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Borgevia
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Postby Borgevia » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:45 pm

Even if its leisure-oriented, any innovation and economy not based on slave labor and raw/unfinished goods material exports is an excellent indicator of progress.


Even though Borgovia and its closest ally, Brazil (to the point people considers Brazil to be Borgovia's attack dog despite both nations never having conflict) stepped out of the Cold War faction and aligned mostly with the United States, the Soviet Union feared Borgovia more than the United States. Borgovia didn't create its own third faction purely because it aligns more with the USA than against it, and by being the 'Third Superpower', it would give the USSR the shot it needs to divide and conquer the Capitalist West.

Stalin feared Borgovia because they're the only country to not only have political dominance over its continent, the whole continent is very pro-Borgovian. No country in Europe or Asia can achieve that feat, not even the United States in its own sphere. Oftentimes, Borgovia does the dirty work for the USA and interrupt Central American, Cuban, Panamanian, and Mexican insurgency against the United States since most insurgency are Communist in nature, and Borgovia would want Communism to stay as far away from the New World as possible. And apparently, the entire continent of South America is on board. The reason why the whole continent is very pro-Borgovia is because the Corpus Board took a "Marshall Plan" initiative in the 1800s to "develop our sphere of influence so they are a self-correcting, self-regulating, reliable ally whose infrastructure, military, and industry are enough to sustain its own". In other words, it's cheaper to develop your poorer neighbors, train them, and make them at least capable of holding their own than to dominate them entirely.

Because of this initiative, Brazil, Suriname, Bolivia, Peru, etc range from Lower Middle (Belarus, $5600 GDP) to low-tier Upper income (Seychelles, $15,000 GDP) economies with a sizable, educated middle class and a French-modeled Parliamentary system (due to 'Special Relations' with France) kept the continent stable. A stable government with a sizable population to maintain an industrialized economy means high consumerism of Borgovian goods and services, its infrastructure allows efficient shipping between the continents, but Borgovian corporations oftentimes make up the bulk of employers in the country. In a way, it privately, not politically, dominated South America.

Still, only Borgovia is considered a high income economy as they only developed the continent enough to most efficiently support Borgovia's geopolitical power, but also allows the countries itself to be powerful enough to make hostile outsiders weary of angering South America. The development of the continent and the prosperity it brought made South America very Pro-Borgovia, so even if the USSR was to agitate Borgovia somewhat, you're looking at decently sized economies to economic powerhouses with similarly adjusted military power backing up Borgovia. This is why the United States agreed to dismantle the Panama Treaty and merge both North & South America into the Organization of American States which works very closely with NATO, so basically one alliance two branches. With Borgovian & Brazilian investments flooding Panama and up north, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Panama went through an 'Economic miracle' but Mexico & Panama unfortunately fell into the Middle Income Trap with Costa Rica being promoted to a high income economy.
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Las Palmeras
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Postby Las Palmeras » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:18 pm

An Alliance for Progress not made by Uncle Sam, I can see the appeal of that to South America. Also I see that México is being...México.


Contrary to popular belief that Palmeran police was unarmed before the 1980s, the Capitol City's police force had armed mobile van units (the Special Firearms Division) usually patrolling near "hot zones" ready to meet threats with military-grade firepower (compact submachine guns and assault rifles; the heavy stopping power was purportedly considered a priority because we neko are physically smaller than humans in general) as early as the 1960s; the "hottest zone" was the Adult Entertainment District. This aim was envisioned after the humiliating 1940s and 1950s when Las Palmeras was known as the "Cathouse of the Atlantic" and bordellos, buffets and casinos littered entire city areas...and murders of escorts was very high. Thus a highly militarized zone where selling sex wasn't illegal but buying it was served as a national containment zone. Also, these mobile police units and the police checks were mostly around to implicitly try to scare away foreign johns and keep local mob activity to a minimum.

As a result of the Munich Massacre and the general wave of global terrorism and hijackings of the 1970s and the 1980s Cocaine Wars, the Special Firearms Division's focus and training gradually shifted to become a counter-terrorist unit and the defense of escorts was handed over to the general police.
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Postby Uvoan » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:13 pm

Las Palmeras wrote:An Alliance for Progress not made by Uncle Sam, I can see the appeal of that to South America. Also I see that México is being...México.


Contrary to popular belief that Palmeran police was unarmed before the 1980s, the Capitol City's police force had armed mobile van units (the Special Firearms Division) usually patrolling near "hot zones" ready to meet threats with military-grade firepower (compact submachine guns and assault rifles; the heavy stopping power was purportedly considered a priority because we neko are physically smaller than humans in general) as early as the 1960s; the "hottest zone" was the Adult Entertainment District. This aim was envisioned after the humiliating 1940s and 1950s when Las Palmeras was known as the "Cathouse of the Atlantic" and bordellos, buffets and casinos littered entire city areas...and murders of escorts was very high. Thus a highly militarized zone where selling sex wasn't illegal but buying it was served as a national containment zone. Also, these mobile police units and the police checks were mostly around to implicitly try to scare away foreign johns and keep local mob activity to a minimum.

As a result of the Munich Massacre and the general wave of global terrorism and hijackings of the 1970s and the 1980s Cocaine Wars, the Special Firearms Division's focus and training gradually shifted to become a counter-terrorist unit and the defense of escorts was handed over to the general police.


Huh. I mean, it all makes sense, but I do wonder why such a society would keep such a zone- Even if it does make sense, in context... And then the change over- Yeah, that was a very rough era in history, particularly for peace-keepers.




