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Hamatu
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Posts: 7
Founded: Oct 02, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby Hamatu » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:10 am

Posadist-Communalists wrote:The flag would be a super cool doormat

Now, I'm not sure made that awesome polandball, so instead I'll just compliment the way you've brought attention to such obscure and interesting ideologies as communalism and posadism, which (while they seem to have become something of a meme at least on NS recently) are so rarely mentioned I'd never heard of either prior to you. I'll also say that you seem like a pretty generally funny person, which is always nice to see on such a sometimes overly serious (I'll admit some personal guilt on this point :p ) website as NS.

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Kiu Ghesik
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Posts: 8939
Founded: Aug 25, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kiu Ghesik » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:36 am

Hamatu wrote:
Posadist-Communalists wrote:The flag would be a super cool doormat

Now, I'm not sure made that awesome polandball

*blushing sounds*

-snippified-

a more ooc comment but hamatu is honestly one of the kindest people i've ever met on here and i can respect that, honestly. i mean, you never seem to get really irritated at anything, you've always got kind words for people, you're a great effortposter, you're in my opinion a great friend, and just in general you're a top-notch poster. i've been letting myself get a bit too invested in stuff here lately, so it's always good to see you around just as a little reminder of what an actually good f7 poster looks like.
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✵ A newly-birthed confederation of insular nomadic clansmen struggling to remain a local great power in the face of their expanding foes. May or may not be united by worship of an eldritch mother-goddess. Now with extra align=center!

✵ Our Foreign Policy: Надад мөнгөө өг | Cities Razed Times Our Policy Has Been Disrespected: 50

✵ After a bout of complete creative bankruptcy I have three new nation ideas, no time to implement all of them, and not enough self-control to not try anyways. C'est la vie.
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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Posts: 4439
Founded: Apr 21, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 am

You are a Renaissance man/woman/user of NS--you can write well, both in RP and in lore, your flags are Chad, your concepts are unique, you're good at formatting, you're an F7 juggernaut, and you can draw quite well. Your NS countryballs are fantiastic! And you always put in lots of effort into your posts. You also championed what I think can be safely labeled as a specific Internet dialect on the NS OOC from the shindig (I'll write the closer, I will!!) and the current one. That's quite impressive, old sport.

You've also read Macbeth, which is a pretty good play.
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Connotar
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Posts: 13
Founded: Nov 29, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Connotar » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:42 am

Gigaverse wrote:the prequel

here you, like, compliment the account or the player for something notable - anything at all you can think of

i'll start:

i'd like to congratulate myself for creating the sequel's OP

dope flag

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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Founded: Apr 21, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:44 am

Connotar wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:the prequel

here you, like, compliment the account or the player for something notable - anything at all you can think of

i'll start:

i'd like to congratulate myself for creating the sequel's OP

dope flag

Oop, you're supposed to compliment the nation who posted last. But I do agree with you that Gigaverse has a dope flag.
/Stillme
The Constitutional Monarchy of Western Fardelshufflestein
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Tiny, Shakespeare-obsessed island nation northeast of NZ settled by HRE emigrants who thought they'd landed in the West Indies. F7 Stuff Somewhat Not Canon; RP is in real time; Ignore Stats; Still Not Kenneth Branagh.
The Western Fardelshufflestein Sentinel | 1 May 2021 | King "Adjusting Well" to Rehab| WF Man Arrested for Trying to Streak on Parliament Floor

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Hamatu
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Posts: 7
Founded: Oct 02, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby Hamatu » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:17 am

Kiu Ghesik wrote:*blushing sounds*

Oh woah, did you make it?! If so, cool. 8)
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:/Stillme

So, I don't think I'd normally do another one so close to my last one, especially after such a great rely as kg's just was, but I really do want to do one for you in particular, and it might be a while before I get another chance, so I'll just take it now.
Okay, so I actually really like the way you do AN posts- I know, at one point I did say I didn't appreciate it, but upon further thought, it actually makes a lot of sense to repeat prompts, as it gives other nations a chance to respond to them, and given that there's no guarantee that you'll even get a good response, actually creating a new one each time not only diminishes the potential quality of the prompts, but also can lead to a lot of wasted effort, which can obviously be very frustrating. So, overall, that's a really smart and clever idea. Other than that, I also want to mention how cool it is that you're giving other characters besides Alastair a chance to shine, especially Marie and Wilhelm, who I've come to really like getting replies from in addition to Alastair- really, you're just really great at character writing, and the fact that you can do it so well with so many additional characters is really cool.

