even when it's "on the nose," political messaging can be a good thing.
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Alternamerica
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Alternamerica » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:22 pm

Agree.

Vegetables are actually delicious. You just suck at cooking if you don't like it
What if America, but with Social Democracy & Eisenhower worship? We have the best infrastructure, military, and public welfare because we're the best country in the world. CIA love Teddy Roosevelt and the environment enough to torture Oil executives. $1 Trillion Military budget & Green New Deal. Just like Teddy Roosevelt wanted it. Protect the environment to own the libs!

Our MAGAts run over Neo-Confederates, support trans rights, and believe Workers' Democracy is American Democracy. We hate fascism more than communism because lefties can be pro-democracy. 30% IRL views, 70% joke

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The Great-German Empire
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Founded: Nov 25, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby The Great-German Empire » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:49 pm

Agree. Though you don't need much cooking to make them decent.



iPhone charging ports become loose way too easily.
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Das Kaiserliche Vaterland
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Founded: Jul 20, 2019
Corporate Police State

Postby Das Kaiserliche Vaterland » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:52 pm

As a user of an iPhone and Pad, yeah, I totally agree without question.




The 2020s will get better eventually.

Edit:

Yes. More Deutschland.
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“Imagine losing all of your overseas colonies after winning a Second World War.”

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North German Realm
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby North German Realm » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:10 am

Honestly they'd better. The very beginning of the decade has been more terrible than any year in my own life.


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The Islands of Versilia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:14 am

Agreed.
Crusader Kings III should include the ability to import saves onto either Europa Universalis IV or the next instalment in the Europa Universalis franchise.

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Revolutionary Indiana
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Founded: Apr 11, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Revolutionary Indiana » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:29 am

Of course Paradox would've included such thing in their game.


Split Democratic Party USA into two parties; one for Clinton-Obama and one for Sanders.
THE REVOLUTIONARY STATE OF INDIANA
A flawed democracy State founded out of the Great Revolution, from the former US State of Indiana.

GRAND OLD PARTY | TRUMP 2020 | CONSERVATIVE | CAPITALISM OVER SOCIALISM
PROS | Conservatism ✯ Free Market ✯ Small Government
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CONS | Far-Right ✯ Socialism | CONS


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Gylthas
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Founded: Nov 08, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Gylthas » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:42 am

We should do away with the bipartisan system altogether.




Wilsonianism needs to stop. Now.
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Embassy programme here.

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Imarssia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Imarssia » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:27 am

Yes. Fuck Wilson.
Thanks AltHistoryHub.




Contrary to what the memes may tell you, genetically engineered catgirls or turning people into said catgirls would be mostly viewed negatively if Elon Musk was actually able to make such a conversion possible.
A combined race of Vikings and American Natives who appear somewhat Asian, located in the N. Atlantic.
Tried the whole Lets Build an Imperial Empire thing, and then the communism thing, but now we're a chill island nation.
Sometimes referred to as the "Japan of the West" by the White Westerners.

I am not against (technological) progress, it's just that 8values considers tradition & progress to be mutually exclusive.

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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:30 am

Agree. We can meme all we want, but it isn't exactly ethical to genetically engineer traits for the purpose of "cuteness."


Mashups, quod-libets, remixes, and the like can be valid forms of art.
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Haudegen Reich
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Founded: Apr 11, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Haudegen Reich » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:01 am

Of course, why wouldn't they be?
Both World Wars were preventable in their own right. Peace on a global scale was possible.
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The Vanguards of Terror; a forgotten Wehrmacht unit turned Arctic Redoubt thirsts for a vengeance and the birthright of a homeland. Since 1945, their honour was loyalty.
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The Islands of Versilia
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Islands of Versilia » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:52 am

Disagreed.
It is unethical and unjust that 1% of the world population owns more or less the same wealth as the other 99%.

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Maydona
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Founded: Mar 23, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Maydona » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:54 am

Agreed

We're all doomed
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Offical Languages: Standard Kaylian, Simplified Vavalonian, Fledgien, High Cusle
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Revolutionary Indiana
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Ex-Nation

Postby Revolutionary Indiana » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:53 am

2020 is the end of the world anyways.

