Advertisement
by Cuba Socialista » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:59 am
by St George of England » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:22 am
Cuba Socialista wrote:So if we had a Confederate RP region, that endorsed RP slavery to the point where it attracted actual racists, ok, what if these nations were to start using the 'n' word to start racial slurs this would be ok too? An RMB full of 'n' words
Cuba Socialista wrote:Perhaps we can add more in to the mix and send the link out to jihadists, get some of their regions and crashing of regions. And then when you try to raid them or condemn, you'll be defending them saying we're basing it on ideology. I get it, it stinks though, if its supposed to be a real life political body we're running, we should be allowed to condemn them for creating a hostile atmosphere for others with that kind of language.
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:47 am
by St George of England » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:51 am
The Freeturf wrote:My region suffered an attempted invasion by GGR
Hence it has become apparent that the only way to deal with these terrorists is to unite, on bothe sides of the aisle be you liberal or conservative, to destroy the enemies of freedom.
I will certainly support this motion. It is great to see both hard line leftists and Conservatives like me agreeing and believe me it is a rarity.
However we all love freedom. GGR hates it they must be condemned and everything in our power must be done to end their tyranny
by Sedgistan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:56 am
(e) Contain reference to ideologies without explaining how they apply to NationStates in terms of actions, policies or attributes of nations/regions.
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:24 am
by St George of England » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:27 am
The Freeturf wrote:RedIsrael came from the Reich and came to our region after the password was given in the belief it was decent nation.
However it then sent a telegram to a nation in the region informing him that the region would soon fall to the GGR.
Thankfully my VD was online at the time and was able to stop the invasion while I banned RedIsrael when I came online.
When a nation asks for evidence in such a fashion it becomes clear that they can't deny it happened so are looking for me to hesitate and make it look like I am lying.
I am not, i have told you the story, it is about decency.
Your region has none and must be destroyed
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:45 am
by Sedgistan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:57 am
The Freeturf wrote:I have submitted a proposal of condemnation on GGR everyone endorse it
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:13 am
St George of England wrote:The Freeturf wrote:RedIsrael came from the Reich and came to our region after the password was given in the belief it was decent nation.
However it then sent a telegram to a nation in the region informing him that the region would soon fall to the GGR.
Thankfully my VD was online at the time and was able to stop the invasion while I banned RedIsrael when I came online.
When a nation asks for evidence in such a fashion it becomes clear that they can't deny it happened so are looking for me to hesitate and make it look like I am lying.
I am not, i have told you the story, it is about decency.
Your region has none and must be destroyed
by Vraksia (Ancient) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:15 am
by Sedgistan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:19 am
by Sedgistan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:22 am
Vraksia wrote:Exactly, you cannot condem a region for its ideology, if it was so then, no offence, but communist regions would all be condemed if you look back at history, stalin, pol pot, mao
Even Israel in recent years
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:47 pm
by Iander » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:30 pm
FURTHER RECOGNIZING that The Greater German Reich forces it's nations to participate in raids, and ejects and bans those who do not do so.
Goram wrote:Iander wrote:So, zombies once again. I don't know about you guys, but I feel like just shooting everybody..
Iander, when do you not feel like shooting everybody?
Pragia wrote:You and your tank porn...
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:30 pm
Iander wrote:FURTHER RECOGNIZING that The Greater German Reich forces it's nations to participate in raids, and ejects and bans those who do not do so.
Truth be told, I never participated in any raids at all, yet I am not just a member, but a minister. I never saw anyone being neither ejected nor banned for not participating in these so called 'raids', which are truly just taking over long-dead regions without firing a single shot. No one gets hurt, and all nations a free to leave occupied regions.
by Volkhan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:32 pm
CONDEMN THE REGION! APPROVE THE PROPOSAL CURRENTLY ON THE FLOOR OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL
by Scarsaw » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:40 pm
by DoshGillio » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:41 pm
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:38 pm
Scarsaw wrote:The Federation recommends that the Ambassador from the Freeturf calms down, has some Scarsaw Soda, and return tomorrow so that we may continue this conversation without fear of creating ill will between nations.
It has been pointed out that the proposition has faulty information and makes claims without evidence. That does not mean that GGR is innocent of these claims; however, to act with such an erroneous proposal would undermined the beliefs that many of our nations are founded upon...mainly the idea of innocence until proven guilty. The Federation is reserving judgment and serious thought of GGR's actions until a better written accusation is given.
by Scarsaw » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:04 pm
The Freeturf wrote:My Learned Friends,
I bear no ill will against any of you.
