NATION

PASSWORD

Your opinion on a interesting fact about the AN (II)

The place to relax, unwind, share a joke, and generally goof off.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Borgevia
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Dec 22, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Borgevia » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:32 am

A hacker of that caliber is intimidating, and the eerily cheery mood of your nation makes it even more frightening.



Vietnam never fell to the French due to Borgovia's intervention as both France's most powerful ally in the New World and as a racist society that place Sinic cultures as an equal to Roman, Ethiopian, Persian, Jewish, and Levantine cultures. Borgovia knew France had a different view than Borgovians: Borgovians would develop its target to the point of having a sizable middle class population then have Borgovian corporations make up a large market share to not only profit from their skilled labor, but also have a large revenue from its middle class consumerism.

France, in this time (1800s), focused more on economic exploitation of natural resources. It is in Borgovia's interest to keep its 'equal' strong, and Korea already fell to Japan so Borgovia wouldn't want the 'Sinosphere' to fall into Balkanization. The city of Saigon became a French port state, however, similar to Hong Kong to the British, while the Empire of Vietnam was developed by Borgovia with roads, railways, ports, education program (also teaching French per agreement), and industrialization of its Mekong area making Vietnam an agricultural powerhouse as well as SEA's largest manufacturer of goods. Saigon developed more as a port city and a vacation spot under French colonial rule. In Borgovia's eyes, having a strong Vietnam that's friendly to the French-Borgovian alliance would weaken Britain's hegemony in the region and could better assist Japan & China in the case of aggression. Though Borgovia walks a very fragile eggshell keeping China and Japan, its two allies, on cordial terms.

It was because of French occupation of Saigon and Vietnam's close alliance with France & Borgovia that protected China from British opium as Borgovian and French troops stationed in Hainoi to Borgovian, French, and Vietnamese ships in French Saigon made it easy to supply the Chinese with troops and supplies. While France stayed out of the boardroom, Borgovia was hostile to Britain and showed willingness to defend China if needed which later formed the 'Pacific Pact' between the Siamese Kingdom, Empire of Vietnam, Qing China (later Republic of China later Taiwan), Empire of Japan, and the Republic of Borgovia until Japan and Thailand broke the pact and invaded both China and Vietnam during World War II resulting in Borgovia joining the allies with France. The French Third Republic was warming up to Britain and joining the pact wouldn't benefit France, though they still keep close alliance with Borgovia and Vietnam.

Saigon was then returned to Vietnam in 1949 as an agreement to release Cambodia and Laos from Vietnamese grip with the Vietnam war occurring years later. South Vietnam ("Empire of Vietnam") voted to remove the monarchy in place of a Pinochet-like Republic and North Vietnam became a communist state. North Vietnam in this universe lost the war and Vietnam liberalized its politics in the 1980s under "Doi Moi" but instead of an economic reform, it's a political reform.
Alt of Soleos. Was once a ruthless capitalist Corporate State in South America, but has since reformed into a Social Democratic, Federal, Parliamentary Republic whose politics is 90% of my irl views. Stay tuned for some world building info, I suppose. We used to be a Machiavellian, Corporate Republic until the 1950s. We're Spanish-Italian influenced.

The world in this nation is changing for the better, current year is 2042.

Call us "Borgovia".

User avatar
Uvoan
Attaché
 
Posts: 67
Founded: Apr 19, 2017
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Uvoan » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:43 pm

Borgevia wrote:A hacker of that caliber is intimidating, and the eerily cheery mood of your nation makes it even more frightening.



Vietnam never fell to the French due to Borgovia's intervention as both France's most powerful ally in the New World and as a racist society that place Sinic cultures as an equal to Roman, Ethiopian, Persian, Jewish, and Levantine cultures. Borgovia knew France had a different view than Borgovians: Borgovians would develop its target to the point of having a sizable middle class population then have Borgovian corporations make up a large market share to not only profit from their skilled labor, but also have a large revenue from its middle class consumerism.

France, in this time (1800s), focused more on economic exploitation of natural resources. It is in Borgovia's interest to keep its 'equal' strong, and Korea already fell to Japan so Borgovia wouldn't want the 'Sinosphere' to fall into Balkanization. The city of Saigon became a French port state, however, similar to Hong Kong to the British, while the Empire of Vietnam was developed by Borgovia with roads, railways, ports, education program (also teaching French per agreement), and industrialization of its Mekong area making Vietnam an agricultural powerhouse as well as SEA's largest manufacturer of goods. Saigon developed more as a port city and a vacation spot under French colonial rule. In Borgovia's eyes, having a strong Vietnam that's friendly to the French-Borgovian alliance would weaken Britain's hegemony in the region and could better assist Japan & China in the case of aggression. Though Borgovia walks a very fragile eggshell keeping China and Japan, its two allies, on cordial terms.

It was because of French occupation of Saigon and Vietnam's close alliance with France & Borgovia that protected China from British opium as Borgovian and French troops stationed in Hainoi to Borgovian, French, and Vietnamese ships in French Saigon made it easy to supply the Chinese with troops and supplies. While France stayed out of the boardroom, Borgovia was hostile to Britain and showed willingness to defend China if needed which later formed the 'Pacific Pact' between the Siamese Kingdom, Empire of Vietnam, Qing China (later Republic of China later Taiwan), Empire of Japan, and the Republic of Borgovia until Japan and Thailand broke the pact and invaded both China and Vietnam during World War II resulting in Borgovia joining the allies with France. The French Third Republic was warming up to Britain and joining the pact wouldn't benefit France, though they still keep close alliance with Borgovia and Vietnam.

Saigon was then returned to Vietnam in 1949 as an agreement to release Cambodia and Laos from Vietnamese grip with the Vietnam war occurring years later. South Vietnam ("Empire of Vietnam") voted to remove the monarchy in place of a Pinochet-like Republic and North Vietnam became a communist state. North Vietnam in this universe lost the war and Vietnam liberalized its politics in the 1980s under "Doi Moi" but instead of an economic reform, it's a political reform.


... Huh, sone of the most major military losses in US history went the exact opposite way. I mean, overall, the entire idea of what your nation did was an effective method of under-cutting the British, my only question is why the british didn't bring about their very large navy to solve this problem.




Continuing my recent naval trend, the 'Fish' class of Heavy Battlecruiser. These ships, the first twelve of which were laid down in December of 1936, were intended to serve as long range commerce raiders, and escorts. Weighing in at 40,000 tons displacement, they were some of the largest battlecruisers to be built aswell.

They were commissioned on July 2nd, 1938, a record 19 months construction time for these monstrous ships. Built with a design speed of 34.3 knots they were also the second fastest ship class of the war. With a primary battery of 9x 18" guns, a secondary battery of 24x 6" dual-purpose guns, and an anti-aircraft barrage of 196‬x 40MM Bofors. It also made use of 32x 533MM torpedo tubes, and two float-planes. This gave the ship a near unrivaled firepower for it's sheer size, would make the 'Fish' class of battlecruiser into a ship class which would rule their respective roles, with an ease unmatched until the late 1950s.

And in a hint of irony which only Uvoan could pull off with a straight face, they named the first ship the Tuna. Tuna, as in, the chicken of the seas. Uvoan has a thing for irony, if you couldn't guess.

The first engagement of the Fish class battlecruisers would come in 1939, with the class leader, The BC-32 'Tuna', engaging in the hunt for the german raider Graf Spee.

To paint the scene- The 'Tuna' weighed in at 40,000 tons. The Graf Spee made 16,020 when fully loaded. The Graf-Spee had 6, 11" guns. The Tuna had 9, 18" guns. The Graf Spee could only make 28.5 knots- Vs the 34.3 Knots of the Uvoanian battlecruiser. The result was obvious- It was just a matter of how long the Graf Spee could survive.

