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Las Palmeras
Minister
 
Posts: 3375
Founded: Jun 15, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Las Palmeras » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:40 pm

Persagonian Republic wrote:You are the only nation I know who makes a mockery out of the death of a Prime Minister.


Oh look hey, they ignored you and the last time somebody put a /skip over me some noob skipped me anyways because people can't TG so I might as well kill two birds with one stone...

Persagonian Republic: They are emotionally invested in Iran, maybe they're Iranian or diaspora...IDK. What I do know is that they make several alternate versions of a main nation and play around with varying ideologies that same nation may have. Even if they're almost always secular republics or close to the Shah.
Hey hey, LP here: Too burnt out with this nation to make new lore or fix macrohistorical longue durée alt-his inconsistencies, too clingy to let it die.
UPHOLD SOUTH REINISM-LENINISM! UNLIMITED DESTRUCTION OF 1ST WORLD HETERRHOIDS!
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Rolancia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 45
Founded: Jul 15, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Rolancia » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:20 pm

Their hand drawn pictures, in which adds context to their historical background
  • NS Stats are Not used.
  • A puppet of your possibly good friend, Soleanna
  • Do refer Rolancia as Rolance, due to the intended name being already taken.
  • All visual graphics are designed by myself Annolix, if not modified to my liking ex. characters, cities.
  • If you're interested in a medieval fantasy region join Maotelia, and it's thread
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Silver Commonwealth
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Posts: 1828
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:51 pm

Well, their tendency to make authoritarian monarchies?
✥ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴇᴡꜱ ✥
- ꜱɴɴ
- ᴀʀᴄʜɪᴠᴇ
✉ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ ✉
- ᴀᴅᴍɪɴɪꜱᴛʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ
- ꜱᴛᴏʀɪᴇꜱ
⚒ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘᴜʙʟɪᴄ ᴏꜰ ꜱɪʟᴠᴇʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴᴡᴇᴀʟᴛʜ ⚒
|☐ʜᴏᴍᴇ☐|❖ꜱᴄ ɪɴ ʜᴏɪ4❖|★ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ʀᴀᴅɪᴏ&ʟᴏᴄᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ★|❇ᴄᴏɴꜱᴛɪᴛᴜᴛɪᴏɴ❇|✧ᴍɪʟɪᴛᴀʀʏ✧|✝ᴍᴀᴘꜱ&ɪɴꜰᴏ✝|☢ʜɪꜱᴛᴏʀʏ☢|
⚖ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀᴀᴛᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ꜰᴇʟʟ, ʀᴀᴅɪᴄᴀʟɪᴢᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ꜱᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴇʀꜱ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴍᴇ ᴀ ᴍᴀᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴀʟ ☠
_[⚔][☯][ॐ][⚛][✿][★][L'''][Σ][✹][~][❀][✸][➸]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(⌐▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

This nation does not represent my views obviously

Made a gif flag for card season 3

Perhaps instead of rework I should just add new stuff and perform factbook maintenance, huh

''I thought that I was a conservative. Turns out, I was just sentimental at times''
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Great Celestial China
Envoy
 
Posts: 298
Founded: Dec 17, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Celestial China » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:52 pm

The fact that they have a high chance of ninja'ing me
A 12 civilization, according to this index.
I'll add more in my sig eventually
I gave up fixing the flag, might ask for help one day
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Silver Commonwealth
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Posts: 1828
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:16 pm

Well, their love, and dedication for the old Chinese culture, because I yet have to see a Chinese dynasty nation, in which so much thought has been put in.
✥ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴇᴡꜱ ✥
- ꜱɴɴ
- ᴀʀᴄʜɪᴠᴇ
✉ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ ✉
- ᴀᴅᴍɪɴɪꜱᴛʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ
- ꜱᴛᴏʀɪᴇꜱ
⚒ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘᴜʙʟɪᴄ ᴏꜰ ꜱɪʟᴠᴇʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴᴡᴇᴀʟᴛʜ ⚒
|☐ʜᴏᴍᴇ☐|❖ꜱᴄ ɪɴ ʜᴏɪ4❖|★ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ʀᴀᴅɪᴏ&ʟᴏᴄᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ★|❇ᴄᴏɴꜱᴛɪᴛᴜᴛɪᴏɴ❇|✧ᴍɪʟɪᴛᴀʀʏ✧|✝ᴍᴀᴘꜱ&ɪɴꜰᴏ✝|☢ʜɪꜱᴛᴏʀʏ☢|
⚖ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀᴀᴛᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ꜰᴇʟʟ, ʀᴀᴅɪᴄᴀʟɪᴢᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ꜱᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴇʀꜱ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴍᴇ ᴀ ᴍᴀᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴀʟ ☠
_[⚔][☯][ॐ][⚛][✿][★][L'''][Σ][✹][~][❀][✸][➸]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(⌐▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