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Posadist-Communalists
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Posts: 127
Founded: Jan 07, 2021
Democratic Socialists

Postby Posadist-Communalists » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:40 am

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Hamatu wrote:Now, I'm not sure made that awesome polandball

*blushing sounds*

I did credit you in my sig.

/skip
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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Founded: Apr 21, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:42 am

Hamatu wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:*blushing sounds*

Oh woah, did you make it?! If so, cool. 8)
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:/Stillme

So, I don't think I'd normally do another one so close to my last one, especially after such a great rely as kg's just was, but I really do want to do one for you in particular, and it might be a while before I get another chance, so I'll just take it now.
Okay, so I actually really like the way you do AN posts- I know, at one point I did say I didn't appreciate it, but upon further thought, it actually makes a lot of sense to repeat prompts, as it gives other nations a chance to respond to them, and given that there's no guarantee that you'll even get a good response, actually creating a new one each time not only diminishes the potential quality of the prompts, but also can lead to a lot of wasted effort, which can obviously be very frustrating. So, overall, that's a really smart and clever idea. Other than that, I also want to mention how cool it is that you're giving other characters besides Alastair a chance to shine, especially Marie and Wilhelm, who I've come to really like getting replies from in addition to Alastair- really, you're just really great at character writing, and the fact that you can do it so well with so many additional characters is really cool.

Thank you very much :D
/Skip me
The Constitutional Monarchy of Western Fardelshufflestein
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Tiny, Shakespeare-obsessed island nation northeast of NZ settled by HRE emigrants who thought they'd landed in the West Indies. F7 Stuff Somewhat Not Canon; RP is in real time; Ignore Stats; Still Not Kenneth Branagh.
The Western Fardelshufflestein Sentinel | 1 May 2021 | King "Adjusting Well" to Rehab| WF Man Arrested for Trying to Streak on Parliament Floor

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Rivogna
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Posts: 2
Founded: Jul 30, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Rivogna » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:57 pm

[For Hamatu]: I absolutely love your flag and your lore (as well as, of course, your memes)! I admire your creativity. Excellent work!
Rivogna, the Land of RevivalSame Person as Ravennog

Rivogna was an Italian colony in Central America. It peacefully gained independence in the nineteenth century thanks to the United States, which did everything in its power to keep Europeans out of the Americas. Currently, Rivogna is a social-democratic country that closely aligns with the West.

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Drew Durrnil
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Posts: 1190
Founded: Apr 30, 2020
Anarchy

Postby Drew Durrnil » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Nice flag! I guess...
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PASo-NCeF
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Posts: 0
Founded: Feb 19, 2021
Conservative Democracy

Postby PASo-NCeF » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

awesome, genuine sounding compliment! also, nice flag! i guess...
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Surrealist Patagonia
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Posts: 100
Founded: Oct 07, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Surrealist Patagonia » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:34 pm

Rivogna wrote:[For Hamatu]: I absolutely love your flag and your lore (as well as, of course, your memes)! I admire your creativity. Excellent work!


A former Italian colony in Central America, huh, interesting. I like these kind of novelty nations. Small, humble, and has an interesting history as well as concept to make up for it. More than a good military factbook ever could.
The Avant-Gardist State of Patagonia ~~~ Gauchos and Mapuches, orgies and parties, avant-garde art, futurism, syndicalism, the New Man, general strikes, the glorification of violence, spiritual nationalism, esoteric occultism, CIA spooks, Spartanian homosexuality, public sodomy, and more
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Rivogna
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Posts: 2
Founded: Jul 30, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Rivogna » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:08 pm

/bump
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Rivogna, the Land of RevivalSame Person as Ravennog

Rivogna was an Italian colony in Central America. It peacefully gained independence in the nineteenth century thanks to the United States, which did everything in its power to keep Europeans out of the Americas. Currently, Rivogna is a social-democratic country that closely aligns with the West.

