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Nya Valhall
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Postby Nya Valhall » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:35 am

I don't entirely understand the difference, but I can applaud any decision that increases efficiency in industrial transportation.

Automation as we know it in New Valhalla came as a natural result of the process of making battle-droids. The latest operational models that were not qualified for military-grade deployment were tested, and rejected, around 2004. While most of these droids were discarded and recycled by the companies producing them, one of the corporations working on developing the droids decided to put the discarded droid (after removing its military equipment) to auction. The company that bought it was Valþórsen FmTÁ., a weapons manufacturing company in Hvalurvík, New Viken, which put up an order of 500 droids from the same model to replace its only company's workers. The company's quality of produce and the rate at which it produced its weapons increased dramatically, and the 500 employees took the company to court. The case in question was debated by judges for three years, and it was eventually decided that the company was in the right. Valþórsen FmTÁ. was until late 2014 the only company to be automatized however, because most larger companies were worried that should they take the next step, a popular initiative led by the people made unemployed would just flat-out ban automation in reaction.
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Nýr Dagblað: New Mercia begins the process of demobilization, delivers former president Moonsbert to be tried and punished by New Valhaller Laws as peace negotiations begin in Boston. | Angland accepts to hold independence plebiscite in its overseas territory of New East Anglia after 12 weeks of protests. | War breaks out in the Latin League as Francia, Western Rome fight against Rome, Italy! Experts question Roman motive, given the recent reignition of the Conflicts in Rome. | CNA ships seize another Antillean civilian ship Imperial Georgia off the coast of New Ossonoba.

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Postby Coryanhafflaruda » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:43 am

Mhm, seems like we developed droids far ahead of our time!


Fall of Terra

After the foundation of the Hallacoryan Imperium, a new capital have been planned to replaced Terra; A bustling population filled with death and poverty, only being a pain to the Imperium's economy, they stripped the planets resources for further construction of the new capital and forced people who can't even afford interstellar travel to move out, those who didn't will left to rot in the abandoned planet with no food and hope. And so, Terra was left abandoned for the entirety of the Hallacoryan period going into the intoparasitic era where the parasites ignored Terra due to being empty of hosts.
Terra decayed until it was destoryed by the second extinction of the parasites where it was accidentally blown up by the Precursors. The only memory to the planet are a few historical and technological records about the planet which is stored in here and the archives.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:53 am

Well that shows the minor concern of unemployment is justified. The real question is what's keeping the robots from saying "fuck this, I'm taking over" and screwing over YN's humans or whatever your people's species are?

That's way to negative and pessimistic for my taste. How did Earth get that way tho?

Aside from their pins, noble families have different costume sets. Novoluniye men wear suits and shirts with a red and black colour scheme while their women wear party dresses, also with black and red colour scheme, Huang-Ahn men and women wear lab coats on the outside and clothing with blue and green colour scheme underneath, and so on. While this is mostly an OOC cue to let the audience know who's working for who, the IC justification is that those families have different jurisdictions. The Novoluniye run the nightlife, the Huang-Ahn run the hospitals, the Ramadhan run the banks, the Poornachandra run the farms, and so forth.
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Postby Coryanhafflaruda » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:58 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
That's way to negative and pessimistic for my taste. How did Earth get that way tho?



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Well basically Earth didn't recovered much of its Third World War and since most states were basically crippled enough to do anything, a bunch of confederations of Megacoorporations tried to take power which resulted in another collapse leading to a new world order to be founded decades after.

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Postby Nya Valhall » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:06 am

A m e n r i a wrote:Well that shows the minor concern of unemployment is justified. The real question is what's keeping the robots from saying "fuck this, I'm taking over" and screwing over YN's humans or whatever your people's species are?
The lack of AI. The robots are literally just mindless drones that can follow basic instructions. /skip
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Nýr Dagblað: New Mercia begins the process of demobilization, delivers former president Moonsbert to be tried and punished by New Valhaller Laws as peace negotiations begin in Boston. | Angland accepts to hold independence plebiscite in its overseas territory of New East Anglia after 12 weeks of protests. | War breaks out in the Latin League as Francia, Western Rome fight against Rome, Italy! Experts question Roman motive, given the recent reignition of the Conflicts in Rome. | CNA ships seize another Antillean civilian ship Imperial Georgia off the coast of New Ossonoba.

