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Postby Usual People In Life » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:33 pm

Everyone, please take a breath and be calm for a moment so I can explain.

Laos is doing this so the region can be refounded with him as the founder so we have a more active founder. Any liberation will in my opinion be useless as the region will soon be refounded, and the region has not been raided. I don't see why we need a liberation, it will only fuel laos and his reasons to refound and increase the size of NE's ban list!
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Postby Des Allemands » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:58 pm

Usual People In Life wrote:Everyone, please take a breath and be calm for a moment so I can explain.

Laos is doing this so the region can be refounded with him as the founder so we have a more active founder. Any liberation will in my opinion be useless as the region will soon be refounded, and the region has not been raided. I don't see why we need a liberation, it will only fuel laos and his reasons to refound and increase the size of NE's ban list!


This tact is incredibly risky. There is no assurance that Laos will succeed becoming the founder, having an anti-nazi become the founder, or having NS Moderation turn the whole process into syrup for that matter! I will support it though only if The Confederate Empire sanctioned it.

In a sense, your argument about the liberation resolution is spurious -- even as I agree with you that we shouldn't employ a liberation resolution to resolve this situation. Natives including myself had been ejected against our will -- in a sense our region has been raided by its own delegate (but perhaps I need to partake in some of the spirits Flemingovia enjoys so I can be a happier camper about all this).
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Postby Ballotonia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:46 pm

Six pages into this thread, and I'm still wondering what the actual problem is and why the SC should get involved.

Let's pretend we're talking about a region called 'Happy Kittens' just to think about the situation more clearly... The sitting delegate of 'Happy Kittens' goes apeshit and kicks a bunch of folks in a hilariously clumsy fashion. Since when does the SC get involved in the internal affairs of regions? Is it a problem if one side in the internal fight in the region gets to refound 'Happy Kittens' ? So what if the rest of the nations move to 'Fun Kittens' in protest? When there are two sides in a region bickering, they cannot both win total control. Why would the SC get to decide which side in an internal struggle gets to 'win'.

Frankly, I think both sides lose for as long as they keep fighting each other. There are no winners here.

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Numdia
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Postby Numdia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:04 pm

I'd vote to Liberate Nazi Europe, but I don't want them to exsist.

Maybe we could just commend the guy that destroyed them? I like that plan more.

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Postby Jeux II » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:15 pm

Nazi Europe just lost its delegate and a new one will be in place soon, so there is no need to liberate anymore.
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Postby Laos Refugees » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:16 pm

I admit it, my plan was flawed.
But really, it doesn't matter. This is just one move against the National Socialists, I truly hope N.S will see how possible it is to destroy regions like Nazi Europe. Defending these murderers for the past year and a half got really tiresome.

I believe since N.E is already liberated, this thread is useless.

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Postby St George of England » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:18 pm

Can't we do it anyway? And then pass a commendation? Just to see if the universe will implode if they have all three?
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Postby Crazy girl » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:46 pm

Hello, this was just posted in the RR:

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A little birdie just informed me of the password in NAZI EUROPE: laos1354242


Seems to be the correct password. Have fun.

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:59 pm

I'm confused... But I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
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Postby Des Allemands » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:58 pm

Laos Refugees wrote:I admit it, my plan was flawed.
But really, it doesn't matter. This is just one move against the National Socialists, I truly hope N.S will see how possible it is to destroy regions like Nazi Europe. Defending these murderers for the past year and a half got really tiresome.

I believe since N.E is already liberated, this thread is useless.


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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:12 pm

Des Allemands wrote:
Laos Refugees wrote:I admit it, my plan was flawed.
But really, it doesn't matter. This is just one move against the National Socialists, I truly hope N.S will see how possible it is to destroy regions like Nazi Europe. Defending these murderers for the past year and a half got really tiresome.

I believe since N.E is already liberated, this thread is useless.


WOW


Yeah... I know.

Obsessed with it, and you guys didn't take the chance to ban him from the region. :eyebrow:
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Postby Unibot II » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:57 pm

Ballotonia wrote:Let's pretend we're talking about a region called 'Happy Kittens' just to think about the situation more clearly... The sitting delegate of 'Happy Kittens' goes apeshit and kicks a bunch of folks in a hilariously clumsy fashion. Since when does the SC get involved in the internal affairs of regions? Is it a problem if one side in the internal fight in the region gets to refound 'Happy Kittens' ? So what if the rest of the nations move to 'Fun Kittens' in protest? When there are two sides in a region bickering, they cannot both win total control. Why would the SC get to decide which side in an internal struggle gets to 'win'.


"Liberate Eastern Europe"<-- probably one of the SC's most successful liberations too -- and in NE's case, Laos was not acting as representative of the natives.

