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Pacomia
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Founded: May 23, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Pacomia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:50 pm

Mauropolis wrote:Disagreed. It is not a nation.
Authoritarian - potentially even totalitarian - leadership is better suited for certain crises and disasters than democracies.

alright listen here you fucking-

...No, I can’t allow myself to go on a killing spree because someone said Cascadia wasn’t a country. I already killed 30,000 people, no more.

/skip
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:51 pm

Disagree. Embracing totalitarianism in crisis often leads to totalitarianism remaining when the crisis has averted, and may even make the crisis worse.


Deontology versus consequentialism is a spectrum rather than a binary.
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Soleos
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Founded: Aug 14, 2018
Father Knows Best State

Postby Soleos » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:06 am

Disagree. They're more akin to Materialism vs Spiritualism in differences. Not the same, but trying to answer the similar questions.


'Feel good' diets like Keto, Vegan, etc, ignoring possible religious or moral reasons, is absolutely nonsense. Compare people who eat at AYCE Shabu Shabu and those vegans shoving their face with deep fried gluten free keto potato chips loaded with cruelty-free sugar and you can see why health fads are bs: boiled lean meats with hella vegetables is always better than meatless pizza coated in oil and saturated fats.

Get off your couch and start doing resistance and cardiovascular training you lazy assholes. If you have the money for Whole Foods, you have the money for 24 Hour Fitness. It should say something when meat loving Singaporeans and Koreans somehow live longer than fad-diet obsessed Europeans.

Side Hill: Labor laws in the USA should include exercise and public schools include health related classes as mandatory.
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An interstellar Technocratic & Progressive, albeit Fascist state ruled by Administrator Nadia Elbaz, elected by the Technocratic Council, a committee of intellectual elites. Only Academic elites can hold political power. Anti-Technocracy advocates are "Recycled" in the name of progress. Citizenry is taken care of so they can focus on innovation or service to the Technocracy.

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Mauropolis
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Founded: Jul 17, 2019
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Mauropolis » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:16 am

Pacomia wrote:
Mauropolis wrote:Disagreed. It is not a nation.
Authoritarian - potentially even totalitarian - leadership is better suited for certain crises and disasters than democracies.

alright listen here you fucking-

...No, I can’t allow myself to go on a killing spree because someone said Cascadia wasn’t a country. I already killed 30,000 people, no more.

/skip

As far as I am aware, there is no collective Cascadian identity or culture, thus there is no nation. Along with that, I recall the term "Cascadia" includes British Columbia, which is part of Canada.

BTW, you misused the word "country". A country refers to a self-governing entity or sovereign state as far as I’m aware, which the USA is and Cascadia is not and never was. I believe you meant the word "nation", which constitutes a collective identity.

So, in conclusion: Cascadia is neither a country nor a nation.
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First American Empire
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Founded: Mar 12, 2019
Libertarian Police State

Postby First American Empire » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:49 am

Mauropolis wrote:
Pacomia wrote:alright listen here you fucking-

...No, I can’t allow myself to go on a killing spree because someone said Cascadia wasn’t a country. I already killed 30,000 people, no more.

/skip

As far as I am aware, there is no collective Cascadian identity or culture, thus there is no nation. Along with that, I recall the term "Cascadia" includes British Columbia, which is part of Canada.

BTW, you misused the word "country". A country refers to a self-governing entity or sovereign state as far as I’m aware, which the USA is and Cascadia is not and never was. I believe you meant the word "nation", which constitutes a collective identity.

So, in conclusion: Cascadia is neither a country nor a nation.
/skip


I actually live here in Cascadia. We do indeed have a collective identity that transcends the US/Canadian Border. (I don't support independence though, I'd rather have it be unified as part of Canada.)

/Skip
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Catsfern
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Founded: Mar 09, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Catsfern » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:23 am

Soleos wrote:Disagree. They're more akin to Materialism vs Spiritualism in differences. Not the same, but trying to answer the similar questions.


'Feel good' diets like Keto, Vegan, etc, ignoring possible religious or moral reasons, is absolutely nonsense. Compare people who eat at AYCE Shabu Shabu and those vegans shoving their face with deep fried gluten free keto potato chips loaded with cruelty-free sugar and you can see why health fads are bs: boiled lean meats with hella vegetables is always better than meatless pizza coated in oil and saturated fats.

