Page 409 of 488

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:40 am
by Kyria
North German Realm wrote:Of course we didn't defend them. If we had defended Denmark against Sweden, Britain would be obliged to join the war on Sweden's side (despite the fact the two nations fought on the opposing sides of the Great War, Sweden and Britain never declared war on each other, which means their earlier agreement in 1904 still held). All it took was an understanding with the British, and we could let the Scandinavians deal with their own problems. And sure, the Finns were under repression until "Kingdom of Sweden-Denmark" became "Empire of Scandinavia" a few decades later. I'm not quite sure what gave you the idea that the Balts were getting displaces though. /skip


Germanisation. ‘Nuff said.

/skip

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:42 am
by North German Realm
Kyria wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Of course we didn't defend them. If we had defended Denmark against Sweden, Britain would be obliged to join the war on Sweden's side (despite the fact the two nations fought on the opposing sides of the Great War, Sweden and Britain never declared war on each other, which means their earlier agreement in 1904 still held). All it took was an understanding with the British, and we could let the Scandinavians deal with their own problems. And sure, the Finns were under repression until "Kingdom of Sweden-Denmark" became "Empire of Scandinavia" a few decades later. I'm not quite sure what gave you the idea that the Balts were getting displaces though. /skip


Germanisation. ‘Nuff said.

/skip
I've... I've been very explicit in mentioning that that is not what happened though. /skip

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:45 am
by Kyria
North German Realm wrote:
Kyria wrote:
Germanisation. ‘Nuff said.

/skip
I've... I've been very explicit in mentioning that that is not what happened though. /skip


I need to rattle my Teutophobia sabre about something :/

/skip

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:20 pm
by Borgevia
Kyria wrote:Does that mean Scandinavia was unified under one crown? If so, excellent! I love it when Scandinavia is a power, though I hope the native Finns aren’t under any kind of repression or cultural replacement like what happened to the indigenous Balts. Not defending Denmark was the only thing I can commend NGR for.
Due to its sheer size, the Grand Union is very much a federal state wherein provinces can have different laws or ways of life so long these do not directly contradict federal law. For example, abortion is accessible in most provinces but not in others, specifically the Francophone provinces like Quebec, Louisiana, Illinois and others. In these provinces, abortion is illegal. In the more liberal, explicitly Anglo provinces like Oregon or Massachusetts, abortion is available on demand for all Kyrian citizens.


On one hand, leaving things to how province want to do can prevent a nationwide ban on abortion, but it may also help the lesser advanced ones progress to modernity. Double edge sword here.


Historically, Albanian and Japanese Borgovians have some sort of "Ethnic Alliance" because Albanians were historically categorised as 'sub humans' and are thus put into horrible living conditions, little job opportunities, and few protection from the law. They're also banned from marrying or breeding with 'Creator' (Chinese, Persian, Jewish, Greek, Ethiopian) and 'Civilised' (Japanese, Jordanian, Turkish, Malian) races who are seen as 'Humans' by the law and so they receive legal protection of life, liberty, and property. It wasn't until a wealthy Corpus of Japanese descent that fought tooth and nail, using his massive political and financial influence with strong connections to other Corpus members, that later got Albanians reclassified as "Hellenistic" which makes them "Civilised" and Corpus Board Member Nishimura can finally marry his Albanian lover and legally have children. This led to many Albanian-Borgovians moving into Japanese (and in few cases, Chinese & Thai) neighbourhoods from their former slums. Going to school, becoming educated, working for or working with, and interacting with Japanese-Borgovians eventually forming a strong "ethnic bond" between the two nationalities. It was also because of Japanese-Borgovians that Albanian-Borgovians quickly ascended the economic ladder, though the racist pre-democratic government at the time argued "They're a Hellenistic people, they're intelligent enough to climb the ladder through hard work and study unlike the dirty, lazy, mentally impaired Hmong and Slavs".

Despite such, Albanian-Borgovians, though a very small number of Borgovia's population, are the most well known demographic and also among the most proactive. Despite their newfound privileges and prosperity, they're on the front lines of several Anti-Caste movement. The first Albanian Corpus Board Member attempted to dismantle the caste system but was voted down. It was until 1963 that Borgovia's Racial Caste was dismantled, giving everyone under Borgovia's banner the same rights and privileges. The act was called the Nishimura-Shehu Act of 1963 to honour the Japanese Corpus member and his Albanian wife. The court ruling being the spark that caused the fires of anti-racism throughout the entirety of Borgovia's history. German-Borgovians, Russian-Borgovians, Hmong-Borgovians, Laotian-Borgovians, Swedish-Borgovians, etc all owe their newfound rights and humanisation in the 1960s to both the Japanese and Albanian population, especially Albanians who spent their entire history after being considered Human fighting for the right of every other "Sub Humans" to have the same rights they gained, with Japanese-Borgovians being very supportive as well. To this day, Albanian-Borgovians and Japanese-Borgovians are among the most "SJW" nationalities in the country. Little Tirana in Buenos Aires also has a section of the city being a "Little Tokyo inside Little Tirana" because of their history together where you can visit a Shinto shrine's garden and pay homage to both Mrs. Shehu and Mr. Nishimura as their ashes were scattered there after death.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:06 pm
by Tohorin
North German Realm wrote:I mean technically the Korean War never ended in our timeline too. The Korean Conflict didn't just end when the war turned to be a stalemate. That said, I'm surprised that KJU would even be in shape enough to engage in personal combat at any point after the Liberation of Korea ended.

AN: Why in the name of fuck would a semi-nomadic people even have a conception of "serfdom" though.


