The Senate Coffee Shop: This Is Not The Chamber

[Socialist Mercanda]

Would it not be sensible to include a deadline for a Constitution to be drafted and ready to be ratified, and also state that if the deadline is not met the Senate would be dissolved and fresh elections held, an argument I raised in the Chamber thread? Obviously the deadline is simply for keeping up appearances, but also so the Senate and the Executive Government doesn't go rogue with power, and doesn't pass a Constitution in order to retain power

Exactly my amendments. Good catch, mate.

Happy with the amendments made. Now I support the bill I'll withdraw my motion to have fresh elections if the Senate fails to reach a deadline, as it's unnecessary and I only proposed it for appearances.

[Tectonix]

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Foreign Recognition Act

Sponsor: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)
Co-Sponsors: António Ventura (RGA - Arachaea)
An act to establish which foreign entities Fernão should give official recognition as sovereign nations

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Section 1: Definitions

Recognised country- A country which the government of Fernão officially views as being its own sovereign entity with a valid claim over the land it governs over
Territorial dispute- A situation in which two or more countries disagree over the ownership of a particular area

Section 2: Recognised Countries

The following states are hereby officially recognised
a. All member states of the United Nations
b. Kosovo
c. Palestine
d. Vatican City
e. Western Sahara

Section 3: Territorial Disputes

a. Fernão will officially recognise the land claims of the previously mentioned nations without UN recognition
b. Unless otherwise specified, Fernão will take the position held by the United Nations in territorial disputes, and remain neutral in conflicts which the UN has no official position

Edit- Slight wording change to reduce redundancy, and removed Somaliland, even though I'll probably write a bill later on to amend it. At this point, we just need something officially recognising foreign governments.

Sponsored - Alexios Viel, RGP

[Tectonix]

Fernãoan Constitution Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors:

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Constitution, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Structure and Formulation of the Constitution:

1. Establishes the name of the constitution for the formal government of Fernão to be the 'Constitution' and the 'Fernãoan Constitution,' to be used interchangeably.
2. Mandates that the Constitution be comprised of a Preamble, Bill of Rights, Articles and their Sections, Signatures of all Present Senators and Provisional President, and Amendments, in that order.
3. Further Mandates that the bill that shall pass through the Provisional Government and be defined as the Draft Constitution be immune from motions and actions for indefinite tabling, removal from consideration, filibuster or cloture, unless otherwise permitted by the Interim Speaker.
4. Forbids the usage of any Committee to be used in the drafting or passage of the Draft Constitution, rather the process be open to the entire Senate.
5. Orders the fact that any proposed amendments to the Draft Constitution, as it is to be known, be in the form of a clause or multiple clauses, and votes to include them be through a simple majority as a division of the question.

§2 – Legal Prerequisites:

1. Requires that a judicial review by the entirety of the High Court be called, with a maximum duration of 7 days, to assure the legality of the Draft Constitution once it has been approved by the Provisional President.
2. Establishes the right of the Constitution to be the supreme law of Fernão and its citizens, superseding all other legislations, court mandates, executive actions, Senate motions, etc.
3. Further requires the Constitution to include a clause that specifically mandates that the formal Government of Fernão and its associates be explicitly prohibited from engaging in any activity that violates the provisions listed within the UN Human Rights and all its Protocols, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols and the UN Geneva Convention and all its Protocols.

Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Concerns?

As a quick statement, when the word 'Constitution' is used, it is referring to both the finished Constitution and the Draft Constitution.

[Great Nepal]

Preliminary read-through, I would suggest 2/5 to filibuster. Will read the whole bill later.

Sure will change it in a bit; and thanks.

[Socialist Mercanda]

Fernãoan Constitution Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors:

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Constitution, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Structure and Formulation of the Constitution:

1. Establishes the name of the constitution for the formal government of Fernão to be the 'Constitution' and the 'Fernãoan Constitution,' to be used interchangeably.
2. Mandates that the Constitution be comprised of a Preamble, Bill of Rights, Articles and their Sections, Signatures of all Present Senators and Provisional President, and Amendments, in that order.
3. Further Mandates that the bill that shall pass through the Provisional Government and be defined as the Draft Constitution be immune from motions and actions for indefinite tabling, removal from consideration, filibuster or cloture, unless otherwise permitted by the Interim Speaker.
4. Forbids the usage of any Committee to be used in the drafting or passage of the Draft Constitution, rather the process be open to the entire Senate.
5. Orders the fact that any proposed amendments to the Draft Constitution, as it is to be known, be in the form of a clause or multiple clauses, and votes to include them be through a simple majority as a division of the question.