I hope you have a great day, kind stranger

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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Posts: 4439
Founded: Apr 21, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:14 pm

*Inhales*

I love your Among Us-ized flag; it's so cool and well-executed! And I'm sure you've heard this a lot, and rightly so, but your factbooks are truly phenomenal, both format-and content-wise. They're immersive and highly detailed, and I love the white text on dark backgrounds. Also, I hope your factbooks make it all the way to the end in the context, because they are seriously amazing and deserve awards.

Your IC F7 posts are delightfully cursed, and your characters are very well fleshed-out. Their personalities are so disparate from those of my characters that any IC reactions we have are bound to be...special, which adds to the fun of responding to your characters. They're so distinctive, so iconic, so cursed, that they are just inimitable.
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Tiny, Shakespeare-obsessed island nation northeast of NZ settled by HRE emigrants who thought they'd landed in the West Indies. F7 Stuff Somewhat Not Canon; RP is in real time; Ignore Stats; Still Not Kenneth Branagh.
The Western Fardelshufflestein Sentinel | 1 May 2021 | King "Adjusting Well" to Rehab| WF Man Arrested for Trying to Streak on Parliament Floor

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Connomia
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Dec 05, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Connomia » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:19 pm

Bro, you're one of the most famous and recognizable people here! I wish I could be as famous here as you are.

Your factbooks are also really great.
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The Alkdorian Empire
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Posts: 10
Founded: Oct 02, 2020
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby The Alkdorian Empire » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:25 pm

On the basis that you will be another one of those players that are highly thorough in writing up their nations. I can say you pretty much complimented yourself despite still being in the early development stages.
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Rivogna
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Posts: 2
Founded: Jul 30, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Rivogna » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:29 pm

Wow! Your dispatches are incredibly detailed! I sense you have a strong work ethic. I also love your fantasy map in your overview. I would love to make a fantasy map myself, but I don't know how to make one.
Rivogna, the Land of RevivalSame Person as Ravennog

Rivogna was an Italian colony in Central America. It peacefully gained independence in the nineteenth century thanks to the United States, which did everything in its power to keep Europeans out of the Americas. Currently, Rivogna is a social-democratic country that closely aligns with the West.

I hope you have a great day, kind stranger

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Kiu Ghesik
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Posts: 8939
Founded: Aug 25, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kiu Ghesik » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:29 pm

tbh bro even though i don't know all that much about you per se i do find it impressive that you've managed to involve other nations and users in your lore across multiple nations in so significant a fashion. that really is a pretty cool choice, and given that the only other person i've ever seen really pull it off without it coming off as out of place was literally eisenstern it's pretty impressive of you to do.

an: while i haven't gotten that deep into your lore, you do seem to be a really great graphic designer, and i can respect the hell out of that- my own meager attempts at graphic design have shown me that it's much, much harder than writing, at least for me, and you do it really well in both your flags and the images smattering your dispatches.
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Brief
Caller
Clans
Strife
Words
Faith

 ✵  THE GREAT KIU - EJADRIR DEGHEU GIYEF KHUDEYVH. ✵ 

Questions | Soon | Nomadwave | Musings on PT | Gathering
✵ A newly-birthed confederation of insular nomadic clansmen struggling to remain a local great power in the face of their expanding foes. May or may not be united by worship of an eldritch mother-goddess. Now with extra align=center!

✵ Our Foreign Policy: Надад мөнгөө өг | Cities Razed Times Our Policy Has Been Disrespected: 50

✵ After a bout of complete creative bankruptcy I have three new nation ideas, no time to implement all of them, and not enough self-control to not try anyways. C'est la vie.
She's loyal, smol, ready to rol. Big big bowl, full of rol. Smol rol, big bowl. Cinny rol, big bowl, smol rol.


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FenexOrg
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Posts: 11
Founded: Nov 28, 2020
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby FenexOrg » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:40 pm

Your Map of the nation looks highly professional, what software did you use?

Also, your flag is both simple and unique, a hard combination to master. It also speaks to the nature of the land in symbolism, which I also found kinda neat.