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Postby Swindenland » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:22 am

A m e n r i a wrote:Well that shows the minor concern of unemployment is justified. The real question is what's keeping the robots from saying "fuck this, I'm taking over" and screwing over YN's humans or whatever your people's species are?

That's way to negative and pessimistic for my taste. How did Earth get that way tho?

Aside from their pins, noble families have different costume sets. Novoluniye men wear suits and shirts with a red and black colour scheme while their women wear party dresses, also with black and red colour scheme, Huang-Ahn men and women wear lab coats on the outside and clothing with blue and green colour scheme underneath, and so on. While this is mostly an OOC cue to let the audience know who's working for who, the IC justification is that those families have different jurisdictions. The Novoluniye run the nightlife, the Huang-Ahn run the hospitals, the Ramadhan run the banks, the Poornachandra run the farms, and so forth.


That sounds awful, because clothing has enforced many caste systems and a lot of discrimination across history. Either everyone is dressed the same or all differently, preferably the latter. The fact that noble families inherit certain state functions is incredibly unfair and inefficient, because nobody chooses whom he is born to and birth never determines merit. This religious monarchy is condemnable.

Swindenland is a irreligious state that aggressively discourages religion and superstition at home and actively supports humanist and atheist movements elsewhere.
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Postby Iransahr » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:36 am

I doubt that puts Swindenland in the good graces of some nations, particularly those devoted to religious freedoms or their own identities. I’m personally sceptical of this policy, to be honest, it sounds like nothing more than one power trying to push others around. Though I can see the reasoning behind it and I may support it in some circumstances.
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Postby Skolipendra Organization » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:02 am

Swindenland wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:Well that shows the minor concern of unemployment is justified. The real question is what's keeping the robots from saying "fuck this, I'm taking over" and screwing over YN's humans or whatever your people's species are?

That's way to negative and pessimistic for my taste. How did Earth get that way tho?

Aside from their pins, noble families have different costume sets. Novoluniye men wear suits and shirts with a red and black colour scheme while their women wear party dresses, also with black and red colour scheme, Huang-Ahn men and women wear lab coats on the outside and clothing with blue and green colour scheme underneath, and so on. While this is mostly an OOC cue to let the audience know who's working for who, the IC justification is that those families have different jurisdictions. The Novoluniye run the nightlife, the Huang-Ahn run the hospitals, the Ramadhan run the banks, the Poornachandra run the farms, and so forth.


To me, that sounds awful, because clothing has enforced many caste systems and discriminations across history. Either everyone is dressed the same or all differently, preferably the latter. That noble families inherit certain state functions is incredibly unfair and inefficient, because nobody chooses to whom he is born and birth never determines merit. This religious monarchy is condemnable.

Swindenland is a irreligious state that aggressively discourages religion and superstition at home and actively supports humanist and atheist movements elsewhere.


Our Branch Commander of the Middle East, Anisa Al-Samad, would love your nation. My own opinions are a little more complicated... I won't get into that, this isn't General. And if it was I wouldn't be posting.

EDIT: Is that a Vampire: the Masquerade/World of Darkness thing? Because that sounds an awful lot like Vampire: the Masquerade. Alright, with that out of the way... it's kind of cool they can trace it back to Mesopotamia. Mesopotamia was cool. And the vampire thing... vampires are cool too. I've seen a few vampire nations on NS, but not many... especially not lately.