Get off your couch and start doing resistance and cardiovascular training you lazy assholes. If you have the money for Whole Foods, you have the money for 24 Hour Fitness. It should say something when meat loving Singaporeans and Koreans somehow live longer than fad-diet obsessed Europeans.

Side Hill: Labor laws in the USA should include exercise and public schools include health related classes as mandatory.


dissagree with the first part, agree with the second part, but i'm pretty sure that's a state level thing.

no one group of people deserves any more political rights freedoms, or privileges than any other. Including affirmative action or health care benefits.
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Soleos
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Founded: Aug 14, 2018
Father Knows Best State

Postby Soleos » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:17 am

Disagree. Some people deserve more than others based on merit and/or historical marginalization so they can 'catch up'.


American Conservatives who berate public education as some evil indoctrination centers should be denied any and all access to public services. Alternatively, Democrats who voted for Hillary in 2008 against Obama should be denied Obamacare and those who voted for her in 2016 should be denied Medicare for All until they prove their repentance. You halted progress, people died along the way because of your 'harmless' action of voting for someone who'll rather poorer people die than afford healthcare, yet you demand the same access as people who grieved a dead relative, or are drowning in unpayable debt, because of you?

Terrorist-Lite ideologies should be aggressively curbed, otherwise, it'll create a dim witted society easy to manipulate by tyrants. Democracy can only survive, according to Aldous Huxley's essay "Brave New World Revisited", as long as the average voter is well informed of the world around them and a basic understanding of various subjects. 'Centrist Democrats' to Republicans & Libertarians are lacking in that regard, and you're seeing Communist far left antifa Democrats like Nancy Pelosi denouncing healthcare as 'radical' as a result. Americans are a unique demographic in that we only learn not to touch the fire until it burned off our hand to the point of uselessness after touching it.
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Strahcoin
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Posts: 191
Founded: Jun 01, 2019
Free-Market Paradise

Postby Strahcoin » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:44 am

Soleos wrote:American Conservatives who berate public education as some evil indoctrination centers should be denied any and all access to public services. Alternatively, Democrats who voted for Hillary in 2008 against Obama should be denied Obamacare and those who voted for her in 2016 should be denied Medicare for All until they prove their repentance. You halted progress, people died along the way because of your 'harmless' action of voting for someone who'll rather poorer people die than afford healthcare, yet you demand the same access as people who grieved a dead relative, or are drowning in unpayable debt, because of you?

Terrorist-Lite ideologies should be aggressively curbed, otherwise, it'll create a dim witted society easy to manipulate by tyrants. Democracy can only survive, according to Aldous Huxley's essay "Brave New World Revisited", as long as the average voter is well informed of the world around them and a basic understanding of various subjects. 'Centrist Democrats' to Republicans & Libertarians are lacking in that regard, and you're seeing Communist far left antifa Democrats like Nancy Pelosi denouncing healthcare as 'radical' as a result. Americans are a unique demographic in that we only learn not to touch the fire until it burned off our hand to the point of uselessness after touching it.

Fully disagree; people should have the freedom of speech and expression, and the government should not discriminate based on ideas. THAT is the only way democracy can survive. Suppression of ideas, even the terrible ones, will inevitably lead to tyranny. (Besides, how can you know whether or not the ideology is terrible?)

Donald Trump and his supporters are not racist, sexist, bigoted, etc., and they should be respected like any other honest American.
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Free Arabian Nation
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Founded: May 02, 2018
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Free Arabian Nation » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:46 am

Agreed. Not every Trump supporter is Trump. Some just like his populist lies




The biggest threat to Democracy is not Partisanism or Radicalization, but populism.
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North German Realm
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Founded: Jan 27, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby North German Realm » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:46 am

No. At this point, anyone who still backs and supports Trump is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, and should be called out for it. Sadly, that is not "a small minority" in Americans as originally believed.


There are many who vote for a politician who do not support him.
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Auzkhia
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Auzkhia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:54 am

Agree to some extent, some people do that as strategic voting, as a socialist, I find myself not supporting almost anyone, but voting for democrats as they are the lesser evil, and socdems are the closest views acceptable in the mainstream electorate.

