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Roosevetania
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Founded: Jan 08, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Roosevetania » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:12 am

House of Judah wrote:“Mister President, your role must be that of neutral arbitrator above all. It is for that reason that I move the following amendments.

I move that Section II be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section III.c be struck in its entirety.

I move that Paragraphs III.a and III.b be amended such that
  • where the paragraphs read “five (5) senators” be amended to “a senator”, and
  • the where the paragraphs read “reasonable time” be amended to “twenty-four (24) hours.

I move that Section IV be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section V be amended to read
  1. Rule IXa shall be amended to “The Majority Leader is the floor leader of the party or bloc of the President of the Senate and the Minority Leader.
  2. Rule IXb shall be amended to “The Minority leader is the floor leader of the largest party or bloc which the President of the Senate is not affiliated with.

I move that Section VI be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section VII be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section VIII be amended to read
  1. XVIi, j, k and l shall be renumbered XVIl, m, n, o respectively.
  2. The second pair of Rule XVIf, g, and h shall be renumbered to XVIi, j, k respectively.

"Second."
Collatis wrote:"Mister President, I move that the following amendments to the Amendment to the Standing Rules,
Section Vb shall be amended to, "Rule IXa shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate shall be required to not be a member of any political party.”"
Section VIa shall be amended to, "a. Rule XIa shall be amended to, “Should a motion to commit a bill or other business be adopted, the President of the Senate shall appoint two members and a chairperson to a Committee on (Bill/Resolution title).”"

"Mister President, the purpose of these amendments are to make the President of the Senate a nonpartisan position. These amendments will allow for the more efficient system that the Majority Leader aims for, without the threat of a powerful and partisan President of the Senate that the Honorable Senator Lyons fears."

"Second."
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Paketo
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Ex-Nation

Postby Paketo » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:11 pm

Collatis wrote:
Paketo wrote:
"Mister President, a question of clarification on the first amendment proposed by the honorable senator. The amendment states that the president of the senate will not be a member of a political party. Does this mean that upon election to president of the senate, the senator must resign from their party? Isn't this a needless amendmen if so. There is the fact that by our standing rules, the majority leader comes from the party or bloc of The President of Senate. If a President of the senate were not a member of any party, would that not make it the appointment of a majority by our rules impossible?"

"Mister President, the Amendment to the Standing Rules eliminates the role of Majority Leader."


"Mister President, thank you for the clarification."
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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:59 pm

"The following proposed amendments will be voted on. 24 hours."
Amendment One-
I move that Section II be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Two-
I move that Section III.c be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Three-
I move that Paragraphs III.a and III.b be amended such that
  • where the paragraphs read “five (5) senators” be amended to “a senator”, and
  • the where the paragraphs read “reasonable time” be amended to “twenty-four (24) hours.

Amendment Four-
I move that Section IV be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Five-
I move that Section V be amended to read
  1. Rule IXa shall be amended to “The Majority Leader is the floor leader of the party or bloc of the President of the Senate and the Minority Leader.
  2. Rule IXb shall be amended to “The Minority leader is the floor leader of the largest party or bloc which the President of the Senate is not affiliated with.

Amendment Six-
I move that Section VI be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Seven-
I move that Section VII be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Eight-
I move that Section VIII be amended to read
  1. XVIi, j, k and l shall be renumbered XVIl, m, n, o respectively.
  2. The second pair of Rule XVIf, g, and h shall be renumbered to XVIi, j, k respectively.


Amendment Nine-
Section Vb shall be amended to, "Rule IXa shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate shall be required to not be a member of any political party.”"

Amendment Ten-
Section VIa shall be amended to, "a. Rule XIa shall be amended to, “Should a motion to commit a bill or other business be adopted, the President of the Senate shall appoint two members and a chairperson to a Committee on (Bill/Resolution title).”"
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Ainin
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Ainin » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:05 pm

Nay to all.
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Postby North Dajao » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:10 pm

Nay to all
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Collatis
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Postby Collatis » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:16 pm

Amendment One - Aye
Amendment Two - Abstain
Amendment Three - Nay
Amendment Four - Abstain
Amendment Five - Abstain
Amendment Six - Abstain
Amendment Seven - Abstain
Amendment Eight - Aye
Amendment Nine - Aye
Amendment Ten - Aye
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Malgrave
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Postby Malgrave » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:18 pm