The 'Ruler of the Seas', of the commissioned Standard-4 Class of Battleship, is the first, and only, example of a surviving 'Maximum Philosophy', mid-WWI ship, but pre Washington Naval Treaty 'battleship'. Designed in an era where big guns ruled the seas, the Standard-4 was a terrifying ship class for it's time. The first of this ship-class was laid down in 1917, following the lessons of Jutland. Weighing in at 45,000 tons, and making a speed of 25 knots, these monstrous battleships would have decimated their standing opponents.

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The first six ships were completed in 1919- The 'Ruler of the Seas', 'Atlantic', 'Pacific', 'Arctic', 'Caribbean', and the 'North Sea', were all a wake-up call to the world, and would rapidly lead to one of two options- A tonnage war, against an island which had already laid down 6 of the largest battleships in the world, or a naval treaty. The latter option was rapidly called to form, and the tonnage laws set in stone. Uvoan scrapped a further 16 which had been under construction, but were allowed to keep all six existing ships. There were kept in service, up until 1947- When most of them had been sunk, or scrapped.

All expect for one- The 'Rulers of the Seas', the lead ship, would survive. Having originally been planned to go to the scrappers torch, it is only the impassioned acts of her crew that saved her from this fate. Stealing her away in the middle of the night, they docked the ship at a private pier inside New Asan- Where they would blow scuttling charges, and settle the ship upon the bottom of the bay. The Naval League, in response to this- (And rumored to have been pressured by Zkto') Decided to refloat her, and make her into a museum ship. She was laid into her permanent berth, New Asan Pier 87, On July 2nd, 1948. This opening would coincide to the formation of the so called 'Museum Fleet', which would grow around Pier 87, encompassing ships of all types, eras, and significance. However, the 'Museum Fleets' pride would always be the 'Ruler of the Seas'.

In 1969, she was restored to steaming, in honor of 50 years since her commissioning, and with the last of the crew that had saved her, embark on a world tour. After finishing it, she was laid back to rest in Pier 87. In the year 1977, she would later go onto star in the film 'Thunderchild', about a fictional Uvoanian Standard-4 Battleship of the same name, involved in an alternate WWI, which was still raging in 1928. The film was a piece on how carriers and planes had made big guns, and big battleships, obsolete. And this was personified with the crew struggling against ever-increasing waves of aircraft, ships, with a rapidly decreasing escort.
The film ended with a shot that became iconic for the 'Ruler of the Seas'- Full steam into the setting sun, all AAA/Flak guns firing as the ship leaves the burning wreckage of a battle...
This movie would restore public interest the ship, and keep her, and the Museum Fleet, afloat off tourist revenue for the next decade. In her modern role, she does 'tourist cruises' every 3 months, which includes firing her guns 'in anger' at an uninhabited island. Tickets for this event can run as high as 1700 USD.

In short? The Ruler of the Seas, is certainly the Ruler of the Uvoanian Museum Fleet.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:18 am

That's actually that you put so much effort into preserving your historical ships. But are ticket prices so high? That's seems a bit unreasonable...

(In real life and NS version) In the late 1800s at the formation of federation, the smaller states by population were terrified that the larger states would scew election results, due to the sigificant differences in population. Thus the smaller states refused to join unless the power disparity was addreased. This is how we ended up with our current political system. Federation occured on 1 Jan 1901. Western Australia more or less only begrudgingly joined because they were promised a rail line from Sydney to Perth, and there have been moves for successionism since. However, as the states were indipendant British colonies (essentially functioning as indipendant countries) before federation, they all have different rail gauges, which sometimes causes problems (especially as neighbouring states don't share gauges), but there's a standard gauge line to every capital, meaning that the entire country is linked by standard gauge (the exception is of coarse, Hobart, as Tasmania is an island). (The NS country, not exactly sure about real life, but I think there is a similar intiative, but like I said, not exactly sure), the government is working on converting all siginficant rail lines to standard gauge. But with thousands of kilometres of track per gauge and hundreds of thousands of rail carriages (per gauge) with dozens of rail operators, it's a colessal task which could take decades
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Postby A m e n r i a » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:59 am

Decades? Cut up the excessive bureaucracy and it should be up in months!

Like heroes is other works of fiction, Heavenly Emperor Tianshi has evil counterparts in other universes. These universes exist outside of the multiverse Amenria is in, instead sitting on another multiverse at the other side of existence. These evil counterparts, dubbed "Dark Messiahs", come in various flavours - one is a misanthropic, cynical, cold, and greedy man in charge of a capitalistic dystopia of a planet, one shares similar views with the real Tianshi, except without the moral restraints and thus more extreme, one is a psycho who finds pain and suffering funny (both his and others'), one is a kleptomaniac who enjoys stealing superpowers. There will be one account for each, but so far, only Siliwangi Corporation is available.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:14 am

A m e n r i a wrote:Decades? Cut up the excessive bureaucracy and it should be up in months!

Do you have any idea how big Australia's land area is in comparison to her population? We're talking about 26 million people spread across an area the size of the contingous USA. How do you expect a grand total of 26 million people (including babies, disabled people and octogenerians) to replace an entire continent's worth of rail tracks in a few months, when there's an entire country to run? And that's before you consider all the rolling stock- new and old, owned by multiple competing rail operators
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Postby Exfaechionixeum » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:30 am

A m e n r i a wrote:Decades? Cut up the excessive bureaucracy and it should be up in months!

Like heroes is other works of fiction, Heavenly Emperor Tianshi has evil counterparts in other universes. These universes exist outside of the multiverse Amenria is in, instead sitting on another multiverse at the other side of existence. These evil counterparts, dubbed "Dark Messiahs", come in various flavours - one is a misanthropic, cynical, cold, and greedy man in charge of a capitalistic dystopia of a planet, one shares similar views with the real Tianshi, except without the moral restraints and thus more extreme, one is a psycho who finds pain and suffering funny (both his and others'), one is a kleptomaniac who enjoys stealing superpowers. There will be one account for each, but so far, only Siliwangi Corporation is available.