This nation does not represent my views obviously

Made a gif flag for card season 3

Perhaps instead of rework I should just add new stuff and perform factbook maintenance, huh

''I thought that I was a conservative. Turns out, I was just sentimental at times''
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Rolancia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 45
Founded: Jul 15, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Rolancia » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:21 pm

Their anticipation for fallout 76 :p
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  • A puppet of your possibly good friend, Soleanna
  • Do refer Rolancia as Rolance, due to the intended name being already taken.
  • All visual graphics are designed by myself Annolix, if not modified to my liking ex. characters, cities.
  • If you're interested in a medieval fantasy region join Maotelia, and it's thread
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Persagonian Republic
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 13
Founded: Apr 13, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Persagonian Republic » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:51 am

Hey, you've got pretty nice drawings for your monarchs.
The State of Iran ✺ "Independence, Freedom, and the Iranian Nation"
Welcome to Iran | Overview | Anthem | Retcon Underway | Set in: 1980
After the success of the Nojeh Coup; Iran becomes a transitional regency, hybrid (military) regime which clamps down on everything politically Islamic. Now suffering from an Afghan-like insurgency from the Quds and MEK, and intricate deep state politics between the Gang of Four.
The "Persagonian Republic" is a misnomer. We are a transitional regency.
Ettela'at News: Previous officials of the old IR regime including Abdolhassan Banisadr and Ali Rajai reported missing after the Qom Raid. Rumors are abound that the Islamists are assembling the Al-Quds opposition to wage jihad against the new govt.
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Kyrinasaj
Diplomat
 
Posts: 667
Founded: Jul 09, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Kyrinasaj » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:54 am

Their take on a liberal democratic Persian
A former monarchy transitioning into industrial socialism from a agrarian and local economy
A personMore?
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Vadterland
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 132
Founded: Jul 12, 2018
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Vadterland » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:58 am

You don't often see a lot of nationalistic anarchists, so that's interesting I suppose.
The Germanian Empire | "Unser Vaterland, Herrscher der Asche..."
Factbooks | Music | Tech Level: PT/FanT | Current Year: 1943 UE (1958 AD)
In a strange world not so different from ours, a young empire stands in the heart of Europa. Born and forged in the fires of war, it is headed by an embittered Kaiserin and a camarilla of aging, scheming generals. Stretched to a breaking point and groaning under the stress and hubris of its past victories, the Fatherland stands on guard. But on the forefront of a new world, fighting a new war from without and within, will it survive?
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Frievolk
Minister
 
Posts: 3368
Founded: Jun 14, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Frievolk » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:01 am

Your nations have an extensive serious world-building behind them that is not common, especially for those of us in the F7.
OOC
Libertarian Constitutionalist
Part-time Anarchist
Anti-Monotheist
Iranian Nationalist
Templates
♔ The Frievolker Empire || Frievolker Kaiserreik ♔
♔ The Realm in the Sun || De Reik in de Sonne ♔
♔ Led by Kaiser Johann, Part of the Erstwelt ♔
Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.
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Theurgia
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 134
Founded: Apr 30, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Theurgia » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:17 am

Seems to exhibit some sort of fantasy about taking over Wallonia by Dutch/Flemish/Germanic forces. (Based on territory and linguistic factors in Factbook).
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Cantelo
Diplomat
 
Posts: 529
Founded: Mar 28, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Cantelo » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:27 am

They have a website for their nation
Forever a Pilgrim; Oviedo - Santiago de Compostela 370km
Kingdom of Cantelo - Reín de Cantelo - Regne de Cantelo - Reialme de Cantelo
At a Glance | Cardona Journal | Queen Isabella I | Parliament of Cantelo | National Anthem of Cantelo
I like making flags for fun, shoot me a telegram if you’d like one made!
Spanish-American college student with an addiction to sushi. Political Compass
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The Ashkeran Empire
Secretary
 
Posts: 40
Founded: Jan 20, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby The Ashkeran Empire » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:56 am

Cantelo wrote:They have a website for their nation

You make your own flags.
[| Voice of the Imperium|] Anomalies reported in the Helivium Sector,  Skull’s Deathwatch Battlefleet have been deployed to investigate the reported anomalies. | Imperial Church, High Priestess, foretells of “a man dressed in iron, shall unleash his undying vengeance against the heroes of the divine.“ |

I don’t use NS stats. At all.
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Silver Commonwealth
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Posts: 1828
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:38 pm