§2 – Legal Prerequisites:

1. Requires that a judicial review by the entirety of the High Court be called, with a maximum duration of 7 days, to assure the legality of the Draft Constitution once it has been approved by the Provisional President.
2. Establishes the right of the Constitution to be the supreme law of Fernão and its citizens, superseding all other legislations, court mandates, executive actions, Senate motions, etc.
3. Further requires the Constitution to include a clause that specifically mandates that the formal Government of Fernão and its associates be explicitly prohibited from engaging in any activity that violates the provisions listed within the UN Human Rights and all its Protocols, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols and the UN Geneva Convention and all its Protocols.

Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Concerns?

As a quick statement, when the word 'Constitution' is used, it is referring to both the finished Constitution and the Draft Constitution.

Would be sensible to add that the High Court functions as the interpreter of the Constitution, like how Supreme/High Courts work in other nations.

[Tectonix]

Fernãoan Constitution Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors:

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Constitution, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Structure and Formulation of the Constitution:

1. Establishes the name of the constitution for the formal government of Fernão to be the 'Constitution' and the 'Fernãoan Constitution,' to be used interchangeably.
2. Mandates that the Constitution be comprised of a Preamble, Bill of Rights, Articles and their Sections, Signatures of all Present Senators and Provisional President, and Amendments, in that order.
3. Further Mandates that the bill that shall pass through the Provisional Government and be defined as the Draft Constitution be immune from motions and actions for indefinite tabling, removal from consideration, filibuster or cloture, unless otherwise permitted by the Interim Speaker.
4. Forbids the usage of any Committee to be used in the drafting or passage of the Draft Constitution, rather the process be open to the entire Senate.
5. Orders the fact that any proposed amendments to the Draft Constitution, as it is to be known, be in the form of a clause or multiple clauses, and votes to include them be through a simple majority as a division of the question.

§2 – Legal Prerequisites:

1. Requires that a judicial review by the entirety of the High Court be called, with a maximum duration of 7 days, to assure the legality of the Draft Constitution once it has been approved by the Provisional President.
2. Establishes the right of the Constitution to be the supreme law of Fernão and its citizens, superseding all other legislations, court mandates, executive actions, Senate motions, etc.
3. Further requires the Constitution to include a clause that specifically mandates that the formal Government of Fernão and its associates be explicitly prohibited from engaging in any activity that violates the provisions listed within the UN Human Rights and all its Protocols, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols and the UN Geneva Convention and all its Protocols.

Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Concerns?

As a quick statement, when the word 'Constitution' is used, it is referring to both the finished Constitution and the Draft Constitution.

Would be sensible to add that the High Court functions as the interpreter of the Constitution.

That would go in the Constitution, not the Act established how said Constitution should be made (which this one is). Though yes, the High Court should indeed be the interpreter.
Section 2, Clause A already makes judicial review a requirement, anyways. The High Court is being used.

[Socialist Mercanda]

Would be sensible to add that the High Court functions as the interpreter of the Constitution.

That would go in the Constitution, not the Act established how said Constitution should be made (which this one is). Though yes, the High Court should indeed be the interpreter.
Section 2, Clause A already makes judicial review a requirement, anyways. The High Court is being used.

Ah yes, true.

Co-sponsored. Antonia Esteves (CU).

[Tectonix]

National Time Zone Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors:

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Standard Time Zone, or FST, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – The FST:

1. Establishes the name of the time zone of which all of Fernão and its constituencies be a part of be Fernão Standard Time, or FST.
2. Mandates that FST be Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) +4 in its time setting, equivalent to Gulf Standard Time (GST).
3. Further Mandates that Coordinated Universal Time be the standard time in which FST be based off of.
4. Further Establishes that Fernão shall not observe Daylight Savings Time.

Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Concerns?

[Socialist Nordia]

No daylight savings? Awesome!
The only thing I can see wrong is clause e, which has nothing in it, which is just an error I'm assuming.
Once that's fixed up, I sponsor.

Also, I'm working on a bill establishing grammatical standards to be applied to all future legislation. It's going to mandate the standard conventions of British English, along with other things like usage of the Oxford comma, forbid double negatives, and discourage usage of contractions.

Any grammar nazis want to suggest other standards to shove down people's throats?

[Soviet Canuckistan]

No daylight savings? Awesome!
The only thing I can see wrong is clause e, which has nothing in it, which is just an error I'm assuming.
Once that's fixed up, I sponsor.

Also, I'm working on a bill establishing grammatical standards to be applied to all future legislation. It's going to mandate the standard conventions of British English, along with other things like usage of the Oxford comma, forbid double negatives, and discourage usage of contractions.

Any grammar nazis want to suggest other standards to shove down people's throats?

The use of Canadian English instead of the inferior British English dialect.

[Socialist Nordia]

No daylight savings? Awesome!
The only thing I can see wrong is clause e, which has nothing in it, which is just an error I'm assuming.
Once that's fixed up, I sponsor.

Also, I'm working on a bill establishing grammatical standards to be applied to all future legislation. It's going to mandate the standard conventions of British English, along with other things like usage of the Oxford comma, forbid double negatives, and discourage usage of contractions.

Any grammar nazis want to suggest other standards to shove down people's throats?

The use of Canadian English instead of the inferior British English dialect.

When considering IC this country has never had any significant interactions with Canada, that wouldn't really make any sense.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

The use of Canadian English instead of the inferior British English dialect.

When considering IC this country has never had any significant interactions with Canada, that wouldn't really make any sense.

Doesn't matter, Canadian English is the superior english dialect.

[Socialist Mercanda]

When considering IC this country has never had any significant interactions with Canada, that wouldn't really make any sense.

Doesn't matter, Canadian English is the superior english dialect.

english engish is better how aboot that eh?

[Tectonix]

No daylight savings? Awesome!
The only thing I can see wrong is clause e, which has nothing in it, which is just an error I'm assuming.
Once that's fixed up, I sponsor.

Also, I'm working on a bill establishing grammatical standards to be applied to all future legislation. It's going to mandate the standard conventions of British English, along with other things like usage of the Oxford comma, forbid double negatives, and discourage usage of contractions.

Any grammar nazis want to suggest other standards to shove down people's throats?

Fixed Clause E. Think you could take a look at the Constitution act, too? Thanks.

Also, I will fight to the absolute death to make sure I don't need to use the Oxford comma. Maybe just make that part optional? That would be best.

[Tectonix]

Fernãoan Constitution Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Antonia Esteves (CU - Socialist Mercada)

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Constitution, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Structure and Formulation of the Constitution:

1. Establishes the name of the constitution for the formal government of Fernão to be the 'Constitution' and the 'Fernãoan Constitution,' to be used interchangeably.
2. Mandates that the Constitution be comprised of a Preamble, Bill of Rights, Articles and their Sections, Signatures of all Present Senators and Provisional President, and Amendments, in that order.
3. Further Mandates that the bill that shall pass through the Provisional Government and be defined as the Draft Constitution be immune from motions and actions for indefinite tabling, removal from consideration, filibuster or cloture, unless otherwise permitted by the Interim Speaker.
4. Forbids the usage of any Committee to be used in the drafting or passage of the Draft Constitution, rather the process be open to the entire Senate.
5. Orders the fact that any proposed amendments to the Draft Constitution, as it is to be known, be in the form of a clause or multiple clauses, and votes to include them be through a simple majority as a division of the question.

§2 – Legal Prerequisites:

1. Requires that a judicial review by the entirety of the High Court be called, with a maximum duration of 7 days, to assure the legality of the Draft Constitution once it has been approved by the Provisional President.
2. Establishes the right of the Constitution to be the supreme law of Fernão and its citizens, superseding all other legislations, court mandates, executive actions, Senate motions, etc.
3. Further requires the Constitution to include a clause that specifically mandates that the formal Government of Fernão and its associates be explicitly prohibited from engaging in any activity that violates the provisions listed within the UN Human Rights and all its Protocols, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols and the UN Geneva Convention and all its Protocols.