Historically, the Skolipendra Organization's favorite and most important ally on Earth was the Soviet Union. The Skolipendra Organization had some hand in its founding, providing the revolutionaries with aid, intelligence, and some minor combat support through sending our sleeper agents. After the February Revolution we had to withdraw our support, however, due to dire need of supplies and manpower elsewhere. The Skolipendra Organization would continue to support the USSR for as long as it existed, believing the Soviet Union to be ideologically suited to be the central point for the beginning of a global technocratic union, thus most of this support was given without the expectation of getting anything in return. It was also all done in secret; the Soviet Union never knew they had supernatural supporters from another world, let alone the untold numbers of agents who would be helping them throughout the Cold War for this power.

The most notable times the Organization has helped the USSR, in which the Organization actually sent agents to fight, include the Spanish Civil War, in which agents of the Skolipendra Organization helped the USSR-backed Spanish Republicans, while disguised as soldiers of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet-Afghan War, in which agents provided as much support as they could to the Soviets and the communist Afghani government.

Following the fall of the Soviet Union, the Skolipendra Organization has had little direction or idea of what to do on Earth, no longer having a strong ideological superpower partner to consistently back while quietly trying to push them towards the Organization's technocratic goals. The Organization silently smuggled countless Soviet hardware off of Earth, and created a black market throughout the other planes for Kalashnikov rifles, but their actual plans on Earth have become despondent, desperately looking for a successor to the Soviet Union, while sadly mourning the death of their beloved ally who was to be the beacon for their technocratic-socialist movement.
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Postby Caed Volokichia » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:23 am

Historically, the Skolipendra Organization's favorite and most important ally on Earth was the Soviet Union. The Skolipendra Organization had some hand in its founding, providing the revolutionaries with aid, intelligence, and some minor combat support through sending our sleeper agents. After the February Revolution we had to withdraw our support, however, due to dire need of supplies and manpower elsewhere. The Skolipendra Organization would continue to support the USSR for as long as it existed, believing the Soviet Union to be ideologically suited to be the central point for the beginning of a global technocratic union, thus most of this support was given without the expectation of getting anything in return. It was also all done in secret; the Soviet Union never knew they had supernatural supporters from another world, let alone the untold numbers of agents who would be helping them throughout the Cold War for this power.

The most notable times the Organization has helped the USSR, in which the Organization actually sent agents to fight, include the Spanish Civil War, in which agents of the Skolipendra Organization helped the USSR-backed Spanish Republicans, while disguised as soldiers of the Soviet Union, and the Soviet-Afghan War, in which agents provided as much support as they could to the Soviets and the communist Afghani government.

Following the fall of the Soviet Union, the Skolipendra Organization has had little direction or idea of what to do on Earth, no longer having a strong ideological superpower partner to consistently back while quietly trying to push them towards the Organization's technocratic goals. The Organization silently smuggled countless Soviet hardware off of Earth, and created a black market throughout the other planes for Kalashnikov rifles, but their actual plans on Earth have become despondent, desperately looking for a successor to the Soviet Union, while sadly mourning the death of their beloved ally who was to be the beacon for their technocratic-socialist movement.
Post by Iransahr » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:36 am

I doubt that puts Swindenland in the good graces of some nations, particularly those devoted to religious freedoms or their own identities. I’m personally sceptical of this policy, to be honest, it sounds like nothing more than one power trying to push others around. Though I can see the reasoning behind it and I may support it in some circumstances.


That... is cool as fuck. I love the shadow-organisation as a nation thing and I am just about to read your entire nation-page. Caed Volokichia on the other hand would, if they knew of this information, be terrified of the prospect of an organisation having such control over a nation and would further spark the increasingly strong anarchistic sentiments growing amongst the populace. Grand Prince Vighaul would likely be quite ambivalent.

An interesting fact about Caed Volokichia is the official and dominant perspective on the black market amongst the lower-house of the state-apparatus. This perspective is that if the state cannot fulfill an individuals need or wants they are welcome to work amongst each other to find it--as long as it is consensual. If an individual must resort to the black market to satisfy themselves then that is a shortcoming of the state, not the individual. Their only problem is when it gets too organised and exploitative in which case they clamp down hard, ritually sacrificing or torturing those at the heads of these "black-corporations".

