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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:28 pm

Tekcirb wrote:Yes Kill Fascism

Not appropriate.

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Postby Tati Playtime » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:29 pm

...I didn't spend time fighting the condemnation, supporting National Socialism on the forums, and coming to my regional peers defense just so I could hijack a region and scream "Hey, I'm a spy, you bloody idiots".


Intriguing. So basically you are having a spring clean and its now 14 & 88 as per, and thus acting in accordance to your recently revised wfe.

Sedge, if Nazi Europe is liberated, would that mean there would not be password protection in the region?

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Postby Aglrinia » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:29 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:Where are they? They ceased to exist a long time ago

Oh my day's ceased to exist?
Don't get me started on Telemia. :evil:
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Postby Frattastan » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:30 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:
Frattastan wrote:
Forum destruction
Clarify.


"Completely erasing records from a region's offsite forum, thus destroying the history of a community"

Yeah, burn those threads ! Burn !

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:32 pm

Tati Playtime wrote:Sedge, if Nazi Europe is liberated, would that mean there would not be password protection in the region?

That's how Liberation resolutions work, so yes.

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Postby Laos Refugees » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:32 pm

Frattastan wrote:
Laos Refugees wrote:Clarify.


"Completely erasing records from a region's offsite forum, thus destroying the history of a community"

Yeah, burn those threads ! Burn !

The forums were owned by Oh my days, who, clearly, did not care what happened to them as he gave admin to me. There was nothing important on the forums, and I felt it would be better to completely destroy them, so when the region is refounded, I can create my own. Allowing us to have both a forum and region that share a common owner.

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Postby Nazis in Space » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:33 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Where the hell are all these people?

And why did YOU suddenly become delegate?

Where are they? They ceased to exist a long time ago, like dust in the wind. Originally Telemia was going to be delegate, but unfortunately, he couldn't as he was busy with his military career. This whole situation would probably have been abandoned if I never unbanned Scarsaw, German Dragons, Christian Reich, and Vandegradde from the region, as they were banned by the delegate before me , Oh my days, for good reason.
Like what? Being sane and amicable?

Well, except Christian Reich, he's a bit odd.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:36 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Where the hell are all these people?

And why did YOU suddenly become delegate?

Where are they? They ceased to exist a long time ago, like dust in the wind. Originally Telemia was going to be delegate, but unfortunately, he couldn't as he was busy with his military career. This whole situation would probably have been abandoned if I never unbanned Scarsaw, German Dragons, Christian Reich, and Vandegradde from the region, as they were banned by the delegate before me , Oh my days, for good reason.


Regardless, their voice still counts in this as former members, considering your supporters are all prejudiced towards the members of the region. It doesn't help the guys I knew to represent NE are all conveniently missing. Not that YOUR voice doesn't count... Just that you're in the higher position, dontchaknow.

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Classy.

And why DID you change the password to the region, Laos?
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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:38 pm

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Postby Frattastan » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:40 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:
Frattastan wrote:
"Completely erasing records from a region's offsite forum, thus destroying the history of a community"

Yeah, burn those threads ! Burn !

The forums were owned by Oh my days, who, clearly, did not care what happened to them as he gave admin to me. There was nothing important on the forums, and I felt it would be better to completely destroy them, so when the region is refounded, I can create my own. Allowing us to have both a forum and region that share a common owner.


You could create your own forums without destroying the old ones, Sir :)
Forum destruction has already been condemned by the Security Council and, yeah, it's something wrong.

The worst things you can do to a NationStates region, possibly, are :
- forum destruction;
- griefing (hmm... imposing a secret password, massive banjection, ... :roll: )
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:42 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:The forums were owned by Oh my days, who, clearly, did not care what happened to them as he gave admin to me. There was nothing important on the forums, and I felt it would be better to completely destroy them, so when the region is refounded, I can create my own. Allowing us to have both a forum and region that share a common owner.


Well, it's a good thing the destruction of record has been confessed to... That was a dumb reason to do that. :eyebrow:

Sjovenia wrote:i join allies with my nation to fight the axis. my region* includes 9 other including me.


Um... Who are you?
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Postby Aglrinia » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:42 pm

Frattastan wrote:The worst things you can do to a NationStates region, possibly, are :
- forum destruction;
- griefing (hmm... imposing a secret password, massive banjection, ... :roll: )


I'm tempted to work on allied raid against your region simply to see if this is all true.
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Postby Laos Refugees » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:44 pm

Nazis in Space wrote:Like what? Being sane and amicable?

