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Postby The Sarian » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:17 pm

#ExitMeFromGalatea (better hashtag submissions are welcome x)
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Postby New World Oceania » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:27 pm

The Sarian wrote:Petition for second referendum on the name, with the sole option on the ballot paper to be "Greece".

This will avoid all conflict (which has potential to get v nasty) about pronunciation and is just a good name in general tbh.

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:38 pm

Okay folks, the wait is over. We are going to start the vote, which will last for three days. For everyone's convenience, I have fixed the resolves that said "Galatia" to "Galatea" to fit the name has won. For the categories of Language and History, this will be an instant runoff vote. As such, please rank them. For Geography, Religion, and Miscellaneous, these will be Aye/Nay/Abstain votes. Finally, for Race, select one or the other or neither. Without further to do, let's get this vote started.

Question 1: Language: IRV

Resolved: The majority language will be a Romance constructed language.

Resolved: Esperanto shall be spoken by the majority of the population of Galatea as a lingua franca.

(Considered one Resolved)
Resolved:25-35% of the population shall speak an Eastern Romance-derived language

Resolved: 20-30% of the population shall speak a language derived from Albanian

Resolved: 15-20% of the population shall speak a Slavic language.

Resolved: 10-15% of the population shall speak a language derived from the Semitic languages, similar to Maltese


Code: Select all
SovCon's Language []
Romance Constructed Language []
Esperanto Language []


Question 2: History: IRV

Resolved: Galatea will have long been disputed between Greece and Italy. It will have been ruled by the Roman Empire at one point, being largely agricultural until the early 20th century. It will have switched back and forth between Greek and Italians hands until WW2, where it would be invaded by Fascist Italy. After the war it will have been given to Greece as part of war reparations, but ownership will have been argued about at the UN and EU. It will have often had a strong regional government due to obvious inconsistency in national government. Finally, it had enough being handed back and forth when it declared independence in 2018.

Resolved: Galatea will have become a British possession after WW2 but was granted independence under the London-Zurich agreements in 1960.

Archism History: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=402998&p=33332749&sid=741a12d80d229947c4e13ffffa8ce46c#p33332749

Code: Select all
History 1: Greece and Italy []
History 2: British Possession []
Archism's History []
None of the Above []


Question 3: Geography: Aye/Nay

Archism's Geography: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=402998&p=33357476#p33357476

Question 4: Race: Vote for one or the other or Neither

Resolved: The race statistics in Galatea shall be as follows:
White: 76%
Black: 6%
Arab: 11%
Asian: 5%
Other: 2%

Resolved: G-stan's self-identified ethnic breakdown will be as follows:
"G-stani"- 48%
Greek - 17%
Italian - 12%
Albanian - 5%
African - 4%
Arabic - 3%
Aromanian/Megleno-Romanian - 3%
Turkish - 2%
Serbian - 1%
Bosniak - 1%
Croat - 1%
Other - 3%

Question 5: Religion: Aye/Nay
Resolved: The religion statistics in Galatea shall be as follows:
Christian: 59%
Muslim: 10%
Jewish: 3%
Various Pagan: 9%
Other: 5%
Atheist/Non-affiliated/Agnostic: 14%

Misc: Aye/Nay

Question 6: Resolved: The Capital of G-stan shall be the city of Coros.

Question 7: Resolved: The area of G-stan shall be roughly 21,000 square km.

Question 8: Resolved: The population of G-stan shall be roughly 8,635,000

Question 9: Resolved: The nominal GDP per capita of G-stan shall be roughly $29,500.

Question 10: Resolved: The HDI of G-stan shall be 0.872 (very high classification)

Question 11: Resolved: Galatea was subject to periodical sectarian and political violence similar to the intercommunal violence in Cyprus or The Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Question 12: Resolved:G-stan's second-largest city will be Lapeum

Question 13: Resolved: The admin team will have a random event occur on a bi-weekly basis that the senate will need to respond to.
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Postby Paketo » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:34 pm

Question 1: Language: IRV
Code: Select all
SovCon's Language [1]
Romance Constructed Language [2]
Esperanto Language [3]


Question 2: History: IRV

Code: Select all
History 1: Greece and Italy [3]
History 2: British Possession [1]
Archism's History [2]
None of the Above [4]


Question 3: Geography: Aye

Archism's Geography: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=402998&p=33357476#p33357476