To, North German Realm; It's questionable how semi-nomadic they are. Written records, the conception of a State, and some preserved "advanced" technologies exist...and the Tohorinese claim to hail from a cultured sunken island kingdom, though that may or may not be mythical. The Tohorinese consider themselves pilgrims in search of a homeland. And I based the idea on theories over the Toltec/Chichimec dichotomy of Mesoamerica more than the Mongols because I actually know squat about Asian cultures. Though I do state that the Tohorinise quickly adapted some of fantasy Europe's institutions, it's also speculatively arguable if "semi-nomadic" was a transitional lifestyle coexisting with un-labeled sedentary life, or if it's a lineage or a generic ethnic label. Also, I did want to fuck with the readers that way. Kudos in pointing out the issue, I'll edit things in my Factbooks to make the timeline even more longer and put small notes. Thank you.



AN: We always knew you humans were insane when it came to priories on skin color and nationality. If you can breed with other groups, that means they can be absorbed into yours or be bred out because the superior culture will reign supreme. And if they can't be absorbed than you kill them if they're biologically incompatible.



The Winter Solstice Battle is a solemn time because it is the time in which the Sun Goddess Tohorin is far away from us, and the daylight hours the weakest and shortest. Hence, she requires nourishment to carry on her fight against darkness and her rebellious siblings, the Stars. We provide aid in the form of blood: the Emperor/Empress cut one of their veins open and drizzle some blood onto a pot of meat, vegetables and fish, which is later exhumed. With this, and with ceremonial sacrifices of animals, it is expected that the Sun regains its power for the agricultural seasons to come. The celebration used to involve sacrificing warriors and ritual cannibalism, but that was deemed counter-productive when our numbers began to dwindle up North.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:44 pm
by Godular
Heh. At least you got a way from human sacrifice and more towards eating a totally contaminated feast. Baby steps, yo. Baby steps.




Sarathress' language is actually a meta-language, composed of five different sub-languages that all relate to different forms of expression. These five sub-languages are Declarative, Emotive, Mathematical, Historic, and Prophetic.

Declarative relates to statements of fact, which the An'Kazar hold in high regard and for this reason ascribe the highest 'priority'. Direct orders are typically laid out in terms of the other languages and then emphasized with a declarative statement. An order to surrender, for example, would be phrased as "YOU WILL SUBMIT. IT IS DEMANDED!" This is the use of a prophetic statement, raised to the status of an order with the declarative statement that it is a demand. If an An'Kazar were to offer a suggestion to a superior officer and then add a declarative modifier at the end, that An'Kazar would be executed for mutiny for the crime of daring to issue an order to that superior officer.

Emotive relates both to statements of personal opinion, philosophy, and logic (ironically enough). An'Kazar typically speak this language when overcome with some form of emotion, or when trying to contain themselves in order to keep themselves from getting violent. An'Kazar curses are in this language. A popular example is 'SEVEN CURSES TO THE WIND', which is essentially an An'Kazar expressing frustration about something they cannot help.

Mathematical relates to descriptions of scientific understanding and the equations relevant to properly getting the meaning of such scientific concepts across. When an An'Kazar wishes to describe why a certain machine cannot function or to back up a course of action, they do so with the Mathematical language.

The Historic and Prophetic languages would most effectively be summarized as the Past and Future tenses in most other languages. Historic relates specifically to things that have happened, and are typically used when reporting the facts of a matter or backing up one's argument when Mathematics aren't a workable addition. Prophetic focuses on things that are expected to happen, or future actions. When one acknowledges an order, it is typically done so in Prophetic. "It shall be done!" is an example of a prophetic phrase.

These are considered separate languages because the vocabulary and syntax are wholly unrelated to each other, and it is virtually impossible to translate simply because An'Kazar speech shifts from one to the other with great fluidity, and anything attempting to build up a pattern would likely enter into some form of feedback loop.

Curiously, if an An'Kazar speaks, they demonstrate a curious form of telepathy in that they can relay the meaning of their statements to specific individuals who hear their words. This often manifests as a secondary voice translating the words, while others hear a kind of mental recursion that seems to amplify the voice to the point that it is a very real possibility that those not meant to hear the words pass out from the pain if they are not equipped to withstand the telepathic overload.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:45 pm
by Godular
le boomp?

/skip

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:13 pm
by New Transeurasia
Godular wrote:Heh. At least you got a way from human sacrifice and more towards eating a totally contaminated feast. Baby steps, yo. Baby steps.




Sarathress' language is actually a meta-language, composed of five different sub-languages that all relate to different forms of expression. These five sub-languages are Declarative, Emotive, Mathematical, Historic, and Prophetic.

Declarative relates to statements of fact, which the An'Kazar hold in high regard and for this reason ascribe the highest 'priority'. Direct orders are typically laid out in terms of the other languages and then emphasized with a declarative statement. An order to surrender, for example, would be phrased as "YOU WILL SUBMIT. IT IS DEMANDED!" This is the use of a prophetic statement, raised to the status of an order with the declarative statement that it is a demand. If an An'Kazar were to offer a suggestion to a superior officer and then add a declarative modifier at the end, that An'Kazar would be executed for mutiny for the crime of daring to issue an order to that superior officer.

Emotive relates both to statements of personal opinion, philosophy, and logic (ironically enough). An'Kazar typically speak this language when overcome with some form of emotion, or when trying to contain themselves in order to keep themselves from getting violent. An'Kazar curses are in this language. A popular example is 'SEVEN CURSES TO THE WIND', which is essentially an An'Kazar expressing frustration about something they cannot help.