That is an interesting concept and belief, It actually makes me wonder how that belief has effected their culture and life.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:05 am

Post- supernova? How does that work? How long does storage last? Also, in a supernova, electrical supplies are the least of your problems
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In the NS country (not real life) citizens are required to learn a minimum of three languages-
-English
-An Aboriginal/Toress Strait Islander language
- A foreign language

English, because it is Australia, and the world's lingua franca, an Aboriginal/Toress Strait Islander language, in order to preserve the languages and culture and Aboriginal people, and a foreign language, due to the ever increasing prevalence of globalism.

This means that children who learn (English +) two Aboriginal/TS Islander languages but no foreign language, or (English +) two foreign languages and no Aboriginal/TS Islander language have not met the requirements.

It doesn't matter which Aboriginal/TS Islander language the children learn. It also doesn't matter which foreign language the student learns. The language selection is at the discretion of the individual school, parent or student. There was a proposal to ensure that the minimum requirement was for an East or South-East Asian language (due to both, Australia's proximity to Asia, and Asia's growing prominence on the world stage), but the proposal was very controversial (some, but not all of the opposition, was from the immigrant community, who wanted their children to learn their ansestorial languages, and thought that learning an Asian language too was a bit execissive) so the idea was ditched before it was ever adopted.

The proposal to teach students ATS languages was also met with controversy, as opponants argued that nobody will use these languages outside of school, neither at home nor overseas, and it's taking up too much time in the curriculum. The requirement was adopted anyway, but the concerns of oppinants were heeded, and adapted into the proposed curriculum. This was a federal government decision that all states and territories have agreed to. Whilst any state or territory could opt out, it's not likely that any would, as the benefits of this system are too great.

his refers to my NS version of Australia, not real life
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:29 am

On one hand, this means aboriginal languages will continue to survive a bit longer (I wonder how it'd go if aboriginals speaking their own language was actually encouraged, rather than just supported and tolerated) but on the other hand, Britain (and later Australia) are directly and completely responsible for the dying of these languages in the first place so if it was a kudos move, it wasn't well-thought-out.


Between the dissolution of Mittelafrika (17 Dec 1953) and the end of the Intervention in Congo (1992), the territories originally forming the province of Congo in the Free State of Mittelafrika was in a situation of literal chaos. Unlike every other province of the Free State, Congo had failed to form its own collective identity, and so when Mittelafrika was dissolved (and its components either legally recognized or directly annexed as a state of North Germany), Congo had no identity unifying the people. It didn't help that the original tribal boundaries had been so thoroughly messed with that the people two generations removed from the formation of Congo had no sense of belonging to their tribes. This resulted in a dissolution of Congo into a "Warlord phase" where mercenaries, disgraced military officers, adventurers, and charismatic individuals in Congo and outside of it began warring with each other for control. Congo was not brought into the spotlight until 1990, at which point an international coalition made of 7 nations officially invaded the region and after two grueling years of war brought stability in the realm. Due to this, the total population of the Congolese Federation, Ubangi-Shari, and Gabon is 11,895,000 (compare to OTL population of ‭103,631,228‬ of the four countries making the area of aforementioned nations)
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Postby Silver Commonwealth » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:56 am

Opinion: Hmm, those sound like very bloody decades. And, that is a drastic population drop in such case. However, I assume, that the thick jungle is still going to make the administration a chore, even after the international community's invasion, and creation of the Congolese Federation. It seems that in cases like Congo, it would either split apart into various smaller states, or unify in a single superstate - no inbetweens.




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''There are two main things, which back up the universal currency of the Commonwealth - Commonwealth's Dollar (Very similar to American dollar in value). Precious metals like gold, platinum, silver, and diamond are one of the main backers, along with having control of resources like oil, and gas. The second important backer is the trust in currency, as Silver Commonwealth is a world government (Albeit a very decentralized, and unstable one at that), which means, that at least on paper, you will be able to use Commonwealth's dollars everywhere in SC's world, even in the least developed regions. However, bringing one standard for an entire world is extremely difficult, so there are countless other, smaller currencies, which are pegged to the Commonwealth Dollar, which brings SC in a bit of a paradox - while many of its leaders officially praise regional autarky, in reality regions are tied between each other in a complex, fragile monetary web - if Commonwealth Dollar falls, the rest of currencies are going to fall down along with it as well, making economical crisis like The Great Depression look minuscule in comparison. Barter, and gift economy is theoretically a way around this, but few regions use it in official deals with other regions, and even then, it's not the primary means of deal - even if a lot of people in a region practice barter system, currency is still expected to be used, when interacting with outsiders.''

''Some of the regional currencies are used only in one region, or even one autonomy, which means, that it needs to be exchanged to Commonwealth Dollars, or the local currency, if a person leaves the region. However, there are also currencies, which encompass multiple regions, and while they are still essentially pegged to the Commonwealth Dollar, you can still use it in more regions than just one. Perhaps the most successful of regional currencies is European Credit - it can be used in all of European Federation's member regions alongside with Commonwealth's dollar, and other regional European currencies. Some have described the European Credit as ''Commonwealth Dollar, but just localized to Europe, instead of the whole world''. However, despite the name similarities with labor credit (Or labor voucher), European Credits can still circulate, and be transferred between people, which means, that they can also be transmuted into capital, and be exchanged for means of production. Also, when a purchase is made, European Credits aren't destroyed, unlike labor vouchers. It also means, that monetary theft is still possible with European Credit. So, asides from the name, European Credit shares little similarity to the Labor Vouchers, and is rather more similar to the traditional monetary currency. It also has an absence of coins, meaning, that an equivalent of one euro is the minimal possible value of credit, which means, that exchange rates, and prices are often rounded-up. Other Commonwealth's have tried a similar system, but so far, European Federation's system remains the most successful. (Another fun thing: European Credits look kind of similar to credit cards)''
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:26 pm