It's not that the SC is choosing a side persay, it's making sure one side can't overpower by getting what it wants (refounding <-- a practically irreversible procedure) without harmony between both parties.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:01 pm

Unibot II wrote:
Ballotonia wrote:Let's pretend we're talking about a region called 'Happy Kittens' just to think about the situation more clearly... The sitting delegate of 'Happy Kittens' goes apeshit and kicks a bunch of folks in a hilariously clumsy fashion. Since when does the SC get involved in the internal affairs of regions? Is it a problem if one side in the internal fight in the region gets to refound 'Happy Kittens' ? So what if the rest of the nations move to 'Fun Kittens' in protest? When there are two sides in a region bickering, they cannot both win total control. Why would the SC get to decide which side in an internal struggle gets to 'win'.


"Liberate Eastern Europe"<-- probably one of the SC's most successful liberations too -- and in NE's case, Laos was not acting as representative of the natives.


After the events that have transpired, I suppose the resolution is not needed, Uni.

Laos Refugees has fled from N.E. and I suppose they're restructuring and rebuilding. At least this is the gist I got from one of it's members.

Needless to say, keep the resolution around, fine-tune it, and maintain contact with their higher-ups. They didn't BAN Laos from N.E., and he could return.
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Postby Cuba Socialista » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:30 pm

I would like to congratulate Laos Refugees personally for giving them all a good scare.

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:32 pm

Cuba Socialista wrote:I would like to congratulate Laos Refugees personally for giving them all a good scare.


Oh, yeah... I'd like a #4, the McCommie Special, with the Marx Fries on the side. Pour on a whole lotta mustard.
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Postby Unibot II » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:44 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Unibot II wrote:
"Liberate Eastern Europe"<-- probably one of the SC's most successful liberations too -- and in NE's case, Laos was not acting as representative of the natives.


After the events that have transpired, I suppose the resolution is not needed, Uni.


Yep.
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Postby Cuba Socialista » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:25 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Cuba Socialista wrote:I would like to congratulate Laos Refugees personally for giving them all a good scare.


Oh, yeah... I'd like a #4, the McCommie Special, with the Marx Fries on the side. Pour on a whole lotta mustard.


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Postby Svarttjern » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:43 am

Since the issue is done with and settled I would appreciate it if this thread was locked. It's now a moot point with Laos gone and NE rebuilding.

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Postby Flemingovia » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:50 am

Can't we liberate the region from Svarttjern ? It seems such a waste of a six page thread, and we have not talked about Nazis nearly enough.
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Postby The Christian Reich » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:37 am

Laos Refugees wrote:I admit it, my plan was flawed.
But really, it doesn't matter. This is just one move against the National Socialists, I truly hope N.S will see how possible it is to destroy regions like Nazi Europe. Defending these murderers for the past year and a half got really tiresome.

I believe since N.E is already liberated, this thread is useless.

Haha your a piece of crap.
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:51 am

The Christian Reich wrote:
Laos Refugees wrote:I admit it, my plan was flawed.
But really, it doesn't matter. This is just one move against the National Socialists, I truly hope N.S will see how possible it is to destroy regions like Nazi Europe. Defending these murderers for the past year and a half got really tiresome.

I believe since N.E is already liberated, this thread is useless.

Haha your a piece of crap.

And you're *** warned *** for flaming.

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Postby The Christian Reich » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:22 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
The Christian Reich wrote:Haha your a piece of crap.

And you're *** warned *** for flaming.

Sorry reflex
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The Christian Reich wrote:
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I thought there would be more references to cheese and cats in that post.


They have an app for that. ;)

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Postby Metania » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:28 pm

Flemingovia wrote:Can't we liberate the region from Svarttjern ? It seems such a waste of a six page thread, and we have not talked about Nazis nearly enough.


No, the new fad is Communists. We will have to start the cycle anew. Nazis are old hat. ;)
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Postby Numdia » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:30 am

Laos Refugees wrote:I admit it, my plan was flawed.
But really, it doesn't matter. This is just one move against the National Socialists, I truly hope N.S will see how possible it is to destroy regions like Nazi Europe. Defending these murderers for the past year and a half got really tiresome.

I believe since N.E is already liberated, this thread is useless.


Jesus Christ, there's just no killing those guys.

Oh well, I'm sure that someone will get the better of them eventually.

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Postby Numdia » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:38 am

Metania wrote:
Flemingovia wrote:Can't we liberate the region from Svarttjern ? It seems such a waste of a six page thread, and we have not talked about Nazis nearly enough.


No, the new fad is Communists. We will have to start the cycle anew. Nazis are old hat. ;)


Yay, I love having trolls talk about Communism being amazing. Especially when they don't have the slightest idea of what it is.

Why can't people realize that National Socialism, Communism, Serfdom, etc. don't work? At least not nearly as well as (free market) Capitalism and Democracy.

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