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Senator Geneviève Duflot walked in and took her seat.
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Postby Ikania » Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:53 am

Aides walk over to Simon to wake him up.

"No, mom..." he mutters in his sleep. "I don't have a drinking problem... stop it mom... stop it..."

He jolts awake. "HUH? WHAT'S GOING ON?"

Looking around, he relaxes in his chair. "Oh, I see. Dude, I'm hungover as fuck, let's just get this over with."
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The Foreign Affairs Act
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An act designed to formally establish protocol for the Senate to mandate the recognition of foreign nations; and to provide the first recognitions of foreign territory in dispute.



Article I - Means of Recognition
The Senate of Calaverde holds binding power toward the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on the formal extension or revoking of recognition for foreign nations and their rights over sovereign land held by others by merit of history, culture or other factors. The Foreign Minister shall be responsible for ensuring the establishment of diplomatic relations in the event of Senate recognition.

The Foreign Minister may, as a member of the Cabinet, extend or rescind diplomatic recognition of a nation unless otherwise stated by a Senate vote.



Article II - Kosovo
I. Upon ratification of this act, Calaverde will establish partial diplomatic relations with the disputed territory of Kosovo. Full recognition shall be suspended until a time where Kosovo's ethnic issues are settled in a peaceful manner, in accordance with the United Nations. A bill may later be proposed to extend diplomatic relations to full.

II. The territorial claims of Albania and Serbia shall be declared illegitimate by the Calaverdean government until a United Nations resolution, or the geopolitical situation in the region no longer reflects Kosovar sovereignity and independence.

III. Calaverde shall affirm itself to opening an informal consulate in Kosovo to conduct rudimentary diplomatic relations.

IV. This Article may be suspended for good reason if given by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, or by a Senate vote.



Article III - Recognizing the People's Republic of China as the Sole Chinese Nation, and the pre-existing status of the island of Formosa
I. Upon ratification of this act, Calaverde will formally recognize the People's Republic of China as the sole sovereign government of China; in accordance with the United Nations 2578 (1971) which recognized the People's Republic of China as the sole legitimate nation of China.

II. Any official diplomatic embassies in Taipei shall cease operation immediately; and Calaverde will immediately make efforts to open official diplomatic embassies in Beijing. Calaverde may retain a consulate in Taipei if desired.

III. In addendum, Calaverde will adopt a neutral stance on the minor Asian islands dispute between the illegitimate Republic of China, the PRC, Japan, the Republic of Vietnam, Republic of Korea, or other East Asian powers.

IV. Calaverde will, however, despite recognition of the People's Republic as the sole China, will urge the government of Beijing to respect the individual democratic rights of its citizens of all religions, ethnicities and walks of life; and will also encourage the establishment of multipolar democracy in China.

V. The issue of any territory currently actively administered by the "Republic of China" (informally known as Taiwan) shall be informally recognized as seperate government which governs only the areas it holds; The government of Calaverde will adopt a neutral stance on the Taiwan Straits issue, as referenced in Article III, Section III. Calaverde will not recognize the "Republic of China" (Formosa)'s rights to its territorial claims on the Mainland unless specifically backed by a democratic referendum in China.





Article IV - On the Matter of Korea
I. Upon ratification of this act, Calaverde will formally recognize both the Republic of Korea, and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea as sovereign, existing nations, and acknowledges the claims the two have over each other. The reality of the ground situation will most likely mean that reunification is unlikely short of war; Calaverde will not support either side's claims unless otherwise stated in a future bill.

II. While Calaverde will open a diplomatic embassy in Seoul, such will not be extended to Pyongyang due to the inability to guarantee the security of our diplomatic staff, and the extensive dictatorship instituted by Pyongyang, as well as the internet and cell phone blackouts, which would prevent our embassy from contacting Calaverde in case of emergency.

III. Calaverde urges the Democratic People's Republic of Korea to institute Destalinization and to participate fairly in the diplomatic sphere as a non-rogue nation, and to practice goodwill toward it's neighboring countries. Calaverde also urges other nations to cease their propping up of this dictatorship.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:00 pm

Heraklea- wrote:Senator David Vera Cruz walks in, takes his seat, then immeadiately rises and declares
With regard to S2, Article 6 of Police Establishment and Powers Act, I see no need for two separate oaths. The administration of such oaths to a body of recruits mixed in religious and irreligious preferences would be awkward at best and detract from the importance of such ceremony. As we should be a secular state, I move that S2, Article 6 be amended as such:

I contend that such an important oath should, where religion is such a cornerstone of the recruit's life, take this into account. It should be (insofar as possible and reasonable) be the most serious oath that recruit can take. As for detracting from importance of a ceremony, other venerable institutions (including those who are almost built on the importance of their ceremonies and traditions) such as the British Army see no problem in having one to take into account religious preference.
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Postby Beta Test » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:00 pm

Salvador O'Hara enters the Chamber and takes his seat with his Liberal Democrat colleagues.