This is so weird. Why would you run a socialist currency alongside a capitalist currency? And why would anyone accept labour vouchers if they were to be destroyed, when they can actually profit from Euro credits. This is especially as there shouldn't, in practice, be much trust in the global credits anyway, due to the instability of your currency. And "you can use regional currency anywhere"- no you can't, have ever tried to use Scottish money in England? Whilst it's technically legal, good luck actually doing so in practice. (And the only difference between English and Scottish money is the picture on it, they're not different currencies as your system has). The only regional currency that would actually be usable in practice globally would be the Euro, if even that. And why have a backing for your currency? In times of extreme abundance or extreme shortages of the backing material, you're going to have hyper-inflation/hyper-deflation respectively. This is why fiat currency exists. With your government unstable as it is, you're just begging for a coup. Maybe fixing your currency would stabalise your government.

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Whilst the right for the states to govern is enshrined in the constitution, the territories don't have such constitutional protections. This means that in theory, the territories could see direct governance from the federal government. However, in practice, the mainland territories actually have their own government which is allowed to legislate. The federal government can also in theory, and in practice, override any decisions made by the mainland territories (the federal government can't do this to the states), but in practice generally repects the territories' rights, and will only rarely interfere with the internal affairs of the mainland territories. The exception is Jervis Bay Territory, a t semi-autonomous territory of the Australian Capital Territory, approx. 100 km away from the ACT proper, created to give the ACT access to the sea, as it is too small in terms of population to justify having its own government. The exception to all this, is of coarse, federal law, which applies to all states and territories equally, and cannot be overridden by state law. The inhabbited external territories are in their own catagory all together
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Postby Borgevia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:52 pm

Sounds similar to most Federalized Democracies irl. However, if said territories have a pathway to statehood, that'd be much more ideal.


Even though systemic racism towards non-Creator races no longer persists in Borgovia, its German, Slavic, Nordic, Central & Southern African, and non-Incan indigenous peoples in the country are still the bulk of Borgovia's emigrants. This isn't because Borgovia forced them to move out nor is it because they live in fear of Federal Police burning their houses down. It's a result of Borgovia's racist history and many of these people are still feeling its effects.

Due to almost 200 years of 'Anyone not descendant of Ancient civilizations are subhumans whose purpose is to entertain us' attitude in Borgovia, the poorest Borgovians have names like Schmidt, Arlovski, Karlsson, etc. It has come to a point tanned Germans in Borgovia would make up convoluted stories of how they're technically Latino or Greek just to avoid discrimination and classism. While Germans in other parts of the world do very well financially, it's mostly Borgovia that they're often poor. The wealthiest German-Borgovians were part of the 'Vita Auream' project, a eugenics project to create the most beautiful, fit, intelligent person for the sake of being walking artwork, their descendants have been stripped of their identity and background and raised in a Spanish-Italian culture so they grow up "Roman". Many of them descendants of lower class German women raped by Borgovians who deem said woman 'beautiful enough' to not 'taint' the superior Roman genes.

Germans are also associated with the infamous city of Fortuna, once a privately owned planned city built on the blood of German, Hungarian, and Japanese POWs who toil away for greedy corporate elites. The Japanese were later given a pass after their surrender, because they're Han Descendants, so they're civilized enough to not be indentured workers in the pre-Democracy era of Borgovian history. Slavs were denied the right to own property because they "have no history besides destroying and defecating on the blessings of Rome & Constantinople", and even in the 2040s, they're barely moving upward on the social ladder. Job discrimination throughout history also affected these demographics.

Even if the average Borgovian no longer discriminates against these people, Germanic, Nordic, Slavic, or Apache descendants were at a historical disadvantage like Black-Americans, and thus, they struggle to adequately move upward as they have little access to education, private tutoring, and such compared to their more historically privileged Chinese, Greek, and Portuguese immigrants. Many German-Borgovians moved next door to Brazil, although the United States is the second most popular option. 'Vita Auream' Germans, or 'Tedeschi d'oro' // 'Alemanes de oro' (Golden Germans) are practically Latinized Germans and often stay in Borgovia, feeling more Latino than Germanic. While the average German or Pole in the country are doing much better now, they're still struggling compared to other demographics.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:27 pm

Borgevia wrote:Sounds similar to most Federalized Democracies irl. However, if said territories have a pathway to statehood, that'd be much more ideal.



Not going to happen. It may seem unfair that the mainland territories can send 2 senators to Canberra and the states can send 6 senators to Canberra, especially considering that the most populace mainland territory, ACT (where Canberra is located) has 450,000 population, whilst Tasmania has less than 550,000 persons, until you realise that Tasmania is the only state with less than a million, whereby states such as Victoria, with over 6 million persons, and NSW and QLD, with over 7 million, each, only get to send 6 senators per state, meaning that the ACT already has more representation per person than the two most populace states, if she were to get 6 senators, this would destroy the power parity. The 6 senators rule was founded at federation, when the smaller states were worried about the power disparity of the larger states. As the mainland territories were founded after federation, they were placed under different rules

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Australian rePublic wrote:This is so weird. Why would you run a socialist currency alongside a capitalist currency? And why would anyone accept labour vouchers if they were to be destroyed, when they can actually profit from Euro credits. This is especially as there shouldn't, in practice, be much trust in the global credits anyway, due to the instability of your currency. And "you can use regional currency anywhere"- no you can't, have ever tried to use Scottish money in England? Whilst it's technically legal, good luck actually doing so in practice. (And the only difference between English and Scottish money is the picture on it, they're not different currencies as your system has). The only regional currency that would actually be usable in practice globally would be the Euro, if even that. And why have a backing for your currency? In times of extreme abundance or extreme shortages of the backing material, you're going to have hyper-inflation/hyper-deflation respectively. This is why fiat currency exists. With your government unstable as it is, you're just begging for a coup. Maybe fixing your currency would stabalise your government.