National Time Zone Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Standard Time Zone, or FST, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – The FST:

1. Establishes the name of the time zone of which all of Fernão and its constituencies be a part of be Fernão Standard Time, or FST.
2. Mandates that FST be Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) +4 in its time setting, equivalent to Gulf Standard Time (GST).
3. Further Mandates that Coordinated Universal Time be the standard time in which FST be based off of.
4. Further Establishes that Fernão shall not observe Daylight Savings Time.

Reposted with Co-Sponsors.

[Socialist Nordia]

No daylight savings? Awesome!
The only thing I can see wrong is clause e, which has nothing in it, which is just an error I'm assuming.
Once that's fixed up, I sponsor.

Also, I'm working on a bill establishing grammatical standards to be applied to all future legislation. It's going to mandate the standard conventions of British English, along with other things like usage of the Oxford comma, forbid double negatives, and discourage usage of contractions.

Any grammar nazis want to suggest other standards to shove down people's throats?

Fixed Clause E. Think you could take a look at the Constitution act, too? Thanks.

Also, I will fight to the absolute death to make sure I don't need to use the Oxford comma. Maybe just make that part optional? That would be best.

Sure, looks good, I'll sponsor.

Oxford commas are superior.

[Tectonix]

Fixed Clause E. Think you could take a look at the Constitution act, too? Thanks.

Also, I will fight to the absolute death to make sure I don't need to use the Oxford comma. Maybe just make that part optional? That would be best.

Sure, looks good, I'll sponsor.

Oxford commas are superior.

Are you referring to the Constitution one? If so, I'll make sure to edit it.

Not wanting to get into a fight about this, I'll just say the Oxford comma usage should be encouraged but not enforced.

[Socialist Mercanda]

Oxford commas are superior.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

oxford commas MANDATORY

[Socialist Nordia]

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Foreign Recognition Act

Sponsor: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)
Co-Sponsors: António Ventura (RGA - Arachaea), Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
An act to establish which foreign entities Fernão should give official recognition as sovereign nations

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Section 1: Definitions

Recognised country- A country which the government of Fernão officially views as being its own sovereign entity with a valid claim over the land it governs over
Territorial dispute- A situation in which two or more countries disagree over the ownership of a particular area

Section 2: Recognised Countries

The following states are hereby officially recognised
a. All member states of the United Nations
b. Kosovo
c. Palestine
d. Vatican City
e. Western Sahara

Section 3: Territorial Disputes

a. Fernão will officially recognise the land claims of the previously mentioned nations without UN recognition
b. Unless otherwise specified, Fernão will take the position held by the United Nations in territorial disputes, and remain neutral in conflicts which the UN has no official position

Updated co-sponsor list.

I hope Kosovo, Palestine, and Western Sahara won't be too controversial.

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

I still think that Somaliland should also be recognized, but the list is good right now. That being said, it might be better to call Western Sahara the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, since that's the official name.

[Ferak]

As it stands, I would prefer not to recognize any foreign entity that would immediate earn us enemies. Kosovo and Palestine does that.

[Socialist Nordia]

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Foreign Recognition Act

Sponsor: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)
Co-Sponsors: António Ventura (RGA - Arachaea), Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
An act to establish which foreign entities Fernão should give official recognition as sovereign nations

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Section 1: Definitions

Recognised country- A country which the government of Fernão officially views as being its own sovereign entity with a valid claim over the land it governs over
Territorial dispute- A situation in which two or more countries disagree over the ownership of a particular area

Section 2: Recognised Countries

The following states are hereby officially recognised
a. All member states of the United Nations
b. Republic of Kosovo
c. State of Palestine
d. Vatican City
e. Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic

Section 3: Territorial Disputes

a. Fernão will officially recognise the land claims of the previously mentioned nations without UN recognition
b. Unless otherwise specified, Fernão will take the position held by the United Nations in territorial disputes, and remain neutral in conflicts which the UN has no official position

Atlantica, thanks for pointing that out. In its current form, would you be willing to sponsor?