Question 4: Race: Vote for one or the other or Neither

Resolved: G-stan's self-identified ethnic breakdown will be as follows:
"G-stani"- 48%
Greek - 17%
Italian - 12%
Albanian - 5%
African - 4%
Arabic - 3%
Aromanian/Megleno-Romanian - 3%
Turkish - 2%
Serbian - 1%
Bosniak - 1%
Croat - 1%
Other - 3%

Question 5: Religion: Aye
Resolved: The religion statistics in Galatea shall be as follows:
Christian: 59%
Muslim: 10%
Jewish: 3%
Various Pagan: 9%
Other: 5%
Atheist/Non-affiliated/Agnostic: 14%

Misc: Aye

Question 6: Aye

Question 7: Aye

Question 8: Aye

Question 9: Aye

Question 10: Aye

Question 11: Aye

Question 12: Aye

Question 13:Aye
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:37 pm

The Sarian wrote:#ExitMeFromGalatea (better hashtag submissions are welcome x)

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:47 pm

1:
SovCon's Language [1]
Romance Constructed Language [2]
Esperanto Language [3]

2: History 1: Greece and Italy [4]
History 2: British Possession [3]
Archism's History [1]
None of the Above [2]

3: Aye

4: The first one

5: Aye

6: Aye

7: NAY (this is insanely small)

8: Aye

9: Aye

10: Nay

11: Nay

12: Nay (a country this size would have one major city and that would be the capital)

13: Aye

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Postby Collatis » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:30 pm

Question 1:

Code: Select all
SovCon’s Language [3]
Romance Constructed Language [2]
Esperanto Language [1]

Question 2:

Code: Select all
History 1: Greece and Italy [2]
History 2: British Possession [3]
Archism’s History [1]
None of the Above []

Question 3: Aye

Question 4:

Resolved: G-stan’s self-identified ethnic breakdown will be as follows:
“G-stani”- 48%
Greek - 17%
Italian - 12%
Albanian - 5%
African - 4%
Arabic - 3%
Aromanian/Megleno-Romanian - 3%
Turkish - 2%
Serbian - 1%
Bosniak - 1%
Croat - 1%
Other - 3%

Question 5: Aye

Question 6: Aye

Question 7: Abstain

Question 8: Nay, too high

Question 9: Aye

Question 10: Aye

Question 11: Aye

Question 12: Abstain

Question 13: Aye

By the way, Zurkerx, that’s not what the final Esperanto resolution was.

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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:27 am

1: SovCon's Language [3]
Romance Constructed Language [1]
Esperanto Language [2]

2: History 1: Greece and Italy []
History 2: British Possession []
Archism's History [1]
None of the Above []

3: Aye

4:
Resolved: G-stan's self-identified ethnic breakdown will be as follows:
"G-stani"- 48%
Greek - 17%
Italian - 12%
Albanian - 5%
African - 4%
Arabic - 3%
Aromanian/Megleno-Romanian - 3%
Turkish - 2%
Serbian - 1%
Bosniak - 1%
Croat - 1%
Other - 3%

5: Aye

6: Aye

7: Aye

8: Aye

9: Aye

10: Aye

11: Nay

12: Aye

13: Aye

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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:09 am

Adjusted a slight change to the ballot. Thanks to everyone that pointed that out to me.
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Postby Roosevetania » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:56 am

Zurk, why is it either my resolution or Arch's on race? The majority of America is white, but there are lots of ethnic groups (German, Dutch, etc.).
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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:01 am

Roosevetania wrote:Zurk, why is it either my resolution or Arch's on race? The majority of America is white, but there are lots of ethnic groups (German, Dutch, etc.).

There are a few discrepancies between our proposals where our categories meet (we both have Arabic category for example at different percentage) which makes it impossible to incorporate both resolutions as they are.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:09 am

The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:Zurk, why is it either my resolution or Arch's on race? The majority of America is white, but there are lots of ethnic groups (German, Dutch, etc.).

There are a few discrepancies between our proposals where our categories meet (we both have Arabic category for example at different percentage) which makes it impossible to incorporate both resolutions as they are.


This is correct.
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Postby Natanians and Nosts » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:14 pm

For clarification:1 means most favoured,higher number means least favoured.