Mathematical relates to descriptions of scientific understanding and the equations relevant to properly getting the meaning of such scientific concepts across. When an An'Kazar wishes to describe why a certain machine cannot function or to back up a course of action, they do so with the Mathematical language.

The Historic and Prophetic languages would most effectively be summarized as the Past and Future tenses in most other languages. Historic relates specifically to things that have happened, and are typically used when reporting the facts of a matter or backing up one's argument when Mathematics aren't a workable addition. Prophetic focuses on things that are expected to happen, or future actions. When one acknowledges an order, it is typically done so in Prophetic. "It shall be done!" is an example of a prophetic phrase.

These are considered separate languages because the vocabulary and syntax are wholly unrelated to each other, and it is virtually impossible to translate simply because An'Kazar speech shifts from one to the other with great fluidity, and anything attempting to build up a pattern would likely enter into some form of feedback loop.

Curiously, if an An'Kazar speaks, they demonstrate a curious form of telepathy in that they can relay the meaning of their statements to specific individuals who hear their words. This often manifests as a secondary voice translating the words, while others hear a kind of mental recursion that seems to amplify the voice to the point that it is a very real possibility that those not meant to hear the words pass out from the pain if they are not equipped to withstand the telepathic overload.

I'd assume how distinguishing between the sub-languages works is differing phonemes or the sub-languages don't have cognates.

Speed limits on New Transeurasian roads are very high compared to most countries it borders. Most residential streets have a speed limit of 40 or 50 km/h. Major roads in most cities have speed limits of 60-80 km/h. Rural roads can have speed limits as high as 110 km/h. Motorways in cities usually have a speed limit of 180-200 km/h, and rural motorways usually don't have any speed limit. The NT-Prussia border technically has the fastest border crossings in the world, since motorways across the border don't have checkpoints(Both nations are in the Schengen Area), and one can technically drive from Hamburg(capital of Prussia) to Moscow(capital of NT) at 300km/h(or at the speed limit on motorways in cities) continuously, and arrive in just short of 7.5 hours(Even with this information, it's still faster to take a train or plane). This doesn't cause very many more automobile fatalities, since NT citizens can drive from the age of 12, but aren't permitted on motorways until they gain a full license at age 15.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:53 pm
by New Periapsis
Sounds like a good way to get a lot of automobile related fatalities.

Our military has special imaging equipment similar to night vision goggles. The difference with ours is that it can see more of the electromagnetic spectrum. Using it, you can see gamma radiation and even the emissions of wireless devices behind walls.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:15 pm
by North German Realm
That's actually pretty ingenious. I applaud you, kind sir.

The second Danish-Swedish War (also known as the war of Danish Succession) was fought between the Kingdom of Sweden (controlling modern Finland and Norway) and the Kingdom of Denmark between February 17 and 7 November 1914, but it had its origin in a little earlier. On 1894, the Kingdom of Denmark and the Kingdom of Sweden-Norway went to war over a diplomatic insult. Aided by North Germans, Denmark humiliated Sweden and even annexed Skåneland, a territory it had historically controlled earlier. Between 1895 and 1911 (when Denmark finally returned Skåneland in the Peace Conference of Vienna), Sweden (which had been particularly not in support of war throughout the last century) went through a national remilitarization and an atmosphere of irridentist nationalism took over. And then, in 1913 (after Sweden finally pacified Finland after 2 years of rebellions), it just so happened that Frederick VIII of Denmark passed away while on a trip in North Germany. Suddenly, the Swedish king claimed the throne of Denmark for himself and triggered the Scandinavian crisis of 1912-14. For two years, the two counties (and their respective allies) fought a diplomatic battle, their great power allies keen on not starting another war so soon after the Great War had ended. Eventually, Sweden invaded Denmark after a week-long ultimatum was refused in early 1914, but this was only after North Germany both claimed neutrality and agreed via a secret treaty not to defend their Danish allies in the event of war.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:54 pm
by Kerlodia
North German Realm wrote:
Kyria wrote:Does that mean Scandinavia was unified under one crown? If so, excellent! I love it when Scandinavia is a power, though I hope the native Finns aren’t under any kind of repression or cultural replacement like what happened to the indigenous Balts. Not defending Denmark was the only thing I can commend NGR for.
Due to its sheer size, the Grand Union is very much a federal state wherein provinces can have different laws or ways of life so long these do not directly contradict federal law. For example, abortion is accessible in most provinces but not in others, specifically the Francophone provinces like Quebec, Louisiana, Illinois and others. In these provinces, abortion is illegal. In the more liberal, explicitly Anglo provinces like Oregon or Massachusetts, abortion is available on demand for all Kyrian citizens.

Of course we didn't defend them. If we had defended Denmark against Sweden, Britain would be obliged to join the war on Sweden's side (despite the fact the two nations fought on the opposing sides of the Great War, Sweden and Britain never declared war on each other, which means their earlier agreement in 1904 still held). All it took was an understanding with the British, and we could let the Scandinavians deal with their own problems. And sure, the Finns were under repression until "Kingdom of Sweden-Denmark" became "Empire of Scandinavia" a few decades later. I'm not quite sure what gave you the idea that the Balts were getting displaces though. /skip


Quite interesting, but I'm not good with wars and facts....

