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by Inkopolitia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:03 pm
by Skyhooked » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:28 pm
by Ikuisuus » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:43 pm
by The Fylkirate » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:47 pm
Nothing Yet.
by Inkopolitia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:04 pm
by Wawakanatote » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:34 pm
The Fylkirate wrote:Monogamy as a concept does not exist in the Continent of Ignus. Of course, monogamous people (who share their intimate life with only a single person) exist, but the idea that intimacy belongs only between couples is something that is not comprehended in any culture in Ignus. That said, most of the cultures in Ignus are not polygamous either. In Sol -supported by the Hyaran Faith- concubinage exists. I would say the concubines were in a lower position than the spouse, but women in general have so few rights that the distinction between the positions is literally just a technicality. In Bukari, the Regnant Queen has the right to take consorts in addition to her Grand Prince (the Queen's Spouse), and the consort's only difference with the Grand Prince is that their children -while considered royal- are disqualified from succession (concubinage is banned across the board, and consortage for all who are not the Regnant Queen).
The Norden Tribes are polygamous in that the consorts/concubines -at least where you can find them- are normally considered equal members in a clan. This becomes even more relevant because marriage as a concept is shaky in the Norden society as it is, even without considering non-marital forms of intimacy.
OOC Factbook
Pro: Marxism-Leninism
Anti: Capitalism, Fascism
We do not exist under communism, but under the
primary stage of socialist development (nep/state capitalism)
Please adjust accordingly
Full Nation Name: Supranational Union of Socialist Republics
Government: Federal Intergovernmental P&E Union
Political Leaders: C.Song Liyuan, V.C.Lev Bronshtein
National Anthem: "Hymn of the Union"
by Inkopolitia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:15 pm
Wawakanatote wrote:The Fylkirate wrote:Monogamy as a concept does not exist in the Continent of Ignus. Of course, monogamous people (who share their intimate life with only a single person) exist, but the idea that intimacy belongs only between couples is something that is not comprehended in any culture in Ignus. That said, most of the cultures in Ignus are not polygamous either. In Sol -supported by the Hyaran Faith- concubinage exists. I would say the concubines were in a lower position than the spouse, but women in general have so few rights that the distinction between the positions is literally just a technicality. In Bukari, the Regnant Queen has the right to take consorts in addition to her Grand Prince (the Queen's Spouse), and the consort's only difference with the Grand Prince is that their children -while considered royal- are disqualified from succession (concubinage is banned across the board, and consortage for all who are not the Regnant Queen).
The Norden Tribes are polygamous in that the consorts/concubines -at least where you can find them- are normally considered equal members in a clan. This becomes even more relevant because marriage as a concept is shaky in the Norden society as it is, even without considering non-marital forms of intimacy.
The bit on the rights of women kind of suck tbh. Though it's interesting that your society, in particular your royals, have chosen a system of concubinage over monogamy or polygamy - is this so that they expand their family bloodlines?
AN:
This educational system seems better than the in real life version we have today, but I do have some questions such as, "why do you shave off so many years towards the end of school?" and "do the children go into the workforce directly after completing school?"
The Song-Fan Dynasty is a very powerful and influential family in the realms of governance, business, and entertainment throughout the countries of the Supranational Union, but specifically in China and most of East Asia, dating back to Fan Zhongshu (1897-1947), a journalist and a supporter of the Chinese Revolution, and Song Chiang (1898-1963), a wealthy Hong Kong industrialist. The oldest living member of this family is Fan Ching-kuo (110), the former Chairman of Shaanxi Yanchang Petroleum, who is also the grandfather of Song Liyuan (48), the Chairwoman of the Council of Democrats, and the great-great grandfather of Song Mei (1), the youngest member of the family.
The Song-Fan Dynasty is a very influential and powerful family within the spheres of politics, business, and entertainment throughout the Supranational Union, specifically in China and most of East Asia.
The current incarnation of the family dates back to the tail-end of the late 19th century with the births of Song Chiang, a wealthy Hong Kong industrialist, in 1898 and Fan Zhongzhu, a Chinese journalist and later supporter of the Chinese Revolution, in 1897. These lines would be continued by Fan Zhen-kang in 1921 and Song Hanying in 1926, both as members of the Chinese government with the former as a bureaucrat and the later as a financial adviser.