The 'Tuna' intercepted the Graf Spee late into the evening of December 12th- And turned it's monstrous, 18" gun armament on a cruiser with barely 4" of armor. The opening volley tore the Graf Spee apart, following an 18" shell striking a magazine, causing a detonation which only 16 crew members escaped from. All 16 were picked up by the Uvoanian Battlecruiser.

This battle would set the tune for the 'Fish' classes engagements throughout the war, heavily out-gunning and out-running nearly every opponent it fought, the captains of the 'Fish' class could pick and choose engagements, and this ship gained a reputation of being a terrifying design, capable of smashing apart even battleships that dared get infront of it. Ultimately, the Fish class of battlecruiser would be responsible for sinking over 850,000 tons of hostile merchant shipping.
Credit to Arkeyana for 'Schizotech'
"To my right was Europe, to my Left the Americas, and in front of me lay an uncertain future. To the rear was an era of slavery, and Monarchs. There was a chasm, which I bridged with two simple words-'Volan Tzaese.' This Rebellion." - Zkto' Zovban, 1922

User avatar
Borgevia
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Dec 22, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Borgevia » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:10 pm

In fairness, a military that has enough confidence to just make jokes about its naming convention is a frightening military. A navy that name things 'Tuna' or even 'Poke Bowl' and then later crushing thousands in battle means your military don't just think they're good, they are good. Psychological warfare in a sense


To add to your question and double as another fact:
France & Borgovia are very close allies. Borgovia also had close ties with China and Japan even though it's a very unstable alliance since both China and Japan are at each other's throats, united only by their preferential treatment by the Borgovian-French powers. Borgovia is also a close ally of the United States, who is very closely aligned with Britain. If Britain was to be aggressive to Franco-Borgovian interests in the Sinosphere, the tangled alliances and relations would not work in Britain's favour.

The USA may or may not side with Britain, France may be warming up to the British but Borgovia is a very profitable ally and more reliable. Not to mention French-Borgovian relations are the equivalent of US-Canada. The Ottoman Empire & Austro-Hungarian Empire are practically in serious debt to Borgovians and their economies stayed afloat due to Borgovian investments. Japan is a rising power and one of Borgovia's closest ally despite an unstable relation with China. Not to mention South America as a whole is very pro-Borgovian due to Borgovia practically turning them into Middle or high Middle income economies with a sizable middle class, infrastructure, trade agreements, and military pact. Brazil especially, took on a Stratocratic Republicanism and became one of the New World's Big Three behind only the USA and Borgovia.

A combination of a pro-Borgovia South America, various geopolitical alliances, and France just existing puts Britain in a geopolitical position to not take an aggressive stance towards China. Borgovia up until the 1950s is a nation run by the Corpus Board, a group of wealthy elites and have so far made very calculating, pragmatic decisions that maximizes their realpolitik opportunities and knew full well how to exploit tangling geopolitical situations. All Britain can do is avoid a direct confrontation and play their cards which include cozying up to the German Empire and Russian Empire to have some leverage on the Franco-Borgovian hegemony over the Sinosphere with the British having hegemony over the Indosphere. This is what made World War I as complicated as IRL: all the tangling alliances.

On the topic of WWI, the factions are Britain, France, USA, Borgovia vs Germany, Austro-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, Qajar Iran, & Anti-Colonial movements (Anti-French/British). Russia dropped out from the British 'Great Alliance' and became the USSR like IRL which decades later claimed Afghanistan, Northern Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Ethiopia, Oman, and North Korea under its sphere (with rival PRC claiming Laos and Cambodia) at the loss of North Vietnam so in this universe, the Communist bloc is much more powerful and the Cold War more frightening. Japan and Thailand broke their alliance with Borgovia and sided with the Axis, later invading China & Vietnam which is bound to happen since Borgovia made a pact with two countries that'll kill each other if a pin dropped, the Great Depression made Borgovian capitalism unable to hold that glue between China and Japan.
Alt of Soleos. Was once a ruthless capitalist Corporate State in South America, but has since reformed into a Social Democratic, Federal, Parliamentary Republic whose politics is 90% of my irl views. Stay tuned for some world building info, I suppose. We used to be a Machiavellian, Corporate Republic until the 1950s. We're Spanish-Italian influenced.

The world in this nation is changing for the better, current year is 2042.

Call us "Borgovia".

User avatar
East Mereth
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Sep 04, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby East Mereth » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:51 am

That's somewhat challenging. Without the sudden and obvious merit that a humiliated Qing China and its monopoly on Tea would bring, the UK would not be as powerful an economic power as it was OTL, a Franco-Borgevian alliance that hinders Britain's attempts to trigger China into starting a war, one has to wonder how Germany hasn't become the major naval and trade power as it should have become (I mean, as much as Borgevia would like to claim otherwise, South America just isn't capable of industrializing to the point required to challenge -much less match- anyone in Europe.


The Snow-Throat has consistently been the highest mountain in Tamriel for four eras. The reason it was not considered to be so until the fourth era was the single fact that the Empire of Cyrodiil and the Altmer were not willing to trust Nordic mythology for fact, and thus did not accept the theory that the Snow-Throat's peak was not, in fact, in Mundus. Despite their claim to the contrary however, this claim is in fact true. The Peak of the Snow-throat -where dwells Paarthurnax- is in fact only "half in Mundus". Where the other half is located is not exactly certain, but it is commonly theorized that one can actually view Sovngarde from the Snow-throat, something that should not in fact be possible as Sovngarde exists in its own Aetherian pocket dimension.
Kingdom of East Mereth || Kongerike Østmereþu
Carved out of the Province of Skyrim in a compromise after a bloody Civil War, East Mereth marks the beginning of a new era of Nordic sovereignty.
4E 203 Sun's Dawn 13
The Rift's Harald: The Companions attend Feast of the Dead in Windhelm, recite the name of the Five Hundred Companions. | Dawnguard "rebukes" offer to train Rift guardsmen to fight against Vampires, threatened to expulsion by Jarl Laila's court.

User avatar
Pax Mundi
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 2
Founded: Aug 08, 2019
New York Times Democracy

Postby Pax Mundi » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:04 am

Huh, interesting. Personally, I prefer the Throat of the World as its name. But I haven’t considered the idea the peak might only be half in Mundus, so that’s pretty cool.
Earth is officially known as Terra. Terra is a federal polity, and consists of hundreds of states, such as Bavaria, Nova Anglia, Hibernia, Korea, Sina (Han China), Italia, Iberia, Karelia and many more. Each state is roughly the same in size.
Last edited by Pax Mundi on Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:06 am, edited 2 times in total.
The Union of Terran States | "Pax Mundi"
Overview | Leadership | Parties | Relations | News

Post-Apocalyptic PMT/FT federal world-state, currently repopulating and colonising an overgrown, rewilded Earth.

User avatar
East Mereth
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Sep 04, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby East Mereth » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:17 am

Pax Mundi wrote:Huh, interesting. Personally, I prefer the Throat of the World as its name. But I haven’t considered the idea the peak might only be half in Mundus, so that’s pretty cool.
Earth is officially known as Terra. Terra is a federal polity, and consists of hundreds of states, such as Bavaria, Nova Anglia, Hibernia, Korea, Sina (Han China), Italia, Iberia, Karelia and many more. Each state is roughly the same in size.

It's actually Meta-Canon. It's a Kirkbride revelation from before ES: Skyrim was even a thing, and I decided to go along with it. This iteration of Skyrim includes a lot of "retcons" (more accurately, re-retcons ignoring Skyrim's dumbing down of Nordic culture and the Mundus in general) /skip
Kingdom of East Mereth || Kongerike Østmereþu
Carved out of the Province of Skyrim in a compromise after a bloody Civil War, East Mereth marks the beginning of a new era of Nordic sovereignty.
4E 203 Sun's Dawn 13
The Rift's Harald: The Companions attend Feast of the Dead in Windhelm, recite the name of the Five Hundred Companions. | Dawnguard "rebukes" offer to train Rift guardsmen to fight against Vampires, threatened to expulsion by Jarl Laila's court.