Well, except Christian Reich, he's a bit odd.

I don't think you're sane if you want to overthrow somebody that is doing good for your home.

The Rich Port wrote:
Regardless, their voice still counts in this as former members, considering your supporters are all prejudiced towards the members of the region. It doesn't help the guys I knew to represent NE are all conveniently missing. Not that YOUR voice doesn't count... Just that you're in the higher position, dontchaknow.



And why DID you change the password to the region, Laos?

I admit, I hunted down and killed the two former delegates of Nazi Europe, I am ashamed.
I never changed the password, the password I put in has been the same since I put it in. If you're asking why its password protected, its simple, I don't really feel like having some raiders led by Scarsaw to take the region,and twisting it into god knows what, "dontchaknow".
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You could create your own forums without destroying the old ones, Sir :)
Forum destruction has already been condemned by the Security Council and, yeah, it's something wrong.

The worst things you can do to a NationStates region, possibly, are :
- forum destruction;
- griefing (hmm... imposing a secret password, massive banjection, ... :roll: )

I could, but there was nothing on the forums to preserve, and no one used them. Nobody was harmed. I can easily fix the forums back, but there really is no point. Call me a griefer for simply trying to do what is right, I really don't care. The last thread that was on the forums? Updated two months ago, the topic? "Your favorite T.V shows". Nothing of importance was lost.

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Postby Frattastan » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:48 pm

Aglrinia wrote:
Frattastan wrote:The worst things you can do to a NationStates region, possibly, are :
- forum destruction;
- griefing (hmm... imposing a secret password, massive banjection, ... :roll: )


I'm tempted to work on allied raid against your region simply to see if this is all true.


Any reason why ?
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Postby Nazis in Space » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:49 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:Like what? Being sane and amicable?

Well, except Christian Reich, he's a bit odd.

I don't think you're sane if you want to overthrow somebody that is doing good for your home.
Nazi Europe lost 50% of its membership in 48 hours.

Personally, I only managed to kill off about a tenth of Germany's population in twelve years, and I'm considered a bad leader.

You broke all the records, pal.

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Postby Globexanter » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:50 pm

Now they know how it feels to be invaded.
I must congratulate the invaders, that was one hell of a sneaky lot of work !

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Postby Laos Refugees » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:51 pm

Nazis in Space wrote:
Laos Refugees wrote:I don't think you're sane if you want to overthrow somebody that is doing good for your home.
Nazi Europe lost 50% of its membership in 48 hours.

Personally, I only managed to kill off about a tenth of Germany's population in twelve years, and I'm considered a bad leader.

You broke all the records, pal.

Thanks for sharing, I suppose this is the part where I bow down and shout "Heil the Eternal Fuhrer" ?

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:52 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:I admit, I hunted down and killed the two former delegates of Nazi Europe, I am ashamed.
I never changed the password, the password I put in has been the same since I put it in. If you're asking why its password protected, its simple, I don't really feel like having some raiders led by Scarsaw to take the region,and twisting it into god knows what, "dontchaknow".

I could, but there was nothing on the forums to preserve, and no one used them. Nobody was harmed. I can easily fix the forums back, but there really is no point. Call me a griefer for simply trying to do what is right, I really don't care. The last thread that was on the forums? Updated two months ago, the topic? "Your favorite T.V shows". Nothing of importance was lost.


Not everyone has as a good a sense of humor as I, dontchaknow. :lol:

Consider my opinions more advice than criticism: restore the old forums, strictly for record, unedited from their latest edition.

And the "good" you are doing, as might seem a bit obvious, is highly subjective. Sometimes a condemnation is seen as a badge of honor, and as crooked as that may seem, it is what it is. You can't force changes; you can only convince people to make changes.

Globexanter wrote:Now they know how it feels to be invaded.
I must congratulate the invaders, that was one hell of a sneaky lot of work !


Also, do something about your "supporters". They're not helping.
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Postby Globexanter » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:53 pm

Which supporters ?

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Postby Laos Refugees » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:55 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Not everyone has as a good a sense of humor as I, dontchaknow. :lol:

Consider my opinions more advice than criticism: restore the old forums, strictly for record, unedited from their latest edition.

And the "good" you are doing, as might seem a bit obvious, is highly subjective. Sometimes a condemnation is seen as a badge of honor, and as crooked as that may seem, it is what it is. You can't force changes; you can only convince people to make changes.


