National Imperialist-Freedom Party Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Hathradic States]

My fellow Imperials, I am here to announce that we have entered into an official alliance with the Classical Monarchist Party, which we have called the Stalhelm Alliance. They are welcome in our thread, and us in theirs.

We're proud to be working with you. Thanks to our decision to formalise this alliance, the far-right just got a whole lot stronger.

As an aside, when they hear about this alliance, all policemen in our nation will probably start petitioning their senators to oppose the anti-gun and anti-paramilitary bills. I mean, would you want to be sent after us? I feel just terrible for the first guy who gets that job.

It would suck greatly.

[Unicario]

Our paramilitaries? They exist to help defend the republic! The army and police cannot be everywhere at once... If we use our paramilitaries to help police the districts that the NIFP controls politically, then what is the issue?

I'm sure Chairman, you'll permit them to regulate what we can/cannot do in terms of police action, but perhaps we should offer to use our paramilitaries in defense of the republic by breaking criminals down so the police do not have to be everywhere at once.

[The Zeonic States]

Our paramilitaries? They exist to help defend the republic! The army and police cannot be everywhere at once... If we use our paramilitaries to help police the districts that the NIFP controls politically, then what is the issue?

I'm sure Chairman, you'll permit them to regulate what we can/cannot do in terms of police action, but perhaps we should offer to use our paramilitaries in defense of the republic by breaking criminals down so the police do not have to be everywhere at once.

Good idea; We should be final arbiters of right and wrong within our territories anyway.

[Unicario]

Our paramilitaries? They exist to help defend the republic! The army and police cannot be everywhere at once... If we use our paramilitaries to help police the districts that the NIFP controls politically, then what is the issue?

I'm sure Chairman, you'll permit them to regulate what we can/cannot do in terms of police action, but perhaps we should offer to use our paramilitaries in defense of the republic by breaking criminals down so the police do not have to be everywhere at once.

Good idea; We should be final arbiters of right and wrong within our territories anyway.

No, that's not my point. My point is that we can make our paramilitaries act in capacity as assisting the police. We do not have final say in law, and our paramilitaries shouldn't have that right, but we should be able to use them for good.

[The Zeonic States]

Good idea; We should be final arbiters of right and wrong within our territories anyway.

No, that's not my point. My point is that we can make our paramilitaries act in capacity as assisting the police. We do not have final say in law, and our paramilitaries shouldn't have that right, but we should be able to use them for good.

So you wish our territories Guardians are you proposed them to be subservient to the National Regulated Policing Service?

[Unicario]

No, that's not my point. My point is that we can make our paramilitaries act in capacity as assisting the police. We do not have final say in law, and our paramilitaries shouldn't have that right, but we should be able to use them for good.

So you wish our territories Guardians are you proposed them to be subservient to the National Regulated Policing Service?

Partially, yes.

As for the issue in Senate, I doubt there will be a true compromise. Any compromises will be rejected by the radicals.

[Zweite Alaje]

So you wish our territories Guardians are you proposed them to be subservient to the National Regulated Policing Service?

Partially, yes.

As for the issue in Senate, I doubt there will be a true compromise. Any compromises will be rejected by the radicals.

I'm sorry, we shouldn't compromise with the liberals. They have every intention of crushing us.

[Unicario]

Can we take our heads out of our asses for a minute and /consider/ cooperating with the liberals?

[DuThaal Craftworld]

Okay. Draft #2

Statement The right of the people to possess, use and carry firearms shall not be infringed by any state, federal or other governmental authority. And while the right of the people to bear low-power explosives/artillery may be infringed, it shall not be prohibited in most circumstances*. Also not infringed is the right of the people to affix these weapons upon any frame that they wish, so long as they have the consent of the object’s owner.
Definitions; Defines firearms as any weapon with a projectile diameter of less than twelve point 7 (12.7) millimeters, a projectile length of less than four (4) centimeters, and utilizes a short combustion cycle to propel said projectile out of the weapon and towards a target. The exception to this is shotgun shells/rounds/calibres, which may be of any size applicable for their purpose. These defined firearms may take the form of pistols, rifles, shotguns and large ‘sniper’ rifles. If the ammunition carries over 1/4 ounce of explosive or 4 ounces of propellant then it is governed as artillery/low power explosives. No harmful (read; toxic/otherwise dangerous) biological or chemical elements are banned, as seen later within this bill.
Defines low-power explosives as any explosive material with an explosive force of less than ten kilograms (22 pounds) when shaped into a regular cube measuring 1cm³ before detonation. Upon and after detonation it may not leave behind any harmful chemical, biological or radiological residue/effects upon the environment.
Defines artillery, for the purpose of this bill, to be any weapon with a projectile diameter above 6.35 centimeters.
Defines the circumstances under which a member of the populace’s right to bear low power exposives and artillery as legal charges. Unless otherwise stated, instant confiscation, a ban from owning such weapons again and selling the confiscated materials back onto the free market is the penalty. The legal charges applicable are as such; conspiracy to commit murder (with the weapon(s)), manslaughter (four month suspension, official training upon proper use), murder (with the weapon(s)), armed robbery (with the weapon(s)), rape (wherein the weapon(s) were used to coerce the raped party) or property destruction (with the weapon(s)).
Furthermore it shall take no less than a vote of 80% confidence within the senate at the minimum in order to repeal this bill once passed..