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Whilst the right for the states to govern is enshrined in the constitution, the territories don't have such constitutional protections. This means that in theory, the territories could see direct governance from the federal government. However, in practice, the mainland territories actually have their own government which is allowed to legislate. The federal government can also in theory, and in practice, override any decisions made by the mainland territories (the federal government can't do this to the states), but in practice generally repects the territories' rights, and will only rarely interfere with the internal affairs of the mainland territories. The exception is Jervis Bay Territory, a t semi-autonomous territory of the Australian Capital Territory, approx. 100 km away from the ACT proper, created to give the ACT access to the sea, as it is too small in terms of population to justify having its own government. The exception to all this, is of coarse, federal law, which applies to all states and territories equally, and cannot be overridden by state law. The inhabbited external territories are in their own catagory all together


Well, labor vouchers were mentioned just as a comparison, and they aren't actually used at all in SC. I perhaps should have worded it differently in this case, then. And, well, that's what was written, actually - ''Some of the regional currencies are used only in one region'', which means, that Scottish pound would be used only in one region in such case. There are sub-categories of regional currencies depending on their area of usage. And, while the government might want to fix the system, SC's fragile structure means, that a large reform wouldn't be possible, due of central government not having a 100% control outside of the lands directly controlled by them - kind of like HRE, but even more extreme. Warlords can raise their own armies, and also hold to their own currency, and they would resist the stabilization, as in SC's world it would involve centralization of power as well. In fact, it being unstable is a pretty major part of the plot, and its collapse is canonical.
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Postby Great Nortend » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:31 am

Borgevia wrote:Even though systemic racism towards non-Creator races no longer persists in Borgovia, its German, Slavic, Nordic, Central & Southern African, and non-Incan indigenous peoples in the country are still the bulk of Borgovia's emigrants. This isn't because Borgovia forced them to move out nor is it because they live in fear of Federal Police burning their houses down. It's a result of Borgovia's racist history and many of these people are still feeling its effects.

Due to almost 200 years of 'Anyone not descendant of Ancient civilizations are subhumans whose purpose is to entertain us' attitude in Borgovia, the poorest Borgovians have names like Schmidt, Arlovski, Karlsson, etc. It has come to a point tanned Germans in Borgovia would make up convoluted stories of how they're technically Latino or Greek just to avoid discrimination and classism. While Germans in other parts of the world do very well financially, it's mostly Borgovia that they're often poor. The wealthiest German-Borgovians were part of the 'Vita Auream' project, a eugenics project to create the most beautiful, fit, intelligent person for the sake of being walking artwork, their descendants have been stripped of their identity and background and raised in a Spanish-Italian culture so they grow up "Roman". Many of them descendants of lower class German women raped by Borgovians who deem said woman 'beautiful enough' to not 'taint' the superior Roman genes.

Germans are also associated with the infamous city of Fortuna, once a privately owned planned city built on the blood of German, Hungarian, and Japanese POWs who toil away for greedy corporate elites. The Japanese were later given a pass after their surrender, because they're Han Descendants, so they're civilized enough to not be indentured workers in the pre-Democracy era of Borgovian history. Slavs were denied the right to own property because they "have no history besides destroying and defecating on the blessings of Rome & Constantinople", and even in the 2040s, they're barely moving upward on the social ladder. Job discrimination throughout history also affected these demographics.

Even if the average Borgovian no longer discriminates against these people, Germanic, Nordic, Slavic, or Apache descendants were at a historical disadvantage like Black-Americans, and thus, they struggle to adequately move upward as they have little access to education, private tutoring, and such compared to their more historically privileged Chinese, Greek, and Portuguese immigrants. Many German-Borgovians moved next door to Brazil, although the United States is the second most popular option. 'Vita Auream' Germans, or 'Tedeschi d'oro' // 'Alemanes de oro' (Golden Germans) are practically Latinized Germans and often stay in Borgovia, feeling more Latino than Germanic. While the average German or Pole in the country are doing much better now, they're still struggling compared to other demographics.

That seems quite interesting. Great Nortend is quite ethnically and culturally homogenous sensu lato, but also very welcoming to foreigners as long as they share the same views and values.


Both a constable and a warden of the peace are empowered to disperse rioters. A constable has the power to disperse rioters under the law of the realm (also known as the regular law or jus regni) with necessary force where rioters are an immediate danger to the King's peace, are 'riotously, tumultuously and assembled' for malicious, nefarious or criminal purposes, have no lawful authority to undertake such riotous acts, and number greater than twelve men. Such a riot is known as a 'tumultuous and riotous assembly'. A constable is not empowered to raise a posse comitatus for riots, unless there is a need to capture rioters rather than disperse them.

A warden of the peace, however, is empowered to disperse rioters under statute in additional circumstances, such as for 'peaceful protests' or smaller groups, with more severe penalties for non-compliance, the ability to raise a posse comitatus to capture, arrest and preserve the peace, exemption from liability surrounding injuries suffered amongst other provisions in the Suppression of Riotous Assemblies Act, 7 Edm. VIII p 34.

In either case, the officer must orally warn rioters before using force to disperse them. The form prescribed by the Act is by the proclamation opprimendo tumultus:

OUR Sovereign Lord the King doth strictly charge order and command all manner of persons here tumultuously and riotously assembled immediately to disperse themselves and peaceably depart to their own homes. God save the King.