User avatar
Silver Commonwealth
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1216
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:38 am

Opinion:Huh, using the Roman name? Interesting, indeed, along with other names you have put there. And, that's an interesting approach - instead of the usual ''equal population'' maps you see, states are roughly equal in amount of land.




Ministry of Education


Fact time!


''(SC's space expansion AU, a.k.a. the most unlikely scenario. Non-canon, of course! ''Current'' year would be 6030) Ever since SC set its first steps in space colonization by building the first settlements on Earth's moon, there have existed two factions within CSA (Commonwealth's Space Agency), each with different approach towards space exploration- first branch wanted to spend more on things like space shuttles, and transporation technology, in order to push the limits of speed of a spaceship, and occupy more territories in a shorter amount of time, a.k.a focusing on space expansionism. The other branch, however, preferred to focus on the Solar System's colonization only, and albeit they would still send probes to places outside Solar System, they have no plans to colonize much there. Instead, they plan to ''perfect'' SC's home system, by terraforming planets, some of the larger moons, and even creating new planets. (The second branch has commonly called the Asteroid Belt a ''mistake made by Jupiter'', which should be fixed by putting all of the asteroid mass in Ceres - a dwarf planet, and the most massive object in the belt) Some even have presented future plans for Gas Giant terraforming and colonization, but for now, even Tom, and the most enthusiastic members of the branch aren't considering the idea seriously, as SC (Or Pax Solaris) hasn't terraformed any planet or moon yet, despite the efforts towards that on Mars, or Luna. At first, Tom favored the second wing's ideas more, as the idea of ''making all of planets and moons in Solar System a home of humanity, and part of SC'' sounded appealing for him, and he also wanted to possibly extract some of the resources in process, in order to feed the growing size of SC. However, when it became clear, that an action like terraforming Mars alone would take an obscene amount of resources, and about 100,000 years, which required cooperation spanning through generations, Tom started to like the idea less, as the ''explorationist'' wing proposed to build domes, and floating ships in atmosphere, instead of terraforming a whole planet - it would still take a lot of time, but it would be a lot faster in comparison, and would also take significantly less resources, which also means, that more of them could be diverted towards upgrading, and building a spaceship fleet (Also, terraforming the Solar System would mean remaining isolationist on a space scale, which would contrast with Tom's rabid anti-alien crusader doctrine). However, that also meant, that cities had to be hermetically sealed, in order to avoid vacuum floating in. In general, the architecture of an average extraterrestrial city looks similar to a research station, and has an one distinct feature from Earth's cities - no city has a naval port. (Due of SC's traditionalism, and taste for retro-futurism, dome cities gradually were upgraded, but their research station architecture could still be very well seen, as traditionalists said, that ''building in such style will remind us of our pioneer past and traditions''.''

''While officially Supercomputer Tom still claims, that ''Terraforming the Solar System is Pax Solaris (Silver Commonwealth's) main goal'', in reality, Tom's colonization approach is more similar to the ''explorationist'' wing's proposal - CSA (Commonwealth's Space Agency) has been building the dome cities, and spaceship ports, and although the ground under the domed cities is somewhat green by now, along with ''sufficient enough'' amounts of oxygen, the rest of Mars remains a lifeless desert with little to no protection from the deadly Sun's radiation. Situation remains similar on Luna as well, and other planets/moons. Also, while terraforming is still a very far goal, Tom already prepared seriously for that - he asked Pax Solaris astronomers to calculate the latitude of Mars and Luna's surface, and afterwards, Tom didn't allow any major settlements in areas, which were estimated to be underwater after terraforming would be complete. Those areas (Future oceans, lakes, seas, rivers, etc) are administrated as federal lands by the local planetary, or moon governments. However, although major settlement is prohibited in the area, there are still a lot of resource extraction plants, as SC wants to get every resource available from the planet soils, and although at first the issue of housing wasn't big, there have been illegal settlements in the federal land following the population boom on Pax Solaris territories. Example on Mars - territories in white are a ''federal land'' of Martian State, where major settlement is prohibited. On Luna, the ''far side of moon'' is generally more cratered, and has a bigger latitude than the ''near side of moon'', which is generally more flat, and has less craters. It also means, that the ''near side of moon'' has a lot more ''federal land'' than far side of moon, as most of the ''federal land'' on far side would be lakes, but on the near side, there would perhaps be even some actual seas.''
Last edited by Silver Commonwealth on Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:14 pm, edited 4 times in total.
✥ The News ✥
- SNN
- Archive
✪ Leadership ✪
- President Tom
- Other Leaders
⚒ The World Syndicalist Republics of Silver Commonwealth ⚒
| ☐ Home ☐| * SC in HOI4 * | ★SC's Radio&Locations★ |❇ Constitution ❇|✧Military✧|
✝ Anthem ✝|
_[][][][][][][L'''][Σ][][~][][][]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

''Independent ethnostate as a concept is outdated, and belongs in the bygone era. World ethno-confederalism is the future, all under one roof.'' Excerpt from the Reformist wing's supporter speech in 1980s

SC doesn't represent my views, simple as that

I can't be a weeaboo. Why? Because I am too anti-monarchist for that.

Youtube recommended me ''Russian Doomer Music'' a few weeks ago, and now synthpop's in my playlist, lol

OOC

User avatar
East Mereth
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Sep 04, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby East Mereth » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:10 pm

So basically instead of terrafoming a planet and living in them like sane individuals, you guys build totally blocked domed research stations? Wouldn't colonizing the Asteroid Belt make more sense than building research station-cities on Mars and the Moon?


While the Stormcloak Rebellion originally started as a conflict between Ulfric and the more traditionalist, isolationist Nords protesting the Empire's strict adherence to the Heretical Religion Clause of the White-Gold Concordat, it quickly escalated into a larger conflict between traditional Nords from the Old Holds who wished to return to the Nordic Culture before the Mede Empire when Nords worshiped the Old Gods, followed Nordic Tradition, and acted like Nords and the New Holds, more cosmopolitan and pro-Imperial who wished to abandon their Nordic Culture for the new infusion of the Colovian and Nedic culture that Skyrim as a whole had mostly adopted throughout the Fourth Era. As the war escalated, it would increasingly become common for a Nord to be discriminated, even persecuted, for making exclamations regarding the Old Gods (using "Kyne" instead of Kynareth, for example, nearly had a beggar executed in the Reach in 4E 202) while those using the Imperial version of the Nordic Gods were often met with distruct in the Eastern Skyrim. Similarly, the Westerners adopted the Imperial Mixed Unit tactic, adopting battlemagi, rangers, and soldiers as their primary unit (especially as the Legions' recruiting pools started to deplete and native recruitment became necessary) while the Easterners essentially sent waves after waves of barbarians into combat, backed only by 3-4 Tongues who could easily incapacitate the enemy's mage support. When the Civil War ended and the nine holds came to hold their moot, there was nearly nothing in common between the Old Holds and the New; and Whiterun -with its weird interpretation of the two warring cultures- was stuck right in the middle.
Kingdom of East Mereth || Kongerike Østmereþu
Carved out of the Province of Skyrim in a compromise after a bloody Civil War, East Mereth marks the beginning of a new era of Nordic sovereignty.
4E 203 Sun's Dawn 13
The Rift's Harald: The Companions attend Feast of the Dead in Windhelm, recite the name of the Five Hundred Companions. | Dawnguard "rebukes" offer to train Rift guardsmen to fight against Vampires, threatened to expulsion by Jarl Laila's court.

