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Foehn Paramilitary Regions
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Posts: 10
Founded: Jun 01, 2021
Corporate Police State

Postby Foehn Paramilitary Regions » Mon May 30, 2022 9:43 am

AAN:
Oh boy, it's Rapture. Guess I might as well do him.

For the record, I have NOT played any Bioshock games, and I'm only going off what little I know about the series in order to judge what's essentially a Bioshock fanfic. With that out of the way, I think it's only fair that I - having seen the user multiple times throughout the years I've been on NS, both on the original Rapture and on Alkdoria - give my totally not biased thoughts on TRR.

First, let's begin with noting the good: it's detailed on the cultural and governmental fronts, for one, something that you don't tend to see in most NS nations in general, which tend to prefer speaking about aspects of how oh-so-great their military is or how glorious they are. It's definitely a bit of a model for everyone else to look at, even if just on the structural level of things. As for why I say this? Well, let's just say that the good really ends here, because oh boy, there's a lot of things to trudge through.

So, point number one: TRR (or rather, John Mercer himself) feels a bit... Mary Sue-y, to say the least. I'm not going to recap the history of Rapture (an Ayn Rand-inspired entity, I should add) during Andrew Ryan's reign, but what I will say is that the post-Civil War lore (which is what I assume are the bits that are truly original) is... oh boy, would saying "completely screwing up what made Bioshock be Bioshock in the first place" be too excessive, or would it be fitting? Because, let me tell you this: how the fuck do you manage to go from an Ayn Rand-y republic to what's essentially a totalitarian dictatorship, without, say, Sofia Lamb (an important figure of post-Civil War Rapture in the original games) and her religion gaining any sort of prominence whatsoever? Oh, and let's not talk about something very blatant: the fact that "Atlas" (or Frank Fontaine, in the original lore, a figure that was a scumbag who wanted to enrich himself and his business) is replaced - with no sort of HINTS towards why - by TRR's OC, John Mercer.

Oh, and let's not get into the fact that Mercer, somehow, manages to do what nobody else does: getting rid of ADAM addiction. THAT'S RIGHT! He (somehow) gets rid of the main source of problems (at least in Bioshock lore) with the gene rewriting substance that is ADAM. Thus, do you know what he essentially made? A version of ADAM with no sort of problems? Does anybody see the problem here? It's essentially making the very thing that led to the Civil War in the first place an OP tool that essentially loses whatever source of conflicts (something every author ever will need to create a compelling story) could've arisen from using such a tool.

But it's not like that matters anyways, because the main sin, from my perspective, it's that TRR stops being consistent with the original lore's focus on biotechnology in order to go directly to magic (just look at Mercer's factbook, please... if you can bother going through the plethora of big grammatical and spelling mistakes) with no sort of explanation as to why in the first place. You know, something that just doesn't fit in with Bioshock lore at all? You'd think that a fanfic would at least bother to be consistent with the source material's focus. It'd be like suddenly giving magic to the Terrans of Starcraft, or giving MBTs as we know them to, say, Tolkien's hobbits. I'm pretty sure the fans of those two examples would, at the very least, be scratching their heads a lot as to why the fanfic author decided to do that.

I could also go on a bit of a tangent about how weird the choices for TRR's portraits of his OCs are (especially Ariel's, seriously), but at this point, I think the post has already said what I had to say. In conclusion, go back to the drawing board, and rewrite a lot of TRR, because oh boy, it's a bit of a stinker as it is right now, and it feels like a slap to the face to those who have some interest in Bioshock.


AN:

With all due respect, it's just poorly-written, both in the lore side of things and in the linguistic side of things. Seriously. It's one thing to write long paragraphs, it's another to write actual, single-sentence, walls of texts with no spaces between commas nor any sort of line-breaking that would, I don't know, make GUS actually readable. Not like it's worth reading in its current state anyway, it really just feels like your average and generic yankwank with no sort of compelling things to hook anybody on. I'm not saying it's impossible to write a compelling alt-hist US, but this one, chief? Ain't it, and likely will not be for a long time, unless the user really decides to work further on their lore and, perhaps more importantly for the sake of readability, studying the English language further.
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Mets Hayk
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Founded: May 14, 2022
Corporate Police State