By the time of their deaths, the next generation was continued on through Song Ju-yin in 1951, the younger daughter of Song Hanying, and Fan Ching-kuo, the younger son of Fan Zhen-kang, in 1952 with the latter still alive at 110, which has allowed them to see the next four generations that initially saw the two families merge in the early 21st century with the marriage between Song Zhi and Fan Zedong - who would later give birth to Song Liyuan, the current Chairwoman of the Council of Democrats (i.e. paramount leader of the Supranational Union).
Family Tree
by Soleos » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:41 pm
Wawakanatote wrote:The Fylkirate wrote:Monogamy as a concept does not exist in the Continent of Ignus. Of course, monogamous people (who share their intimate life with only a single person) exist, but the idea that intimacy belongs only between couples is something that is not comprehended in any culture in Ignus. That said, most of the cultures in Ignus are not polygamous either. In Sol -supported by the Hyaran Faith- concubinage exists. I would say the concubines were in a lower position than the spouse, but women in general have so few rights that the distinction between the positions is literally just a technicality. In Bukari, the Regnant Queen has the right to take consorts in addition to her Grand Prince (the Queen's Spouse), and the consort's only difference with the Grand Prince is that their children -while considered royal- are disqualified from succession (concubinage is banned across the board, and consortage for all who are not the Regnant Queen).
The Norden Tribes are polygamous in that the consorts/concubines -at least where you can find them- are normally considered equal members in a clan. This becomes even more relevant because marriage as a concept is shaky in the Norden society as it is, even without considering non-marital forms of intimacy.
The bit on the rights of women kind of suck tbh. Though it's interesting that your society, in particular your royals, have chosen a system of concubinage over monogamy or polygamy - is this so that they expand their family bloodlines?
AN:
This educational system seems better than the in real life version we have today, but I do have some questions such as, "why do you shave off so many years towards the end of school?" and "do the children go into the workforce directly after completing school?"
The Song-Fan Dynasty is a very powerful and influential family in the realms of governance, business, and entertainment throughout the countries of the Supranational Union, but specifically in China and most of East Asia, dating back to Fan Zhongshu (1897-1947), a journalist and a supporter of the Chinese Revolution, and Song Chiang (1898-1963), a wealthy Hong Kong industrialist. The oldest living member of this family is Fan Ching-kuo (110), the former Chairman of Shaanxi Yanchang Petroleum, who is also the grandfather of Song Liyuan (48), the Chairwoman of the Council of Democrats, and the great-great grandfather of Song Mei (1), the youngest member of the family.
The Song-Fan Dynasty is a very influential and powerful family within the spheres of politics, business, and entertainment throughout the Supranational Union, specifically in China and most of East Asia.
The current incarnation of the family dates back to the tail-end of the late 19th century with the births of Song Chiang, a wealthy Hong Kong industrialist, in 1898 and Fan Zhongzhu, a Chinese journalist and later supporter of the Chinese Revolution, in 1897. These lines would be continued by Fan Zhen-kang in 1921 and Song Hanying in 1926, both as members of the Chinese government with the former as a bureaucrat and the later as a financial adviser.
By the time of their deaths, the next generation was continued on through Song Ju-yin in 1951, the younger daughter of Song Hanying, and Fan Ching-kuo, the younger son of Fan Zhen-kang, in 1952 with the latter still alive at 110, which has allowed them to see the next four generations that initially saw the two families merge in the early 21st century with the marriage between Song Zhi and Fan Zedong - who would later give birth to Song Liyuan, the current Chairwoman of the Council of Democrats (i.e. paramount leader of the Supranational Union).
Family Tree
by EastKekistan » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:59 pm
Soleos wrote:Wawakanatote wrote:
The bit on the rights of women kind of suck tbh. Though it's interesting that your society, in particular your royals, have chosen a system of concubinage over monogamy or polygamy - is this so that they expand their family bloodlines?
AN:
This educational system seems better than the in real life version we have today, but I do have some questions such as, "why do you shave off so many years towards the end of school?" and "do the children go into the workforce directly after completing school?"