Their leaders tend to have a fair deal of edge, and are mostly either anime characters, or something to that side.
✥ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴇᴡꜱ ✥
- ꜱɴɴ
- ᴀʀᴄʜɪᴠᴇ
✉ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ ✉
- ᴀᴅᴍɪɴɪꜱᴛʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ
- ꜱᴛᴏʀɪᴇꜱ
⚒ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘᴜʙʟɪᴄ ᴏꜰ ꜱɪʟᴠᴇʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴᴡᴇᴀʟᴛʜ ⚒
|☐ʜᴏᴍᴇ☐|❖ꜱᴄ ɪɴ ʜᴏɪ4❖|★ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ʀᴀᴅɪᴏ&ʟᴏᴄᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ★|❇ᴄᴏɴꜱᴛɪᴛᴜᴛɪᴏɴ❇|✧ᴍɪʟɪᴛᴀʀʏ✧|✝ᴍᴀᴘꜱ&ɪɴꜰᴏ✝|☢ʜɪꜱᴛᴏʀʏ☢|
⚖ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀᴀᴛᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ꜰᴇʟʟ, ʀᴀᴅɪᴄᴀʟɪᴢᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ꜱᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴇʀꜱ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴍᴇ ᴀ ᴍᴀᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴀʟ ☠
_[⚔][☯][ॐ][⚛][✿][★][L'''][Σ][✹][~][❀][✸][➸]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(⌐▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

This nation does not represent my views obviously

Made a gif flag for card season 3

Perhaps instead of rework I should just add new stuff and perform factbook maintenance, huh

''I thought that I was a conservative. Turns out, I was just sentimental at times''
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Persagonian Republic
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 13
Founded: Apr 13, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Persagonian Republic » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:56 pm

You took the time to actually flesh out your leaders as well as officials. A fascist superpower modeled after 1930s fascist parties in a post-apocalyptic society is interesting enough in itself.
The State of Iran ✺ "Independence, Freedom, and the Iranian Nation"
Welcome to Iran | Overview | Anthem | Retcon Underway | Set in: 1980
After the success of the Nojeh Coup; Iran becomes a transitional regency, hybrid (military) regime which clamps down on everything politically Islamic. Now suffering from an Afghan-like insurgency from the Quds and MEK, and intricate deep state politics between the Gang of Four.
The "Persagonian Republic" is a misnomer. We are a transitional regency.
Ettela'at News: Previous officials of the old IR regime including Abdolhassan Banisadr and Ali Rajai reported missing after the Qom Raid. Rumors are abound that the Islamists are assembling the Al-Quds opposition to wage jihad against the new govt.
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Garoarsholmur
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Aug 14, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Garoarsholmur » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:00 pm

>Is Middle Eastern
>Is Secular?

No_one_has_ever_done_this.mp3
As my factbooks are limited right now, imagine an occult version of iceland that was isolated for about a thousand years until it was invaded by the UK in WWII and released in the 60s. Imagine that for the entirety of history until WWII, paganism was still dominant in the country and it was ruled by Prophets. Today the country is locking itself down and halting attempts to alter their way of life- as the British did to them- by any means necessary.
NS Stats can die
Eldrith is not the leader of the MT nation and is only for Forum 7 leader threads right now.
I might make Eldrith have a separate nation than this one, or have her be the nation. I haven't decided but I dislike tech mixing into one nation.

Puppet of a nation that I'm not mentioning here.
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Great Celestial China
Envoy
 
Posts: 298
Founded: Dec 17, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Great Celestial China » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:03 pm

They have a poll on what they should do, with only 3 votes so far
A 12 civilization, according to this index.
I'll add more in my sig eventually
I gave up fixing the flag, might ask for help one day
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Dawetid
Diplomat
 
Posts: 850
Founded: Jul 12, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Dawetid » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:06 pm

Their obsession with artillery only.
There are some people that are there purely to oppose everything I say or do.
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Banned because all hail ban-hammer, the only true ruler and savior of this thread.

[REDACTED] wrote:Although, let's talk about your obsession with ŋ, k, and j.

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Zitravgrad
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Posts: 1218
Founded: Sep 27, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Zitravgrad » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:24 am

The cool scripts they come up with.
❄ ❄ United Federation of Zitravgrad ❄ ❄
PMT/Early FT - Decopunk. Zitravgrad is a crowned republic in a planet somewhere else in the universe. The formerly wartorn nation keeps a facade of normalcy and order while enjoying the societal and cultural decadence that marks the new Roaring Twenties. The paranoid authoritarian government tries its best to uphold order in the face of uncertainty, while its people want nothing more than a breathing space. A deal that works, but maybe not in the long run. | My NS-Related Art | Hehe bad meme as flag
Providenska's Herald: "Publish or Perish" culture contributes to stress in academia | Public Smoking Ban revisited - authority urged to take it more seriously
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Persagonian Republic
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 13
Founded: Apr 13, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Persagonian Republic » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:13 am