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Postby Nya Valhall » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:34 am

I'm not sure you know what a "black market" really is. Black markets are, by definition, illicit. If the state doesn't illegalize "most" of the black market, then the "Black Market" is only those parts that the state does clamp down on, that is to say ritually sacrificing or torturing its ring-leaders.


A number of 1,433,006 (31% of the population) follows the Old Ways, that is to say Nordic Paganism, typically known as Ásatrú. The reason that the number is that high (relatively speaking) is that New Valhalla was pretty much completely pagan until approximately 1630, and its pagan population was still impressively high during the period we were under Anglish colonial rule. It was only after 1683 and the annexation of New Valhalla into Dania that we took Christianity. The reason why the number is so low is because the religion had no official status until the 1930s and the country was influenced heavily by Dane missionaries during the Colonial period (despite our treaties with them that explicitly barred this very thing). Christianity began losing its majority (in 1910, the country was 75% Christian) after the Great War ended, though it is still the larger religious group in the country with 2,094,039 followers (45.3%).
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Nýr Dagblað: New Mercia begins the process of demobilization, delivers former president Moonsbert to be tried and punished by New Valhaller Laws as peace negotiations begin in Boston. | Angland accepts to hold independence plebiscite in its overseas territory of New East Anglia after 12 weeks of protests. | War breaks out in the Latin League as Francia, Western Rome fight against Rome, Italy! Experts question Roman motive, given the recent reignition of the Conflicts in Rome. | CNA ships seize another Antillean civilian ship Imperial Georgia off the coast of New Ossonoba.

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Postby Gylthas » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:37 am

A cultural and spiritual revival to the pagan ways. Love it.




The United Thanedoms of Dragvenhelm is the only nation in our world to operate a battleship in this day and age of guided missiles and aircraft carriers. The battleship they operate is the Regar. She is armed with eight 457 mm guns, four 127 mm naval guns, 30 mm rotary autocannon CIWS systems, launchers for anti-ship missiles, VLS cells for anti-aircraft missiles, anti-submarine missiles and anti-missile missiles, and anti-submarine torpedoes. Armour values is comparable to that of the Yamato-class, while armour steel quality is comparable to that of the Bismarck-class.

With the rather recent successes of the Gylthan Navy, the Dragvenish navy top brass is considering lending Regar to the Gylthan Navy, in gratitude to Gylthas building them an aircraft carrier and in a sign of good faith. They considered that Ahasar has very good anti-landing defences, and figured that a battleship would be perfect for flattening them out.
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Postby Caed Volokichia » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:42 am

Nya Valhall wrote:I'm not sure you know what a "black market" really is. Black markets are, by definition, illicit. If the state doesn't illegalize "most" of the black market, then the "Black Market" is only those parts that the state does clamp down on, that is to say ritually sacrificing or torturing its ring-leaders.


A number of 1,433,006 (31% of the population) follows the Old Ways, that is to say Nordic Paganism, typically known as Ásatrú. The reason that the number is that high (relatively speaking) is that New Valhalla was pretty much completely pagan until approximately 1630, and its pagan population was still impressively high during the period we were under Anglish colonial rule. It was only after 1683 and the annexation of New Valhalla into Dania that we took Christianity. The reason why the number is so low is because the religion had no official status until the 1930s and the country was influenced heavily by Dane missionaries during the Colonial period (despite our treaties with them that explicitly barred this very thing). Christianity began losing its majority (in 1910, the country was 75% Christian) after the Great War ended, though it is still the larger religious group in the country with 2,094,039 followers (45.3%).

It's technically illegal it's just not really enforced.

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Postby Moscareinas » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:12 am

A battleship, huh, and the flagship for that matter... unfortunately I can't really comment on that, as I'm not a ship buff, save that even adjusting for technological advances, it still seems to be a sitting duck in a naval fight.