User avatar
Silver Commonwealth
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1216
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:22 pm

East Mereth wrote:So basically instead of terrafoming a planet and living in them like sane individuals, you guys build totally blocked domed research stations? Wouldn't colonizing the Asteroid Belt make more sense than building research station-cities on Mars and the Moon?


While the Stormcloak Rebellion originally started as a conflict between Ulfric and the more traditionalist, isolationist Nords protesting the Empire's strict adherence to the Heretical Religion Clause of the White-Gold Concordat, it quickly escalated into a larger conflict between traditional Nords from the Old Holds who wished to return to the Nordic Culture before the Mede Empire when Nords worshiped the Old Gods, followed Nordic Tradition, and acted like Nords and the New Holds, more cosmopolitan and pro-Imperial who wished to abandon their Nordic Culture for the new infusion of the Colovian and Nedic culture that Skyrim as a whole had mostly adopted throughout the Fourth Era. As the war escalated, it would increasingly become common for a Nord to be discriminated, even persecuted, for making exclamations regarding the Old Gods (using "Kyne" instead of Kynareth, for example, nearly had a beggar executed in the Reach in 4E 202) while those using the Imperial version of the Nordic Gods were often met with distruct in the Eastern Skyrim. Similarly, the Westerners adopted the Imperial Mixed Unit tactic, adopting battlemagi, rangers, and soldiers as their primary unit (especially as the Legions' recruiting pools started to deplete and native recruitment became necessary) while the Easterners essentially sent waves after waves of barbarians into combat, backed only by 3-4 Tongues who could easily incapacitate the enemy's mage support. When the Civil War ended and the nine holds came to hold their moot, there was nearly nothing in common between the Old Holds and the New; and Whiterun -with its weird interpretation of the two warring cultures- was stuck right in the middle.

I mean, terraforming realistically would take an immense amount of resources and time, as it is not a task which would take like only a few thousand years, but way, waaay longer. So, building dome cities might turn out to be cheaper in the long run, than to terraform the entire planet. (Of course, technology would probably advance with time, but it would still remain a long process nonetheless.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kv2QEHIrzA
/skip
✥ The News ✥
- SNN
- Archive
✪ Leadership ✪
- President Tom
- Other Leaders
⚒ The World Syndicalist Republics of Silver Commonwealth ⚒
| ☐ Home ☐| * SC in HOI4 * | ★SC's Radio&Locations★ |❇ Constitution ❇|✧Military✧|
✝ Anthem ✝|
_[][][][][][][L'''][Σ][][~][][][]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

''Independent ethnostate as a concept is outdated, and belongs in the bygone era. World ethno-confederalism is the future, all under one roof.'' Excerpt from the Reformist wing's supporter speech in 1980s

SC doesn't represent my views, simple as that

I can't be a weeaboo. Why? Because I am too anti-monarchist for that.

Youtube recommended me ''Russian Doomer Music'' a few weeks ago, and now synthpop's in my playlist, lol

OOC

User avatar
Karamiko
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 444
Founded: Mar 17, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Karamiko » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:53 pm

East Mereth wrote:So basically instead of terrafoming a planet and living in them like sane individuals, you guys build totally blocked domed research stations? Wouldn't colonizing the Asteroid Belt make more sense than building research station-cities on Mars and the Moon?


While the Stormcloak Rebellion originally started as a conflict between Ulfric and the more traditionalist, isolationist Nords protesting the Empire's strict adherence to the Heretical Religion Clause of the White-Gold Concordat, it quickly escalated into a larger conflict between traditional Nords from the Old Holds who wished to return to the Nordic Culture before the Mede Empire when Nords worshiped the Old Gods, followed Nordic Tradition, and acted like Nords and the New Holds, more cosmopolitan and pro-Imperial who wished to abandon their Nordic Culture for the new infusion of the Colovian and Nedic culture that Skyrim as a whole had mostly adopted throughout the Fourth Era. As the war escalated, it would increasingly become common for a Nord to be discriminated, even persecuted, for making exclamations regarding the Old Gods (using "Kyne" instead of Kynareth, for example, nearly had a beggar executed in the Reach in 4E 202) while those using the Imperial version of the Nordic Gods were often met with distruct in the Eastern Skyrim. Similarly, the Westerners adopted the Imperial Mixed Unit tactic, adopting battlemagi, rangers, and soldiers as their primary unit (especially as the Legions' recruiting pools started to deplete and native recruitment became necessary) while the Easterners essentially sent waves after waves of barbarians into combat, backed only by 3-4 Tongues who could easily incapacitate the enemy's mage support. When the Civil War ended and the nine holds came to hold their moot, there was nearly nothing in common between the Old Holds and the New; and Whiterun -with its weird interpretation of the two warring cultures- was stuck right in the middle.

Very interesting. I don't know much about Elder Scrolls, but I do know that "Mereth" is the Elven name for Skyrim. Is YN ruled by elves, or is the name just a result of some odd coincidence?

The basic premise of Antarctica's economy is that, ideally, it should run on incentives. Specifically, Antarctic laws are designed to provide incentives as best they can for people directing their full efforts towards constructive purposes. This is considered by our populace to be the best way to run an economy, because it provides maximum economic efficiency without any destructive side effects. In practice, the incentives do work well most of the time, and only rarely is the government forced to patch up the system by banning things. As a result, the Antarctic economy is unusually strong for a developed country; it usually grows by over four percent each year.
Karamiko - the land of lush pine forests, adorable king penguins, cultural diversity, humanistic religion, friendliness, kindness, baseball, unisex fashion, kalanta, and more!
IC name is Antarctica ~ The year is 3019 ~ NS Stats are not used!

User avatar
Galaxy Land
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 64
Founded: Mar 30, 2018
Father Knows Best State

Postby Galaxy Land » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:06 pm

Good..... good for you

Galaxy land police use https://images.app.goo.gl/iexBrmpph4jnUuAh7 this as their normal police cars.
Last edited by Galaxy Land on Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
While our flag might have a bow, we are peacemakers and violence will have consequences.

User avatar
Borgevia
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Dec 22, 2018
New York Times Democracy

Postby Borgevia » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:04 pm

That's pretty cool tbh, albeit it's a waste of taxpayer's money. For the police force, functionality > aesthetics (but my nation's personality would say the opposite).


Claudia Mauricio is Borgovia's most infamous cannibal. She's the great granddaughter of a former Corpus Board member who took part in the "Liberal coup" that forced Borgovia to dismantle the Kleptocratic Corpus Board in exchange for a Parliamentary Federal Democracy. Hailing from a family that historically controlled Borgovia's inland railroad projects, she came from extreme wealth and that made the scandal much worse.

She was studying Business with a focus on Supply Chain Management at Uppsala University in Sweden in 2024, age 23. Because of her Italian-Albanian-Chinese-Persian heritage, she has a very "Exotic" look to her: olive skin with straight medium-dark brown hair and emerald green eyes. She has a 'sass' to her and because women enjoyed equal treatment in the dating world as men (both good and bad), she make the first move most of the time when in Sweden which is one of her first culture shock since Borgovians think both sexes should make the first move if possible. What makes her infamous though is how she thinks she has a 'Preying Mantis soul' inside of her, and is why she normally murder and consume the men she sleeps with.

In total, she killed about 9 men in the span of a year, 7 of them Swedish, 1 a Chinese exchange student, and another an American exchange student. A friend of hers was visiting one day to help her study for an exam but didn't get a reply DM so said friend came over just to make sure Claudia is okay. No one answered the door even though her Line says she's online, not even a 'Read'. The friend, who still wished to be anonymous 20 years later, came into the flat out of concern for a friend knowing full well they're invading Claudia's privacy but out of sheer concern, did so anyway. What they discovered was a god awful smell in the kitchen and that's where they discovered rotten flesh of what looked like male humans with a spice grinder that appeared to be mixing up bones and other spices. Flies and dried blood are also found in the nearby restroom with some recent bodies on there. The friend ran out and quickly informed Uppsala police of the discovery. Claudia was at a doctor's office at the time where she's getting checked for severe stomach pain before police came into the office to arrest Claudia.