And to Ferak, we have more enemies to make by not recognising Palestine. Basically all of our neighbours recognise Palestine. As far as Kosovo is concerned, emotions don't run as high for most of the world in that dispute, so really only Serbia would be really pissed, maybe Russia just very slightly displeased.

[Tectonix]

Fernãoan Constitution Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Antonia Esteves (CU - Socialist Mercada)

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Constitution, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – Structure and Formulation of the Constitution:

1. Establishes the name of the constitution for the formal government of Fernão to be the 'Constitution' and the 'Fernãoan Constitution,' to be used interchangeably.
2. Mandates that the Constitution be comprised of a Preamble, Bill of Rights, Articles and their Sections, Signatures of all Present Senators and Provisional President, and Amendments, in that order.
3. Further Mandates that the bill that shall pass through the Provisional Government and be defined as the Draft Constitution be immune from motions and actions for indefinite tabling, removal from consideration, filibuster or cloture, unless otherwise permitted by the Interim Speaker.
4. Forbids the usage of any Committee to be used in the drafting or passage of the Draft Constitution, rather the process be open to the entire Senate.
5. Orders the fact that any proposed amendments to the Draft Constitution, as it is to be known, be in the form of a clause or multiple clauses, and votes to include them be through a simple majority as a division of the question.

§2 – Legal Prerequisites:

1. Requires that a judicial review by the entirety of the High Court be called, with a maximum duration of 7 days, to assure the legality of the Draft Constitution once it has been approved by the Provisional President.
2. Establishes the right of the Constitution to be the supreme law of Fernão and its citizens, superseding all other legislations, court mandates, executive actions, Senate motions, etc.
3. Further requires the Constitution to include a clause that specifically mandates that the formal Government of Fernão and its associates be explicitly prohibited from engaging in any activity that violates the provisions listed within the UN Human Rights and all its Protocols, the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and all its Protocols and the UN Geneva Convention and all its Protocols.

National Time Zone Act
Sponsor: Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
Co-Sponsors: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)

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An Act of the Senate to make provision for the establishment of the Fernãoan Standard Time Zone, or FST, and all that entails.

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Head of the State, by and with the counsel of the Government, and the authority of the Senate by virtue of the powers placed upon it by the Law, as follows:

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§1 – The FST:

1. Establishes the name of the time zone of which all of Fernão and its constituencies be a part of be Fernão Standard Time, or FST.
2. Mandates that FST be Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) +4 in its time setting, equivalent to Gulf Standard Time (GST).
3. Further Mandates that Coordinated Universal Time be the standard time in which FST be based off of.
4. Further Establishes that Fernão shall not observe Daylight Savings Time.

Reposted with Co-Sponsors.

[Jovuistan]

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Foreign Recognition Act

Sponsor: Jayesh Gadhavi (FPP - Socialist Nordia)
Co-Sponsors: António Ventura (RGA - Arachaea), Alexios Viel (RGA - Tectonix)
An act to establish which foreign entities Fernão should give official recognition as sovereign nations

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Section 1: Definitions

Recognised country- A country which the government of Fernão officially views as being its own sovereign entity with a valid claim over the land it governs over
Territorial dispute- A situation in which two or more countries disagree over the ownership of a particular area

Section 2: Recognised Countries

The following states are hereby officially recognised
a. All member states of the United Nations
b. Republic of Kosovo
c. State of Palestine
d. Vatican City
e. Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic

Section 3: Territorial Disputes

a. Fernão will officially recognise the land claims of the previously mentioned nations without UN recognition
b. Unless otherwise specified, Fernão will take the position held by the United Nations in territorial disputes, and remain neutral in conflicts which the UN has no official position

Atlantica, thanks for pointing that out. In its current form, would you be willing to sponsor?

And to Ferak, we have more enemies to make by not recognising Palestine. Basically all of our neighbours recognise Palestine. As far as Kosovo is concerned, emotions don't run as high for most of the world in that dispute, so really only Serbia would be really pissed, maybe Russia just very slightly displeased.

Sponsored.

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

I'd be willing to sponsor. I haven't created a character or joined a party yet though, so just use my OOC name.