Their revisionist, Chinese state capitalistic, elitist system technocratic socialistic ideals as well as their Glasnost social policies.
The State of Iran ✺ "Independence, Freedom, and the Iranian Nation"
Welcome to Iran | Overview | Anthem | Retcon Underway | Set in: 1980
After the success of the Nojeh Coup; Iran becomes a transitional regency, hybrid (military) regime which clamps down on everything politically Islamic. Now suffering from an Afghan-like insurgency from the Quds and MEK, and intricate deep state politics between the Gang of Four.
The "Persagonian Republic" is a misnomer. We are a transitional regency.
Ettela'at News: Previous officials of the old IR regime including Abdolhassan Banisadr and Ali Rajai reported missing after the Qom Raid. Rumors are abound that the Islamists are assembling the Al-Quds opposition to wage jihad against the new govt.
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Kyrinasaj
Diplomat
 
Posts: 667
Founded: Jul 09, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Kyrinasaj » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:14 am

Being a post-revolutionary democratic Iran
A former monarchy transitioning into industrial socialism from a agrarian and local economy
A personMore?
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New Vlada
Attaché
 
Posts: 68
Founded: Oct 30, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby New Vlada » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:16 am

the flag
Owner state: U Vladi narudzbe
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Persagonian Republic
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 13
Founded: Apr 13, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Persagonian Republic » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:18 am

Their whale flag.
The State of Iran ✺ "Independence, Freedom, and the Iranian Nation"
Welcome to Iran | Overview | Anthem | Retcon Underway | Set in: 1980
After the success of the Nojeh Coup; Iran becomes a transitional regency, hybrid (military) regime which clamps down on everything politically Islamic. Now suffering from an Afghan-like insurgency from the Quds and MEK, and intricate deep state politics between the Gang of Four.
The "Persagonian Republic" is a misnomer. We are a transitional regency.
Ettela'at News: Previous officials of the old IR regime including Abdolhassan Banisadr and Ali Rajai reported missing after the Qom Raid. Rumors are abound that the Islamists are assembling the Al-Quds opposition to wage jihad against the new govt.
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Eodor
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Posts: 1781
Founded: Oct 26, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Eodor » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:19 am

Their definitely not budget Indian flag
JUSTICE FOR SOUTH REINKALISTAN
JANNIES DONE /OURGUY/ WRONG
DOWN WITH THE HETMOB
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Silver Commonwealth
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Posts: 1828
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:20 am

Their like against 90s rap in particular, and their stories always feel so... Realistic. I mean, they sound like things, that could have been in a some alternate universe.

AN: Enclave banner on it, perhaps?
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✥ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴇᴡꜱ ✥
- ꜱɴɴ
- ᴀʀᴄʜɪᴠᴇ
✉ ʀᴀɴᴅᴏᴍ ✉
- ᴀᴅᴍɪɴɪꜱᴛʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴ
- ꜱᴛᴏʀɪᴇꜱ
⚒ ᴛʜᴇ ɴᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ ʀᴇᴘᴜʙʟɪᴄ ᴏꜰ ꜱɪʟᴠᴇʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴏɴᴡᴇᴀʟᴛʜ ⚒
|☐ʜᴏᴍᴇ☐|❖ꜱᴄ ɪɴ ʜᴏɪ4❖|★ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ʀᴀᴅɪᴏ&ʟᴏᴄᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ★|❇ᴄᴏɴꜱᴛɪᴛᴜᴛɪᴏɴ❇|✧ᴍɪʟɪᴛᴀʀʏ✧|✝ᴍᴀᴘꜱ&ɪɴꜰᴏ✝|☢ʜɪꜱᴛᴏʀʏ☢|
⚖ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏᴅᴇʀᴀᴛᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴏᴜɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇᴍ ꜰᴇʟʟ, ʀᴀᴅɪᴄᴀʟɪᴢᴀᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴄ'ꜱ ᴅᴇᴍᴏᴄʀᴀᴄʏ ꜱᴜᴘᴘᴏʀᴛᴇʀꜱ ʙᴇᴄᴀᴍᴇ ᴀ ᴍᴀᴛᴛᴇʀ ᴏꜰ ꜱᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴀʟ ☠
_[⚔][☯][ॐ][⚛][✿][★][L'''][Σ][✹][~][❀][✸][➸]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(⌐▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

This nation does not represent my views obviously

Made a gif flag for card season 3

Perhaps instead of rework I should just add new stuff and perform factbook maintenance, huh

''I thought that I was a conservative. Turns out, I was just sentimental at times''
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