Postby Mets Hayk » Mon May 30, 2022 9:56 am

Ah, it's Foehn! I was wondering when I'd get to talk about you. You have, without a doubt, built one of the most intriguing worlds I've seen here. All while having a rather interesting, but unique nonetheless, format. I enjoyed reading through most of the factbooks available, especially the one on Anatoly. It's not common to have character-building like this nowadays; especially with the influx of similar nations. I just have one question for you: Did anything inspire your nation? Or did you just come up with all the concepts?
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Holy Armenian Empire
"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
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Southern Republic of Dixie
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Posts: 515
Founded: Nov 03, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Mon May 30, 2022 10:03 am

Armenia is a very nice nation, with sadness of several genocides and Russia interferance and the such.
Their factbooks were very nice aswell

(I would delete but can't...)
(Sorry i have only been trying to make factbooks recently)
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Karazicu
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Posts: 197
Founded: Feb 08, 2022
Father Knows Best State

Postby Karazicu » Mon May 30, 2022 10:14 am

Mate, as interesting as the concept of your nation is... your factbooks are just fuck all. There is barely anything inside them, like you've effectively written nothing at all. Look, we're not expecting full-on Wikipedia articles to read, but this is just egregious. Honestly, we'd all appreciate it if you actually put some stuff or even some actual effort in your factbooks.
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23.03.2003
INDEPENDENT STATE OF KARAZICU - ANEKARTITO DRSAVA KARAZIA
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 ΚΝΡ:  Kalimera, Karazija. This is Karazi National Radio. News: A computer bug of sorts has been causing odd readings to display for some measurements like time and temperature across Karazi government computers. Weather: temperatures high/low will be 99°C... uh... Lottery #s: 2, 18, 16, 52, 34. That's all. Have nice day.
Summary: When anarchy struck a Mediterranean island nation, the military & police took power with a junta, forming a new order to prevent it by any and all means.
Qot?: we like the color #1453ad
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Mets Hayk
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Posts: 2390
Founded: May 14, 2022
Corporate Police State

Postby Mets Hayk » Mon May 30, 2022 10:21 am

I hit the jackpot today, didn't I? Well, Karazicu, what I said about Foehn mostly applies to you as well. I suppose that could apply to ANY well-developed nation but, as I said, it's not very common to see nations with a lot of effort put into them nowadays. You, however, are one of those outliers. Somebody who legitimately takes time to put in as much effort as they can; and for that, I have infinite more respect for you than most on this website. Oh, and the whole changing flag thing you have is pretty cool too.
Holy Armenian Empire
"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
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Mets Hayk
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Founded: May 14, 2022
Corporate Police State

Postby Mets Hayk » Mon May 30, 2022 12:23 pm

/bump
Holy Armenian Empire
"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
Armenia News|Holy Armenian Empire proclaimed|Anatolia Purchase successful|Armenia annexes Azerbaijan and Georgia|Armenia forms the Pan-Christian Cooperative League

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New Zoigai
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Posts: 978
Founded: Feb 17, 2021
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New Zoigai » Mon May 30, 2022 12:54 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:/bump

You gave your two cents May as well give mine,


You have like 6 factbooks and everything within those six, None of its condensed so reading it becomes a genuine bore. Your nation is pretty much modern Armenia with a couple aspects changed, You say my nation is low effort PMT (Which isnt true, Its a Mid effort FT) and I say yours is a generic Armenian state. You mixed armenia and The Kingdom of Armenia togther and got the Mets Hayk, You have a massive amount of information about random people so I only skimmed through the top. Usually nations with that much lore and Info would have a table of contents. Its just an alternate history Armenia.

You dare say my nation is generic whislit doing what basically every Armenian themed nation does.
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Factbooks still under construction, cut me some slack when reading them


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Karazicu
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Posts: 197
Founded: Feb 08, 2022
Father Knows Best State

Postby Karazicu » Mon May 30, 2022 1:02 pm

Alright, let's cut to the chase here, because oh boy do I have some things to say to you.

First off, we have your lore to talk about, which is just... no. You have written barely anything in your factbooks. It's clear that little effort went into making your nation, and it is considerably reinforced by factbooks like these in which you copied and pasted your responses in F&NI threads. What little is there is lacking in any kind of distinctiveness, and there is barely anything unique about your nation. To be fair, you do say that you are working on your factbooks, so that could be rather subject to change, but... eh, what's there quite frankly isn't that interesting since there's lots of generic stuff in it.