In Kerlodia, aging.... doesn't exactly work properly. Some shipgirls are created at a certain age. Others grow until a certain age.... and stop. Thus, IJN Mikasa of the Sakura Empire is over 50, but barely looks a day over 23.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:56 pm
by North German Realm
Kerlodia wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Of course we didn't defend them. If we had defended Denmark against Sweden, Britain would be obliged to join the war on Sweden's side (despite the fact the two nations fought on the opposing sides of the Great War, Sweden and Britain never declared war on each other, which means their earlier agreement in 1904 still held). All it took was an understanding with the British, and we could let the Scandinavians deal with their own problems. And sure, the Finns were under repression until "Kingdom of Sweden-Denmark" became "Empire of Scandinavia" a few decades later. I'm not quite sure what gave you the idea that the Balts were getting displaces though. /skip


Quite interesting, but I'm not good with wars and facts....

In Kerlodia, aging.... doesn't exactly work properly. Some shipgirls are created at a certain age. Others grow until a certain age.... and stop. Thus, IJN Mikasa of the Sakura Empire is over 50, but barely looks a day over 23.

Literally what? My post is literally above you lmao

The second Danish-Swedish War (also known as the war of Danish Succession) was fought between the Kingdom of Sweden (controlling modern Finland and Norway) and the Kingdom of Denmark between February 17 and 7 November 1914, but it had its origin in a little earlier. On 1894, the Kingdom of Denmark and the Kingdom of Sweden-Norway went to war over a diplomatic insult. Aided by North Germans, Denmark humiliated Sweden and even annexed Skåneland, a territory it had historically controlled earlier. Between 1895 and 1911 (when Denmark finally returned Skåneland in the Peace Conference of Vienna), Sweden (which had been particularly not in support of war throughout the last century) went through a national remilitarization and an atmosphere of irridentist nationalism took over. And then, in 1913 (after Sweden finally pacified Finland after 2 years of rebellions), it just so happened that Frederick VIII of Denmark passed away while on a trip in North Germany. Suddenly, the Swedish king claimed the throne of Denmark for himself and triggered the Scandinavian crisis of 1912-14. For two years, the two counties (and their respective allies) fought a diplomatic battle, their great power allies keen on not starting another war so soon after the Great War had ended. Eventually, Sweden invaded Denmark after a week-long ultimatum was refused in early 1914, but this was only after North Germany both claimed neutrality and agreed via a secret treaty not to defend their Danish allies in the event of war.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:55 am
by Tohorin
But these people are like siblings, they shouldn't fight. We would never do such a...wait, never-mind. The crises caused by lines of succession could be solved though with a more rigid form of granting powers to kings.



Something that shocked the humans of Western Halkengenia was the "Kemetian-Tohorin Border Conflict" of the Imperial Year 2668, which was redundantly done between them and us. As we were both "kitkin" (nekomimi) with a nominal goddess-monarch who both were known to build pyramids and worship the Sun, they assumed we were the same and that we cooperated peachily. In truth, apart from us settling near their far western coast, very different interpretations over the sun's role caused political and ideological-religious friction: especially them having a wide pantheon of deities we considered useless and them finding our views of "co-dependency with the Sun" to be blasphemous.

A border conflict which threatened to blow up into a full-scale war erupted over a sandbar in the middle of a river which marked our borders. In the following 6 months, both of us claimed an inconclusive military victory after a diplomatic end was reached and the sandbar's sand was simply dug out by both sides so that no middle ground in the river exist any more. In an odd moment of cooperation though, neither side actually allowed detailed accounts of tactics or weaponry to filter to the West though, as it was agreed that would compromise us both.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:25 pm
by A m e n r i a
Tohorin wrote:But these people are like siblings, they shouldn't fight. We would never do such a...wait, never-mind. The crises caused by lines of succession could be solved though with a more rigid form of granting powers to kings.



Something that shocked the humans of Western Halkengenia was the "Kemetian-Tohorin Border Conflict" of the Imperial Year 2668, which was redundantly done between them and us. As we were both "kitkin" (nekomimi) with a nominal goddess-monarch who both were known to build pyramids and worship the Sun, they assumed we were the same and that we cooperated peachily. In truth, apart from us settling near their far western coast, very different interpretations over the sun's role caused political and ideological-religious friction: especially them having a wide pantheon of deities we considered useless and them finding our views of "co-dependency with the Sun" to be blasphemous.

A border conflict which threatened to blow up into a full-scale war erupted over a sandbar in the middle of a river which marked our borders. In the following 6 months, both of us claimed an inconclusive military victory after a diplomatic end was reached and the sandbar's sand was simply dug out by both sides so that no middle ground in the river exist any more. In an odd moment of cooperation though, neither side actually allowed detailed accounts of tactics or weaponry to filter to the West though, as it was agreed that would compromise us both.


What did the gods think about it though? Oh, and did they not get involved because they were lazy or because it would tip the scales too far?

Superpowers in our universe are classified into power sets. This means that while two people might have the same main powers, the application can be different, as can the other powers that accompany the main one. For example, Crystal's Crystal Maiden allows her to turn herself into diamond, but her daughter's Starchild Capricorn allows her to do just that and so much more such aa telekinetically control diamonds.

Inheritance of superpowers isn't absolute. A telepath is just as likely to give birth to an unpowered person or a pyromancer as much as she is likely to give birth to another telepath.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:27 pm
by Borgevia
Border conflicts over worshiping the same object? Either both societies have a horrible Anthropology/Sociology research team, unskilled diplomats, or both factions in your world are just not mentally developed enough to pick their fights.

So if powers aren't 100% inheritable, and there's some magical regulation on use of powers, I'm curious how these people live with those who don't have such abilities. Would it be like Augs vs unaugs in a Deus Ex universe? Or mutants vs non-mutants in the X-men world?