The first three months of the year 2020 (between January 22 and March 15) has been one of unprecedented sociopolitical upheaval due to the introduction of the SARS-CoV2 pathogen to the archipelago, with 32 sitting MPs, including then-current Democratic Progressive prime minister Evangeline K. McDowell and post-independence Moscareinas' first prime minister and former MP for Lago Salgado Lucas Reyes dying within its borders, and the well-decorated and ever-popular Madelynn Tourer, the 80-year-old former chairwoman of the Moscan Conservative Party and former MP of Lepre-Duxulny, dying in Venice where she was to attend a symposium on human rights, unwittingly becoming patient zero of the outbreak in northern Italy.

By February 2, acting on the still-living McDowell's advice and his own constitutional authority, President A. Gunaserakan declared a state of calamity, dissolved the Pale, activated the Commonwealth-era Extraordinary Industry Act, temporarily subjecting various private industries to government control for the first time since the Second World War, and called for new elections after 30 days; the delay took account of the move to completely online government transactions, including online elections, the first in Moscan history.

In the meantime, a quarantine was imposed on the entirety of the Aurora and Tago Gracias archipelagoes the next day, and on the island of Reuniaõ on February 14 upon word of the first ten cases of the disease in the island; the rest of the archipelago was subjected to strict border controls, including preventive 14-day quarantine of all individuals coming in, in an effort to prevent the spread of the pathogen to those parts.

After a 3-day delay to mourn Tourer's death in Venice (on the morning of March 3, the projected election day), the Moscan online elections proceeded apace; the dominant six-year alliance between the Democratic Progressives and Moscan Greens, rocked by accusations of incompetence in handling the crisis, blamed for the loss of so much of the country's leadership, and able only to field another former prime minister in Lawrence Bigtree, Green MP for Sao André and long rumored to be Tourer's lover, lost more than half of its 64 seats (with the Greens losing all 18 of its seats altogether) to the surging Conservatives under the leadership of the 36-year-old Sabrina Isola Bright-Ajami, MP for Moroni and one of the ubiquitous Tourer's younger protegés, capturing all Green constituencies and all but one seat previously held by the Democratic Progressives.
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Postby Riria » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:58 am

I think that the AN handled the sudden death of many of its political figures fairly well, that they were justified to use more authoritarian measures to rectify things, and while I'm not a huge fan of online voting in general, it was definitely the best way to go about doing things here. Now I'm not going to pretend that I'm happy about the election results and I think the political sphere and party lines that emerged in the end are inferior to the 2019 ones, but as they were arrived at through a necessary procedure and a valid process, that is neither here nor there.



In Riria, like in the US, individual states can decide for themselves whether to grant inmates the right to vote or not. Currently they are allowed to do so in 4 out of the 6 Wings, totaling roughly two thirds of the population.
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Postby Nya Valhall » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:25 am

Riria wrote:I think that the AN handled the sudden death of many of its political figures fairly well, that they were justified to use more authoritarian measures to rectify things, and while I'm not a huge fan of online voting in general, it was definitely the best way to go about doing things here. Now I'm not going to pretend that I'm happy about the election results and I think the political sphere and party lines that emerged in the end are inferior to the 2019 ones, but as they were arrived at through a necessary procedure and a valid process, that is neither here nor there.



In Riria, like in the US, individual states can decide for themselves whether to grant inmates the right to vote or not. Currently they are allowed to do so in 4 out of the 6 Wings, totaling roughly two thirds of the population.

Despicable, disenfranchisement shouldn't be legal anywhere. At least most of your states are civilized.