1:
SovCon's Language [3]
Romance Constructed Language [2]
Esperanto Language [1]

2:
History 1: Greece and Italy [2]
History 2: British Possession [4]
Archism's History [1]
None of the Above []

3:Nay

4:Resolved: G-stan's self-identified ethnic breakdown will be as follows:
"G-stani"- 48%
Greek - 17%
Italian - 12%
Albanian - 5%
African - 4%
Arabic - 3%
Aromanian/Megleno-Romanian - 3%
Turkish - 2%
Serbian - 1%
Bosniak - 1%
Croat - 1%
Other - 3%

5:Nay

6:Aye

7:Aye

8:Nay

9:Aye

10:Aye

11:

12:Aye

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Postby Vedastia » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:24 am

Question 1:
SovCon's Language [1]
Romance Constructed Language [2]
Esperanto Language [3]
---
Question 2:
History 1: Greece and Italy [1]
History 2: British Possession [3]
Archism's History [2]
None of the Above [4]
---
Question 3: AYE
---
Question 4: Resolved: G-stan's self-identified ethnic breakdown will be as follows:
"G-stani"- 48%
Greek - 17%
Italian - 12%
Albanian - 5%
African - 4%
Arabic - 3%
Aromanian/Megleno-Romanian - 3%
Turkish - 2%
Serbian - 1%
Bosniak - 1%
Croat - 1%
Other - 3%
---
Question 5: AYE
Question 6: AYE
Question 7: NAY
Question 8: AYE
Question 9: AYE
Question 10: NAY
Question 11: AYE
Question 12: AYE
Question 13: NAY
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Postby Roosevetania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:27 am

For question 1, by voting for Esperanto as my second choice, am I still voting for it to be a lingua franca?
Question 1:
SovCon's Language []
Romance Constructed Language [1]
Esperanto Language [2]

Question 2:
History 1: Greece and Italy [1]
History 2: British Possession []
Archism's History [2]
None of the Above []

Question 3: AYE

Question 4: Resolved: G-stan's self-identified ethnic breakdown will be as follows:
"G-stani"- 48%
Greek - 17%
Italian - 12%
Albanian - 5%
African - 4%
Arabic - 3%
Aromanian/Megleno-Romanian - 3%
Turkish - 2%
Serbian - 1%
Bosniak - 1%
Croat - 1%
Other - 3%
(Eh, what the heck. Mine is gonna lose anyway. :p )

Question 5: AYE

Question 6: AYE

Question 7: NAY (Completely in agreement with Merizoc. This would make us smaller than Belize.)

Question 8: AYE

Question 9: AYE

Question 10: AYE

Question 11: NAY

Question 12: AYE

Question 13: AYE
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:01 am

SovCon's Language [1]
Romance Constructed Language []
Esperanto Language []

History 1: Greece and Italy []
History 2: British Possession []
Archism's History [1]
None of the Above [2]

Geography: Aye

Race: Neither

Religion: Aye

6:Nay
7:Nay
8.Nay
9. Nay
10. Nay
11. Aye
12. Nay
13. Aye
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Postby Ikania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:28 pm

Alright, I'm back. Took me long enough to miss all the votes but I like where this is going.

SovCon's Language [2]
Romance Constructed Language [1]
Esperanto Language [3]

Question 2: History: IRV

History 1: Greece and Italy [3]
History 2: British Possession [2]
Archism's History [1]
None of the Above []


Question 3: Geography: Aye

Question 4: Option 2

Question 5: Aye

Question 6: Aye

Question 7: Nay

Question 8: Nay

Question 9: Aye

Question 10: Abstain

Question 11: Aye

Question 12: Aye

Question 13: Aye
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Postby Collatis » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:45 pm

Roosevetania wrote:For question 1, by voting for Esperanto as my second choice, am I still voting for it to be a lingua franca?

Roose brings up an interesting point. The Esperanto resolution is not mutually exclusive with the other two resolutions. It probably should’ve had its own aye/nay vote. It’s too late for that though, I suppose.

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Postby Van Hool Islands » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:25 pm

How do we apply if the application thread is archived?
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Postby Roosevetania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:11 pm

Van Hool Islands wrote:How do we apply if the application thread is archived?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can just hang out here until the iteration starts and apply then.
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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:57 pm

Yeah I'm pretty sure you can just jump into participating until we officially start up the next iteration. :)

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Postby Martune » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:34 pm

Roosevetania wrote:
Van Hool Islands wrote:How do we apply if the application thread is archived?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can just hang out here until the iteration starts and apply then.

What about a new character
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Postby Roosevetania » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:09 am

Martune wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can just hang out here until the iteration starts and apply then.

What about a new character

Everyone will make their new character when the next iteration starts. :)
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Postby The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:20 am

Or if you're really cool you'll way overthink it even before things begin 8)

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Postby Roosevetania » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:26 am

The Miaphysite Church of Coptic Archism wrote:Or if you're really cool you'll way overthink it even before things begin 8)

Only the nerds do that. :p

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