Borgovian emo culture of the 2000s and its late 2010s - 2020s revival was different than its European and North American counterpart. While NA/EU normally go for post-hardcore music like From First to Last or My Chemical Romance with a 'fashion' of its own, Borgovian emos have neither. Instead, "Emo culture" is more of a community of socially awkward outcasts and/or jaded people longing for somewhere to belong. There's no "emo" fashion in Borgovia other than tongue-in-cheek attire joking about being depressed like a kawaii cloud crying rain. Its music doesn't stay exclusively within the post-hardcore or pop punk genre like its more Northern neighbours, but instead, is more "lyrical". A Pop or Metal song can be emo if its lyrics is within that realm. With millennials being a very transphobic, First World-Saviour generation, "emo" also became a critique of how Millennials (and Gen Xers to an extent) have made an outcast out of Zoomers and Gen Alphas in the 2020s - 2030s with songs like "With You" about social rejects (non-whites/sinics, trans, non-binaries, those who don't fit Borgovia's beauty standards, etc):
Loneliness has been choking your breast,
Until you start to fear leaving the comfort of your nest.
Sometimes the fear of rejection won't go away,
You just don't talk, what will those people say?

No matter how hard you try,
You've hurt no one, yet people keep shoving you by.
And as you start to age and still feeling like this,
Your time running out, like smoke in the night's breeze.

Please don't give in to your pain, you can make it through.
Please come find us, we are family, we are with you.


Although, not all anti-Xers/Anti-Millennial social critique songs are "Emo". Some of Borgovia's Hardcore/Punk scene, which is essentially South America's preferred genre like how Nordics prefer Metal, have very angry and often aggressive lyrics about them like the following few verses from the song "Woke und Olden", essentially calling Milelnnials/Xers old people trying to be 'woke' but are causing more harm than good and are too stubborn to do self-reflection. Also a play on the Nazi term "Blut und boden":
"Unity!" oh wow you're so woke aren't you?
You may be anti-homophobia, but then you're anti-trans.
Your gatekeeping may be from a lack of awareness
But if it's empathy you seek go jump off a god damn bridge.

You think you're building a tolerant society, you bloody hypocrites
Trans brothers & sisters die while you score virtue brownie points!
Bombing brown people because "representation" won't sit that well with me,
Believing in Climate change while lenient to corpos spilling oil isn't how it has to be.

Up your fucking standards or get out!
This is the new millennium and you're getting in the way!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:05 pm
by A m e n r i a
Borgevia wrote:Border conflicts over worshiping the same object? Either both societies have a horrible Anthropology/Sociology research team, unskilled diplomats, or both factions in your world are just not mentally developed enough to pick their fights.

So if powers aren't 100% inheritable, and there's some magical regulation on use of powers, I'm curious how these people live with those who don't have such abilities. Would it be like Augs vs unaugs in a Deus Ex universe? Or mutants vs non-mutants in the X-men world?


Borgovian emo culture of the 2000s and its late 2010s - 2020s revival was different than its European and North American counterpart. While NA/EU normally go for post-hardcore music like From First to Last or My Chemical Romance with a 'fashion' of its own, Borgovian emos have neither. Instead, "Emo culture" is more of a community of socially awkward outcasts and/or jaded people longing for somewhere to belong. There's no "emo" fashion in Borgovia other than tongue-in-cheek attire joking about being depressed like a kawaii cloud crying rain. Its music doesn't stay exclusively within the post-hardcore or pop punk genre like its more Northern neighbours, but instead, is more "lyrical". A Pop or Metal song can be emo if its lyrics is within that realm. With millennials being a very transphobic, First World-Saviour generation, "emo" also became a critique of how Millennials (and Gen Xers to an extent) have made an outcast out of Zoomers and Gen Alphas in the 2020s - 2030s with songs like "With You" about social rejects (non-whites/sinics, trans, non-binaries, those who don't fit Borgovia's beauty standards, etc):
Loneliness has been choking your breast,
Until you start to fear leaving the comfort of your nest.
Sometimes the fear of rejection won't go away,
You just don't talk, what will those people say?

No matter how hard you try,
You've hurt no one, yet people keep shoving you by.
And as you start to age and still feeling like this,
Your time running out, like smoke in the night's breeze.

Please don't give in to your pain, you can make it through.
Please come find us, we are family, we are with you.


Although, not all anti-Xers/Anti-Millennial social critique songs are "Emo". Some of Borgovia's Hardcore/Punk scene, which is essentially South America's preferred genre like how Nordics prefer Metal, have very angry and often aggressive lyrics about them like the following few verses from the song "Woke und Olden", essentially calling Milelnnials/Xers old people trying to be 'woke' but are causing more harm than good and are too stubborn to do self-reflection. Also a play on the Nazi term "Blut und boden":
"Unity!" oh wow you're so woke aren't you?
You may be anti-homophobia, but then you're anti-trans.
Your gatekeeping may be from a lack of awareness
But if it's empathy you seek go jump off a god damn bridge.

You think you're building a tolerant society, you bloody hypocrites
Trans brothers & sisters die while you score virtue brownie points!
Bombing brown people because "representation" won't sit that well with me,
Believing in Climate change while lenient to corpos spilling oil isn't how it has to be.

Up your fucking standards or get out!
This is the new millennium and you're getting in the way!


The latter, or should I say more like metas and normals of DCU because that's where I draw inspiration from. Amd it's not about regulations, more about a person's innate ability. Crystal's combat prowess is limited to melee attacks since she can't do much besides turn her skin diamond, while her daughter can not only do the same, but also shoot diamond bits from her hands, create weapons out of diamond, etc.