Continuing to riot thereafter and/or failure to disperse within fifteen minutes are highly felonious offences. In most riots, the constabulary are content to use truncheons, manacles, shields, horses and pikes. In serious cases, firearms and tear gas may be used.
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Postby Ayissor » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:59 am

A necessary policy to keep the peace, nothing new or extraordinary, even though some may call it barbaric.
More power to your peacekeepers.



As with most fantasy settings, the world in which Ayissor is set does have floating islands, the reasons behind them floating is a bit different.
Yes, the cause behind it is Magicka, to be more specific, the floating land is infused with a high concentration of it, while the land below is not, this causes the two to push each other, causing the infused land to go up into the sky. This locks the land in place, which makes it stationary despite being in the sky, it also exposes the lower land to a ton of "Negative" Magicka, which causes the things that live, grow and flourish there not only to be deformed, but also extremely hostile and toxic, the Magicka there create pockets in which the physical world almost breaks, those pockets can be anything from a pocket of extreme pressure crushing anything that goes within it, to a pocket of extreme heat that evaporates anything it comes to contact with.
The land isn't entirely useless, however, if you are brave enough, and have the correct equipment to withstand the negative Magicka, it is the only location one can get the purest of astral crystals, astral crystals infused with so much Magicka that there is nothing to compare to them, it is said that the gem on the crown of stars worn by the monarch of Ayissor is such a crystal.
The Islands above are charged with "Positive" Magicka, causing living things there to grow more stronger, crops to be more bountiful, the animals healthier, witches and acolytes have an easier time learning and practising the arcane arts there, which, up until the invention of aircraft, reserved the islands to them, alongside nobles and those wealthy enough to hire a dragonrider, since the invention of aircraft, the floating isles became the most wealthy areas, cities there are known to be almost as wealthy as Aruelle, the city of gold.

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Postby Borgevia » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:28 pm

In that case, I'm also assuming there are corpses laying everywhere in the negative space given how dangerous it is, but also the rewards of finding the astral crystals.


The "Ugly Borgovian" stereotype is one of the many "Ugly" foreigner archetype, the other being Ugly Chinese, Ugly American, and Ugly Russian.

Ugly Borgovians aren't loud or obnoxious like the Americans, they're not monkeys howling at locals and pissing in the streets like Russians, nor are they infamous for being rude, pushy, and inconsiderate of order & manners like the Ugly Chinese stereotype. They're mostly infamous for excess yet very frugal (which is annoying to locals) as well as being very superficial & snobbish.

Borgovians are very frugal but also enjoy excess, if they're hungry, it must be an instagrammable restaurant with good portions of good, or an AYCE Buffet. Fancy restaurants with small portions often face the wrath of Borgovian foodies who leave bad reviews online and have the ability to haggle for hours to price them fairly. Unlike Japanese or American tourists, Borgovians aren't paying for a bite sized dish for the sake of saying "I'm rich", they want to be satisfied and enjoy a high quality meal. If that can't be provided, expect them to crowd top-tier AYCE areas, often sliding very fat slips of money to their waiters if the service is good. They want good food in good portions at a fair price, and are infamous for making fun of an American tourist for asking her study abroad roommate, a Borgovian, to eat at this gimmicky bourgeoisie restaurant with her. The Borgovian refused and it led to the American girl crying, leading to social media having a very Anti-Borgovian + Fat Acceptance mood. "You're not fat. Stop dieting, learn basic finance, spend that extra cash on a better skincare routine, or else you'll be a used up anorexic whore by the time you're 25. Your looks aren't going to make you money online for long so save up."

Because fitness and gym life is practically an integral part of Borgovian society as the government of the past encouraged 'beauty' to the point of having a eugenics project for it, many Borgovians require more calories and thus don't take small portions very lightly. They're also very vain in that the more 'beautiful' you are, the more 'successful' you are. Borgovian tourists are known to criticize other tourists openly, sometimes even locals. Giving them unwarranted skincare advice or turning down people at clubs in the most douchey way possible: "Sorry, I like men who don't look like rapists. Have you considered retinol creams and shaving? Your chances will improve" or "If you weren't Finnish, I would've said yes. You're cute as hell, don't get me wrong, but you Nords age very badly. You get so fat and your face so leather-like before 30. Lay down the grease and fried shit, darling". Some of the stereotypes are even shown during diplomatic talks when a Borgovian Parliamentary member, speaking with Vice President Mike Pence in 2019, accidentally blurted "For the Vice President of a nation of high caliber, I'd expect an offer of a drink higher in social standing" implying beer is drink of the 'lower' people and thus, Mike Pence is insulting Borgovia by calling them lower class people.

While Borgovians for the most part are very well behaved, they're infamous for their strong words, superficiality, frugality, and elitism. By elitism, it means bullying German exchange students for their education system elitism. Since Germany's schools focus more on getting you a job after finishing your apprenticeship, Borgovia's system is Pre-School to High School graduation focusing on intensive, interdisciplinary education with the final year being a 'pathway introduction'. So by the time a Borgovian student graduates, they're able to link History, Sociology, International Relations, Psychology, Mathematics, Physics, and Literature into a web of knowledge while also pursuing their trade of choice. It's more intense than the Singaporean education system (due to the country being around 40% Han Chinese), and so, it made them smug around Germans who don't know elementary sociology or Asian history unless they specifically study it in university, which makes them seem "Stupid" to Borgovians, including Borgovians who studied abroad in Germany, and the average test scores between Borgovians and other Europeans inflates the superiority complex further.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:09 pm

One day, one of your tourists will rub the wrong person up the wrong way, and end up in a prison or hospitalised after a punch or something. And that comment about Germans who don't know about Asian history warrants the reply of "and how much do you know about European history?" That's only appropriate response to that situtation
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State and territory governments have their own driving laws, but there is a call to standardise the driving laws, having a uniform federal driving law which will be uniform everywhere. The state, territory and federal governments are looking into this, with the the provision for localised laws (e.g. snow or sepperate laws for Tasmania, as it is a tiny island, or laws for tiny islands with no road access to the mainland), as is already the case within states and territories which require localised specialisations. The move is met with approval by those who live on state borders, and interstate truck drivers, but it's nit guaranteed to come to pass

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Postby UIS Leviathan » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:46 pm

That is incredibly inefficient, and a terrible idea. No one should be against making standard driving laws for the entire country, including colonies or islands. Standard is simple, cost effective, and much safer. It would save time at the DMV, too, and god knows everyone hates spending time there.