A number of 1,433,006 (31% of the population) follows the Old Ways, that is to say Nordic Paganism, typically known as Ásatrú. The reason that the number is that high (relatively speaking) is that New Valhalla was pretty much completely pagan until approximately 1630, and its pagan population was still impressively high during the period we were under Anglish colonial rule. It was only after 1683 and the annexation of New Valhalla into Dania that we took Christianity. The reason why the number is so low is because the religion had no official status until the 1930s and the country was influenced heavily by Dane missionaries during the Colonial period (despite our treaties with them that explicitly barred this very thing). Christianity began losing its majority (in 1910, the country was 75% Christian) after the Great War ended, though it is still the larger religious group in the country with 2,094,039 followers (45.3%).
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Nýr Dagblað: New Mercia begins the process of demobilization, delivers former president Moonsbert to be tried and punished by New Valhaller Laws as peace negotiations begin in Boston. | Angland accepts to hold independence plebiscite in its overseas territory of New East Anglia after 12 weeks of protests. | War breaks out in the Latin League as Francia, Western Rome fight against Rome, Italy! Experts question Roman motive, given the recent reignition of the Conflicts in Rome. | CNA ships seize another Antillean civilian ship Imperial Georgia off the coast of New Ossonoba.

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Postby Riria » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:39 am

Nya Valhall wrote:Despicable, disenfranchisement shouldn't be legal anywhere. At least most of your states are civilized.


All the following will be stated OOC (as in this is my real life honest position on the subject):
I designed Riria as a confederacy where there are a small number of universal federal laws with blanket enforcement, and a large number of laws that only apply on a state by state basis. The catch is that all those latter laws get created solely through Referendum. As much as on a personal level I am strongly in favor of enfranchising inmates, I have an even stronger belief that I should respect democratically validated policies, no matter how much they go against my own principles.

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Postby Godular » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:01 pm

Valhalla always struck me as more interesting than plain ol' boring heaven anyway.




The Godulan Starspider is a form of highly advanced siege droid, and possesses a rather impressive array of weapons and capabilities that specifically relate to its mission of breaking both fortifications and enemy formations. It stands approximately 50-meters tall when fully deployed, and has the appearance of a wicked looking scorpion when in full combat mode (The Godulans went with StarSPIDER just because it rolled off the tongue more easily).

During the insertion phase, it appears roughly like a giant spiked wheel rolling of its own volition, and moves with remarkable agility given its immense size. This allows it to present a smaller targeting profile during insertion, and though it primarily focuses on ground-based travel the Starspider is perfectly capable of flight, and will often juke to avoid incoming fire with surprising agility.

During deployment, the Starspider uncoils to reveal razor-sharp legs, two pincer arms equipped with a pair of capital-class Fractal Guns (which can also be rotated around to reveal a capital class Protium Arc Disintegrator, as the Godulans prize flexibility), and a tail possessing both a dedicated assault cannon and a grappling apparatus with sufficient strength and dexterity to grab enemy vehicles and either send them flying into the sky or other enemy vehicles. Starspiders are possessed of shielding and armor that makes them capable of easily withstanding even the occasional concentrated salvo of an enemy capital ship (and of sufficient armament to respond in kind), are able to burrow, and seem to possess some form of mechanoid martial art that takes full advantage of their structure, weapons, and mobility.

They are employed as the primary form of armored support and assault for the Ascension, but can also be found adding additional fire-capacity to Godulan combat vessels of the non-holographic variety.

(short version: Imagine a droideka from star wars, turned into something capable of going toe-to-toe with Godzilla)
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Postby The Empire of Occitania » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:54 pm

Well these Starspiders certainly sound intimidating (and not just because I really don't like spiders), but they really don't sound all that practical. Considering your nation's technology, what can Starspiders achieve that much smaller and cheaper independent weapon systems can't?


Whilst Occitania venerates competitive spirits, individualism, and liberty as core national values, the core values of the Occitan people are perhaps best described by the concept of paratge. The components of paratge are: honour, civility, tolerance, right living, balance, courtesy, excellence, grace and nobility of soul.