Then, there is also you and how you are OOC. You seem to be terrible at taking criticism, complaining about people demanding that you make entire articles like ones on Wikipedia, or that you make whole entire essays in F7 responses. There is this line in this factbook which really reinforces your inability to take criticism well:
Your factbooks are quite straightforward, makes it easy to learn stuff about your nation I guess.-Karazicu (Mad That I didnt give him a Wikipedia article to look at)

Like, really mate? Let me tell you this; we're not expecting that you write entire scholarly reports on this site, about your nation or about your thoughts on other nations, we just want some actual content in your factbooks and in your responses, something that's lacking in both. As our old mate Foehn puts it:
Foehn Paramilitary Regions wrote:you'd be surprised to find out that, no, we don't want essays. we just want a goddamn reason for why you think that, or a post that goes beyond "I don't know him".

Adding on to that, we also expect that you demonstrate that you actually read somebody's stuff. You don't really do much of these things. For example, in your response to Mets Hayk you outright said that you literally just skimmed through their factbooks because it was too long, and clearly failed to actually give any actual feedback. It's clear that you don't really put any effort into giving at least decebt responses to people. Honestly, I'd be fine with getting a one-liner response so as long as it shows that you actually read through my factbooks. Hintuwan can regularly give out one-line responses that are actually quite good since it demonstrates that he actually reads factbooks.

Overall, this nation is a thoroughly underdeveloped, generic nation with a person behind it who cannot take criticism well. Really, at least try, it can't be that hard.
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ESAK
23.03.2003
INDEPENDENT STATE OF KARAZICU - ANEKARTITO DRSAVA KARAZIA
ΕΣΑΚ
25:00:00
ΕΝΩΣΙ ΣΤΡΑΤΙΩΤΙΚΙΣ ΑΣΤΥΝΟΜΙΑΣ ΚΑΡΑΖΙΑ
 ΚΝΡ:  Kalimera, Karazija. This is Karazi National Radio. News: A computer bug of sorts has been causing odd readings to display for some measurements like time and temperature across Karazi government computers. Weather: temperatures high/low will be 99°C... uh... Lottery #s: 2, 18, 16, 52, 34. That's all. Have nice day.
Summary: When anarchy struck a Mediterranean island nation, the military & police took power with a junta, forming a new order to prevent it by any and all means.
Qot?: we like the color #1453ad
My Name: funny serbian war criminal xdd
Flag: downtown athens be like + maya en mymy
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Mets Hayk
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Founded: May 14, 2022
Corporate Police State

Postby Mets Hayk » Mon May 30, 2022 1:11 pm

New Zoigai wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:/bump

You gave your two cents May as well give mine,


You have like 6 factbooks and everything within those six, None of its condensed so reading it becomes a genuine bore. Your nation is pretty much modern Armenia with a couple aspects changed, You say my nation is low effort PMT (Which isnt true, Its a Mid effort FT) and I say yours is a generic Armenian state. You mixed armenia and The Kingdom of Armenia togther and got the Mets Hayk, You have a massive amount of information about random people so I only skimmed through the top. Usually nations with that much lore and Info would have a table of contents. Its just an alternate history Armenia.

You dare say my nation is generic whislit doing what basically every Armenian themed nation does.


From the jackpot to going bankrupt, I suppose.

Also, have you taken like...two minutes to read anything I've written? I guess not, seeing as how you've gotten the number of factbooks wrong, AND you said you only "skimmed" through them. Really? You couldn't have given a legitimate review and pointed out any sort of, I don't know, actual flaws?

This just screams "you don't like my nation; so I'll give a half-assed opinion on yours".