The Leviathan Class is famous among sailors for being essentially a floating hotel. Rooms are spacious and comfortable, there is free high speed internet throughout the ship, the food is delicious and healthy, the air is fresh and clean, and there’s many recreational rooms with TVs, computers, and games.
Along with that, there’s facilities such as a gym, pool, small shop, dentist, doctor's office, and advanced hospital on par with most land-based ones.
Additionally, there’s occasionally things like BBQs on the flight deck, and other “events” to keep morale high.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:48 pm

UIS Leviathan wrote:That is incredibly inefficient, and a terrible idea. No one should be against making standard driving laws for the entire country, including colonies or islands. Standard is simple, cost effective, and much safer. It would save time at the DMV, too, and god knows everyone hates spending time there.




The Leviathan Class is famous among sailors for being essentially a floating hotel. Rooms are spacious and comfortable, there is free high speed internet throughout the ship, the food is delicious and healthy, the air is fresh and clean, and there’s many recreational rooms with TVs, computers, and games.
Along with that, there’s facilities such as a gym, pool, small shop, dentist, doctor's office, and advanced hospital on par with most land-based ones.
Additionally, there’s occasionally things like BBQs on the flight deck, and other “events” to keep morale high.

A happy and healthy crew is an effective crew.

This isn't the USA, dude. Our equivilants of the DMV isn't universally hated. As for islands, it's mostly about are cars, trucks, etc. Allowd here" and local speed limits,the status of golf buggies, etc.)
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Postby UIS Leviathan » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:52 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
UIS Leviathan wrote:That is incredibly inefficient, and a terrible idea. No one should be against making standard driving laws for the entire country, including colonies or islands. Standard is simple, cost effective, and much safer. It would save time at the DMV, too, and god knows everyone hates spending time there.




The Leviathan Class is famous among sailors for being essentially a floating hotel. Rooms are spacious and comfortable, there is free high speed internet throughout the ship, the food is delicious and healthy, the air is fresh and clean, and there’s many recreational rooms with TVs, computers, and games.
Along with that, there’s facilities such as a gym, pool, small shop, dentist, doctor's office, and advanced hospital on par with most land-based ones.
Additionally, there’s occasionally things like BBQs on the flight deck, and other “events” to keep morale high.

A happy and healthy crew is an effective crew.

This isn't the USA, dude. Our equivilants of the DMV isn't universally hated. As for islands, it's mostly about are cars, trucks, etc. Allowd here" and local speed limits,the status of golf buggies, etc.)
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Postby Borgevia » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:55 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:One day, one of your tourists will rub the wrong person up the wrong way, and end up in a prison or hospitalised after a punch or something. And that comment about Germans who don't know about Asian history warrants the reply of "and how much do you know about European history?" That's only appropriate response to that situtation
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State and territory governments have their own driving laws, but there is a call to standardise the driving laws, having a uniform federal driving law which will be uniform everywhere. The state, territory and federal governments are looking into this, with the the provision for localised laws (e.g. snow or sepperate laws for Tasmania, as it is a tiny island, or laws for tiny islands with no road access to the mainland), as is already the case within states and territories which require localised specialisations. The move is met with approval by those who live on state borders, and interstate truck drivers, but it's nit guaranteed to come to pass


Without standardised driving laws, there would be issues of organisation when traveling from state to state. Hopefully, if it does fail, it can be revised to at least have some common sense laws for driving around the nation.


@UIS:
That's actually pretty smart tbh. High morale has more beneifts than budget cuts and being cheap with what you have. It also sounds like a fun job too, so probably the best candidates are on the ship.


Fact and also answer to Australia
East Asians make up 32% of the population with White Europeans making up a little less than 50%, but still the plurality of the population. Knowledge of the Nguyen Dynasty's southern expansion, Satsuma Rebellion, or Yellow Turban Rebellion is just as common as Caesar's conquest of the Gauls, the sacking of Constantinople by Crusaders, and the Spartacus League in Germany. It's because all those 6 events played a significant role in shaping geopolitics at the time which led to various other events in History and other fields like Sociology which affected how modern countries interact based on their history (hence: "interdisciplinary"). Borgovians wouldn't be smug to Germans if they don't have a good reason for it. They're not smug about culinary art with the Chinese or Italians, after all, Borgovian cuisine is a mix of Mediterranean & East Asian. But they're smug around Koreans & Germans when it comes to academics because they're actually better than them in that field.

However, most Borgovians, even the Caucasian ones, would laugh at said German and mock them in a very abusive way, labeling them with "White Fragility" then point out how Borgovians studied both European & Asian History alongside the history of the Americas aka "World History", which may lead to even more smugness because the German would assume Borgovians only learn Asian history when they're not even an Asian country, so goes the "Germans suck at Sociology and Geography too!" smugness.