Honour: The worth or status of individuals or communities according to the degree to which their lives reflect the norms that they hold in great significance and value. For the people of Occitania, this often means the degree to which they adhere to the other principles of paratge.
Civility: Civilised conduct. Politeness towards others even when in disagreement.
Tolerance: Essentially, freedom from bigotry. To have a permissive and fair attitude toward others whose opinions, practices, race, religion, gender, or nationality differ from one's own.
Right Living: Doing what is right because it is consistent with a higher set of values (such as paratge), rather than shunning what is right for immediate advantage, or simply because you can get away with it.
Balance: A state of equilibrium. The avoidance of excess. A condition of being in harmony with the universe.
Courtesy: Gentle politeness and courtly manners.
Excellence: The pursuit of a talent, skill, or quality that so surpasses the ordinary as to set a standard to which people can aspire.
Grace: Elegance or beauty of form, movement or manner. The charm and courtliness of the Occitan people is an expression of grace.
Nobility of Soul: The refusal to yield to the forces of chaos or evil, and to defend cherished virtues even when facing overwhelming odds. The Finnish concept of sisu is very similar to this.
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Postby Godular » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:33 am

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They aren’t often used anymore for much that reason. They have been largely moved over to the Ascension as a form of assault support unit and mobile artillery, as well as adding an additional layer of combat power to a material vessel like a Replication Array, Dawnrunner Replication Barge, or Ascension Raider.

Its more focused on the idea of heavy weapons availability in more locations, with minimal transport and setup time.

If ya’ve any other questions, TG me.

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Postby Nya Valhall » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:24 pm

The Empire of Occitania wrote:Whilst Occitania venerates competitive spirits, individualism, and liberty as core national values, the core values of the Occitan people are perhaps best described by the concept of paratge. The components of paratge are: honour, civility, tolerance, right living, balance, courtesy, excellence, grace and nobility of soul.

Honour: The worth or status of individuals or communities according to the degree to which their lives reflect the norms that they hold in great significance and value. For the people of Occitania, this often means the degree to which they adhere to the other principles of paratge.
Civility: Civilised conduct. Politeness towards others even when in disagreement.
Tolerance: Essentially, freedom from bigotry. To have a permissive and fair attitude toward others whose opinions, practices, race, religion, gender, or nationality differ from one's own.
Right Living: Doing what is right because it is consistent with a higher set of values (such as paratge), rather than shunning what is right for immediate advantage, or simply because you can get away with it.
Balance: A state of equilibrium. The avoidance of excess. A condition of being in harmony with the universe.
Courtesy: Gentle politeness and courtly manners.
Excellence: The pursuit of a talent, skill, or quality that so surpasses the ordinary as to set a standard to which people can aspire.
Grace: Elegance or beauty of form, movement or manner. The charm and courtliness of the Occitan people is an expression of grace.
Nobility of Soul: The refusal to yield to the forces of chaos or evil, and to defend cherished virtues even when facing overwhelming odds. The Finnish concept of sisu is very similar to this.

Most of these are nice virtues, even if kinda hypocritical for a Colonial Empire with a history of divide and conquer. Are these your version of the Prussian Virtues?

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I think mainstream Christianity is pagan anyway. Saturnalia was the basis of Christmas according to the records of the Catholic Church so if I'm in charge, I'll just group them into one "Pagan" religious group.

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Postby Nya Valhall » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:19 am

Greater Seludong wrote:I think mainstream Christianity is pagan anyway. Saturnalia was the basis of Christmas according to the records of the Catholic Church so if I'm in charge, I'll just group them into one "Pagan" religious group.
Given we define paganism as "not one of a small number of 'mainstream/accepted religions", Christianity is decidedly not pagan. Especially since it's not polytheistic which is pretty much a necessity for any religion to be pagan. And Saturnalia wasn't the "basis" of Christmas. The Feast of Sol Invictus and Yule were. /skip
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Postby Borgevia » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:04 pm

Greater Seludong wrote:I think mainstream Christianity is pagan anyway. Saturnalia was the basis of Christmas according to the records of the Catholic Church so if I'm in charge, I'll just group them into one "Pagan" religious group.