/Skip

PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:51 pm
by New Transeurasia
Borgevia wrote:Border conflicts over worshiping the same object? Either both societies have a horrible Anthropology/Sociology research team, unskilled diplomats, or both factions in your world are just not mentally developed enough to pick their fights.

So if powers aren't 100% inheritable, and there's some magical regulation on use of powers, I'm curious how these people live with those who don't have such abilities. Would it be like Augs vs unaugs in a Deus Ex universe? Or mutants vs non-mutants in the X-men world?


Borgovian emo culture of the 2000s and its late 2010s - 2020s revival was different than its European and North American counterpart. While NA/EU normally go for post-hardcore music like From First to Last or My Chemical Romance with a 'fashion' of its own, Borgovian emos have neither. Instead, "Emo culture" is more of a community of socially awkward outcasts and/or jaded people longing for somewhere to belong. There's no "emo" fashion in Borgovia other than tongue-in-cheek attire joking about being depressed like a kawaii cloud crying rain. Its music doesn't stay exclusively within the post-hardcore or pop punk genre like its more Northern neighbours, but instead, is more "lyrical". A Pop or Metal song can be emo if its lyrics is within that realm. With millennials being a very transphobic, First World-Saviour generation, "emo" also became a critique of how Millennials (and Gen Xers to an extent) have made an outcast out of Zoomers and Gen Alphas in the 2020s - 2030s with songs like "With You" about social rejects (non-whites/sinics, trans, non-binaries, those who don't fit Borgovia's beauty standards, etc):
Loneliness has been choking your breast,
Until you start to fear leaving the comfort of your nest.
Sometimes the fear of rejection won't go away,
You just don't talk, what will those people say?

No matter how hard you try,
You've hurt no one, yet people keep shoving you by.
And as you start to age and still feeling like this,
Your time running out, like smoke in the night's breeze.

Please don't give in to your pain, you can make it through.
Please come find us, we are family, we are with you.


Although, not all anti-Xers/Anti-Millennial social critique songs are "Emo". Some of Borgovia's Hardcore/Punk scene, which is essentially South America's preferred genre like how Nordics prefer Metal, have very angry and often aggressive lyrics about them like the following few verses from the song "Woke und Olden", essentially calling Milelnnials/Xers old people trying to be 'woke' but are causing more harm than good and are too stubborn to do self-reflection. Also a play on the Nazi term "Blut und boden":
"Unity!" oh wow you're so woke aren't you?
You may be anti-homophobia, but then you're anti-trans.
Your gatekeeping may be from a lack of awareness
But if it's empathy you seek go jump off a god damn bridge.

You think you're building a tolerant society, you bloody hypocrites
Trans brothers & sisters die while you score virtue brownie points!
Bombing brown people because "representation" won't sit that well with me,
Believing in Climate change while lenient to corpos spilling oil isn't how it has to be.

Up your fucking standards or get out!
This is the new millennium and you're getting in the way!

Kinda surprised about Millennials being anti-trans, but it makes sense for the time and culture.

Since the 1980s, the National Party has reduced taxes paid by removing some taxes entirely, and making up for the taxes by starting companies to compete with the private market. The constitution of 1983 was passed by the National Assembly, permitting the government to compete in the private market through companies, while also restricting the government from passing laws to give its own companies advantages over competitors. Some of the most successful examples of state-owned companies competing in the private market are NTŽD, which has become the leading rail operator in NT, Novoȟimikal, artificially producing oil, gas, and petroleum-based products, and Novostaĺ, one of the main steel producers in NT. For the most part, this has helped the economy grow faster, and brought more revenue to the national government, permitting the government to offer more services, such as a free healthcare system(NSZ) which competes with private healthcare systems and fix/reform some already-existing services, such as the outdated education system designed in the 1940s, and still being used up until 1989.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:27 pm
by North German Realm
No. No. Bad idea. State-funded companies shouldn't exist in a capitalist society. At least not in the context of "competes with the private sector". Any sector that has state-funded industries should be barred from private sector and vice versa.


The second Danish-Swedish War (also known as the war of Danish Succession) was fought between the Kingdom of Sweden (controlling modern Finland and Norway) and the Kingdom of Denmark between February 17 and 7 November 1914, but it had its origin in a little earlier. On 1894, the Kingdom of Denmark and the Kingdom of Sweden-Norway went to war over a diplomatic insult. Aided by North Germans, Denmark humiliated Sweden and even annexed Skåneland, a territory it had historically controlled earlier. Between 1895 and 1911 (when Denmark finally returned Skåneland in the Peace Conference of Vienna), Sweden (which had been particularly not in support of war throughout the last century) went through a national remilitarization and an atmosphere of irridentist nationalism took over. And then, in 1913 (after Sweden finally pacified Finland after 2 years of rebellions), it just so happened that Frederick VIII of Denmark passed away while on a trip in North Germany. Suddenly, the Swedish king claimed the throne of Denmark for himself and triggered the Scandinavian crisis of 1912-14. For two years, the two counties (and their respective allies) fought a diplomatic battle, their great power allies keen on not starting another war so soon after the Great War had ended. Eventually, Sweden invaded Denmark after a week-long ultimatum was refused in early 1914, but this was only after North Germany both claimed neutrality and agreed via a secret treaty not to defend their Danish allies in the event of war.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:44 pm
by North German Realm
/bump

PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:24 pm
by Borgevia
North German Realm wrote:No. No. Bad idea. State-funded companies shouldn't exist in a capitalist society. At least not in the context of "competes with the private sector". Any sector that has state-funded industries should be barred from private sector and vice versa.