The Song-Fan Dynasty is a very powerful and influential family in the realms of governance, business, and entertainment throughout the countries of the Supranational Union, but specifically in China and most of East Asia, dating back to Fan Zhongshu (1897-1947), a journalist and a supporter of the Chinese Revolution, and Song Chiang (1898-1963), a wealthy Hong Kong industrialist. The oldest living member of this family is Fan Ching-kuo (110), the former Chairman of Shaanxi Yanchang Petroleum, who is also the grandfather of Song Liyuan (48), the Chairwoman of the Council of Democrats, and the great-great grandfather of Song Mei (1), the youngest member of the family.
The Song-Fan Dynasty is a very influential and powerful family within the spheres of politics, business, and entertainment throughout the Supranational Union, specifically in China and most of East Asia.
The current incarnation of the family dates back to the tail-end of the late 19th century with the births of Song Chiang, a wealthy Hong Kong industrialist, in 1898 and Fan Zhongzhu, a Chinese journalist and later supporter of the Chinese Revolution, in 1897. These lines would be continued by Fan Zhen-kang in 1921 and Song Hanying in 1926, both as members of the Chinese government with the former as a bureaucrat and the later as a financial adviser.
By the time of their deaths, the next generation was continued on through Song Ju-yin in 1951, the younger daughter of Song Hanying, and Fan Ching-kuo, the younger son of Fan Zhen-kang, in 1952 with the latter still alive at 110, which has allowed them to see the next four generations that initially saw the two families merge in the early 21st century with the marriage between Song Zhi and Fan Zedong - who would later give birth to Song Liyuan, the current Chairwoman of the Council of Democrats (i.e. paramount leader of the Supranational Union).
Family Tree
I'm a bit concerned about political families wielding power over a nation in this regard, but so long as it works out, it works out.
While genders roles have all but been eliminated in Terran culture, "Masculine" and "Feminine" are still traits used to describe a 'style' a citizen exudes.
A citizen's records only have 'Sex' as XX, XY, or O (intersex and other non-binary), but 'gender' doesn't exist outside of the individual's preference for it. Some XX or XY would "look" masculine or feminine, or somewhere in between as well as 'top', 'vers', or 'bottom'. Human sexuality is also simplified as 'preference'. Some XY citizens have a preference for 'feminine' aesthetics, some may be okay with Feminine XY and XX, or, in IRL terms, some are 'straight' and prefer feminine XXs and/or Feminine XYs exclusively. However, most citizens don't focus too much on chromosomes, and usually just go with what turns them on. Someone likes masculine? Doesn't matter if XX, XY, or O, a good looking masculine is a good looking masculine.
At the same time, masculinity in the Technocracy isn't machismo and animalistic aggression. It's basically looking like what one would perceive to be Male, however the machismo stuff is looked down upon as "devolved" and "non-human". Despite the Technocracy being a twisted mixture of Social Progressivism and Confucian-Academic Fascism, society encourages men to be bubbly, sweet, clean, organized, etc. It's not fitting of a space fascist state but somehow it works out.
by Las Palmeras » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:00 pm
by Allied Iran » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:13 pm
No'dad: Ardwahištgān farrox | What is going on in Teheran University? 10,000 students, mainly undergrads, refuse to attend, or let anyone attend, classes! Student leaders give contradicting reasons for ongoing Student Sit-In! — Why has the government withdrawn from Qatar? Nationalists hold protests against 'lack of responsibility and transparency to the Persian people!' — Rockets fired at Seleucia-Ctesiphon from rebel-occupied positions in Transjordan. "Get your house in order, Prince Abd al-Waheed, before we have to get involved" - PM Dadgostar
by The Fylkirate » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:30 pm
Wawakanatote wrote:The bit on the rights of women kind of suck tbh. Though it's interesting that your society, in particular your royals, have chosen a system of concubinage over monogamy or polygamy - is this so that they expand their family bloodlines?
Nothing Yet.
by EastKekistan » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:08 pm
Allied Iran wrote:Huh. That's actually pretty interesting. I would say the conspiracies are racist (similar to the meme that aliens made the Ziggurats or the Pyramids or etc.) but I don't know much about the backstory to make an informed statement
The Iranian diaspora, defined as Iranian people living abroad or their children born abroad, are something close to three million in total. The majority of this number (something between 1.75-2.35 million people) live in the US, Germany, the UK, and Canada, having originally migrated there during or immediately after the Islamic Revolution of 1979. The largest group in Iranian diaspora outside of this is a minority of Iranians living in the coast of East Africa (mostly in the Zanzibar region of Tanzania and some of the Kenyan coast), however it is debatable if they are "diaspora" or not, seeing as the earliest of this group of Iranians left Persia during early Safavid era (1500s).
by Mauropolis » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:22 pm
by EastKekistan » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:23 pm
Mauropolis wrote:The scale of the Iranian diaspora is most definitely interesting, and I wonder if Iran now has plans to bring them back or incentivise them into settling formally Arab-dominated parts of Iran.