/skipme
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Holy Armenian Empire
"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
Armenia News|Holy Armenian Empire proclaimed|Anatolia Purchase successful|Armenia annexes Azerbaijan and Georgia|Armenia forms the Pan-Christian Cooperative League

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Broader Confederate States
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Founded: Nov 11, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Broader Confederate States » Mon May 30, 2022 1:31 pm

Karazicu feels pretty realistic both now and in its past (always a good sign when you go into pre-history, and pre-history Slavs are even rarer to see; makes it a nice change of pace), and I very much appreciate that, for as much military focus it has, it still takes the time to have any information at all about day to day life, even has a tourist information page. Coming up with cultural elements like etiquette and cuisine is always appreciated, and it even has emergency numbers. Very nice. Something that's less to my tastes is the terminal login thing, I see it a lot, and as a regular user of both Unix and Linux, it feels kinda... meh to me. Not cool and not especially accurate to either.
Also, I'm very fond of the Inexplicably Powerful Weapons.
Could use more lore, though. As it stands, it feels a little... information light. To be fair, even real countries in the past can have sparse Wikipedia articles, but since Karazicu is modern, I'd hope for a handful more factbook pages.
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Mets Hayk
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Founded: May 14, 2022
Corporate Police State

Postby Mets Hayk » Mon May 30, 2022 1:42 pm

What's this? An actually decent nation based in North America? I must be hallucinating! Right?

Seriously though, this is the second nation in a row where everything I said about Foehn applies to them. It's got a nice bit of good worldbuilding, all while managing to be a nation set in the 2060s that doesn't make it impossible to suspend disbelief! Although this, and this could use a bit more work. Overall, another pretty good nation that I don't have many bad things to say about it. Oh, and if that rewrite's still happening, I'm sure it'll get even better.
Holy Armenian Empire
"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
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Reich of the New World Order
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Founded: Mar 08, 2016
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Reich of the New World Order » Mon May 30, 2022 2:00 pm

This is probably the first Armenia nation on NS, which is a nice change from all the Americas. You are probably a puppet of someone as i think everyone who first joins NS makes a bad nation or at least bad factbooks. I am not an exception to that rule .Your writing skills are good, better than mine that's for sure. The factbooks are very well formatted and written, i hope you write more factbooks. Not much more to say about your nation just keep on developing it more and accept me into the IHC.
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Mets Hayk
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Founded: May 14, 2022
Corporate Police State

Postby Mets Hayk » Mon May 30, 2022 2:35 pm

Reich of the New World Order wrote:This is probably the first Armenia nation on NS, which is a nice change from all the Americas. You are probably a puppet of someone as i think everyone who first joins NS makes a bad nation or at least bad factbooks. I am not an exception to that rule .Your writing skills are good, better than mine that's for sure. The factbooks are very well formatted and written, i hope you write more factbooks. Not much more to say about your nation just keep on developing it more and accept me into the IHC.


Well, I've had a few other nations in the past. They all CTE'd a while ago, though. :(
/skipme
Holy Armenian Empire
"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
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Mets Hayk
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Founded: May 14, 2022
Corporate Police State

Postby Mets Hayk » Mon May 30, 2022 4:02 pm

/bump
/skip
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Holy Armenian Empire
"Armenia will rise evermore"
A greater fatherland.
An Armenian's dream.
A Turk's nightmare.
Armenia News|Holy Armenian Empire proclaimed|Anatolia Purchase successful|Armenia annexes Azerbaijan and Georgia|Armenia forms the Pan-Christian Cooperative League

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Karazicu
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Posts: 197
Founded: Feb 08, 2022
Father Knows Best State

Postby Karazicu » Mon May 30, 2022 4:55 pm

Mets Hayk: We appreciate you wanting to keep this thread up and running, but there's no need to bump up threads that haven't had a post for only a few hours. Perhaps you can wait until there's been no post for maybe the double-digit hours, or when this thread ends up on the 9th or 10th page. Excessive bumping can result in it coming off as bumpspam, and perhaps earn you some redtext or even this thread being locked. Anyways, you aren't my intended AN, so I'll get to RotNWO now.