The Federal State of Palaos (OTL Palau) is a federal first-level administrative division of the Federal Republic of Filipinas. Its history is actually a bit weird because it was already part of the Captaincy General of Filipinas (controlled by Spain) at the time that it was discovered (therefore re-discovered?). It was due to a group of Palawanos (not to be confused Palaweño, inhabitants of Palawan island, the western island of Filipinas, just by Kalayaan/Spratly Islands), being shipwrecked on the island of Samar (in the eastern part of Filipinas).


So, are they or are they not technically "Natives" of your country's founding region? It is weird.


"It's in the name" was one of the weirdest internet event in 2020. It started when a Borgovian Twitter user tweeted "Idk why seppos think they're so great. Britain is Great, not America. It's in the name". It started some fight with US Republicans, leading to Borgovians repeatedly say "It's in the name". Something like:

American: We're the majority of NATO's power, we're a larger economy, more tech innovation. Of course we're better than Britain.
Borgovian: Yes, but you're not great. Britain is. It's in the fucking name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
American: So you're saying names have no meaning then.
Borgovian: Wtf? Of course it does, it's in the name.
British: Actually, we're not called 'Great Britain' because of glory, it's geographic as "Greater Brittany"
Borgovian: So, Britain is still great? It's in the name.

Over time, British users and others, including Americans on the joke, just sorta jumped in and began making jokes of other countries not being as Great as Britain because it's in the name. They turned to making fun of Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" because "America was never great. If Britain renamed itself, then it makes sense to say Make Britain Great Again, because Britain was Great before a hypothetical name change. It's in the name". They'll also say things like "Fuck Northern Ireland, we left them out because they're not great. United, but not great. It's in the name", or "Imagine being the Center of the World, China, Zhongguo, "Middle Country", but not Great like Britain. It's in the name". It also started an argument about Northern Ireland, some saying it is great because "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" implies Britain AND Northern Ireland is Great. While others say only Britain is great, and Ireland is just Northern.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:57 am

Borgevia wrote:
Greater Seludong wrote:I think mainstream Christianity is pagan anyway. Saturnalia was the basis of Christmas according to the records of the Catholic Church so if I'm in charge, I'll just group them into one "Pagan" religious group.

The Federal State of Palaos (OTL Palau) is a federal first-level administrative division of the Federal Republic of Filipinas. Its history is actually a bit weird because it was already part of the Captaincy General of Filipinas (controlled by Spain) at the time that it was discovered (therefore re-discovered?). It was due to a group of Palawanos (not to be confused Palaweño, inhabitants of Palawan island, the western island of Filipinas, just by Kalayaan/Spratly Islands), being shipwrecked on the island of Samar (in the eastern part of Filipinas).


So, are they or are they not technically "Natives" of your country's founding region? It is weird.


"It's in the name" was one of the weirdest internet event in 2020. It started when a Borgovian Twitter user tweeted "Idk why seppos think they're so great. Britain is Great, not America. It's in the name". It started some fight with US Republicans, leading to Borgovians repeatedly say "It's in the name". Something like:

American: We're the majority of NATO's power, we're a larger economy, more tech innovation. Of course we're better than Britain.
Borgovian: Yes, but you're not great. Britain is. It's in the fucking name like Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
American: So you're saying names have no meaning then.
Borgovian: Wtf? Of course it does, it's in the name.
British: Actually, we're not called 'Great Britain' because of glory, it's geographic as "Greater Brittany"
Borgovian: So, Britain is still great? It's in the name.

Over time, British users and others, including Americans on the joke, just sorta jumped in and began making jokes of other countries not being as Great as Britain because it's in the name. They turned to making fun of Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" because "America was never great. If Britain renamed itself, then it makes sense to say Make Britain Great Again, because Britain was Great before a hypothetical name change. It's in the name". They'll also say things like "Fuck Northern Ireland, we left them out because they're not great. United, but not great. It's in the name", or "Imagine being the Center of the World, China, Zhongguo, "Middle Country", but not Great like Britain. It's in the name". It also started an argument about Northern Ireland, some saying it is great because "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" implies Britain AND Northern Ireland is Great. While others say only Britain is great, and Ireland is just Northern.

Make America Great Britain again.

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