The current Autarch, Rhea Wereald, is both motherless NS fatherless. In fact, she is an artificial being and has no true family. She was born from an incubation tank as an experiment in genetic engineering and social conditioning. Since her appointment, she’s allowed such experiments to continue, even donating her biological material. Such material has been used in creating clones of her, though these aren’t often as successful as Rhea was in her youth.
by The Gryphonic States » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:47 pm
Mauropolis wrote:The current Autarch, Rhea Wereald, is both motherless NS fatherless. In fact, she is an artificial being and has no true family. She was born from an incubation tank as an experiment in genetic engineering and social conditioning. Since her appointment, she’s allowed such experiments to continue, even donating her biological material. Such material has been used in creating clones of her, though these aren’t often as successful as Rhea was in her youth.
EastKekistan wrote:Words
!REWRITE UNDERWAY!
A nation of gryphons, engulfed in war with a union of humans, on a world that simply doesn't play nice.
Now with 95% more political intrigue.
by A m e n r i a » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:56 am
by The Fylkirate » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:32 am
Nothing Yet.
by Silver Commonwealth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:53 pm
Opinion: Huh, that's an interesting system you have got there. What happens, if the vote doesn't pass, though? Does it mean, that a new clan can't be created, or something else?
Ministry of EducationFact time!
*SC's teacher takes a cup of lotoko*
''In SC, there is only one major social network, named ''Illumination'', while the computers themselves run on Temple OS - an OS somewhat similar to IRL Microsoft OS, but with differences, like pre-installed tracking system, in order for SC's governments to keep an eye on the people's activities in internet. Logo of Temple OS is a cross with clouds around them, and sun behind the clouds. During its first years of creation, most of its users were in SC's America, and there were only a few people, but as further developments of internet, and electricity network took place in SC's ''FIrst World'' territories, more and more people were able to connect to the internet, and in the mid 2040s, the amount of internet users had reached over 20 million, mostly in SC's ''first world'' regions. Right now, SC's technicians are expanding internet access in newly conquered territories as well, and more users keep coming to SC's internet, with most of them being government officials of the newly formed regions, or Elites. As of now, SC's government is trying to preserve the ''Illumination's'' status as the sole social network in its internet, and other alternatives are usually cracked down. That said, new websites are still appearing, with most of them being computer game sites, or video sharing websites. During the 2020s, Russian Empire and RNGOC (The two other superstates in SC's universe) tried to establish a some kind of social network, and internet in their countries as well, but only a few people used it (Mostly government officials), it had limited internet speed, and connection. After the collapse of those other superstates, most of the internet servers of them shut off soon, due of the lack of maintenance during the chaos. After the Scramble for the World, SC's technicians have turned in some of those servers again, in order to connect the territories of former two superstates with SC's internet better. (And unlike with former disputed zone, SC doesn't need to build everything from zero there.)''
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by Allied Iran » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:09 am
No'dad: Ardwahištgān farrox | What is going on in Teheran University? 10,000 students, mainly undergrads, refuse to attend, or let anyone attend, classes! Student leaders give contradicting reasons for ongoing Student Sit-In! — Why has the government withdrawn from Qatar? Nationalists hold protests against 'lack of responsibility and transparency to the Persian people!' — Rockets fired at Seleucia-Ctesiphon from rebel-occupied positions in Transjordan. "Get your house in order, Prince Abd al-Waheed, before we have to get involved" - PM Dadgostar
by EastKekistan » Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:10 am
Palmyrion wrote:Nice. The Nekomimi immigrants in Palmyrion would do well in the Navy and the Marines of the military.
Bazooka is to the West as RPG is to the Palmyrians - that is, the generic use of a brand name of a general class of related products, in this case shoulder-fired anti-tank weapons, much to the point that guided missile launchers are even called "guided RPGs" by the Palmyrian military despite the fact that the RPG-7, from which the generic trademark gets its name, is an unguided weapon.
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