Borgovia ranks among the highest in education due in part to it being a mixture of Eastern Confucianism & Western Humanism, it's also ranked as the healthiest developed country with some of the highest life expectancy in the world. Borgovia also brings home World Cup trophies, Miss Universe winners, their Pop Culture is a major export, their Business schools are among the best in the world, and they have the longest bullet train system (China is catching up though) in the world and second most efficient behind only Japan's. They score poorly when it comes to cost of living as Borgovia is a very expensive country with the highest suicide rate in the Americas (4th in the Western world), school bullying is also a major issue, of all High Income countries in the Americas, Borgovia has the 2nd highest income inequality behind the USA, and the country hasn't done anything to remedy income inequality between historically privileged races (Latinos, East Asians, Levantine, Persians, Jews, South Asians) and marginalized races (Slavs, non-Ehtiopian/Malian Blacks, non-Incan Native Americans, Protestant Germans, etc).


Their arrogance, however, can only be compared to Brits, Americans, and Chinese. Their vanity can be compared to Koreans and Persians.
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Postby New Transeurasia » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:41 pm

Borgevia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:One day, one of your tourists will rub the wrong person up the wrong way, and end up in a prison or hospitalised after a punch or something. And that comment about Germans who don't know about Asian history warrants the reply of "and how much do you know about European history?" That's only appropriate response to that situtation
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State and territory governments have their own driving laws, but there is a call to standardise the driving laws, having a uniform federal driving law which will be uniform everywhere. The state, territory and federal governments are looking into this, with the the provision for localised laws (e.g. snow or sepperate laws for Tasmania, as it is a tiny island, or laws for tiny islands with no road access to the mainland), as is already the case within states and territories which require localised specialisations. The move is met with approval by those who live on state borders, and interstate truck drivers, but it's nit guaranteed to come to pass


Without standardised driving laws, there would be issues of organisation when traveling from state to state. Hopefully, if it does fail, it can be revised to at least have some common sense laws for driving around the nation.


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That's actually pretty smart tbh. High morale has more beneifts than budget cuts and being cheap with what you have. It also sounds like a fun job too, so probably the best candidates are on the ship.


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East Asians make up 32% of the population with White Europeans making up a little less than 50%, but still the plurality of the population. Knowledge of the Nguyen Dynasty's southern expansion, Satsuma Rebellion, or Yellow Turban Rebellion is just as common as Caesar's conquest of the Gauls, the sacking of Constantinople by Crusaders, and the Spartacus League in Germany. It's because all those 6 events played a significant role in shaping geopolitics at the time which led to various other events in History and other fields like Sociology which affected how modern countries interact based on their history (hence: "interdisciplinary"). Borgovians wouldn't be smug to Germans if they don't have a good reason for it. They're not smug about culinary art with the Chinese or Italians, after all, Borgovian cuisine is a mix of Mediterranean & East Asian. But they're smug around Koreans & Germans when it comes to academics because they're actually better than them in that field.

However, most Borgovians, even the Caucasian ones, would laugh at said German and mock them in a very abusive way, labeling them with "White Fragility" then point out how Borgovians studied both European & Asian History alongside the history of the Americas aka "World History", which may lead to even more smugness because the German would assume Borgovians only learn Asian history when they're not even an Asian country, so goes the "Germans suck at Sociology and Geography too!" smugness.

Borgovia ranks among the highest in education due in part to it being a mixture of Eastern Confucianism & Western Humanism, it's also ranked as the healthiest developed country with some of the highest life expectancy in the world. Borgovia also brings home World Cup trophies, Miss Universe winners, their Pop Culture is a major export, their Business schools are among the best in the world, and they have the longest bullet train system (China is catching up though) in the world and second most efficient behind only Japan's. They score poorly when it comes to cost of living as Borgovia is a very expensive country with the highest suicide rate in the Americas (4th in the Western world), school bullying is also a major issue, of all High Income countries in the Americas, Borgovia has the 2nd highest income inequality behind the USA, and the country hasn't done anything to remedy income inequality between historically privileged races (Latinos, East Asians, Levantine, Persians, Jews, South Asians) and marginalized races (Slavs, non-Ehtiopian/Malian Blacks, non-Incan Native Americans, Protestant Germans, etc).


Their arrogance, however, can only be compared to Brits, Americans, and Chinese. Their vanity can be compared to Koreans and Persians.

Makes sense. If you're the best at something, you can be smug about it.(i.e. the US in the 20th century being smug to just about the entire world outside of western Europe and Canada because they dropped not 1, but 2 nuclear bombs during World War 2. Nobody other than the US used nuclear bombs, so there's really no competition.)

Transportation between the denser areas of NT(Mostly eastern Europe and Karafuto and Manchuria) is big competition. Freight transport is almost always done by rail(still competition between NTŽD and multiple private railways), except for time-sensitive freight. Passenger transport, which is a larger sector of the transportation industry, is fierce competition between railways and airlines. Airlines offer faster speeds, crossing Asia from Moscow to Chángchūn in as little as 9.33 hours, though are at very high prices(A New Transeurasian booking site shows lowest prices starting from 6192 Rubles, or 516 N$D, for a one-way economy ticket on the budget airline EuroFly). High-speed rail, which is in close competition with air travel, is cheaper, though slower. Tickets for a one-way second class ticket on NTŽD high-speed trains from Moscow to Chángchūn start from 3350 Rubles, or 279.1667 N$D. Trains cross from Moscow to Chángchūn in 13.5 hours, only 4 hours slower than air travel.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:52 pm

Rail is by its nature more expensive than planes. You don't have to pay to maintain the sky. The only exception Is when the government subsides rail travel. Is this the case in your nation?



Due to the lack of water level stability in the few navigable rivers, there are no inland freight ports in Australia. All inland cargo is either transported by truck, train or plane
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Postby Allied Iran » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:17 pm

Which one is the most used though? Plane, truck, or train?


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