RotNWO: This is an interesting concept that you've got here, and I don't find it to be bad at all. Overview factbook is a little light on information, but it has the necessary bits to keep it running and it's rather interesting as well, so I will overlook it a little, maybe you can consider writing some more stuff in there. The people you're written about have potential to be interesting, and I do hope you'll get around to completing them as well. Your military factbooks are coming around quite nicely, even if their descriptions are rather short, still quite nice to look at. Your overall lore gives me the vibes as the Combine of Half-Life 2, maybe the alien mates from C&C, can't quite remember what they were. Overall, this is a nation that's a little incomplete and WIP, but it is coming around nicely, and it has a lot of potential to be realized.
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23.03.2003
INDEPENDENT STATE OF KARAZICU - ANEKARTITO DRSAVA KARAZIA
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25:00:00
ΕΝΩΣΙ ΣΤΡΑΤΙΩΤΙΚΙΣ ΑΣΤΥΝΟΜΙΑΣ ΚΑΡΑΖΙΑ
 ΚΝΡ:  Kalimera, Karazija. This is Karazi National Radio. News: A computer bug of sorts has been causing odd readings to display for some measurements like time and temperature across Karazi government computers. Weather: temperatures high/low will be 99°C... uh... Lottery #s: 2, 18, 16, 52, 34. That's all. Have nice day.
Summary: When anarchy struck a Mediterranean island nation, the military & police took power with a junta, forming a new order to prevent it by any and all means.
Qot?: we like the color #1453ad
My Name: funny serbian war criminal xdd
Flag: downtown athens be like + maya en mymy
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New Zoigai
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Posts: 978
Founded: Feb 17, 2021
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New Zoigai » Mon May 30, 2022 8:19 pm

Karazicu wrote:-Snip-

Your right, I dislike when people say-

I dislike your nation because it doesnt have a large amount of lore to read through. Ive seen some of this before, your nation isnt unique like I think mine is. Very underdeveloped nation even though the factbooks clearly havent been finished.

Karazicu: we have your lore to talk about, which is just... no. You have written barely anything in your factbooks. It's clear that little effort went into making your nation


You really need to explain how not being finished correlates to "Little effort" its eating at my mind. What you see right now are building blocks of an Tower that hasnt been finished yet, and you dont even comment on it, ITS LITERALLY 50 SECONDS!

You want me to place my information into cute little boxes and write a history article about non essiental topics in my development plan. You want something that isnt a quick summary of a nation that spans 4 different dimensions with atleast 60 planets in 40 different systems (Not counting the ones that just have colonies on them) and because thats not what Ive had the time to do with my nation is bad and low effort?



Hell all youve given your thoughts on Is My OOC interaction with you and your Pals, Not even the freaking nation.You cant even stay on topic yet you want me to take your half-assed non-constructive critisim and run with it?

Its not even a funny joke now that I think about it, more of a pathetic one.


In hopes of someone slightly different than you Im gonna give my two cents on your nation.


The coloring on the flag is nice, The factbooks have a cool government website theme. Your factbooks are a short read (Thankfully), and Junta themed nations are usually cool, Not for the couping of their leader per say, but for how they attempt to run their country after lodging away power from the people. Not much to dislike about your nation, mabye that I couldnt find a map. Well developed nation I will say but not what I want New Zoigai to be modeled off of. Especially since there are superior examples to follow.




Mets Hayk wrote:-Snip for the second time


No I looked for 12 minutes Reading each of your factbooks twice, Your nation is an alt history nation in the mask of Armenia Everything about it other people do the exact same things that you have done with different nations. The difference is that those nations are more interestering. I am willing to sit and read through their lore much more than Im willing to sit and read through yours Their users dont randomly come out of nowhere and say "Your nation is generic shit ive seen from somewhere else" either.





They Highlight key figures, giving them their own factbooks (Something Im in the process of doing) and not cramming them all into one, whislit you cram everything into 1 factbook expecting people to read it all. (Im sure there are people willing to but Im not one of them, There was nothing to hook my attention on.) They give demographics, City populations, Ethnic numbers, something.






The customization of your SIG and factbooks match Armenia well. You had like 1 character I was genuinely intrested in but with a single paragraph, and a cool looking Military seal. Thats literally it, nothing else, No customs that may have veered off ( Just like me), No intrestering Weapons you use, Hell I cant even find a geographic map of your nation. Which leads me too assume it has modern Armenian borders and just a much more ultra-Nationalist population.

Still wanna throw more stones from that glass house of yours?
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African American, right leaning centralist, Born near the Pacific Ocean, Prosteant Christian, History Lover, 6'2,

The guy who "cant take feedback" :)
Factbooks still under construction, cut me some slack when reading them


A Class 0.1 Civilization according to this index.
Political Math Graph results
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpo ... &soc=-0.72




NS stats are Working in the deepest coal mines we have discovered and arent canon

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Norther Macedonia
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Founded: Feb 21, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Norther Macedonia » Mon May 30, 2022 8:54 pm

Alright, writes forums like a college essay
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New Zoigai
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Founded: Feb 17, 2021
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New Zoigai » Mon May 30, 2022 8:56 pm

Norther Macedonia wrote:Alright, writes forums like a college essay

AN not AU dammit, is there anything about my nation you like?