Ikania wrote:Aides walk over to Simon to wake him up.

"No, mom..." he mutters in his sleep. "I don't have a drinking problem... stop it mom... stop it..."

He jolts awake. "HUH? WHAT'S GOING ON?"

Looking around, he relaxes in his chair. "Oh, I see. Dude, I'm hungover as fuck, let's just get this over with."


Turning his head he sees a sorry state of a man struggling to maintain consciousness.

"Heh."
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:13 pm

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edit: also as i said many times before i refuse to recognize any state as this blocks off the ability to use a deregulated market to trade with everyone
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Postby Heraklea- » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:15 pm

Kouralia wrote:I contend that such an important oath should, where religion is such a cornerstone of the recruit's life, take this into account. It should be (insofar as possible and reasonable) be the most serious oath that recruit can take. As for detracting from importance of a ceremony, other venerable institutions (including those who are almost built on the importance of their ceremonies and traditions) such as the British Army see no problem in having one to take into account religious preference.

That's all well and good for the British Army, who serve a nation with an explicit state religion. I dare to say that Calaverde should be better and more welcoming of all. Let the Constabulary be more filled with a sense of fraternity and unity by all reciting the same oath, which neither declares favor or opposition to the belief in a deity.

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Postby Kouralia » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:18 pm

Heraklea- wrote:
Kouralia wrote:I contend that such an important oath should, where religion is such a cornerstone of the recruit's life, take this into account. It should be (insofar as possible and reasonable) be the most serious oath that recruit can take. As for detracting from importance of a ceremony, other venerable institutions (including those who are almost built on the importance of their ceremonies and traditions) such as the British Army see no problem in having one to take into account religious preference.

That's all well and good for the British Army, who serve a nation with an explicit state religion. I dare to say that Calaverde should be better and more welcoming of all. Let the Constabulary be more filled with a sense of fraternity and unity by all reciting the same oath, which neither declares favor or opposition to the belief in a deity.

Senator, are we not in a nation in one of the more religious - and specifically Christian - areas of the world, with over half of our citizens being Catholic? The only reason we do not have a state religion is because we have not legislated for such. If in the future legislation is passed to render all parts of government secular, then it can specifically edit the relevant section of this Act, but until then I feel it is unwise to leave out those who are not Atheist.
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Postby Heraklea- » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:26 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Heraklea- wrote:That's all well and good for the British Army, who serve a nation with an explicit state religion. I dare to say that Calaverde should be better and more welcoming of all. Let the Constabulary be more filled with a sense of fraternity and unity by all reciting the same oath, which neither declares favor or opposition to the belief in a deity.

Senator, are we not in a nation in one of the more religious - and specifically Christian - areas of the world, with over half of our citizens being Catholic? The only reason we do not have a state religion is because we have not legislated for such. If in the future legislation is passed to render all parts of government secular, then it can specifically edit the relevant section of this Act, but until then I feel it is unwise to leave out those who are not Atheist.

This does not leave out the non-Atheist as members are not expected to declare a belief in the non-existence of God. It instead serves to ensure those who do so believe are not made to feel out of place in their calling of service to their community. As to the percentages of our population, the religious make up of our nation has not yet actually been determined. Establishment of laws on the basis of assertion not supported by demonstrated fact should be abhorrent to a democratic society.

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Postby Ikania » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:29 pm

Simon Almagro, being quick to recover from a night of excessive drinking, stands up.

"Alright, first off, voting against unless we fully recognize Kosovo. Second, I just got accepted into the Liberal Democratic Party. Not the twits in the UK, but, you know. Third... oh fuck, I have a massive headache. Can someone get me some ginger ale?"

He starts humming the tune of Bittersweet Symphony while twiddling his thumbs, waiting patiently for someone to grab him some Ginger Ale.

OOC: Can we just assume that everyone is speaking in Spanish?
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Postby Nova Anglicana » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:09 pm

Ikania wrote:Simon Almagro, being quick to recover from a night of excessive drinking, stands up.