Canada-USA-Mexico is one large state.
THE REVOLUTIONARY STATE OF INDIANA
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GRAND OLD PARTY | TRUMP 2020 | CONSERVATIVE | CAPITALISM OVER SOCIALISM
PROS | Conservatism ✯ Free Market ✯ Small Government
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CONS | Far-Right ✯ Socialism | CONS


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The Great-German Empire
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Founded: Nov 25, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby The Great-German Empire » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:37 am

Disagree. They do form, to be sure, a very deeply integrated system, but between separate currencies, trade disputes, border policy and the legally and factually separate jurisdictions they simply do not fit any definition of a 'state'.



We're not doomed, and through this current adversity - as well as more of it in the future - we will once again rise to the stars.
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Pelferia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Pelferia » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:40 am

Agreed, this kind of adversity has been with us for all of human history. But sometime in the distant future it has to end eventually.

Stalin and Mao bastardized communism

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Revolutionary Indiana
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Postby Revolutionary Indiana » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:41 am

Very likely. In fact I think Trump just gave the go for NASA to mine the moon.

There will be more disasters 2020 have up the sleeves for us mankind.
THE REVOLUTIONARY STATE OF INDIANA
A flawed democracy State founded out of the Great Revolution, from the former US State of Indiana.

GRAND OLD PARTY | TRUMP 2020 | CONSERVATIVE | CAPITALISM OVER SOCIALISM
PROS | Conservatism ✯ Free Market ✯ Small Government
| PROS

CONS | Far-Right ✯ Socialism | CONS


Neither the signature or the nation reflects my actual political beliefs. I do however lean slightly to the right, politically-wise.

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Kathol Rift
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Posts: 420
Founded: Mar 12, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kathol Rift » Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:44 am

Agreed. The Devil isn’t done with this year yet.


Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War,” despite being written hundreds of years ago, is still one of the most reliable and accurate books about strategy and warfare.
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I’m a Christian. I don’t try to convert people or threaten hellfire and brimstone, I just try to be a good person and a Christian, and hope that’s good enough.

I do happen to be a straight white male, and my Dad is a policeman, so feel free to call me bigoted just because of how I was born. I’ll gladly ignore you and bask in the irony. That being said, I don’t want to argue about things like this.

I’m an aspiring author. I’m working on a book right now, actually. Feel free to ask me about it if you want your head filled with useless facts about its universe.


Racism is bad, everyone. But hating all cops is just as bad. Let’s try to accept everyone.

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Kazakah
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Founded: Jan 28, 2019
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Kazakah » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:01 am

Kathol Rift wrote:Agreed. The Devil isn’t done with this year yet.


Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War,” despite being written hundreds of years ago, is still one of the most reliable and accurate books about strategy and warfare.


Agreed, he was a genius.

Texas would've left the US years ago if they could have.
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Cantelo
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Cantelo » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:05 am

well, they already tried that once with a bunch of other states, so agreed

Vanilla is superior to chocolate
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Kazakah
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Founded: Jan 28, 2019
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Kazakah » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:08 am

Cantelo wrote:well, they already tried that once with a bunch of other states, so agreed

Vanilla is superior to chocolate


Agreed, I'm a sucker for French Vanilla in particular

Though it has many flaws, Capitalism has been largely beneficial to society as a whole
✸ THE IMPERIAL DOMINION OF KAZAKAH ✸
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Swindenland
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Founded: Aug 21, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Swindenland » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:09 am

Yes, it does taste better.

AN: Agree. Misfortunately non-market systems don't work well. Unsurprisingly countries that had a planned economy are less developed, both economically and culturally. But there's plenty of opportunity to improve capitalism.

If more people used Linux and if more software were native to Linux, the world would be a better place.
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The Cosmic Mainframe
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:13 am

Agreed. Open source is a better model for everything, really, and a larger community around it would be better. It would also be really nice if I could get more commercial software running on my Linux machines without having to use WINE.


Worker's unions are good for society.
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A z a n i a
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Founded: Aug 21, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby A z a n i a » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:22 am

Mostly agree, but when a country is over-unionised (like here in SA, where unions hold significant political power), it can lead to serious problems.


Welfare capitalism > Laissez-faire capitalism
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