The second Danish-Swedish War (also known as the war of Danish Succession) was fought between the Kingdom of Sweden (controlling modern Finland and Norway) and the Kingdom of Denmark between February 17 and 7 November 1914, but it had its origin in a little earlier. On 1894, the Kingdom of Denmark and the Kingdom of Sweden-Norway went to war over a diplomatic insult. Aided by North Germans, Denmark humiliated Sweden and even annexed Skåneland, a territory it had historically controlled earlier. Between 1895 and 1911 (when Denmark finally returned Skåneland in the Peace Conference of Vienna), Sweden (which had been particularly not in support of war throughout the last century) went through a national remilitarization and an atmosphere of irridentist nationalism took over. And then, in 1913 (after Sweden finally pacified Finland after 2 years of rebellions), it just so happened that Frederick VIII of Denmark passed away while on a trip in North Germany. Suddenly, the Swedish king claimed the throne of Denmark for himself and triggered the Scandinavian crisis of 1912-14. For two years, the two counties (and their respective allies) fought a diplomatic battle, their great power allies keen on not starting another war so soon after the Great War had ended. Eventually, Sweden invaded Denmark after a week-long ultimatum was refused in early 1914, but this was only after North Germany both claimed neutrality and agreed via a secret treaty not to defend their Danish allies in the event of war.


Given Denmark's geographic location and military asset, I'd say that's a bit of a loss. Then again, I don't know which great power sided with Sweden, if it's something like the Ottoman Empire then it can best be ignored as they're decaying in that time anyway.


Because of Borgovia's historic alliance in the Pacific, known as the "Pacific Shield" (Japan, China, Vietnam, Thailand, Borgovia, Paraguay, Bolivar Federation, Peru, Brazil, Guyana, and France), it managed to influence Asian countries with Latin culture and Borgovia in turn got influenced heavily by Eastern culture, especially Chinese, Japanese, and Thai who make up the bulk of Borgovia's "Oriental" immigrants. Today, their largest Eastern ethnic groups are Chinese, Japanese, and Indian in that order with Vietnamese & Koreans now out-populating Thai-Borgovians. China got booted after it became Communist in place of Taiwan (recognised as 'Republic of Taiwan' so they can also recognise the PRC as 'China' for diplomatic purposes) with Singapore, Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, & Philippines becoming new members post-Cold War.

What was originally founded as a Pro-French, anti-British military pact to curb the UK's growing power in Asia is now a "section" of NATO's 'three unofficial branches': The European Union Military Command, the Organisation of American States, and the "Pacific Shield" due to parallel interests against the Soviet Bloc which controlled most of the world's population and landmass. The "Pacific Shield" is now more than just a military and economic pact that help boosted allied states' economies and military cooperation, but it launched a program in 1986 for "Youth cultural exchange" so citizens of member states can send their children to study abroad, visa-free travel agreements for youth (later dismantled as all citizens of member states can enter without visas now), and since 1997, mandatory albeit brief history courses for all member states to encourage understanding and unity among its people. Borgovia stands to benefit the most as the country itself is nicknamed "Singapore of the West" with Latinos, Chinese, and Indians mixing their cultures into something familiar but also alien to visiting Chinese, Indian, or Latino visitors. For example: The 13th of July (Julius Caesar's birthday) and the 5th of July (Sun Quan's birthday) are known as "Creator's Half" where it's a 2-week long celebration of Borgovia's 2 largest demographics: Greco-Roman & Sinic peoples, both days are Federal holidays with some schools giving students those 2 whole week off. Borgovia export its mixed culture, including Chinese influenced pastas to Italianised Zaru noodles to its Pacific allies. It also is an easy market for Borgovia's sprawling Arts/Entertainment industry which unfortunately, influenced Korea's beauty-obsessed culture albeit much less extreme than Borgovia's (for example: Borgovians commit suicide over being 'skinny fat' while Koreans are just content fitting into size small clothing even if they have high body fat %).

PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:35 pm
by North German Realm
Borgevia wrote:
North German Realm wrote:No. No. Bad idea. State-funded companies shouldn't exist in a capitalist society. At least not in the context of "competes with the private sector". Any sector that has state-funded industries should be barred from private sector and vice versa.


The second Danish-Swedish War (also known as the war of Danish Succession) was fought between the Kingdom of Sweden (controlling modern Finland and Norway) and the Kingdom of Denmark between February 17 and 7 November 1914, but it had its origin in a little earlier. On 1894, the Kingdom of Denmark and the Kingdom of Sweden-Norway went to war over a diplomatic insult. Aided by North Germans, Denmark humiliated Sweden and even annexed Skåneland, a territory it had historically controlled earlier. Between 1895 and 1911 (when Denmark finally returned Skåneland in the Peace Conference of Vienna), Sweden (which had been particularly not in support of war throughout the last century) went through a national remilitarization and an atmosphere of irridentist nationalism took over. And then, in 1913 (after Sweden finally pacified Finland after 2 years of rebellions), it just so happened that Frederick VIII of Denmark passed away while on a trip in North Germany. Suddenly, the Swedish king claimed the throne of Denmark for himself and triggered the Scandinavian crisis of 1912-14. For two years, the two counties (and their respective allies) fought a diplomatic battle, their great power allies keen on not starting another war so soon after the Great War had ended. Eventually, Sweden invaded Denmark after a week-long ultimatum was refused in early 1914, but this was only after North Germany both claimed neutrality and agreed via a secret treaty not to defend their Danish allies in the event of war.