(Just say u like the flag pwease)

/skip
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African American, right leaning centralist, Born near the Pacific Ocean, Prosteant Christian, History Lover, 6'2,

The guy who "cant take feedback" :)
Factbooks still under construction, cut me some slack when reading them


A Class 0.1 Civilization according to this index.
Political Math Graph results
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpo ... &soc=-0.72




NS stats are Working in the deepest coal mines we have discovered and arent canon

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Romanic Imperium
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Founded: Dec 14, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Romanic Imperium » Mon May 30, 2022 8:59 pm

Norther Macedonia wrote:Alright, writes forums like a college essay


Very new. Also really needs to put effort into their nation and posts. Most likely an alt.

New Zoigai wrote:
Karazicu wrote:-Snip-

Your right, I dislike when people say-

I dislike your nation because it doesnt have a large amount of lore to read through. Ive seen some of this before, your nation isnt unique like I think mine is. Very underdeveloped nation even though the factbooks clearly havent been finished.

Karazicu: we have your lore to talk about, which is just... no. You have written barely anything in your factbooks. It's clear that little effort went into making your nation


You really need to explain how not being finished correlates to "Little effort" its eating at my mind. What you see right now are building blocks of an Tower that hasnt been finished yet, and you dont even comment on it, ITS LITERALLY 50 SECONDS!

You want me to place my information into cute little boxes and write a history article about non essiental topics in my development plan. You want something that isnt a quick summary of a nation that spans 4 different dimensions with atleast 60 planets in 40 different systems (Not counting the ones that just have colonies on them) and because thats not what Ive had the time to do with my nation is bad and low effort?



Hell all youve given your thoughts on Is My OOC interaction with you and your Pals, Not even the freaking nation.You cant even stay on topic yet you want me to take your half-assed non-constructive critisim and run with it?

Its not even a funny joke now that I think about it, more of a pathetic one.


In hopes of someone slightly different than you Im gonna give my two cents on your nation.


The coloring on the flag is nice, The factbooks have a cool government website theme. Your factbooks are a short read (Thankfully), and Junta themed nations are usually cool, Not for the couping of their leader per say, but for how they attempt to run their country after lodging away power from the people. Not much to dislike about your nation, mabye that I couldnt find a map. Well developed nation I will say but not what I want New Zoigai to be modeled off of. Especially since there are superior examples to follow.




Mets Hayk wrote:-Snip for the second time


No I looked for 12 minutes Reading each of your factbooks twice, Your nation is an alt history nation in the mask of Armenia Everything about it other people do the exact same things that you have done with different nations. The difference is that those nations are more interestering. I am willing to sit and read through their lore much more than Im willing to sit and read through yours Their users dont randomly come out of nowhere and say "Your nation is generic shit ive seen from somewhere else" either.





They Highlight key figures, giving them their own factbooks (Something Im in the process of doing) and not cramming them all into one, whislit you cram everything into 1 factbook expecting people to read it all. (Im sure there are people willing to but Im not one of them, There was nothing to hook my attention on.) They give demographics, City populations, Ethnic numbers, something.






The customization of your SIG and factbooks match Armenia well. You had like 1 character I was genuinely intrested in but with a single paragraph, and a cool looking Military seal. Thats literally it, nothing else, No customs that may have veered off ( Just like me), No intrestering Weapons you use, Hell I cant even find a geographic map of your nation. Which leads me too assume it has modern Armenian borders and just a much more ultra-Nationalist population.

Still wanna throw more stones from that glass house of yours?


I do like that you note that your still working on your lore. I know many people who just give up on lore, where as your improving it. I also like how you listen to people's suggestions like how UIJ and I suggested fleshing out your space force more. Though I so wish your history was a little more detailed. Also last but not least very cool custom flag
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Ex-Nation

Postby Romanic Imperium » Mon May 30, 2022 9:00 pm

New Zoigai wrote:
Norther Macedonia wrote:Alright, writes forums like a college essay

AN not AU dammit, is there anything about my nation you like?