Claudia was later charged on counts of kidnapping, rape, and murder as she admitted 4 of the guys she killed originally didn't want her but she got them enough drinks to hurt their inhibition. During trial, she mentioned something along the lines of being born with a curse of a 'Preying Mantis Spirit' and she is only acting as 'A Female Mantis acts'. Borgovia refused to intervene on her parents' request stating this is something the governments of Sweden, China, and the USA have to handle since they are the ones with citizens murdered. She's sentenced to life imprisonment in Sweden though both China and the USA wanted to extradite her to their countries for their own punishments as the Chinese male was the son of a CPC and America is America. The Mauricio Family, 20 years on, are still condemning the Borgovian government for 'doing nothing' for their citizen while most Borgovians think it's the right thing to stay out of it since she killed Swedish, American, and Chinese civilians and thus her mercy should be on their hands.
Last edited by Borgevia on Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Alt of Soleos. Was once a ruthless capitalist Corporate State in South America, but has since reformed into a Social Democratic, Federal, Parliamentary Republic whose politics is 90% of my irl views. Stay tuned for some world building info, I suppose. We used to be a Machiavellian, Corporate Republic until the 1950s. We're Spanish-Italian influenced.

The world in this nation is changing for the better, current year is 2042.

Call us "Borgovia".

User avatar
A m e n r i a
Minister
 
Posts: 2902
Founded: Jun 08, 2017
Father Knows Best State

Postby A m e n r i a » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:55 pm

Ugly criminals are scary. Sexy ones are even scarier. Good job on that worldbuilding bit, you can pat yourself in the back for that one.

The creation of realistic statues of animals and people, with the exception of those used for religious purposes (Buddha statues, Guan Yu statues), are banned since the founding of the nation in 2045. This is because the government doesn't want to deal with the extra headache of rampaging statues in the apocalypse, should the empire last that long (spoiler alert: it would evolve in the 31st century). Existing statues are left alone though.
Last edited by A m e n r i a on Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
The Empire of Amenria (亚洲帝国)


Sinocentric Asian theocratic absolute monarchy. Yes, Tianshi and Cheonsa are the same person. It's literally the same word pronounced with a different language. Happy mid-autumn festival!


User avatar
UIS Leviathan
Attaché
 
Posts: 90
Founded: Nov 16, 2016
Father Knows Best State

Postby UIS Leviathan » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:05 pm

I’m sorry what? No, I’m actually not sorry that just doesn’t make sense, I’m the sane one.




On HNS Snark, food for the crew is usually made from fish that Snark manages to catch by trawling areas she detects schools of fish. The ship then guts and cleans the fish, uses the bones to make a broth, cooks the fish off the heat of her (highly radioactive) reactor, and serves the fish and broth.

It tastes like shit, but it is actually quite good for you.
UIS Leviathan - Dunking on FT empires since the first multiversal jump
Fleet Backstory / Fleet Overview < Check out New Alien Ship "Millennium"
I’m usually not a fan of themes, but here’s one for ya

User avatar
East Mereth
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Sep 04, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby East Mereth » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:54 pm

Karamiko wrote:Very interesting. I don't know much about Elder Scrolls, but I do know that "Mereth" is the Elven name for Skyrim. Is YN ruled by elves, or is the name just a result of some odd coincidence?
Mereth isn't the "Elven" name for Skyrim. Mereth was the original Nordic name for Skyrim because the Atmorans came to Skyrim and saw a bunch of Elves and decided "this is a place Elves live in". The same reason the original Nordic name for Morrowind was "Dunmereth"... you can get the idea)

UIS Leviathan wrote:On HNS Snark, food for the crew is usually made from fish that Snark manages to catch by trawling areas she detects schools of fish. The ship then guts and cleans the fish, uses the bones to make a broth, cooks the fish off the heat of her (highly radioactive) reactor, and serves the fish and broth.

It tastes like shit, but it is actually quite good for you.

Wait, does the ship do all that by itself or do the crew of the ship do the whole fishing, etc.?


When Ulfric was released from Imperial custody in 4E 196 and crowned as Jarl, one of the first things he did was to train Tongues. He took seven of his guard force (seven who weren't known for their prowess in fighting like a Nord) and tried to teach them everything he knew. Like you can expect, this did not go well. Four years later, at the start of the Civil War, six of those seven only knew how to read the words of power, and even then they had no understanding of them. The seventh -Wulfgar of Kynesgrove- however, had learned everything. Ulfric would have been jealous of the fact this upstart with no formal Greybeard training had learned stuff that had taken him years to accomplish, if he wasn't impressed. When a few months later, a dragon died in a battle with Wulfgar and didn't get up, and when a few hours later the Greybeards spoke for the first time in centuries, Ulfric understood everything.
Kingdom of East Mereth || Kongerike Østmereþu
Carved out of the Province of Skyrim in a compromise after a bloody Civil War, East Mereth marks the beginning of a new era of Nordic sovereignty.
4E 203 Sun's Dawn 13
The Rift's Harald: The Companions attend Feast of the Dead in Windhelm, recite the name of the Five Hundred Companions. | Dawnguard "rebukes" offer to train Rift guardsmen to fight against Vampires, threatened to expulsion by Jarl Laila's court.

User avatar
Karamiko
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 444
Founded: Mar 17, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Karamiko » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:03 pm

Oh, never mind then! Like I said, I don't know much about that. :p

Regarding your fact: Good on Wulfgar! There's always some people who are just ridiculously talented, and that's a really cool thing to witness. It's even better that he used his talents for the greater good! You can never have too many translators. :D



In Karamiko, the most popular drink (besides water) is tea. It can be plain, or come in a variety of fruity or minty flavors. There's even sparkling tea for special occasions!
Last edited by Karamiko on Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Karamiko - the land of lush pine forests, adorable king penguins, cultural diversity, humanistic religion, friendliness, kindness, baseball, unisex fashion, kalanta, and more!
IC name is Antarctica ~ The year is 3019 ~ NS Stats are not used!

User avatar
Camel Empire
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Oct 21, 2017
Father Knows Best State

Postby Camel Empire » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:09 pm

Karamiko wrote:Oh, never mind then! Like I said, I don't know much about that. :p

Regarding your fact: Good on Wulfgar! There's always some people who are just ridiculously talented, and that's a really cool thing to witness. It's even better that he used his talents for the greater good! You can never have too many translators. :D



In Karamiko, the most popular drink (besides water) is tea. It can be plain, or come in a variety of fruity or minty flavors. There's even sparkling tea for special occasions!

Oh, nice drinks.

In the Ottoman/Camel Empire, the Apple/Bandi/CamelTech Pippin surprisingly SUCCEEDED because it was declared "Halal" by the Sultan. Maybe that's why it did so poorly in America and Japan, but the Camel Empire is up to the CamelTech Pippin 2013. Now, there are rumors about the CamelTech Pippin 2020. If you want to know the other reasons why it succeeded in the Camel Empire, be my guest.

User avatar
UIS Leviathan
Attaché
 
Posts: 90
Founded: Nov 16, 2016
Father Knows Best State

Postby UIS Leviathan » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:46 pm

East Mereth wrote:
Karamiko wrote:Very interesting. I don't know much about Elder Scrolls, but I do know that "Mereth" is the Elven name for Skyrim. Is YN ruled by elves, or is the name just a result of some odd coincidence?
Mereth isn't the "Elven" name for Skyrim. Mereth was the original Nordic name for Skyrim because the Atmorans came to Skyrim and saw a bunch of Elves and decided "this is a place Elves live in". The same reason the original Nordic name for Morrowind was "Dunmereth"... you can get the idea)

UIS Leviathan wrote:On HNS Snark, food for the crew is usually made from fish that Snark manages to catch by trawling areas she detects schools of fish. The ship then guts and cleans the fish, uses the bones to make a broth, cooks the fish off the heat of her (highly radioactive) reactor, and serves the fish and broth.