"Alright, first off, voting against unless we fully recognize Kosovo. Second, I just got accepted into the Liberal Democratic Party. Not the twits in the UK, but, you know. Third... oh fuck, I have a massive headache. Can someone get me some ginger ale?"

He starts humming the tune of Bittersweet Symphony while twiddling his thumbs, waiting patiently for someone to grab him some Ginger Ale.

OOC: Can we just assume that everyone is speaking in Spanish?


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Agustín Tejeda enters the chamber with his straw hat in his hands. He walks over to the Dread Pirate Roberts Senator Kourie and David Vera Cruz and states:

"While I believe that Calaverde should be an officially secular state, our commitment to freedom of religion should allow recruits who feel it necessary to invoke the name of a god or gods when taking their oath of service to do so. We should encourage diversity of religious belief and non-belief in our police force in order to more fully represent our populace and each member of our police force should feel valued and accepted."
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Postby Heraklea- » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:20 pm

Nova Anglicana wrote:
Ikania wrote:Simon Almagro, being quick to recover from a night of excessive drinking, stands up.

"Alright, first off, voting against unless we fully recognize Kosovo. Second, I just got accepted into the Liberal Democratic Party. Not the twits in the UK, but, you know. Third... oh fuck, I have a massive headache. Can someone get me some ginger ale?"

He starts humming the tune of Bittersweet Symphony while twiddling his thumbs, waiting patiently for someone to grab him some Ginger Ale.

OOC: Can we just assume that everyone is speaking in Spanish?


OOC: That's what I'm doing unless stated otherwise.

Agustín Tejeda enters the chamber with his straw hat in his hands. He walks over to the Dread Pirate Roberts Senator Kourie and David Vera Cruz and states:

"While I believe that Calaverde should be an officially secular state, our commitment to freedom of religion should allow recruits who feel it necessary to invoke the name of a god or gods when taking their oath of service to do so. We should encourage diversity of religious belief and non-belief in our police force in order to more fully represent our populace and each member of our police force should feel valued and accepted."

Then they may append to the end of their statement, at no prompting, a clause to that affect. They may freely do so. But invocations of a deity has no place in the body of law.

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Postby Nova Anglicana » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:25 pm

Heraklea- wrote:
Nova Anglicana wrote:
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Agustín Tejeda enters the chamber with his straw hat in his hands. He walks over to the Dread Pirate Roberts Senator Kourie and David Vera Cruz and states:

"While I believe that Calaverde should be an officially secular state, our commitment to freedom of religion should allow recruits who feel it necessary to invoke the name of a god or gods when taking their oath of service to do so. We should encourage diversity of religious belief and non-belief in our police force in order to more fully represent our populace and each member of our police force should feel valued and accepted."

Then they may append to the end of their statement, at no prompting, a clause to that affect. They may freely do so. But invocations of a deity has no place in the body of law.


I would disagree with you on this last sentence, but I am inclined to support your compromise position. Does the phrase "at no prompting" mean that the individual swearing in the recruit may not say something like, "If, at the end of this oath, you wish to append a phrase invoking a deity or deities of your choice, you are free to do so. Don't feel that you have to."
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Postby Atlanticatia » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:26 pm

Senator Sebastián Luc Morales walks in, takes his seat and takes out his iPhone, and tweets a photo of the Chamber, captioning it " #calaverde #democracy #time2dostuff #followme #hola #retweet " before placing his iPhone in his bag. He grins, listening to the debate.
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Postby Heraklea- » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:28 pm

Nova Anglicana wrote:
Heraklea- wrote:Then they may append to the end of their statement, at no prompting, a clause to that affect. They may freely do so. But invocations of a deity has no place in the body of law.


I would disagree with you on this last sentence, but I am inclined to support your compromise position. Does the phrase "at no prompting" mean that the individual swearing in the recruit may not say something like, "If, at the end of this oath, you wish to append a phrase invoking a deity or deities of your choice, you are free to do so. Don't feel that you have to."

That would be the intention, yes.

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Postby Geilinor » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:28 pm

Senator Duflot joined the debate. "While I personally am a Roman Catholic, I believe that Calaverde should legally remain a secular state out of respect to all groups," she said.
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Postby Britanno » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:30 pm

Ainin wrote:Then said people will be slapped with disciplinary action once someone resubmits a PPUBA.

I'm sure minor disciplinary action will stop anyone from daring to quote whole bills.
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