(Just say u like the flag pwease)

/skip

Don't worry I got you
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Great United States
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 448
Founded: Nov 28, 2021
Democratic Socialists

Postby Great United States » Mon May 30, 2022 9:21 pm

this nation isnt just ''rome survives'',the idea of a nation being reborn by demigods is certainly interesting,although it may get a bit basic at some parts,the nation is def awesome


Side note:there is a very visible ''WIP'' in the titles of some of my factbooks
CYBERPUNK AMERICA

Current year:2044 AD
Host of ASDAF airshow
The US but more European influenced and extra fancy
IC name:Continental Free United States
embassy here
Corporate Office jobs?Advanced Biotech?the CFUS has it all!
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Japan-esque America
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The H Corporation
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Founded: Apr 21, 2020
Anarchy

Postby The H Corporation » Mon May 30, 2022 9:29 pm

I never get tired of reading through a lot of alt-US nations, this one is kinda curious for me. It is great but they still have a lot to write, no clue it's a WIP, they tried to very a little bit more specific through their history and changed small details that overall got their nation there. I was actually very curious about the Nordic wars that obligated the British to raise taxes.

Also you need to add spaces after the commas
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Vadterland » Mon May 30, 2022 9:31 pm

Great United States:
I'm going to be honest, in my time back on the forums after the long hiatus I took over 2020 I have seen a lot of America-expies come and go. Not all of them were original, or good, or tolerable, or much more than a political wank in one vague direction that just made me groan at the current state of the American cultural landscape. This seems like it at least wants to try and be different, but a lack of polish/grammar, lack of setting, and absolute barrage of pretitles and acronyms just really sours it on me.

The user hasn't had a chance to get on my nerves one way or another so I don't want to be a cynical hardass, but it kind of just feels like yet another alternate America written by a teenager. I also really don't like the flag, but that's just icing on the cardboard cake.

H Corporation:
I feel like this nation is more an exercise in creative writing as opposed to an attempt at corporation/nationbuilding, moreso than most of F7's effortposters, but I find myself appreciating the concept. Instead of just writing everything out in a wiki-style factbook like most people including me relegate themselves to, they elaborate their alternate history through a series of articles documenting the course of events that led to the present time, throughout the Second World War and the Cold War. It's unconventional and it's a bit much to go through at points in terms of story, but hey it's nice if one is looking for something beyond another alternate history wank.
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Valentine Z » Mon May 30, 2022 10:56 pm

He-hey, great to see you again, my friend! Always a pleasure! Hope you've been well! Now, my thoughts on yourself and your nation. Your nation concepts and the worlds are quite a read and a sight to behold. I know how everyone talks about the oversaturation of United States / German / Russian nations on NS on a very regular basis but damn it, I love yours, and making concepts based on these nations doesn't mean a death spell in terms of originality.

What am I saying? I love your stuff, it's unique, is what I'm saying. <3 I love the extremely detailed history that does not simply go 20 minutes into the past and instead went full well beyond past events - decades and centuries. I love the tropes (and me being a TVTropes fan, that's a bonus) that are presented. And the most importantly - you have also made and built other NPC nations that you are allying/fighting, and it makes your world all the more lively. It feels like a full-fledged RTS that you can make it into (I unfortunately don't play HOI4 or CK or EU; my RTS alignments are more the likes of Rise of Nations, Age of Empires, Warcraft...)

So, anyway, there's that. Again, always a pleasure to see you around, and I'm glad you're still going strong. Keep it up, yeh.
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Hathian Prime » Mon May 30, 2022 11:19 pm

Valentine Z wrote:SNIP!


Hey dude, long time no see! Excuse my absence, but anyways, you always have great posts in forums that give an adequate response without being far too much. That’s just something I personally like about how you operate.
But to be on topic, I feel like your nation is very fleshed out when compared to most others, especially with the sheer amount of lore that you have! Your factbooks are filled with explanations and stories of your lore, which is always an interesting read. The names get a bit long, but the characters are still very interesting to read about and delve into their backstories.
To be honest, my only criticism towards you is that sometimes the factbooks are very, very long winded, but this can be somewhat excused because of the amount of things you have to say in them. Good luck with future endeavors dude!
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