It tastes like shit, but it is actually quite good for you.

Wait, does the ship do all that by itself or do the crew of the ship do the whole fishing, etc.?

Yes, the ship is a living creature.
/skip
UIS Leviathan - Dunking on FT empires since the first multiversal jump
Fleet Backstory / Fleet Overview < Check out New Alien Ship "Millennium"
I’m usually not a fan of themes, but here’s one for ya

User avatar
The Great-German Empire
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 488
Founded: Nov 25, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby The Great-German Empire » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:53 pm

So what actually is the Pippin? Is it a device or something? Either way, seems like CamelTech is going to be a national-level supplier at this rate, but without much international expansion.



One of the side effects of the cultural regionalism and political decentralism that prevails in the Empire is that the nationwide parties can be vastly different in their appeal to their regional divisions/affiliates. Thus, while nationwide Braunschweig (The south of Hanover-Braunschweig, the state) is a “Reliable SPD hold”, with most of their constituencies and a lot of their list votes going for that party, internally that region is far more competitive.
IC Name: Empire of Germany
Just your friendly neighborhood Weltmacht. Und Doch Gang | NS Stats are not used. Q&A if you need it!
Pro/Anti, 8Values and other tests: Here
Unapologetic libertarian populist monarchism

Vossische Zeitung: Corvettes on track to outsell 911s on German soil, market and development panic ensues | Gossip media obsessed over bizarre German-Japanese royal house friendships | Radical environmentalism a new pillar of hard-left politics all over the world

User avatar
Silver Commonwealth
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1216
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:25 am

Opinion: Well, yeah - internal politics are often more complicated than from the first glance. I imagine, that the region is probably not as solid stronghold of SPD as it might seem at first.




Ministry of Education


Fact time!


''(SC's space expansion AU, a.k.a. the most unlikely scenario. Non canon, of course! ''Current'' year would be 6030) Although Luna was traditionally the most loyal colony of Silver Commonwealth (Or Pax Solaris in the future), even it was hit by the wave of nationalism, which arose out of living under the yoke of Tom, and many of the planets were gearing up for independence wars. On Earth's moon Luna, there also was a strong movement, which advocated for more autonomy from Earth, and it was particularly popular within the lower classes, as they thought of it as a possible gateway for change. However, for a long time, the movement remained in opposition, as most of the Luna's ruling elites supported the Earthling loyalist government, and only the Party's members could vote in elections, which meant, that loyalist government was able to keep its power for a long time, despite being unpopular between most of the populace. However, eventually the loyalists lost in Party's Elections as well, due of leadership, and generational change, and influx of new politicians. Now the Independent Lunar Bloc was finally in charge. However, troubles hadn't ended yet, as there were two branches of the Lunar Bloc - Radicals, which favored a complete independence from Earth, and moderates, which
were content with autonomy under a dominion system. [1] Both groups formed militias, which eventually became even better organized, and although confrontations between the two groups were more like heated debates at first, eventually they spilled over in physical violence not only in major cities, but even in rural communities. With tension brewing for over a year, the culmination of the conflict of two branches was so called Battle of Araki [2], where militias clashed in the streets, built barricades, and soldiers from both sides tried to seize the parliament building violently, but only one of the sides would end up victorious... a lot of civilians were involved in the crossfire between the two sides as well, and several were killed in the chaos. In the end, however, moderate branch was victorious, and as various of the radical branch leaders were killed in the Battle of Araki, radicals lost a lot of their political power.''


''However, the loyalist troops tried to use the chaos in capital, and in one last desperate attempt, they attempted to seize power, and in case of their victory, moon would still probably be under direct rule from Earth for a some time [3]. That said, when Independent Lunar Bloc found out about loyalist divisions marching to capital, both radicals and moderates decided to put asides their differences, and fight off the loyalists. Loyalists also tried to seize various military bases, and space shuttle ports on Luna's surface, but for the most part, those attempts were futile. After a few days of intense fighting, moderate branch leader officially announced on a radio, that ''loyalist coup has officially failed''. The ring leader of the coup attempt tried to escape in a space shuttle to Earth, while being disguised as an Earthling tourist [4], but he was captured by Lunar Republican Army's soldiers, and was executed, along with most of the other coup leaders. However, it was the last time when radicals and moderates fought side by side, as moderates started to purge the radicals from the Independent Bloc soon after. For the rest of the Revolutionary Period (The wave of revolutions against Tom's loyalists), Luna remained a highly autonomous entity of Earth, and unlike many other planets and moons, Luna wasn't embargoed by Earth, and soldiers from Earth weren't kicked out [5]. Also, while it was not a valley of peace either, it fared better than some other planets like Mars, which were devastated after the independence wars. Currently, there is not a high demand of a complete independence from Earth, as most of citizens are content with status as a dominion. In fact, many of Luna's politicians believe, that ''If radicals had won, Earth would most likely go to war with Luna at one point''. However, the status of freedom of democracy remains just as bleak as it was before - due of living in a Solar System, which had been shaped by totalitarianism for millennias [6], many of the Pax Solaris citizens can't even grasp the concept of ''democracy'', and even those, who are highly educated, usually have a hybrid regime in mind at most.''




[1] Pro-independence movements within Pax-Solaris rarely consisted from a single group, or were ideologically stable - in fact, anarchists once were a part of Spartakist Movement on Martian State, but as Spartakists started to purge other factions from their government during the Martian War for Independence, Anarchists broke off from them. Another example is the rebellion of Triton (A moon of Neptune), which was a fragile coalition of space merchant unions, and loyalists of the Despot (President-Governor) of Triton. After Triton had gained its independence, space merchants overthrew the Despot of Triton, and established a Council of Shadows, which despite its name operated very openly. However, this didn't bring democracy to Triton - not even close.

[2] Araki is the capital, and largest city of Luna, and also one of the first settlements built by SC's cosmonauts outside from Earth. Tom named it after one of the Japanese WWII generals - Sadao Araki, due of SC's tendencies to name its extraterrestrial settlements after historical persons, mostly from 30s, or 50s (For example, one of the largest Martian State's cities is named as Kai-Shek Town), and the fact, that the founders of city were the cosmonauts from Commonwealth of Ring of Fire (Japan, Korea, eastern Manchuria, and parts of Eastern Siberia). In fact, a lot of cultural differences on planets and moons are because of the nationalities of the first colonizers - for example, Martian State's cultures are mostly a mix of various European cultures.

[3] ''Tom's loyalists'' are a catch-all term for governments, and political organizations, which preferred the old system of Pax Solaris. While most of them were against planetary independence, and conservative, some of the loyalists still wanted to lessen Tom's power over their homes, but they just didn't want to break off completely, for various reasons. For those reasons, they often found more common ground with Luna's moderate Independence Bloc supporters, than the Lunar Tom's loyalists, as compromise was nigh impossible with them. Moderate loyalists took power in dwarf planets like Ceres and Pluto, as they either benefited greatly from trade with Earth, and didn't want to lose it, or just were too small to survive on their own. Often the moderate loyalists are considered as ''true victors of the revolutions'', as radical loyalists often were wiped out by revolutionaries after the conflicts, and once Pax Solaris had stabilized itself, Tom was able to get most of the new planetary and moon republics back in his fold anyways, either through military, or economical warfare.