Here, I'll tell you what. Since you're such a nice guy, I'll restore them, but I highly doubt that they can be restored to their original state.

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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:56 pm

Globexanter wrote:Which supporters ?


You're just one example. Laos, according to him, is not a "raider".

Laos Refugees wrote:Here, I'll tell you what. Since you're such a nice guy, I'll restore them, but I highly doubt that they can be restored to their original state.


Consider the reactions next time... The wise and logical man takes all possibilities into account.

BRB, I gotta go to school.
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Postby Metania » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:14 pm

Considering the condemnation would stick if it was refounded, I don't really see the problem, outside of if the natives dislike it, then they should help get a proposal going so it can be liberated anyway.
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Postby German Dragons » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:18 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:This is quite outrageous. I have spoken to many of the nations that are in Black Front about refounding the region, the issue was, who was going to refound it. When I told them that it should be me, they knowingly started to support Scarsaw to take the delegate position from me. I have done nothing wrong, and there is nothing wrong with the region.


Like hell you did. Scar for delegate? Are you mad? Wait, don't answer that. She isnt active enough to do such a thing. And there was nothing wrong with the region, till you couldn't handle it. There was no talk of refounding to me or CR and I know that there wasn't any rallying for Scarsaw as delegate, she's in the navy for Petes sake, she runs off and randomly comes back. I personally thought you were doing an amacable job, all issues were solved, spammers down, racist ignoramousus down and general activity.


What you have done is deface our members and the region. You kicked most of us from the region without justification or warning. How would you like to be kicked out and shoved aside? We won't give this up, we will get our home back. You had no right to do what you did, you betrayed everyones trust and ruined it all, you have lost a name for yourself, you should be ashamed of yourself

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Postby Laos Refugees » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:31 pm

German Dragons wrote:
Like hell you did. Scar for delegate? Are you mad? Wait, don't answer that. She isnt active enough to do such a thing. And there was nothing wrong with the region, till you couldn't handle it. There was no talk of refounding to me or CR and I know that there wasn't any rallying for Scarsaw as delegate, she's in the navy for Petes sake, she runs off and randomly comes back. I personally thought you were doing an amacable job, all issues were solved, spammers down, racist ignoramousus down and general activity.


What you have done is deface our members and the region. You kicked most of us from the region without justification or warning. How would you like to be kicked out and shoved aside? We won't give this up, we will get our home back. You had no right to do what you did, you betrayed everyones trust and ruined it all, you have lost a name for yourself, you should be ashamed of yourself

I didn't betray anyone, nor did I plan to. It was quite obvious what you planned to do. I really don't care who you planned to put in power, not that it really matters, seeing as it failed. If you really care for the region, you will allow me to refound it. All these stories that I hear, about spying and being insane, isn't helping the issue. Even if I was insane, or a spy (Spies don't overthrow a region by themselves, which is what Black Front claims), refounding the region is going to help more then allowing anyone to take the delegate position. With a active founder we will be able to achieve more then we could in the past.

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Postby German Dragons » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:38 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:
German Dragons wrote:
Like hell you did. Scar for delegate? Are you mad? Wait, don't answer that. She isnt active enough to do such a thing. And there was nothing wrong with the region, till you couldn't handle it. There was no talk of refounding to me or CR and I know that there wasn't any rallying for Scarsaw as delegate, she's in the navy for Petes sake, she runs off and randomly comes back. I personally thought you were doing an amacable job, all issues were solved, spammers down, racist ignoramousus down and general activity.


What you have done is deface our members and the region. You kicked most of us from the region without justification or warning. How would you like to be kicked out and shoved aside? We won't give this up, we will get our home back. You had no right to do what you did, you betrayed everyones trust and ruined it all, you have lost a name for yourself, you should be ashamed of yourself

I didn't betray anyone, nor did I plan to. It was quite obvious what you planned to do. I really don't care who you planned to put in power, not that it really matters, seeing as it failed. If you really care for the region, you will allow me to refound it. All these stories that I hear, about spying and being insane, isn't helping the issue. Even if I was insane, or a spy (Spies don't overthrow a region by themselves, which is what Black Front claims), refounding the region is going to help more then allowing anyone to take the delegate position. With a active founder we will be able to achieve more then we could in the past.


Do ya think you coulda clued us in and i had no intentions whatsoever of placing anyone in power, id like to see some proof of this. And do you expect it to be all hunky dory and have things go back the way it was? I highly doubt you'll let your cabinet back in, hence the special ban you put on us and not an ejection.

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