I don't want to submit this until it's as strong as possible.

[Zweite Alaje]

Can we take our heads out of our asses for a minute and /consider/ cooperating with the liberals?

No, that isn't going to work. They've already rejected Hath's proposed compromise. Playtime is over.

[The Zeonic States]

Can we take our heads out of our asses for a minute and /consider/ cooperating with the liberals?

No, that isn't going to work. They've already rejected Hath's proposed compromise. Playtime is over.

Any entity that threatens the continued existence of the party is a clear and present danger to this body and the senate.

[DuThaal Craftworld]

Can we take our heads out of our asses for a minute and /consider/ cooperating with the liberals?

No, that isn't going to work. They've already rejected Hath's proposed compromise. Playtime is over.

Shit! That reminded me. Should I add a privately-owned armored vehicle clause?

[The Zeonic States]

No, that isn't going to work. They've already rejected Hath's proposed compromise. Playtime is over.

Shit! That reminded me. Should I add a privately-owned armored vehicle clause?

Yes.

[Hathradic States]

BY ORDER OF THE CHAIRMAN:

The PSF will be on standby until a compromise is successful reached, or actions are taken against us. We will not start a fucking war, am I clear?

[The Zeonic States]

BY ORDER OF THE CHAIRMAN:

The PSF will be on standby until a compromise is successful reached, or actions are taken against us. We will not start a fucking war, am I clear?

I will comply but I am placing the entirety of the organization at Stage one Alert and will have arms distributed.

[DuThaal Craftworld]

BY ORDER OF THE CHAIRMAN:

The PSF will be on standby until a compromise is successful reached, or actions are taken against us. We will not start a fucking war, am I clear?

Clear.
And… I need help with the privately owned armored vehicle clause. I have no idea how the hell I'm gonna get this bill passed with it included. Everything I've drafted basically gives people the clear to buy seven year or older MBT's from mil-surp suppliers, and there's no way the Liberal's compromise on that at all.
Help?

[The Realm of God]

I believe we (me and Hath) need to draw up the compromise we reached in the coffee shop on paper as the Partisan Arms Limitation Talks (PALT) I'll ask that Hath write it and then we can put it to vote.

[DuThaal Craftworld]

I believe we (me and Hath) need to draw up the compromise we reached in the coffee shop on paper as the Partisan Arms Limitation Talks (PALT) I'll ask that Hath write it and then we can put it to vote.

And the rest of us will vehemently oppose it.
No offense to Hath or you, but limiting arms and similar things simply violates what this party stands for, within my humble opinion. Anyone with more knowledge; please feel free to correct me.

[The Zeonic States]

I believe we (me and Hath) need to draw up the compromise we reached in the coffee shop on paper as the Partisan Arms Limitation Talks (PALT) I'll ask that Hath write it and then we can put it to vote.

:/ Agreement already reached huh.

Good to know.

Its sad once again despite being the head of the PSF I am once again quite late to find about this shit.

[Unicario]

Chairman Hath, read your messages.

[Zweite Alaje]

I believe we (me and Hath) need to draw up the compromise we reached in the coffee shop on paper as the Partisan Arms Limitation Talks (PALT) I'll ask that Hath write it and then we can put it to vote.

And the rest of us will vehemently oppose it.
No offense to Hath or you, but limiting arms and similar things simply violates what this party stands for, within my humble opinion. Anyone with more knowledge; please feel free to correct me.

Hath is chairman, he decides what this party stands for.

[Hathradic States]

I believe we (me and Hath) need to draw up the compromise we reached in the coffee shop on paper as the Partisan Arms Limitation Talks (PALT) I'll ask that Hath write it and then we can put it to vote.

:/ Agreement already reached huh.

Good to know.

Its sad once again despite being the head of the PSF I am once again quite late to find about this shit.

I told you we were coming to an agreement.

[DuThaal Craftworld]

Okay, is second draft fine for submittal? I feel a need to get it on the bills as fast as possible.

[The Zeonic States]

And the rest of us will vehemently oppose it.
No offense to Hath or you, but limiting arms and similar things simply violates what this party stands for, within my humble opinion. Anyone with more knowledge; please feel free to correct me.

Hath is chairman, he decides what this party stands for.

I may agree with the parties current direction but if it drifts to far from what I believe our platform should be and I will no longer support the message.

Just something to consider.

I believe that the limitation of privately held arms is immoral in the lightest of senses.

[Unicario]

Well you know what!? It's either we compromise, or all of us are sent on a one-way goddamn motherfucking ticket to prison.

I'm not going to support an armed insurrection at all.