[4] During the Revolutionary Period, most of the governments of planets/moons denied entry to tourists from Earth, but those, who were there when the war broke out, usually had no safe way to get home, and either were conscripted by either side, or were killed by more radical revolutionaries, as the rule from Earth had made some of the locals resentful, or even violent against humans from Earth. However, on Luna there wasn't a large conflict with frontlines, but rather skirmishes between the groups in major cities, so the Earth's tourists could still visit the moon, just with a warning to ''reconsider the travel'' before. (On another note, some suspect, that some of Earth's military personnel, if not Tom himself, organized the loyalist coup attempt)

[5] During its colonization of the Solar System, Pax Solaris had set up hundreds, if not thousands of military bases across the entire Solar System, in order to better administrate the territory. The soldiers in those bases were usually from Earth, and fiercely loyal to Tom, which meant, that they were a threat to most of pro-independence movements (In fact, a lot of locals despised them even before the waves of revolutions). After the wars of independence, those bases usually were seized by new governments, and soldiers stationed there were usually wiped out to the last human. (For example, after Io got its independence, soldiers were forced out of their bases on the moon, along with the few dome cities, and were exiled to the outside, which mostly consisted from fields of sulfur, due of immense volcanic activity. Despite them having space suits, a lot of them died from either the heat, toxicity of sulfur, or were picked off by local snipers) So, in a lot of cases, those soldiers fought with Tom's loyalists, as they had no illusions about their fate afterwards.

[6] Due of extreme censorship, and continuous suppression of resistance, The Party managed to wither away most of the democratic opposition in this AU, and at one point, not even the most oldest people could remember something about democracy, or underground groups existing. Of course, there were always those, who had ideas different from SC's overall doctrine, but without an organized resistance, it meant, that those individuals were usually rounded up, and separated from society. Yeah, there were still revolutions, but often they were full-circle revolutions, and they more often were about disagreements between Party's members about some ideological viewpoint, not calls for democracy. There are rumors of a group known as ''Freedom Fighters'', which are described as ''liberal-democrats'' in SC's media, but if compared with our timeline, ''Freedom Fighters'' are still very autocratic, somewhat similar to Singapore's system.
Last edited by Silver Commonwealth on Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
✥ The News ✥
- SNN
- Archive
✪ Leadership ✪
- President Tom
- Other Leaders
⚒ The World Syndicalist Republics of Silver Commonwealth ⚒
| ☐ Home ☐| * SC in HOI4 * | ★SC's Radio&Locations★ |❇ Constitution ❇|✧Military✧|
✝ Anthem ✝|
_[][][][][][][L'''][Σ][][~][][][]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

''Independent ethnostate as a concept is outdated, and belongs in the bygone era. World ethno-confederalism is the future, all under one roof.'' Excerpt from the Reformist wing's supporter speech in 1980s

SC doesn't represent my views, simple as that

I can't be a weeaboo. Why? Because I am too anti-monarchist for that.

Youtube recommended me ''Russian Doomer Music'' a few weeks ago, and now synthpop's in my playlist, lol

OOC

User avatar
Valentine Z
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5521
Founded: Nov 08, 2015
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Valentine Z » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:56 am

Oh my goodness gracious on a pogo stick, this is too damn long! Give me a moment...

So... from what I can tell and understand, it would seem that in this non-canonical world (is it?), SC would colonise other planets, but these came with internal problems and conflicts that... from what I can understand, went into a full-blown escalation and Martial Law, it seems. I mean, this is judging by how the soldiers clashed in the streets, along with the civilians being involved despite not wanting to. This is, what I like to call, a clusterfuck.

Man, I wonder what would happen to Valentians as well. Don't get me wrong, internal conflicts are bound to happen, but with Valentine Z expanding out to Mars, it would soon become a problem when the people on Mars (Martians, Valentians on Mars) would fight and become independent from Valentine Z. Only time will tell, but so far, Valentians are too nice for that, so... yay?

-----

Valentijn and Clarissa, like most husbands and wives, have a term of endearment for each other. :3 Other than the normal terms such as sweetheart, dearie, dear, etc... they have their own short names.

Valentijn would call Clarissa - Clarrie. And Clarissa would call Valentijn - Vallie, or Val, having no preference over the two.
NSSCRA 8: #7 - Clarissa Alanis Star || #15 - Jolyn Helen Ceeta || #31 - Gwen Tracer Allison || #63 - Marcus Alan Ariel Baptiste

Clarissa mistaken for Smurf/Avatar: 3
Valentijn misgendered: 33 ⅓

If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down !
Glory to De Geweldige Sierlijke Katachtige Utopia en Zijne Autonome Machten ov Valentine Z !
>>> >>> >>> Q & A Here! | Heights of NS! Add yours now! <<< <<< <<<
• About me.
• You thought I'm a She. Hah!
• Eat my freaking tranquility. - Zenyatta
• Never trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
• World Map is a cat playing with Australia.
NEWS: Valentine Z time-skipped to 2070. Colonised Mars, population at 9+ billion!

User avatar
East Mereth
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Sep 04, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby East Mereth » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:55 am

The only question I can think of is this: How weird do the others in your shared universe find it when Valentijn and Clarissa do this? (Does anyone go "ew romance" or anything like that?)


When the Stormcloaks attacked Whiterun, they did not bring any artillery with them. No trebuchets, no catapults. Even the mages weren't adept in using missile-class destruction or area-of-effect alteration spells. What they did bring was Wulfgar Stormblade, Dragon of the North. Ysmir Wulfgar spoke only three words, and the hill that Whiterun was built upon nearly fell apart -the entirety of Whiterun's defense artillery and the Legion's garrison on the city's walls annihilated within seconds, such was his voice that the Stormcloaks had to gag him just to make sure there would be a city remaining. When the Stormcloaks laid siege to Solitude seven months later, they did not gag him.
Last edited by East Mereth on Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:57 am, edited 2 times in total.
Kingdom of East Mereth || Kongerike Østmereþu
Carved out of the Province of Skyrim in a compromise after a bloody Civil War, East Mereth marks the beginning of a new era of Nordic sovereignty.
4E 203 Sun's Dawn 13
The Rift's Harald: The Companions attend Feast of the Dead in Windhelm, recite the name of the Five Hundred Companions. | Dawnguard "rebukes" offer to train Rift guardsmen to fight against Vampires, threatened to expulsion by Jarl Laila's court.

User avatar
Silver Commonwealth
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1216
Founded: Aug 16, 2018
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Silver Commonwealth » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:11 am

Opinion: Well, I assume, if you have a Nord man on your side, who's voice alone can destroy an entire garrison, you probably wouldn't need to use siege machines at all, as they would be way less effective. Also, interesting to see, how Stormcloaks held back the Nord for one city, but not for the another (Kind of reminds me of an one character from Uzbek fairy tales, which could also wipe out an entire garrison with three shouts, tbh).




Ministry of Education


Fact time!


''(SC's space expansion AU, a.k.a. the most unlikely scenario. Non-canon, of course! ''Current'' year would be 6030) Although SC would become a space entity at some point, and has moved on a lot in terms of new technology research, the staunch traditionalism, and nostalgia still run deep in the SC's society, including music as well - a lot of SC's people consider the 1930s, 1980s, and the mid 21st century as some sort of ''golden ages'', so a lot of the music from that period is still popular within SC, including vaporwave, and its variations. Overall, the musical taste changes very slowly, and even when it changes, there is usually a lot of space interval between the changes - for example, while metal was a part of the counter-culture, and had a hard time to become popular in SC at first, it eventually became one of the icons of SC's mid 21st century, when it also started to set its first steps in space (In fact, due of SC's societal structure, a lot of the former ''counter-culture'' genres eventually merge into SC's ''mainstream'' music) Of course, the songs which are considered ''nostalgic'' differ depending on the SC's region - for example, in most of SC's American states, Big Iron by Marty Robbins is generally considered as a ''classic piece'', which has remained popular even after thousands of years, while in Kalahari Territory the ''nostalgic'' piece would be Das Südwesterlied by Heino. When it comes to Supercomputer Tom's tastes, however, it gets pretty bad - Tom has said, that ''he stopped listening to music thousands of years ago'', as he had seen trends come and go, and ''in a lot of times, they were just variations of the same old pieces''. (As a Supercomputer, Tom is a pretty strange figure on its own - he has somehow been kept around for millennias, and although he has lost quite a few of his memories about the past during OS upgrades and processor updates, he still remembers a lot of his older comrades, including the current canonical leaders, like Cousineau, Kayden, Kirk, and Leal. During these years, however, he has said to ''have lost a lot of his sanity'', due of seeing his former partners come and being replaced by new partners, only for them to pass away after about 40-60 years as well, while he just sits and watches)''