Most narratives about development, especially first world vs third world, are quite inaccurate and neoliberal fantasies, as they assume every country is a unified black box, and tend to ignore wealth gaps.
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New Cabo Azul
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Cabo Azul » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:02 pm

Neutral.



Königsberg should be given back to Germany.
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The Great-German Empire
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New York Times Democracy

Postby The Great-German Empire » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:07 pm

Disagreed as it's quite useless to do so currently, considering only Russians inhabit it. But I do agree that its seizure should never have happened.




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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Auzkhia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:05 pm

Disagree, they are.

Federalism is ideal for most countries that have any strong regional divides and size.
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Martune
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Martune » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:09 pm

Disagree, the only solution is a complete dissolution of the country into its respective regions

Their is no efficiency in government
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North German Realm
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby North German Realm » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:34 pm

Agree. The thing is, It's just the most efficient thing that we have.


Trump's foreign policy is on point.
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Poisonous gas, constant artillery barrages, machines that can mow through trenches without a halt! Will this cursed War ever end?
Overview | Kaiser | Chancellor | Legislature | Military
4 April 1910
Norddeutsche Morgenpost: Third Battle of Verdun Britain unleashes warmachine capable of moving through trenches, barbed wire upon innocent French and North German soldiers. | Riga falls to North German troops. Russian military power nearly dismantled. | Russians pushed completely out of Bulgaria! | Slavery finally banned in China. Nobility in protest!

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Boring People
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Postby Boring People » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:18 pm

Disagree

Buffalo, New York has a better climate than Miami, Florida.

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Pacomia
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Pacomia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:22 pm

Mauropolis wrote:
Pacomia wrote:alright listen here you fucking-

...No, I can’t allow myself to go on a killing spree because someone said Cascadia wasn’t a country. I already killed 30,000 people, no more.

/skip

As far as I am aware, there is no collective Cascadian identity or culture, thus there is no nation. Along with that, I recall the term "Cascadia" includes British Columbia, which is part of Canada.

BTW, you misused the word "country". A country refers to a self-governing entity or sovereign state as far as I’m aware, which the USA is and Cascadia is not and never was. I believe you meant the word "nation", which constitutes a collective identity.

So, in conclusion: Cascadia is neither a country nor a nation.
/skip

ALL I NEED IS AN ARMY THEN IT CAN BE BOTH

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Results of political tests I took meme
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right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem
Both the far left and far right are equally insane.
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Soleos
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Founded: Aug 14, 2018
Father Knows Best State

Postby Soleos » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:17 am

Boring People wrote:Disagree

Buffalo, New York has a better climate than Miami, Florida.


Disagree. I like the tropical climate and the ocean breeze of Miami.


It's ok to bully Liberals who unironically support anyone else but Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Andrew Yang, Mike Gravel, and Tulsi Gabbard (as right-wing as I'd go).

If you're willing to vote to kill future generations, destroy the environment, kill the sick, and stagnate America in Argentina-style decay into a near-permanent Middle Income Trap, you're just a victimless terrorist. Imagine wanting no solutions to America's problems and thinking you're valid. Your right to vote doesn't protect you from the grievances, anxiety, and anger of younger Millennials, Zoomers, and beyond calling you out
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The Xenopolis Confederation
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Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:26 am

Disagree with the bullying, but at the same time, if you generally want Biden to win, what are you doing?


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Catsfern
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Founded: Mar 09, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Catsfern » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:22 am

Agree, especially when you get one of those pairs of ear buds where only one of them works.

Snowpiercer is a really good but under appreciated movie these days.
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Valkalan
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Valkalan » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:14 pm

Agree. I once saw a strange fan theory that Snowpiercer was somehow connected to the original Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, with Gene Wilder.

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Great Algerstonia
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Founded: Mar 21, 2019
Conservative Democracy

Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:41 pm

Agreed.

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Raptcentia
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Founded: Jun 19, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Raptcentia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:43 pm

Agreed.

The fact that no dinosaurs are in space is outrageous

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Fallen Albali
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Founded: Mar 07, 2018
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Fallen Albali » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:23 pm

I know, right?! They're so fuckin badass, whomever decided that there should be no space dinosaurs is an embarrassment to the entire universe
uh, agreed
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