Given Denmark's geographic location and military asset, I'd say that's a bit of a loss. Then again, I don't know which great power sided with Sweden, if it's something like the Ottoman Empire then it can best be ignored as they're decaying in that time anyway.
The Scandinavian Succession Crisis had Britain siding with Sweden. We couldn't risk going to war with the UK again after the Great War had just ended a year earlier, which meant we had to make concessions. /skip

PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:32 am
by Tohorin Social Republic
Many alliances tend to outline the best and the worst cultural aspects of their respective peoples even if they manage cooperation and cultural ties. We'd still prefer mystery meat over blocks of rye bread and Soyuzmultifilm over killing one's self over beauty standards though. But hey, at least the Latinos aren't in the middle income trap.



The Cuban Revolution failed in 1959. The Tohorinese "revolution" succeeded the same year for similar causes...there was backlash against the government turning into a "Mafia State" with a reputation of being a "Cathouse" where foreign shareholders and companies held what were deemed as strategic national economic sectors, and anger over corruption and poverty. HOWEVER, the big difference was that there was no Ché Guevarra or Castro. Tohorin's coup came from a sector in the top, not from dissident rebels: disgruntled "new nationalist" junior military officers and "Old Guard" military aristocrats who lost their noble status and hellbent on regaining "honor" were the main actors.

The end result was that in it's initial phases the Tohorinese "Restoration" was seen as a neo-fascist hiccup worldwide which only appealed to ethno-nationalist romanticist history and it was purely emotional on hating the former Western Entente/Allied powers and Liberalism, with none of the popularity of leftist anti-imperialism like the case in Algeria, Vietnam or Angola. The fact that a coup collaborator, and a future General Secretary, was the actual son of an SS-Ahnenerbe ex-convict and that many of the "Old Guard" officers had ties to pre-War Italy didn't help our image.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:56 am
by The Burke Islands
I think it's good that you put revolution in quotations, it was definitely more a coup than anything. The inclusion of an actual, convicted Nazi doesn't help. I honestly feel bad for your nation's people, that's just a lot of misfortune.




For centuries, the indigenous people of the Burke Islands, the Inwi, have practiced a mostly unified brand of paganism known as Nanówanism, or simply Burkish Paganism. It is centered on the worship of a single, pantheistic, unknowable deity called Nanówa, also known as the All-Root and the Dirt-Mother by her followers. Although Nanówa physically exists as the trees, rivers, oceans, storms, sun, etc., she invites her children to sustain themselves using her "body" and her beastly creations. However, the act of chopping down a tree, burning a field, or polluting a river, should not be done lightly, as these acts physically pain Nanówa, and although her love is a great wellspring, and she understands that her children must sometimes harm her to survive, careless abuse of her will bring her wrath. Hunting animals, as well as raising them for livestock and agriculture, is acceptable in her eyes, as long as it is done for subsistence and not for sport or excess. Harming or killing another human is almost always unacceptable and sure to obtain her wrath. The only times killing another human is acceptable is in self-defense, defense of others, or in a just war.

Worship of Nanówa also involves being true to yourself, living as she has made you, as well as respecting those one may find strange; scholars have noted a unique, open-minded and tolerant attitude among her followers. Embracing who you are and living as the best version of yourself is key to pleasing Nanówa. A modern practice, even among those who do not practice Nanówanism, is choosing an animal to emulate. Wolves are considered the greatest of Nanówa's beasts, as they represent loyalty, perseverance, success, intuition, passion, and appetite for freedom to the Burkes. Other popular animals are the bear and the raven, the bear for its representation of industriousness, power, sovereignty, will, self-preservation, and great strength, and the raven for its representation of magic, introspection, self-realization, divination, and courage.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:25 am
by North German Realm
That's pretty awesome, not gonna lie. Mind you, I'm dubious about the existence of a monotheistic religion that doesn't have its origin in state-sanctioned reformation, but the existence of a mostly environmentalist (?) religion is pretty cool.


During the earlier stages of the post-war era (1942-1961), North German policy held that in the event of a war against the French (or preferably) a Dutch state, North Germany would demand their possessions in the Guyana Shield. While not necessarily a rich overseas territory, it was seen as important as a fallback port near the Caribbeans should North German possessions in the Virgin Islands or Reichshafen fall into American hands. It was theorized that North Germany would establish military bases (possibly even opening a new Jumpboard naval base in addition to a military camp and airfield) and not settle the area as it was policy in other overseas territories. When The Second French-American War came and North Germany succeeded in creating the Hague Treaty Organization, these projects were discarded in favor of ensuring France and the Netherlands would continue to have good relations with the North German State and continue holding on to said territories as North Germany was allowed to do exactly what it had planned in both territories once The Second French-American War ended.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:51 pm
by Kyria
I’m pleased to hear such a change in policy. A united Europe opposing American hegemony is something I’d love to see. But anyway, at least the Dutch or French weren’t humiliated any further and Norddeutschland didn’t expand its borders.
(Shameless advertisement of potential new canon. Link here.)

Infelia, the patron goddess of humanity, is the youngest daughter of Sol and Luna. Her birth was considered very bad by the gods and she was thus alienated by her siblings and parents for many millennia. She found solace in humanity, gifting the early humans knowledge and power over fire. She later became the goddess of civilisation, her sphere also including trickery and change. Her acceptance back into the fold of the gods is symbolised as the recognition of misfortune, disease, dishonesty and other ills as natural happenings in the universe vital to the advancement of all of creation.