''However, by 6030, most of the previously mentioned music is popular only in Earth, as although the colonists brought the music from Earth along with them during the colonization of moons/planets, it wasn't as actual there, due of the colonists practically building a new society, and future countries out of a scratch. So, the culture and music on the various planets and moons colonized by Pax Solaris evolved differently - often the dominant characteristics were techno vibes, or drums. So for a while, music was thriving exactly on Pax Solaris colonies in Solar System, not the homeworld of Earth, as many new styles were tried out by the cosmonauts and colonists, in order to find a musical theme, which would fit their land the best. However, over time, this new growth opportunity started to close, as music of the extraterrestrial colonies started to solidify, and at one point, system became similarly traditionalist as on Earth - although musical instruments had evolved (For example, guitars being retro-futuristic), some still used very old looking ones, and musical tastes changed slowly. However, the music of Luna (Earth's moon) generally has more of a solarpunk/cyberpunk vibe, along with a tone of idealism, as those were the ''good old days'' for the space conservatives, when there weren't any countries on the planets and moons yet. The older generations often claim, that ''back in the day, communities were small, and everyone knew each other in their small dome city, but nowadays cities have started to grow into concrete jungle just like they do on Earth, and that a lot of smaller dome towns get abandoned, due of little job opportunities there'' . (However, past isn't as rosy in SC, of course, as during space colonization era, there were still problems and issues, as some longed for their blue marble home - not everyone volunteered to be sent to the extraterrestrial colonies, as some were sent forcefully)''
Last edited by Silver Commonwealth on Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
✥ The News ✥
- SNN
- Archive
✪ Leadership ✪
- President Tom
- Other Leaders
⚒ The World Syndicalist Republics of Silver Commonwealth ⚒
| ☐ Home ☐| * SC in HOI4 * | ★SC's Radio&Locations★ |❇ Constitution ❇|✧Military✧|
✝ Anthem ✝|
_[][][][][][][L'''][Σ][][~][][][]_
̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_(▀_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)_▀)/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿

''Independent ethnostate as a concept is outdated, and belongs in the bygone era. World ethno-confederalism is the future, all under one roof.'' Excerpt from the Reformist wing's supporter speech in 1980s

SC doesn't represent my views, simple as that

I can't be a weeaboo. Why? Because I am too anti-monarchist for that.

Youtube recommended me ''Russian Doomer Music'' a few weeks ago, and now synthpop's in my playlist, lol

OOC

User avatar
East Mereth
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Sep 04, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby East Mereth » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:12 am

Silver Commonwealth wrote:
Opinion: Well, I assume, if you have a dragon on your side, who's voice alone can destroy an entire garrison, you probably wouldn't need to use siege machines at all, as they would be way less effective. Also, interesting to see, how Stormcloaks held back the dragon for one city, but not for the another.
Ysmir Wulfgar is not a dragon, he's a Nord. "Dragon of the North" is just his title. He's the Dragonborn (also the earthly manifestation of the Nordic God Ysmir, but that's irrelevant) /skip
Kingdom of East Mereth || Kongerike Østmereþu
Carved out of the Province of Skyrim in a compromise after a bloody Civil War, East Mereth marks the beginning of a new era of Nordic sovereignty.
4E 203 Sun's Dawn 13
The Rift's Harald: The Companions attend Feast of the Dead in Windhelm, recite the name of the Five Hundred Companions. | Dawnguard "rebukes" offer to train Rift guardsmen to fight against Vampires, threatened to expulsion by Jarl Laila's court.

User avatar
Uvoan
Attaché
 
Posts: 67
Founded: Apr 19, 2017
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Uvoan » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:36 pm

Honestly- Most of that's pretty neat, but what got to me is the image of Tom, just watching all those whom he remembers, and has enjoyed time with... Wasting away, as he remains eternal... Damn, what a horrible fate.




The UGR's primary rail-corridor, stretching between New Asan and Gerat, is about 760 kilometers of continous, six track mainline, known as the Racetrack. Working from New Asan down, it services New Asan, Voroan, Atlana, and Gerat. An off-branch, the so-called 'Pit-Stop', runs up to Gorale and Gleigh Fa'rkey', and spans about 75 kilometers. Both rail-lines are rated for over 550 KP/H (341 MPH) of maximum speed, in a line across Uvoan. When aboard a train, thundering between these cities, journey times can be as little as 2 hours- With four, 10 minute stops. This thunderous speed

The entire rail-line is heavily electrified. The line is rated for continuously rated for 525 KP/H (326 MPH), meaning that directly, a trip of 750 Kilometers should take only 1.4 hours- An incredible time spent at line-speed, and incredible at getting passengers and freight from destination to destination. The fastest noted line-speed was 608.91 KP/H- 378.39 MP/H, with a specially modified 'Locomotive, Electric, Express', named after the famous Mallard. This run, happening on December 8th, 1983, broke essentially every record on the books. The train was thundering down the rail-lines at half the speed of sound, and proved the so-called 'Brazen Scheme', which is designed to allow trains to run regularly up to 575 KP/H.

The average weight of a freight-train is 24,000 tons. The average running speed is 500 KP/H (310 KP/H). The average car is a monstrous, 12 axle monster, capable of moving up to 240 tons of freight- 100 Cars worth of heavy freight. For passenger trains, it's far more simpler, with 20 car train sets, with each car being a double-deck which seats 120 a car. These trains can move at speeds of 525 KP/H- For a total of 760 kilometers, in just under 2 hours.

It is estimated that every day, 720,000‬ passenger trains depart from a city along the line.‬ It is estimated that 7,200 freight trains leave from a station each day as well- in total, about 172,800,000 tons of freight will be moved per day. It is also estimated that about 864,000,000‬ people will travel through the Uvoanian Race-Track, per day. Many of these are commuters, of course, darting between their homes and places of work in other cities. An estimate 82% of this total are the commuters. The remaining 18% are non-commuters, and 'unique' travelers. It is estimated that, from passenger traffic alone, with tickets being priced at 1 Gella Per Kilometer, a total of 864,000,000‬ people traveling the full 760 kilometer main-line, twice per day, will generate a revenue of 262,656,000,000 Gellas, per day. Freight is moved at 10 gellas per ton, per kilometer. Using the same assumption, that is nearly 1,313,280,000,000‬ Gellas total, per day. In a single day, this single stretch of can earn nearly ‭787,968,000,000‬ USD, or ‭1,575,936,000,000‬ Gella.

It is estimate that in the previous fiscal year, 1983, over 575,216,640,000,000‬ gella was brought in. Estimates for the year 1984, due to an economic boom, estimate that as much as twice that number will flow into the UGR's, and governments, coffers.
Credit to Arkeyana for 'Schizotech'
"To my right was Europe, to my Left the Americas, and in front of me lay an uncertain future. To the rear was an era of slavery, and Monarchs. There was a chasm, which I bridged with two simple words-'Volan Tzaese.' This Rebellion." - Zkto' Zovban, 1922

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Forum 7

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Byzantiumum, Cybus1, Google [Bot], Sakkwato, Silver Commonwealth, The Black Legion of Warmaster Abaddon, The Srovsk State, Union of Worlds

Advertisement

Remove ads