Amendment One - Aye
Amendment Two - Abstain
Amendment Three - Nay
Amendment Four - Abstain
Amendment Five - Abstain
Amendment Six - Abstain
Amendment Seven - Abstain
Amendment Eight - Aye
Amendment Nine - Aye
Amendment Ten - Aye
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Dendart
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Postby Dendart » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:21 pm

NAY to all
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House of Judah
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Postby House of Judah » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:31 pm

Amendment One - Aye
Amendment Two - Aye
Amendment Three - Aye
Amendment Four - Aye
Amendment Five - Aye
Amendment Six - Aye
Amendment Seven - Aye
Amendment Eight - Aye
Amendment Nine - Abstain
Amendment Ten - Aye
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Zurkerx
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Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:31 pm

Nay to all
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Paketo
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Postby Paketo » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:38 pm

NAY to all
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Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:44 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Nay to all


I wish to change my vote on the ninth amendment from Nay to Aye
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Tectonix
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Postby Tectonix » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:12 pm

Aye to all.
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Turealia
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Founded: Jul 02, 2016
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Postby Turealia » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:13 pm

AYE to all
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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:16 pm

Aye to all.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:31 pm

Aye to all
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Davincia
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Postby Davincia » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:57 pm

Nay to all.
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Federated Kingdom
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Postby Federated Kingdom » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:42 pm

Aye to all.
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Felscombe
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Founded: Nov 30, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Felscombe » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:04 pm

House of Judah wrote:“Mister President, your role must be that of neutral arbitrator above all. It is for that reason that I move the following amendments.

I move that Section II be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section III.c be struck in its entirety.

I move that Paragraphs III.a and III.b be amended such that
  • where the paragraphs read “five (5) senators” be amended to “a senator”, and
  • the where the paragraphs read “reasonable time” be amended to “twenty-four (24) hours.

I move that Section IV be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section V be amended to read
  1. Rule IXa shall be amended to “The Majority Leader is the floor leader of the party or bloc of the President of the Senate and the Minority Leader.
  2. Rule IXb shall be amended to “The Minority leader is the floor leader of the largest party or bloc which the President of the Senate is not affiliated with.

I move that Section VI be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section VII be struck in its entirety.

I move that Section VIII be amended to read
  1. XVIi, j, k and l shall be renumbered XVIl, m, n, o respectively.
  2. The second pair of Rule XVIf, g, and h shall be renumbered to XVIi, j, k respectively.

Seconded.
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Felscombe
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Founded: Nov 30, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Felscombe » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:05 pm

Beta Test wrote:"The following proposed amendments will be voted on. 24 hours."
Amendment One-
I move that Section II be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Two-
I move that Section III.c be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Three-
I move that Paragraphs III.a and III.b be amended such that
  • where the paragraphs read “five (5) senators” be amended to “a senator”, and
  • the where the paragraphs read “reasonable time” be amended to “twenty-four (24) hours.

Amendment Four-
I move that Section IV be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Five-
I move that Section V be amended to read
  1. Rule IXa shall be amended to “The Majority Leader is the floor leader of the party or bloc of the President of the Senate and the Minority Leader.
  2. Rule IXb shall be amended to “The Minority leader is the floor leader of the largest party or bloc which the President of the Senate is not affiliated with.

Amendment Six-
I move that Section VI be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Seven-
I move that Section VII be struck in its entirety.

Amendment Eight-
I move that Section VIII be amended to read
  1. XVIi, j, k and l shall be renumbered XVIl, m, n, o respectively.
  2. The second pair of Rule XVIf, g, and h shall be renumbered to XVIi, j, k respectively.


Amendment Nine-
Section Vb shall be amended to, "Rule IXa shall be amended to, “The President of the Senate shall be required to not be a member of any political party.”"

Amendment Ten-
Section VIa shall be amended to, "a. Rule XIa shall be amended to, “Should a motion to commit a bill or other business be adopted, the President of the Senate shall appoint two members and a chairperson to a Committee on (Bill/Resolution title).”"

Aye to all.
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Vedastia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Vedastia » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:08 pm

NAY to all.
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Panama Coalition » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:33 pm

aye to all
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Ex-Nation

Postby Dirkhizistan » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:59 pm

Nay to all
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Tumbra
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tumbra » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:20 pm

Nay to all except the Tenth, where I vote Aye
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Natanians and Nosts » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:38 pm

Ammendment One:Aye
Ammendment Two:Aye
Ammendment Three:Abstain
Ammendment Four:Abstain
Ammendment Five:Nay
Ammendment Six:Aye
Ammendment Seven:Abstain
Ammendment Eight:Aye
Ammendment Nine:Abstain
Ammendment Ten:Abstain
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