Firstly I don't believe I need to show any further evidence that the Reich did act tyrannically while controlling Republicans, a helpless region without a founder, Britvaria, Hut and House and myself were all ejected. In my case for engaging in the democratic process i.e. getting endorsements to become the Delegate. Every other native bar one was subsequently ejected.
My region was attacked as a result of a telegram I sent to GGR's Delegate stating I was delighted the Republicans were iberated and gloating that soon his region would be nothing of importance as no other region would be willing to work with them. The password was accidently given to RedIsrael, a nation we believed to be friendly, who subsequently sent a telegram to Puerto Hispania (who can testify to this) which told him of the planned occupation of the region and furrther to this, dare I say, was of a threatening nature (to the best of my memory it told Hispania he should co-operate as soon he would have no choice, i will seek clarification on the threat (if there was one) from hispania). Only for my VD who managed to contact people in the Reich and halt the invasion I may soon have been in the rejected realms.
Also I do believe it is more than likely there will be more invasions. I have heard of several possibilites which I cannot share hear but I dare say that there is plenty of information in circulation about this.
Finally you need only to read the civil centre on most given days to see that they toast the deeds of the holocaust to a sickening degree (I know this was not in the motion)
by Cuba Socialista » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:25 pm
by The Freeturf » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:58 pm
Scarsaw wrote:The Freeturf wrote:My Learned Friends,
I bear no ill will against any of you.
Firstly I don't believe I need to show any further evidence that the Reich did act tyrannically while controlling Republicans, a helpless region without a founder, Britvaria, Hut and House and myself were all ejected. In my case for engaging in the democratic process i.e. getting endorsements to become the Delegate. Every other native bar one was subsequently ejected.
My region was attacked as a result of a telegram I sent to GGR's Delegate stating I was delighted the Republicans were iberated and gloating that soon his region would be nothing of importance as no other region would be willing to work with them. The password was accidently given to RedIsrael, a nation we believed to be friendly, who subsequently sent a telegram to Puerto Hispania (who can testify to this) which told him of the planned occupation of the region and furrther to this, dare I say, was of a threatening nature (to the best of my memory it told Hispania he should co-operate as soon he would have no choice, i will seek clarification on the threat (if there was one) from hispania). Only for my VD who managed to contact people in the Reich and halt the invasion I may soon have been in the rejected realms.
Also I do believe it is more than likely there will be more invasions. I have heard of several possibilites which I cannot share hear but I dare say that there is plenty of information in circulation about this.
Finally you need only to read the civil centre on most given days to see that they toast the deeds of the holocaust to a sickening degree (I know this was not in the motion)
To reinforce, this possible crime and threat to world stability is not written in the current proposal; not only is it excluded but information that is wrong, such as forcing nations to participate in raids, is placed. That is the key reason why the Federation can not support it. If there was a proposal better written with this kind of examples and proof added, a serious thought would be given although the Federation was once a GGR member during our exile from NE...so we are still biased to the region and the founder.
In addition, if we understand you correctly, you were attacked after making taunts and threats towards GGR. If that is the case, the Federation has no sympathy for you and, in fact, believe your region should be frowned upon for provoking another. As a Scarsawian proverb goes, a man who sticks his tongue out is bound to loose it. You stuck your tongue out at GGR and lost it...there is no mystery why and instead of blaming it on the actions of GGR, see it as a repercussion for your foolish and immature action.
Although the Federation finds it in ill-taste to praise great suffering and death, we cannot condemn them based solely on that. First, we cannot prove that such a thing as the Holocaust occurred as the events found within the Tera' paq* are always up to interpretation and question. Second, although praising such an event is distasteful, one should not be punished for acting is a distasteful way. Toasting to the Holocaust does not break laws in the Federation, nor do we think it breaks international laws; there for, it is inappropriate but not condemnable.
Therefore, even with your examples and ignoring the inaccuracies, the Federation can not approve of this proposal.
((OOC: Tera' paq is a book containing RL history. It is seen similar to the Bible where the truth of the stories depends on the person's individual belief. Generally though, it is seen as a collection of stories that are fictional examples of what can happen more than history))
by Volkhan » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:29 pm
Advertisement
Users browsing this forum: Cinnaa, Skiva, The Ever-Wanderer, Tungstan, Warzone Codger
Advertisement