Kiu Ghesik:

Alright, there's a lot to go around but as of now, I'm going to pick two, one as a nation and one as a user.

1. Your culture is highly detailed and though it borrows a lot from tengriism irl it's also quite distinct and memorable. In fact, so memorable that nations like the United Australasian Commonwealth used it in their own lore.

2. As a user you have been very chill and a consistent effortposter. Your sense of humor, while off-the-wall sometimes, is also quite nice and is a breath of fresh air. In a way, I kinda see you as a role model.
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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Founded: Apr 21, 2020
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:01 pm

Ignore this post.
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Tiny, Shakespeare-obsessed island nation northeast of NZ settled by HRE emigrants who thought they'd landed in the West Indies. F7 Stuff Somewhat Not Canon; RP is in real time; Ignore Stats; Still Not Kenneth Branagh.
The Western Fardelshufflestein Sentinel | 1 May 2021 | King "Adjusting Well" to Rehab| WF Man Arrested for Trying to Streak on Parliament Floor

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Kiu Ghesik
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Posts: 8939
Founded: Aug 25, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kiu Ghesik » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:34 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Azgaar Fantasy Map Genertor. 'Tis lit.
/Skip

nope, that's handmade iirc. i believe i saw a guide on how to make something similar on r/worldbuilding back in summer 2020 when i still regularly lurked reddit; i think there's a guide on yt somewhere on how to make that artstyle in photoshop as well but i don't know where to look beyond maybe artifexian or someone like that.

fenex: i did see uac's, uh, "interpretation" of my own lore, it was mildly amusing at the time and now has simply progressed into "vague annoyance" but hey not much i can do about it, ig.

/skip, do FenexOrg
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Brief
Caller
Clans
Strife
Words
Faith

 ✵  THE GREAT KIU - EJADRIR DEGHEU GIYEF KHUDEYVH. ✵ 

Questions | Soon | Nomadwave | Musings on PT | Gathering
✵ A newly-birthed confederation of insular nomadic clansmen struggling to remain a local great power in the face of their expanding foes. May or may not be united by worship of an eldritch mother-goddess. Now with extra align=center!

✵ Our Foreign Policy: Надад мөнгөө өг | Cities Razed Times Our Policy Has Been Disrespected: 50

✵ After a bout of complete creative bankruptcy I have three new nation ideas, no time to implement all of them, and not enough self-control to not try anyways. C'est la vie.
She's loyal, smol, ready to rol. Big big bowl, full of rol. Smol rol, big bowl. Cinny rol, big bowl, smol rol.


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Madrinpoor
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Posts: 1229
Founded: Dec 01, 2020
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Madrinpoor » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:18 pm

love how you combined owning parts of space, heaven, and hell

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Diarcesia
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Posts: 3543
Founded: Aug 21, 2016
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Diarcesia » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:21 pm

Madrinpoor wrote:love how you combined owning parts of space, heaven, and hell

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I admire the conceptualization of a former Spanish colony in the Malay peninsula. Not only that, but your factbooks are well-written and informative.
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The Alkdorian Empire
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 10
Founded: Oct 02, 2020
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby The Alkdorian Empire » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:21 pm

A very detailed nation that makes it almost believable to have been an actual real country.
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Surrealist Patagonia
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 100
Founded: Oct 07, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Surrealist Patagonia » Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:52 pm

Very ornate flag and your choice in leader pics are well, interesting.
The Avant-Gardist State of Patagonia ~~~ Gauchos and Mapuches, orgies and parties, avant-garde art, futurism, syndicalism, the New Man, general strikes, the glorification of violence, spiritual nationalism, esoteric occultism, CIA spooks, Spartanian homosexuality, public sodomy, and more
    Triomphe du Surréalisme (1968)
  • There are many things said about Patagonia but few actually know what goes on behind the Andes mountains. Tales of human depravation and man's inner darkest self run wild. A place where avant-garde culture flourish and the artist don't fear the censor. Where all live bold and free under the gaze of the Patron. Yet all dreams will come to an end soon...
  • Not expecting an essay. Just a couple of sentences that shows that you know my work well enough

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